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Conference thebay::joyoflex

Title:The Joy of Lex
Notice:A Notes File even your grammar could love
Moderator:THEBAY::SYSTEM
Created:Fri Feb 28 1986
Last Modified:Mon Jun 02 1997
Last Successful Update:Fri Jun 06 1997
Number of topics:1192
Total number of notes:42769

556.0. "Buzzwords, anyone?" by HSSWS1::DUANE (Send lawyers, guns, & money) Fri Sep 02 1988 11:30

    I did a quick check for a topic related to buzzwords, but couldn't
    find one. 
    
    Soooo....
    
    Anyone got any new/improved buzzwords especially DEC related, but
    possibly computer-industry related, or anything at all related.
    
    Here's a couple:
    
    proactive
    
    A biggie with Digital these days.  I saw a tape on how we need to be
    more sensitive to the needs of our customers and their problems
    recently and must have heard 'proactive' at least 10 times.
    
    portability ( as in portable code )
    
    A big joke as far as I'm concerned, but the industry is really eating
    it up. 

    
    d
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556.1Architechtural methodologyBISTRO::BLOMBERGAncient Systems SupportFri Sep 02 1988 13:1212
    
    ARCHITECHTURE.
    
    Everything should be architectures nowadays. Soon we'll probably
    refer to the lunch menu as "Lunch Management Architechture, LMA".
    
    METHODOLOGY.
    
    I've the feeling that "methodology" is sometimes used as a beefed-up
    version of "method". But there is actually a difference.
    
    Ake
556.2Shades of the NTDDTLE::SAVAGENeil, @Spit BrookFri Sep 02 1988 21:4815
    By "new/improved" do you mean invented since the following tome
    hit the network?
    
                                     NOT

                            THE DIGITAL DICTIONARY

                                      or
    
                           "A Fistful of Floppies"
    
                      A guide to Understanding DECspeak,
                       Illogical Grammar, Misspellings,
                       Euphemisms, and other Code Words
                    Used in Digital Equipment Corporation
556.3See related topic, Notes 2.*TLE::SAVAGENeil, @Spit BrookFri Sep 02 1988 21:592
    The title doesn't state it explicitly, but at much of the discussion
    here is about buzzwords.
556.4... Zen and the meaning of words ...CURIUS::CIUFFINIIf my Personal Name were a song, it Fri Sep 02 1988 22:389
    
    Allow me to translate 'portability'. It means written in C. :-)
    
    jc
    p.s. No one seems to have mentioned the new, granulated, guaranteed
         to make everyone feel comfortable word, "platforms". As in
         the VMS platform and the Ultrix platform, etc. ( And some of
         you might have thought they were shoes.... :-) )
    
556.5HOCUS::HOLLANDAsk for dopamine by nameFri Sep 02 1988 22:507
    From a quarterly review of a sales rep:
    
    "X.. needs to proactively work to grow her skills and increase 
    penetration of this account at the appropriate decisioning levels."
    
    Huh?
    
556.6ERIS::CALLASWaiter, there's a bug in my codeSat Sep 03 1988 02:067
    When we announced the Calypso (VAX 6200) systems, I watched the
    annoucement here in the ZK caf with a lot of other people. They were
    announced as the "VAX 6200 series solutions platforms." I said a little
    loudly, "Gee, and here I'd thought they were computers!" I was pleased
    that laughter spread through the room. 
    
    	Jon
556.7RE: 556.1 - methodologyGYPC::PONYMon Sep 05 1988 20:572
    The same is true for "technology" - used mostly in the wrong place...
    
556.8User-friendlyODIHAM::HILLTechnology Consultant - sometimesFri Sep 16 1988 21:199
    Surely the ultimate buzzword is:
    
    		User-friendly

    Which when translated means:
    
	    	As attractive as a cornered rat

    Nick
556.9??????????????IJSAPL::ELSENAARThey'll lift you up in their handsFri Sep 16 1988 21:4210
RE -1 (Nick)
    
>    		User-friendly
>    Which when translated means:
>	    	As attractive as a cornered rat

I thought "user-friendly" meant either "only for friendly users" or
"works only when the user is friendly".

