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Conference taveng::bagels

Title:BAGELS and other things of Jewish interest
Notice:1.0 policy, 280.0 directory, 32.0 registration
Moderator:SMURF::FENSTER
Created:Mon Feb 03 1986
Last Modified:Thu Jun 05 1997
Last Successful Update:Fri Jun 06 1997
Number of topics:1524
Total number of notes:18709

128.0. "Jewish Singles at Digital" by NONAME::MAHLER (Michael) Mon May 19 1986 16:13


		Jewish Singles at Digital 
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128.1hallelujah!CIPHER::ZOLINAMon May 19 1986 17:375
    I am Rima Zolina divorced F, 52, 5'7", 180 lb
    Live near Manchester NH, work at MK1.
    For mor detail see my ad  in THE_PHOENIX, entry 34.
    Reply to CIPHER::ZOLINA
    
128.3SJM, 28 etc etcLSMVAX::SANDERWarren SanderTue May 20 1986 14:3815
    Warren Sander (see I'm doing it even though I said I wouldn't)..
    28, 5' 10 1/2", Brown Hair, Brown Eyes. 215lbs (Down from much much
    more than that and working on 190)
    
    Prefer someone 24-28 who lives somewhere in on a Map (I have a hard
    time finding anyplace around here, I live in Framingham and work in 
    Marlboro). I've been living in Mass for 2 years before that I lived
    in Kansas City.
    
    Like: Comics (old), SF, Movies (most any kind except Horror I don't
    like gore), food (but not too much), TV (sometimes too much), Bridge,
    Vegas, Travel (40-60% of my job), Movie Classics, Classic Animation
    (Disney, Flischer, Warner Bros, MGM), Talking, Listening, Dancing (I 
    have 2 left feet but would be willing to learn), Beaches, Europe.
    
128.5Mike KaufmanCARLIN::MAHLERMichaelFri Jun 06 1986 16:0817
< Note 128.4 by GENRAL::KAUFMAN "A Real Biker" >
                              -< I'll try it!!! >-


   Mike Kaufman...Divorced..Age 32...Height 5ft 7 1/2...Eyes Hazel..
   .Hair Red...Weight 150lbs.
   Geographic Location...Anywhere in Colorado
   Want JF Age 25-35

   I am an engineering tech.  Live in Colorado Springs.  I enjoy
motorcycles, photography, hunting, shooting, bowling, rock and classical
music.  Love dogs(my only kids).

   If just visiting, I make an excellent tour guide of the state, especially
if you let me give it on two wheels.

If interested contact me at:   Genral::Kaufman
128.8The Bean MachineVIRTUE::GREENBERGWed Aug 06 1986 12:1924
    
    My name is Michael Greenberg, more commonly known to my good friends
    by my nickname "Bean". I am a 22 year old white male, 5'7" tall,
    150 pounds, with red hair and hazel eyes.
    
    I began working as a software engineer in Nashua about a month ago,
    after graduating from the University of New Hampshire in May. I
    live in Manchester, N.H., although I am extremely mobile.
    
    I am into most kinds of physical activity, especially tennis,
    weightlifting, ice hockey, and skiing. I consider myself to be in
    very good condition. I also have many other interests that number
    too many to list.
    
    I am interested in meeting single females preferably in the 20-25
    year old age bracket. Two qualities I seek most in a women is that
    she be reasonably intelligent and at least somewhat athletic. 
    
    Interested parties (and I do love to party) can send me mail at
    SQM::GREENBERG or call me at DTN 881-2657. 
    
