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| 1112.1 | | GIDDAY::BURT | My wings are like a shield of steel | Thu Sep 15 1994 20:48 | 10 |
| > If I say I'll meet you 'here', how do you know where 'here'is?
I'm here - you're there (although at times you're elsewhere). It's where the
first person doesn't have their absence present, or their presence absent.
It isn't thither or yon.
Where was I?
Chele
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| 1112.2 | | GIDDAY::BURT | My wings are like a shield of steel | Thu Sep 15 1994 20:50 | 6 |
| Oh yes, "how big is 'here'?"
It has to be at _least_ as big as a muchness, or it would if I had my druthers.
Chele
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| 1112.3 | | JRDV04::DIAMOND | segmentation fault (california dumped) | Thu Sep 15 1994 21:00 | 3 |
| Re .1, .2
This is Digital; we can't tease the hard of hereing.
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| 1112.4 | | AUSSIE::WHORLOW | Bushies do it for FREE! | Fri Sep 16 1994 02:14 | 18 |
| G'day,
I once wrote a postcard to some friends...
it went
Dear ............lots and lots of names..
Glad you're not here.
Regards
Derek
Now where was here? the town pictured on the post card or the pier upon
which I was esconced when I wrote the post card?
djw
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| 1112.5 | | GIDDAY::BURT | My wings are like a shield of steel | Fri Sep 16 1994 03:28 | 15 |
| > Now where was here? the town pictured on the post card or the pier upon
> which I was esconced when I wrote the post card?
The "here" in this instance is no longer valid since you are no longer in
either the the "here" of the town or the pier "here" . Here is now "there",
although for everyone else in practically every circumstance the "here" that
was will almost always be "there". Unless of course they were there in which
case "they're here".
Eddies in the space time continuum. How did he get there.
Chele
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| 1112.6 | It's clear in _my_ mind, so there! | WELSWS::HILLN | It's OK, it'll be dark by nightfall | Fri Sep 16 1994 04:51 | 15 |
| I find that "here" and "there" are of indeterminant size and can range
from being continental -- here in Europe, there in Asia -- to a point
-- here, at my feet, there at the tip of the pencil.
And my here is almost, but not quite, always your there, and vice
versa, unless the here I'm talking about is referenced in the context
of my membership of a group, when it'll be co-owned.
It seems then that the sizing of here and there is liable to cause as
many problems as dropping buttered toast. So I feel tempted to suggest
that we remove this discussion from here and continue it in the
Murphy's Law conference. There we should be able to give the
discussion a freedom that'll seem out of place here.
BTW what's the unit of measure for sizing here and there?
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| 1112.7 | | BBRDGE::LOVELL | | Fri Sep 16 1994 06:28 | 19 |
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For all of us "here" is probably correctly defined
at this precise moment as THEBAY::JOYOFLEX.
I agree with Chele. "Here" is not limited to uni-dimensional
place. It is an abstraction of time/place/presence and perhaps
to a certain degree, participation. "There" is a
derivative that negates or downgrades the values in
some or all of the dimensions.
So There!
BTW, Derek - when you were lying in bed considering
all this, did you have that funny feeling of floating out
of your body and observing yourself from a corner of the
room, high up near the ceiling? Happens to me all
the time :-)
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| 1112.8 | | NOTIME::SACKS | Gerald Sacks ZKO2-3/N30 DTN:381-2085 | Fri Sep 16 1994 15:37 | 6 |
| > I find that "here" and "there" are of indeterminant size and can range
> from being continental -- here in Europe, there in Asia -- to a point
> -- here, at my feet, there at the tip of the pencil.
Alien sending a post card from Earth -- "Having a great time. Wish you
were here." "Here" can refer to a planet, a galaxy, et. al.
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| 1112.9 | nahh, not me guv - I'm here all the time! | AUSSIE::WHORLOW | Bushies do it for FREE! | Mon Sep 19 1994 00:56 | 14 |
| G'day,
BTW, Derek - when you were lying in bed considering
all this, did you have that funny feeling of floating out
of your body and observing yourself from a corner of the
room, high up near the ceiling? Happens to me all
the time :-)
Oh really.... what am I doing? and is it fit to write home about?
regards
Derek
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| 1112.10 | | GIDDAY::BURT | My wings are like a shield of steel | Mon Sep 19 1994 01:43 | 8 |
| 'twould open up a whole new (other) world for blackmailers, wouldn't it??
They could be up there on the ceiling with their astral cameras taking "spirit
pictures" of ...
I wonder what the astral equivalent of a negative is? A corporeal?
Chele
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| 1112.11 | and here I am | NOVA::FISHER | Tay-unned, rey-usted, rey-ady | Mon Sep 19 1994 10:24 | 3 |
| No matter where you go, there you are...
ed
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| 1112.12 | ? | PAKORA::TBARRETT | Tom Barrett 8463 | Wed Sep 21 1994 22:31 | 5 |
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It`s all just a negative reality inversion if you ask me.
Tom.
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| 1112.13 | | FORTY2::KNOWLES | Road-kill on the Info Superhighway | Mon Sep 26 1994 08:56 | 5 |
| Well _I_ know where `here' is. It's `there' that's the problem. In
some languages there's a 2nd person `there' ("there, in your `here'")
and a 3rd person `there' ("there, in his `here'").
b
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