Arie
556.10VISA::MONAHANhumanity is a trojan horseSat Sep 17 1988 16:132
    	Now who was it that used the personal name of "computer-friendly
    liveware"?
556.11Doable & Xeroxed???WHEEL::SWINIARSKINANcy--*NANSKI*--SwiniarSKIMon Sep 19 1988 23:258
    My latest "Pet-Peeves"
    
    Doable  - Does this mean that if you can't complete the
              specific task in question that it's "Undoable"?
    
    Xeroxed - I saw this in a Documentation Plan.  Since when is
              the trade make for the Xerox Corp. a verb?
    
556.12PSTJTT::TABERAnswer hazy -- ask again laterTue Sep 20 1988 01:398
>    Xeroxed - I saw this in a Documentation Plan.  Since when is
>              the trade make for the Xerox Corp. a verb?
    
Since about a year after they became popular.  Certainly by the mid-60's 
"Xeroxed" was in popular use.  Xerox is fighting it, of course, since 
they don't want to lose the rights to their name, but it looks like a 
losing battle.
					>>>==>PStJTT
556.13AKOV11::BOYAJIANThat was Zen; this is DaoTue Sep 20 1988 10:528
556.14> <KERNEL::TBOOKERNon-contentious statements onlyTue Sep 20 1988 18:221
    Never heard Xeroxed used. We do, however, make lots of photocopies.
556.15free advertisingUNTADI::ODIJPCome up an' be me sometime !Tue Sep 20 1988 21:417
    I would have thought Xerox to be more than happy that their brand
    name is being used in a general way when talking about 
    photo-cop-stat-iesisis .
    
    Rather like 'hoover' . (No , not J Edgar) .
    
    John J
556.16Choose a good name over riches.SEAPEN::PHIPPSMike @DTN 225-4959Tue Sep 20 1988 22:0613
>   I would have thought Xerox to be more than happy that their brand
>   name is being used in a general way when talking about 

        They probably realize that you can get "Xeroxed" on Canon, IBM,
        etcetera copiers.

        Certainly McDonalds didn't appreciate it when a motel chain
        decided to open up a string of cut-rate places and called them
        MacSleep!!

        They got the court to agree that it was trading on Mac's good
        name and reputation. The motel has to pick a different name and
        all of those signs have to come down.
556.17Why do you think they register them?CLOSET::T_PARMENTERTongue in cheek, fist in air!Tue Sep 20 1988 23:2224
    It's tough.  You want a good name and you want people to use it,
    but not too much because then you'll lose your exclusivity.  Both
    "cellophane" and "aspirin" started out as trademarks.  Just recently
    the Thermos company lost the exclusive right to call glass vacuum
    bottles after themselves.  That's why advertisements always say
    "use Kleenex brand facial tissues" instead of "use Kleenex".  
    
    Just imagine the advantage Bayer would have today if they were the only
    ones sellilng aspirin, which they invented by the way, and all the
    other manufacturers of the white crystalline compound of
    acetylsalicylic acid had to sell it under that name?
    
    Xerox and Coca-Cola have platoons of lawyers who do nothing but
    write letters to publishers complaining about using Coke and Xerox
    as common words, often uncapitalized.  Coca-cola even has people
    roaming the country asking in every little soda shop for "a Coke".
    If they're served anything but The Real Thing, the owners get a
    letter from one of those lawyers, and sometimes a followup visit.
    
    The worst thing that can happen to a trademark is to become a word.
    Every maker of jackknives has a "Barlow" in their line.  Used to
    be only Barlow could sell them.
    
    
556.18You want me to what?CRLVMS::TREESEWin Treese, Cambridge Research LabWed Sep 21 1988 00:0817
    I've heard "Xerox" used as a verb for years.  But a friend of mine
    who worked for IBM once had something like the following conversation
    with a secretary:
       "Would you xerox this for me, please?" said he.
       "What?"
       "Would you xerox this, please?"
       "Oh, you mean PHOTOCOPY it."
    
