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Conference thebay::joyoflex

Title:The Joy of Lex
Notice:A Notes File even your grammar could love
Moderator:THEBAY::SYSTEM
Created:Fri Feb 28 1986
Last Modified:Mon Jun 02 1997
Last Successful Update:Fri Jun 06 1997
Number of topics:1192
Total number of notes:42769

232.0. "Ten days" by BISTRO::LIRON (roger liron @VBO) Fri Aug 29 1986 12:38

    Is there an English word to mean "a period of ten days" ?
    
    Does "decade" really mean "ten years" as my dictionary says ?
    Can you really use "decade" to mean "ten years", while
    it means "ten days" in Latin, French, Italian etc ...?
    
    And if you use "decade" for "ten years", then what do you
    use "decennium" (or "decenny" ?) for ?
    
    Aha, let's see what they answer to this one.
    
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232.1DEC.....does he mean us?.TMCUK2::BANKSRule BritanniaFri Aug 29 1986 15:201
    
232.2Decade...IOSG::DAVEYMon Sep 01 1986 21:3513
    ... I thought it was the fizzy pop they sell in the vending machines
    here in DECpark...
    
    My big French dictionary (Collins-Robert) has decade (with an acute
    accent, of course) translated as 1. (decennie) decade, 2. (dix jours)
    period of ten days.
    
    I think our nearest to a word for a period of ten days is "fortnight",
    which is two weeks... "une quinzaine" in French.
         
    Sorry Roger,
    
    John.
232.3WE also have DECola.....TMCUK2::BANKSRule BritanniaTue Sep 02 1986 14:389
    No thats DECola, our new product.
    
    There are the usual options like ETHERstraw, for mutiple users etc
    etc.
    
    If you want the full specification on how to order this product,
    send me mail.
    
    dcb
232.41355; latin decas,-adis; greek deka.YIPPEE::GOULNIKFri Sep 05 1986 12:3020
    
    My french (Robert, not Collins) also has 
    
    	1) period of ten days
    	2) period of ten years
    	
    It further says
    
    	1) The ten days period replacing the (7 days) week in the
    	   Republican calendar (1793)
    
    	2) attested colloquial use, but condemned by the (authoritative
           linguistic) french Academy as anglicism.
    
    In my experience (as a native speaker) meaning  1) although  accepted
    by the authority has been rejected by usage, at the expense of 2)
    If you ask the average french what decade means, I'd bet you very
    seldom get 1).
    
    yves goulnik
232.5sounds clear to meREGENT::MERRILLWin one for the Glypher.Fri Sep 05 1986 12:524
    "DECade" is obviously charging for using notesfiles so as to fund
    medical research!
    	RMM
    
232.6Closer, butREGENT::BROOMHEADAnn A. Broomhead !phone! 223-2547Fri Sep 12 1986 14:074
    Actully, the obsolete term, sennight, is closer to meaning a
    ten day period than fortnight, because seven is closer to ten
    than fourteen is.
    						Ann B.
232.7can't tell a root from a root canalMODEL::YARBROUGHMon Sep 15 1986 13:275
    Then there's the related:
    
    	Decadent (adj.) - having only ten teeth.
    
    -Lynn 
232.8use of commas and quotesDELNI::GOLDSTEINWaiting for the electrician...Wed Sep 17 1986 16:0113
re:.6,
    >Actully, the obsolete term, sennight, is closer to meaning a

Quibble time, this being Joyoflex.  It should have been

Actually, the obsolete term 'sennight' is closer to meaning...

As Strunk and White point out, commas separate an apposite clause
which is not the subject itself but simply a clarification.  In
this case, the subject may be quoted because it is a reference
to a word, but it should not be set off with commas.

There, do I win the Dave Cantor award today?  :-)
232.9YesDELNI::CANTORDave CantorWed Sep 17 1986 16:140
232.10PSW::WINALSKIPaul S. WinalskiSat Nov 08 1986 21:4510
To answer the questions posed in .0 directly:

No, there isn't an English word in current useage to mean "a period of ten
days."

Yes, "decade" really means "ten years."

"Decennium" is not used in English.  It is not a word.

--PSW
232.11BISTRO::LIRONroger liron @VBOWed Nov 12 1986 15:5815
    Well, thanks for all your replies. 
    
    I was almost sure that "decade" derived from Latin "decem" (ten)
    and "dies" (day), and thus could only mean "ten days" and nothing
    else; looks like that etymology was wrong. Interesting to see
    that in French it means both "ten days" and "ten years".
    
    "Decennium" is defined in the Concise Oxford Dictionary, so
    it seems to be a word, even if not used. 
    
    
        
   

        
232.12I disagreeCOMICS::DEMORGANRichard De Morgan, UK CSC/CSThu Oct 15 1987 08:572
    Re .6: I would have thought that geometric comparison would be more
    applicable. Thus note 10/7 > 14/10.
232.13Re .---TKOV52::DIAMONDMon Feb 19 1990 11:384
    Sure, fortnight means fort'n nights, but what about the days?
    Surely the correct answer to the original question would be

    tendonitis.