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Conference thebay::joyoflex

Title:The Joy of Lex
Notice:A Notes File even your grammar could love
Moderator:THEBAY::SYSTEM
Created:Fri Feb 28 1986
Last Modified:Mon Jun 02 1997
Last Successful Update:Fri Jun 06 1997
Number of topics:1192
Total number of notes:42769

561.0. "Surely Not" by TERZA::ZANE (foxglove employee) Fri Sep 16 1988 23:17

   An old junior-high school joke:
   
   Sugar is the only word in the English language where the letters 'su'
   sound like 'shu'.
   
   Answer: Are you sure?
   
   
   Seriously, are there any others?  Or any other two letter combinations
   which have the 'sh' sound, without a letter h?
   
   
   							Terza
   
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561.1A third...SSGBPM::KENAHLimerence isn't enoughSat Sep 17 1988 01:195
    Sumac is pronounced <SHU/mac>, and <SOO/mac>, with the first pronunciation
    of the two listed as the primary...                        
    
    					andrew
    
561.2AKOV11::BOYAJIANThat was Zen; this is DaoSat Sep 17 1988 19:535
    re:.1
    
    Depends on the dictionary. The AHD lists "soo-mac" as the primary.
    
    --- jerry
561.3-ti-DSSDEV::CANTORDave C.Sun Sep 18 1988 04:0610
      Re .0
      
>   Seriously, are there any others?  Or any other two letter combinations
>   which have the 'sh' sound, without a letter h?
      
      Sure, there are hundreds of them.  All the words that end in
      -tion; e.g., concentration, station.   (You didn't ask for
      any particular two-letter combination.)
      
      Dave C.
561.4AKOV11::BOYAJIANThat was Zen; this is DaoSun Sep 18 1988 15:283
    And, of course, there's "ciao".
    
    --- jerry
561.5sciurly you mean chow!ALXNDR::HOLLANDAsk for dopamine by nameMon Sep 19 1988 20:3111
    ciao
    has a "ch" sound
    sci in Italian has a "sh" sound.
    
    The only exception I know of is the "ci" combination in "Citibank"
    which _should_ properly be pronounced SH.  
    
    Thank you.
    
    A Customer.
    
561.6just thought of some without -tionTERZA::ZANEfoxglove employeeMon Sep 19 1988 21:127
   prescient
   
   impression
   
   depression
   
561.7AKOV11::BOYAJIANThat was Zen; this is DaoTue Sep 20 1988 10:3920
    re:.5
    
    Yes, I'm aware of that. I was misremembering the question.
    I was thinking that the person was asking for any type of
    "h" sound where no "h" was present, rather than specifically
    for "sh" sounds where no "h" was present.
    
    More:
    
    conscious
    conscience
    pretension
    precession
    procession
    
    And others with an "sci" and "si" combination.
    
    And how about others based on "-sure", like "pressure" or "censure"?
    
    --- jerry
561.8me me me me me I know one .UNTADI::ODIJPCome up an' be me sometime !Tue Sep 20 1988 21:466
    I thought the base note said 'English' language .
    
    But I don't care and that's         official
    
    John J
    
561.9jus' stirrin!LAMHRA::WHORLOWLiving on a rope,tape &amp; a prayerWed Sep 21 1988 06:5518
    G'day,
    
    
    Ahhhh he says wondering like and cogitating on his navel like some
    sage of yore...
    
    How many of these have developed into a 'sh' sound when _really_
    they should not be?
    
    Like I mean 'sure' _ought_ to be 'sssssyor' ie  a hiss , a very
    short drop into the yuh sound of the 'u' then the ruh sound....
    didn't it?
    
    but we being what we are - lazy in speech - sh is easier. 
    
    
    djw
    
561.10I think this is becoming an obsessionAKOV11::BOYAJIANThat was Zen; this is DaoWed Sep 21 1988 18:161
    --- jerry