    Re .11
    
    > Doable  - Does this mean that if you can't complete the
    >           specific task in question that it's "Undoable"?
    
    When I've heard it used, that's exactly what it means.
    
    	- Win
    
556.19xerox, frisbee, and McX.AKOV12::MILLIOStwentysomethingFri Sep 23 1988 00:0821
    re: .18
    
    A friend's sister noticed that the copy machine down the hall from
    her office wasn't working.  Hmm.  Call company.
    
    "Hello, Service Department."
    "Hi, this is so-and-so from such-and-such, and our xerox machine
    isn't working... Can you send somebody out, and look at it?"
         (***  notice lack of CAPS on "xerox"... ***)
    "(long pause.) (frostily)  We will send out an IBM Service 
    Representative to examine your copy machine this afternoon."
    "(equally long pause.)  Oh.  Thanks."
    
    Same thing goes for Frisbee.  It's not a frisbee, it's a flying
    disc.
    
    McDonald's also jumped on somebody who opened a restaurant named
    "McSushi"...  Fast food, served raw.
    
    :^)
    Bill
556.20ERIS::CALLASI saw Elvis kissing Santa ClausFri Sep 23 1988 02:304
    If you don't like the verb "xerox," you're really not going to like
    its elided form, "xox." It's pronounced "zocks."
    
    	Jon
556.21IndoableDSSDEV::CANTORmoderatorFri Sep 23 1988 04:2211
      Re 'doable'
      
      'Undoable' should mean capable of being undone.  To undo something
      is to return it to the state it was in before the something
      was done.   "Undo your shoe laces, Johnny, before pulling off
      your shoes."  The shoe laces are undoable.
      
      If there were to be a word to describe something which cannot be
      done, it would be 'indoable' or 'nondoable.' 
      
      Dave C.
556.22unpardonable sinVENICE::SKELLYSun Sep 25 1988 06:402
    I used to do consulting at Xerox. They got upset if you said you
    were going to xerox something in their own offices.
556.23It's better to xerox PSTJTT::TABERAnswer hazy -- ask again laterMon Sep 26 1988 19:173
Re: Xerox

	It could be worse...what if A.B. Dick invented the copier first?
556.24EAGLE1::EGGERSTom, 293-5358, VAX ArchitectureTue Sep 27 1988 00:532
    Right. Can you imagine "aeebee"ing an original to get a copy?
    
556.25Overkill Dept.DLNVAX::BREEDINGWed Sep 28 1988 00:447
What about the phrase:


	MASSIVELY PARALLEL COMPUTING


Is this macho, or what?
556.26Sorry, it's the standard termMINAR::BISHOPWed Sep 28 1988 01:0310
    re .25, "Massively parallel computing"
    
    No, there's a real distinction between small-scale paralleism
    (two to ten), medium-scale (hundreds) and large-scale
    parallelism (tens of thousands and up).
    
    Each regime has typical kinds of attributes (cost, kind of hardware,
    problems it is good for, programming methods and so on).
    
    			-John Bishop
556.27Massively Parallel ComputingEAGLE1::EGGERSTom,293-5358,VAX&amp;MIPS ArchitectureWed Sep 28 1988 03:393
    John's comment in .26 is correct. While you (or we) might say, "There
    MUST be a better term," it is usefully descriptive. I don't know of a
    good alternative. At least it hasn't turned into MPC (yet). 
556.28mpFc?AYOV27::ISMITHConsidering a move to MemphisWed Sep 28 1988 14:4510
556.29no flame, just wonderingPSTJTT::TABERAnswer hazy -- ask again laterWed Sep 28 1988 19:2011
>                       -< Sorry, it's the standard term >-
>[...]
>    No, there's a real distinction between small-scale paralleism
>    (two to ten), medium-scale (hundreds) and large-scale
>    parallelism (tens of thousands and up).
    
Odd, if it's the standard term, that you didn't use it in your 
description.  Or is there a leap from large-scale (tens of thousands and 
up) to massive (even more up than up)?