    Shalom,
      Mike
    
128.12POETRY IN EMOTIONSETH::GRACETue Sep 09 1986 13:179
    Thanks for taking the time to read this note. You can find out more
    about me by reading note #7 in Singles and note #659 in WHOAREYOU
    registry> I have a passionate interest in art,(photography)music,movies
    and humor! I"m cosidered good-looking and some say I look like Tom
    Hanks the actor who is in Splash (movie) and Nothing in Common(movie).
     If your interested, please read those notes,especially if you like
    poetry! I can be reached at node SETH::GRACE           
                                                       RUSS GRACE
128.14"Lance Simon"CLUSTA::SIMONLance A. SimonFri Oct 17 1986 21:3519
Name: Lance Simon
Work: VAX ACMS Software Engineer, Nashua, NH
Born: Oct 28, 1957
Home: Arlington, MA
Height: 5' 8-1/2"
Weight: 150
Hobbies: People, swimming, cooking, outdoors, people, movies, everything Jewish.

I am from California, originally; came to New England for graduate school some
three years ago. For some reason I knew I would love the Boston area - its
people, its age (nothing in CA is over 100 years old!) and the more intense
seasons. I haven't been disappointed.

I live in a shared house, in Arlington, with three friends and a cat. It's a 
bit of a drive (40 min) to/from work, but worth it! I want to soon live in the
country, but am unwilling as of yet to give up the cultural luxuries of Boston!
            
Cheers,
Lance
128.16Reach out and touch someoneSWATT::POLIKOFFMy apple trees have no peers.Fri Nov 07 1986 22:238
    rep .15
    	Good for you for taking a chance. I now some mature lonely women
    who are lonely because they sit home waiting for men to fall out
    of the sky. If someone wants to meet people they should let that
    fact be known. Also in this day in age it is perfectly proper for
    a lady to call a gentleman. She does not have to sit by the phone
    sad and lonely. When I was between wives, ( that sounds obscene )
    I was very happy when a lady called me. 
128.18It Works, It WorksRAMONA::ROBBINSRich RobbinsThu Jan 15 1987 00:483
    This note has worked for me.
    
    -- Rich
128.19WFOVX3::KLEINBERGERmisery IS optionalTue Feb 03 1987 18:213
    The singles conference worked for me
    
    Gale
128.20Escaped from NY, Nashua SJM seeks Jewish DigitsSMURF::ROBWed Mar 11 1987 21:2273
    Name: Robert Chesler
    Age:  22
    Sex:  M
    Kosher: Yes
    Religious: No    
    Location: MK02-1/J9 Merrimack, NH
    DTN:  264-0896
    E-mail: gorge::rob
    
    I guess that's all the standard stuff.  So here goes the rest...
    
    I'm really glad to see thes forum.  I've been with Digital for 9
    months and hardly even know who is Jewish around me.  I've played
    peano::singles a bit, with hopes that I might recognize some Jewish
    names, although at this point in my life, dating is not necessarily
    reserved for Jewish women.  For marriage, I can just say that I
    hope that it will end up that way.  So far, my track record has
    not indicated that this will be the case however.
    
    I am an engineer in the Ultrix group.  I live in Nashua, and generally
    commute to MK02 by motorcycle.  I've ridden with the Capitalist
    Tools, in NJ, and with the Temple Beth Abraham Rabbi.  I don't get
    to go the the temple too often, not this year (English) yet, and
    this Hebrew year I think only once or twice.  The very first Friday
    evening service I went to (in my life) was in June, when I wanted
    to met the Jewish community in Nashua, especially the Jewish women.
    I have been dissapointed by those efforts.
    
    I am not yet fully adjusted to real world singles life, the college
    campus was a lot better, although not very Jewish, either.  I grew
    up in the Bronx, went to school in Princeton, NJ, and I miss the
    latter, not the former.
    
    I do go back to both fairly often, and my brief scan of this notes
    file indicated that the NY <--> NE trip is a common one.
    
    I would like to meet Jewish women at DEC, or otherwise, from around
    this area.  I enjoy an evening in Cambridge for social drinking/bowling
    and most other things.  I regret that I haven't gone skiing as much
    as living in New England should allow me, so Skiing would be a real
    plus.  My favorite skiing place is Stowe, VT.  I have enjoyed Crotched
    mountain for "long lunch" skiing.
    
