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Conference taveng::bagels

Title:BAGELS and other things of Jewish interest
Notice:1.0 policy, 280.0 directory, 32.0 registration
Moderator:SMURF::FENSTER
Created:Mon Feb 03 1986
Last Modified:Thu Jun 05 1997
Last Successful Update:Fri Jun 06 1997
Number of topics:1524
Total number of notes:18709

895.0. "PC's in Israel?" by TALLIS::GOYKHMAN (Nostalgia ain't what it used to be) Sat Feb 24 1990 01:32

    	I want to bring a computer as a gift to Israel. I am leaving in
    a few days, and one idea that I had was getting a Toshiba 1000 - it's
    easy to carry, portable and relatively inexpensive. Does anybody here
    know if there is a substantial technical difference between PC
    standards in Israel and USA? I know the TV systems are different, and
    I know Toshibe sell somewhat different models in Israel, but it may be
    just marketing gloss. Has anybody tried to bring a PC, especially a
    laptop into Israel before? Or used one bought in the States? How
    expensive are the add-on peripherals and software for 3.5 inch format?
    
    DG
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895.1Check the Customs regulations first!ERICG::ERICGEric GoldsteinSun Feb 25 1990 20:058
>    	I want to bring a computer as a gift to Israel. I am leaving in
>    a few days, and one idea that I had was getting a Toshiba 1000 - it's
>    easy to carry, portable and relatively inexpensive.

Define "relatively inexpensive".  I'm not intimately familiar with Israeli
Customs rules regarding computers, but before you leave, you should make
sure that they aren't going to hit you with a zillion-dollar import duty.
Don't risk getting a nasty surprise when you arrive.
895.2100% Duty/Deposit Required on EntryASTEWT::SEGALLen Segal, MLO6-1/U30, 223-7687Mon Feb 26 1990 02:4915
     Since  I  was  in  Israel  last  November,  I  researched this  area
     thoroughly before my trip.  Items such as videocams, computers, etc.
     require a  deposit  of  100%  of  the  item's value (according to an
     extensive value list  that  the  Israeli Police maintain) in cash or
     "plastic".  Upon leaving Israel, you must prove that you are leaving
     with the item and they will give you  back  your  deposit.    If you
     leave without the item, the deposit serves as the Import Duty on the
     item.
     
     Electronic  and  high tech items cost ~300% of US  prices  and  some
     items are not available due to the high cost of importing them.
     
     Regards,
     
     Len
895.3It All DependsKYOA::SCHORRMon Feb 26 1990 19:346
    Some times they do and sometimes they don't.  On my recent trip nobody
    was required to put up any money for anything.  We were part of several
    AJC tours arriving at the same time and were hustled through customs by
    our guides.
    
    WS
895.4you had proteksiaTOTH::CHERSONtake giant stepsMon Feb 26 1990 21:476
    re: .3
    
    You weren't required to put up anything because you were under the
    "proteksia" of the AJC, etc.
    
    --David
895.5More technical info?TALLIS::GOYKHMANNostalgia ain't what it used to beMon Feb 26 1990 22:5611
    	Thanks for the warnings, so far. I know that we might be expected
    to put up "bail" for the PC. If so, I'll just take it back home with
    me. I can buy a Toshiba 1000 for aboout $700 here, and that's a bit
    much for a gift anyways. If I had to pay triple that price...
    	How about the technical aspects? Does anyone know if peripherals
    and intefaces are the same as here? Should I get some software with
    the PC too? My uncle mostly needs a simple database and wordprocessing,
    he does a lot of work with volunteer efforts to absorb the new Russian
    olim.
    
    DG
895.6Power supply matchingCLT::CLTVAX::dickDick Schoeller - Failed XperimentTue Feb 27 1990 01:204
The other question is whether there are any difficult power or communication
matching problems between US and Israeli versions of PCs.

Gavriel
895.7relevant standardsERICG::ERICGEric GoldsteinTue Feb 27 1990 11:545
Israel uses standard European current: 220 volts, 50 Hz.  (The U.S. and
Canada use 120 volts and 60 Hz.)

Don't know about differences in communication.  All recent Digital computers
number bits from right to left, which may help.  :-)
895.8100% Duty/Deposit on ComputersSAFETY::SEGALLen Segal, MLO6-1/U30, 223-7687Wed Jun 06 1990 01:1015
     Since  I  was  in  Israel  last  November,  I  researched this  area
     thoroughly before my trip.  Items such as videocams, computers, etc.
     require a  deposit  of  100%  of  the  item's value (according to an
     extensive value list  that  the  Israeli Police maintain) in cash or
     "plastic".  Upon leaving Israel, you must prove that you are leaving
     with the item and they will give you  back  your  deposit.    If you
     leave without the item, the deposit serves as the Import Duty on the
     item.
     
     Electronic  and  high tech items cost ~300% of US  prices  and  some
     items are not available due to the high cost of importing them.
     
     Regards,
     
     Len