					>>>==>PStJTT
556.30PMPSSPPRGMUM::FRIDAYThu Oct 13 1988 22:416
    Can we combine .0, .6 and .25 into PMPSSP?
    That's
    Proactive Massively Parallel Series Solutions Platforms
    in case you couldn't guess.
    
    Is this the way you get to become a consulting engineer?
556.31ant vs ingEAGLE1::EGGERSTom,293-5358,VAX&amp;MIPS ArchitectureFri Oct 14 1988 02:208
    Re: .30
    
    Not at Digital. Digital doesn't have "consulting engineers". It has
    "consultant engineers" instead. I tried to get personnel to change the
    title about ten years ago and failed, even after getting about 75% of
    those engineers to sign a petition.
    
    But I've got "consulting" on my business card! 
556.32UCOUNT::BAILEYCorporate SleuthThu Oct 20 1988 00:4417
    As for other buzzwords, my current favorites are:
    
    internationalization  (makes a good password -- lots of letters,
      fairly easy to type)

    connectivity  (I know it's a valid term -- but it's overused)
    
    work that issue  
    
    own that project
    
    I think the game (correct me if I'm wrong) is to see who has the
    bravado or importance to pull off the most outrageous useage
    successfully  -- what I don't know is if there's a prize!  
    
    Sherry
    
556.33EAGLE1::EGGERSTom,293-5358,VAX&amp;MIPS ArchitectureThu Oct 20 1988 06:482
    Yes, there is a prize. You get that warm, smug, all-knowing feeling
    inside that goes with foisting another abomination off on hoi polloi.
556.34Secret codesATLAST::DROWNGoodbye 39 |:( Thu Oct 20 1988 20:368
    
    It took me two months to finally figure out that the term I18N,
    a term used all the time in SWS/E at least, stands for 
    internationalization.
    
    I cannot imagine what X400 stands for though.
    
    /sad
556.35E.g., ANSI X3T5.4 is OSI Management; Got It?DRUMS::FEHSKENSThu Oct 20 1988 22:088
    X.400 (sometimes pronounced "x dot 400") is the ISO electronic mail
    standard.  Standards and standards bodies are routinely identified
    by arcane acronyms and abbreviations.
    
    Does the 18 in I18N mean 18 letters?  Cute.
    
    len.
    
556.36difficult names made easyHAMPS::HILLTechnology Consultant - sometimesThu Nov 03 1988 17:127
    Re .34 an I18N...
    
    There is someone in Europe who habitually signs his name S14N, because
    it is difficult to spell and to pronounce, so S14N is also his VAXMAIL
    name.
    
    Nick
556.37When opportunity knocks...CAM::MILLERThis is NOT a DVN announcementThu Nov 03 1988 17:422
    A new buzzword I've heard lately (goes along with "opportunity")
    is "career-limiting".  Yuck!
556.38official substitute?EAGLE1::EGGERSTom, VAX &amp; MIPS ArchitectureThu Nov 03 1988 18:404
    "Career limiting" is hardly new, but perhaps that's beside the point.

    The term is very descriptive, and it's short. What would the author of
    .37 suggest for an alternative? 
556.39ULTRIX could have been named U4X....IJSAPL::ELSENAARFractal of the universeMon Nov 14 1988 17:4413
RE -2 (Nick)

>    There is someone in Europe who habitually signs his name S14N, because
>    it is difficult to spell and to pronounce, so S14N is also his VAXMAIL

I know of him. It is Jan Scherpenhuizen. I only thought it was S12N: start with
the S, 12 characters follow, close with N.

This must be the new escape for Digital! They told me that Digital is performing
not so well lately, because there were no unused TLA's left! :-)

Arie
556.41Memory fails when most needed (kneaded?)ODIHAM::HILLTechnology Consultant - sometimesTue Nov 15 1988 17:5413
    Re -2 and -4
    
    Yes it is S12N, not S14N
    
    And the moral of the story is:
    
    	"If you've got the manual to hand, refer to it"
    
    Which abbreviates to:
    
    	"Don't rely on memory alone".