    I like to cook, too.  Since I keep kosher, I do not get to enjoy
    all the good food at the restaurants I go to.  I go, and after a
    brief explanation, usually in Mandarin, I order something vegetarian.
    I never feel that great about it, but I determined a while back
    that the benefits of eating out with friends is greater than the
    never going out.  I have a souped up tuna sandwich almost every
    day at the MK02 cafeteria.
    
    But back to cooking, so, when I want to share a meaty meal with
    friends, I do the cooking, or I supply the meat.
    
    
    There is a greater Manchester Jewish singles group, that I get mail
    from.  I joined them only once, and found the crowd to be older.
    I only later found out that they intend their membership to be older
    than 25.  So, I would be very interested in meeting Young Jewish
    Singles regardless of sex for socializing.  Nashua just hasn't been
    doing that for me as much as I would like.  I probably should have
    put this in a separate note since most men tend not to read other
    men's postings, but as an Ultrix person I can barely handle editing
    the few lines I can see.  Maybe a new note will develop for non-dating
    socializing.
    
    So, if you can relate to anything I've said, or anything you think
    I might have said if I knew how to edit on VMS, send a note to
    gorge::rob or call me at dtn 264-0896.
    
    --Robert
    
    	
128.21The Original Nice Jewish GirlISBG::ROSENBLUHWed Mar 11 1987 21:4424
128.22Anonymoose Entry #128.22ZEPPO::MAHLERIf I were YOU, then I wouldn't be ME. Wait, what?Thu Mar 12 1987 02:49130
    Who am I
    ========

    I'm me.  How do you like me so far?

    Things I Like to do:
    ===================

    I'm a Traveler.  If I have spare time it is usually spent
    exploring places I have not been to.  Whether by car or
    foot, I enjoy meeting new people and seeing things I have
    not seen before!  My vacations are like gold to me and
    I love to plan vacations to foreign countries or to
    states I have never been to!

    Most weekends during ski season I can be found
    in museums, Fanuel Hall during the day and out to eat at night
    [or skiing of course].  Not being from this area originally,
    I find there is alot more to explore in Boston and that
    I have only just now begun to discover what it has to offer,
    and am always looking for new events or places!

    In terms of Music, I enjoy mostly all kinds...in particular
    are Progressive Rock [The Cure, Talking Heads, XTC, Peter Gabriel],
    Reggae [Any really] and Classical but I do not limit myself
    and will buy an album that someone mentions is worth a 
    listen to [depending on their taste of course]!

    Saturdays I like to go on small road trips.  I have not
    even been to the northern areas of New England since
    I have been here so I would like to do more of this!
    For more excitement I like to dance [Spit, Metro,
    Red Parrot, The Limelight, AREA!] and just generally
    have a great time with my friends.  Friends.  My friends
    are my support as I am for them.  Friends are very
    important to me and I truly value them!

    Sunday is my day for relaxation and self gratification!
    I greet each week by reading the Globe, over a LARGE breakfast,
    and then buying everything from the Lechmere circular 
    [I hate decisions]!  
    
    Cooking!  How could I forget!?  I love to cook!

    People I'm Attracted to
    =======================
    
    "We see ourselves in others."
				-- A Clone?

    Honesty is an important quality that I try to keep 
    in mind within myself, and that I try to see in others.
    Although I consider this important, it is difficult to
    be honest sometimes without hurting someone's feelings
    [which makes you wonder if you are hitting to close
    to home] or having someone shy away since they feel
    pressured, perhaps you can relate to this.  Realistic
    loyalty, trust, affection, time, thoughts and food
    are things that I hold dear.

    Generally, i'm a very understanding person, if a
    friend needs to talk, I will make time to talk
    to him or her.  I also expect the same from those,
    that I call, my friends when I am in 'need' or
    if I just want to babble about something
    that is on my mind.  I try to surround myself
    with people that enjoy, not only the material
    things, the goals in life that I seem to strive
    for, and if I can't find anyone, i'll pay others. 8-}

    What I do for DEC
    =================

    I'm a Software Engineer.  Anything beyond that might sound
    boring and nerdy so i'll leave it for later, but I will
    mention that Flex time is the best part of this job..!