    Nick
556.42AITG::DERAMODaniel V. {AITG,ZFC}:: D'EramoTue Nov 15 1988 21:117
     re .41
     
>>   "If you've got the manual to hand, refer to it"
     
     Shouldn't that be "at hand" instead of "to hand"?
     
     Dan
556.43Economy of wordsHSSWS1::GREGMalice AforethoughtWed Nov 16 1988 07:1911
    re: .42 (Dan)
    
>>   "If you've got the manual to hand, refer to it"
>     
>     Shouldn't that be "at hand" instead of "to hand"?
    
    	   Actually, no.  It should be:
    
    	   "Look it up yourself!"
    
    - Greg
556.44Read The Manual; the "F" is silent...SSGBPM::KENAHOverlapping chaptersThu Nov 17 1988 20:3514
>>>   "If you've got the manual to hand, refer to it"
>>     
>>     Shouldn't that be "at hand" instead of "to hand"?
    
>    	   Actually, no.  It should be:
    
>    	   "Look it up yourself!"
 
    Which in turn is further abbreviated:
    
    		RTFM!
    
    					andrew   
    
556.45AITG::DERAMODaniel V. {AITG,ZFC}:: D'EramoThu Nov 17 1988 21:405
     Just a short time ago I read something else that had "to
     hand" where I would have used "at hand."  Is the preference
     for one or the other geographical?
     
     Dan
556.466ation 4ationCLOSET::KEEFEThu Nov 17 1988 21:448
    Re .34
    
    Internationalization = 14zat3
    
    'I18N' is old hat already.
    
    -N2l
    
556.47YukRTOIC2::RSTANGEdouble double toil &amp; troubleFri Nov 18 1988 16:554
    The other day the FS engineer told me "DC dump" could that be the
    garbage disposal of Washington DC???
    Rudi.
    
556.48not quite a garbage responseFLASH1::KALLISAnger's no replacement for reason.Fri Nov 18 1988 18:017
    Re .47 (Rudi):
    
    More likely he meant to say "C D dump."
    
    As in "C Spot run." ;-)
    
    Steve Kallis, Jr.
556.49No zATLAST::DROWNGoodbye 39 |:( Fri Nov 18 1988 22:007
     
    Re .46
    
    Nope. Can't use 14zat3 because the folks across the pond replace
    the 'z' with an 's' and, in the spirit of I18N ...........
    
    
556.50Tower of B3LCLOSET::KEEFEMon Nov 21 1988 18:549
    RE .49 -
    
    Ratz! You are right, your zenzitivity to the problemz of I18Nization
    iz admirable.
    
    The cross-the-ponders will have to create their own local language 
    variant: 13 I sat 3.
    
    -N2L
556.51To/atMARVIN::KNOWLESthe teddy-bears have their nit-pickTue Nov 22 1988 17:3219
    Re .41 etc.
    
    I don't think the distinction's as neat/easy as the geographical
    idea in .45 (although I shouldn't be surprised to be told that people
    one side of the ocean tend to ignore the distinction more than
    people on the other).  
    
    The way I understand it, `to hand' refers to the physical nearness of
    an object (usually within immediate reach), whereas `at hand' refers to
    the less immediate nearness of an agent or agency (often human). EG:
    
    	o	the book was to hand/help was at hand
    
    	o	someone in a tight corner might either reach for the 
                first weapon that came TO hand or hope that reinforcements
                were AT hand. 

    
    b            
556.52Anything like:SEAPEN::PHIPPSMaybe her subroutines need debuggingTue Nov 22 1988 20:392
                         "the thought came to mind"?
556.53at, on, and to ...IOSG::LAWMExit functionality---enter functionTue Nov 22 1988 21:2915
    
    My dictionary (Collins English) says:
    
    	o  at hand - very near or close, esp. in time
    
    	o  on hand - close by; present
    
    	o  to hand - accessible
    
    Consequently, something could be to hand without being at hand,
    and _vice versa_.
    