    How I Appear
    ============

    Well, I guess the best way to start is to give the
    general statistics as everyone seems to like to try
    to put a face with the writing, which I can understand,
    as I try to do the same with everyone I have read in 
    this file, and have been more often wrong than right
    [guess we all can't help inserting our favorite fantasy
    into a 2-dimensional description]...

    Born:   May 1962	{Gemini - no your not! yes I am! no your not!...}
    Eyes:   Brown
    Hair:   Dk Brown in the Winter
	    Lt Brown in the Summer depending how much suntan
		lotion gets in it.
    Height: 5'8"
    Weight: 155 [Proportional, as they say.  Who's they?]
    Skin:   Not much sun here is there?
    Dress:  At work I can be found wearing very comfortable
	    clothing and like to dress according to my moods
	    or to a particular occassion, but in general I
	    dress casually, but neat, and like to see others
	    who feel comfortable with what they wear.
    

    Who am I looking for
    ====================

    Although many people say that writing about themself
    is the hardest part of these entries, I must say that
    putting down in writing WHO you would like to meet
    me much more difficult.  Really, I mean you don't want to
    just say that only women between 5'3 and 5'5 should reply
    because that might stop someone who is 5'6 from replying
    who might very well be a great person!  SO, how about this...

	If you are someone who can appreciate the values I
	have entered here and is 

	    attractive but unpretentious,
	    confident but not stubborn,
	    aggressive but not overbearing, 
	    affectionate but not suffocating, 
	    independent but not closed,
	    fit but not compulsive...

	and are between, say, 20-28 ish, then why not
    send off a message telling me what you think or just
    who you are!
    
128.23TORA::GKLEINBERGERmisery IS optionalThu Mar 12 1987 21:3212
128.24SJF IN NY LOOKING FOR SJM IN SAME LOCALENYMGR::COHENWed Mar 25 1987 17:4510
    HI!  Any Jewish Singles in the New York/New Jersey Area?  I am a
    single, 28 year old, jewish female with a great love for life and
    the adventures that it holds.  I'm looking for friend first, and
    a lover second.  
    
    I would like a SJM, age 26-35 [give or take] that is willing to
    deal with those awkward "first moments" in a relationship, and willing
    to work to make it work.
    
    Interested?  I can be reached at NYMGR::COHEN.
128.25my cousin in New YorkVIDEO::OSMANEric, dtn 223-6664, weight 146Wed Mar 25 1987 20:148
Hi.  I can't remember whether I mentioned my cousin to you or not.

He's a great person to know in New York (upper west side) and would
gladly share food, a subway ride, or a ball game with you !

Let me know if you'd like more info about him.

/Eric
128.26HANDSOME SJM 23CURIE::MILLERWed Apr 22 1987 02:1511
    I'm writing this for a friend of the family ... very handsome SJM,
    23, recently graduated from college in Computer Science and living
    in Boston.  From a very good family in Portland, Maine.  Looking for
    attractive SJF 21-24 interested in a serious relationship; in my
    opinion, someone is going to scoop him up FAST.  Send all responses to:
    
    FULTON::MILLER, tell me a little about yourself, age, interests,
    etc.
    
    Thanks                                        
    Robin
128.27Formerly note 128.12 MAGIC1::GRACETue Apr 28 1987 02:467
    	I'm now in a Software Technical Writing program in MRO2 and
    can be contacted at MAGIC1::GRACE. I'm still the dependable sincere
    person that I was before only a few months older and more keenly
    involved with tennis,biking, photography, art, music, and people. 
    
    	Try it, you'll like it! 
    					Russ
128.28My Cousin SusanBMT::COMAROWSun May 03 1987 19:1121
    
    I'm writing about my cousin Susan.
    