    Mat.
    *:o)
    
556.54Is your underware mouseable?CUPMK::SLOANETempus is fugitingMon Dec 12 1988 22:446
    
    Underware - a $1.98 name for a program that runs transparently.
    
    Mouseable - a program that you can control with a mouse. 
    
    Bruce
556.55CLARID::BELLDavid Bell, Service Technology @VBOTue Dec 13 1988 13:195
	There did actually used to be a company called "UnderWare"
	developing PC based sofware.  Their main product was called
	the Basic Reconfiguarable Interactive Editing Facility

		- BRIEF
556.56The undercover story?CUPMK::SLOANETempus is fugitingWed Dec 14 1988 00:178
    Re -.1
    
    I understand the company had a short history: It was stripped of all 
    assets, brought to its knees, and, exposed to the marketplace, slowly
    went down. Or was there a coverup someplace?
                                                                 
    Bruce
     
556.57I've just had a right giggleWARDER::SACKFIELDkeep on trucking ....Tue Dec 20 1988 14:2413
   Hello everyone,
    
    I have just spent a very enjoyable few minutes reading this conference.
                                   
    I love everyone's sense of humour - I've driving my colleague, Paul
    Joy potty cos I keep giggling and he's busily working away creating
    DECslides for a presentation -                                
                                                                 
    
    Regards
    
    Janice Sackfield
    Warrington UK 
556.58of all names....IJSAPL::ELSENAARFractal of the universeTue Dec 20 1988 15:089
RE -1 (Janice)

>    ..... - I've driving my colleague, Paul
>    Joy potty cos I keep giggling .....

Remind him of a relative: Sharon N. Joy

Arie

556.59..and his female cousin, Helen JoyLAMHRA::WHORLOWPrussiking up the rope of life!Wed Dec 21 1988 02:311
    
556.60EAGLE1::EGGERSTom, VAX &amp; MIPS architectureWed Dec 21 1988 04:131
    And his blind Chinese cousin, the airline pilot, No Joy.
556.61A slight distinction...OSL07::HENRIKWDyslexia lures OKWed Dec 21 1988 11:541
    Paul to friends, Joy to the world.
556.62You're all mad41996::SACKFIELDkeep on trucking ....Thu Dec 22 1988 16:087
    You are all mad !!!!
    
    No Paul doesn't know Sharon N. Joy
          
    Have a wonderful Xmas and New Year
    Love  
    Janice
556.63but, doctor, Janice TOLD me....51402::ELSENAARFractal of the universeThu Dec 22 1988 17:155
>    You are all mad !!!!

Finally, someone who understands us....

Arie
556.64no more ZZZZ's pleaseRTOIC3::RSTANGEdouble double toil &amp; troubleFri Dec 23 1988 14:497
    having been on the road for some time, coming to read the replies
    to .47 just now, and I do jiggle, for you take me for the "people
    from the other side of the pond" (of course I take it for a compliment)
    but I am from Germany (as a complement). In future I'll convert
    to English "No more ZZZZs". Happy holidays,
    Rudi
    
556.65busswords, anyone?IJSAPL::ELSENAARFractal of the universeFri Dec 23 1988 15:087
556.66You saw it here first!SKIVT::ROGERSBut Otto, what about our relationship?Fri Jan 20 1989 18:397
While going through our latest round of "affordability" exercises (there's 
another abomination), I read about "Midcro" metrics.  Somewhere between 
"Macro" and "Micro".

Arrrgggghhhh!!!

Larry
556.67Huh?IOSG::LAWMMathew Law (only *one* T), Reading UKMon Apr 24 1989 22:2312
This seems as good a place as any to enter the following little gem that arrived
in a memo this morning.  No names, no pack-drill.  (And if the writer is reading
this, then I'm not in for the next several months... :-)

	"...we will be transitioning to this new organisation as
	 we work the details of roles and responsibilities..."

No comment!

Mat.
*:o)
556.68Don't worryIOSG::CARLINDick Carlin IOSGTue Apr 25 1989 17:087
    Re .67
    
    Don't worry Mat. The writer is away on holiday. Usual procedure for
    reorganisation announcements.
    
    Dick