    Sue is a beautiful, blue eyed, 36 year old, liberated brunette.  She is
    a practicing attorney.   
    
    Sue is a talented and creative artist.  She is a gourmet cook,
    interested in international affairs,  studied in Europe and 
    Israel.   She's interested in animals, nature, swimming, movies, 
    theater and new interests. 
    
    She is not religious.  She currently lives in South Jersey, 
    and visits family in  NY quite often.   She knows nothing
    about computers. 
    
    To find out more about Susan send mail to me at this address.
       
                                        Regards,
                                        bob
    
128.29trying not to be a J.A.P.AMBER::STEARMANWed Jun 03 1987 19:0325
    Name: Susan Stearman
    Birthdate: 1-12-55 (that makes me 32, but who's counting)
    Biol: 5'4"  115lbs  Strawberry blond hair  Grey/green eyes
    
    (oiy, its hard to describe oneself to a computer!)
    I am originally from the D.C. area but have been living in Mass
    for 10 years since getting my B.S.  I have been working in the computer
    graphics field most of these ten years and really like it alot.
    (Also, I speak UNIX and hardly any VMS; please don't hold it against
    me)
    
    I currently live in Cambridge near Hardvard Square and I love it.
     The only bad thing is driving out here to Maynard for work.
    
    The list of "facinating" hobbies:
    cooking, music, theater, sewing & needlecrafts, dancing, dinners
    with friends, travel, trying new things
    
    You really have to meet me to get the full effect, so send me mail
    and we'll talk.  I am looking for a Jewish man who is willing to
    start a relationship.  Age is not important but 30s is a good bet.
     Looks are not important, just be a good guy!  
    
    
    
128.30Its me is that you?GLIVET::YANCOWed Jun 24 1987 14:3127
SJM
Age 39
6' Tall
Brown Hair
Blue Eyes
220 lbs

Growing up means you don't have to grow up!


39 year old Software Engineer, that still feels that he is only 25 years
old.

Likes going on Motorcycle rides, sitting by the swimming pool, walks in
the moonlight, old westerns, board games, driving thru the country, traveling
to new and different places, partying with my friends, playing
pinball machines, pool, good conversation, dining out and hundreds of other 
things.

More comfortable in my dungarees then anything else. Friends and Freindship
is one of the most important things in my life. 

Would like to find an easy going woman to share life with.  I'm a smoker. 
I live in the Merrimack NH area.

Steve 
128.31MENSCHs FROM NY PLEASE RESPONDNYMGR::COHENTue Jul 07 1987 19:173
 If you are interested, please see note 361 in PEANO::SINGLES.  My ad
    is there, and easier to read than reproduce, and that says it all!
    
128.33SJM looking for SJFESPN::STRAUSSTue Jul 21 1987 21:5228
    
    I've never written one of these before, so I hope that this doesn't
    sound too stupid...
    
    I am 25, single, 5'8", 140 lbs, and living in Boston.  I am a grad 
    student between my first and second year of business school working 
    for Digital for the summer.  My hobbies include hiking, cycling,
    reading, guitar, and most sports - particularly tennis, skiing, and 
    softball.  My musical tastes range from contemporary
    rock (no punk rock or heavy metal) to "older rock" to classical.
    I am a fairly active person; I much prefer spending a weekend hiking
    or cycling to lying on a beach or watching sports on TV.  I am a
    little old fashioned (in some ways), not very religious, and a bit
    of a romantic.
    
    I am looking for someone roughly my age (between 21 and 28) with
    similar interests.  My one request is that whoever I meet should
    have the same attitude about this as I do: meeting creates no 
    obligation (to meet again) on either person's part.  (Hopefully, 
    this will make it more fun and less awkward for both of us.)  I will 
    only be at Digital until the third week of August.  If you would like 
    to meet for an informal evening or weekend brunch, please send 
    me mail at ESPN::STRAUSS.
    
    Larry
    
    
    O.K. now, how stupid did that sound?
128.34YASJM (Yet another Single Jewish Man)ULTRA::WITTENBERGDelta Long = -d(sin A/cos Lat)Wed Jul 29 1987 22:2136
Sex:	Male
Age:	30
Hair:	Brown
Beard:	Reddish-brown
Location: work in Littleton, live in Hudson
Last time in Shul:  Yom Kippur
Height: 5'10"
Weight:  12 stone (I'm getting bored by statistics, so you'll have
		    to look it up.)

    More important  than the dry numbers: I graduated from Brandeis in
    82,  then  moved  to  Providence and New Haven for Grad school and
    picked up a couple of Master's degrees. I moved back to the Boston
    area  in  Jan  (when  I  started with DEC), and am finally getting
    settled.

    I tend  to be fairly easy going (except when I'm competing which I
    limit  to  sailing  and volleyball, and I've even learned to teach
    during  a race if nothing else is going on) and like to spend time
    talking  with  friends.  I  enjoy word play, puns, and similar low
    humor.

    My interests  are  wide  ranging,  from  sailing  and bicycling to
    theatre and theory of computation (which is what my last degree is
    in, and I still follow the literature a bit).

    I tend to like small groups (sailing with a 9 person crew is about
    as  big a group as I'm comfortable with), and am particularly fond
    of cooking for (and with) one or two others.

    What am  I  looking  for in a woman? I can't really categorize the
    women  I've  found  attractive.  You must be smart, and a sense of
    humor helps, but beyond that anything's possible, so send me mail,
    and see where it goes from there.

--David
128.35I'm not Jewish, but I have a friend.....NATASH::KETTMon Jan 11 1988 19:5810
    I'm not Jewish, but I have a very nice, attractive, vivacious friend
    who is. She's 33, 5'5'' and athletic (skiing and tennis are the
    preferred activities). She also like movies, the theatre and lively
    conversations. She doesn't smoke.
    
    If this sounds like someone you would like to have coffee with,
    send me some facts about yourself and I'll be Uncle Yenta.
    
    Alan Kett
    OGO 1-1/g12; DTN:276-9696
128.36new person on the blockCSCMA::GILDERMon Apr 25 1988 17:5710
    Name:  Adriane-Karen Gilder
    Age:   38
    Sex:   Female
    DTN:   292-2565 (Customer Service Center, Westboro)
    
    Hi, I'm new to the Bagels file and would like to try to meet other
    Jewish Deccies to participate in singles activities and hopefully
    make some new friends.
    
    So if any of you would like to correspond, please do.
128.38RANCHO::HOLTRobert Holt, UCO-1Sun Nov 13 1988 01:088
    
    Robert Holt
    Principal Software Engineer
    Ultrix Applications Group, Palo Alto, CA
    
    Age 36
    5'11" 
    195#  
128.39Looking for a LadyWR1FOR::ADELMAN_AAFri Apr 28 1989 23:0016
    Aaron Adelman
    Santa Clara, California
    WRO1-1/A1
    DTN 521-0200
    
    Age 27
    never married
    college educated
        
    I am Jewish by birth and a Christian in the sight of God. I believe
    that Jesus is the messiah according to the law that Moses had recorded.
    I am a sharp gentleman who has a lot going for me. I would like
    to date a young lady who has similar circumstances. I am actively
    serving the Lord in a local Baptist Church.

    Aaron
128.40wrong conferenceAKOV11::COHENAndrew B. CohenSat Apr 29 1989 00:301
I think you're in the wrong conference
128.41Retraction, please?BMW320::BERNSTEINNow vee may perhaps to begin.Yes?Mon May 01 1989 02:3013
    re .40:
    >> I think you're in the wrong conference
    
    I don't think that remark is appropriate.  Myself, I subscribe to 
    different practices of certain religions.  Does that make me not
    welcome here?  I thought this conference is for ANYONE interested
    in Jewish issues.
    
    Don't discount other people's "discoveries", even if they don't match
    yours.
    
                                             IMHO,
                                                   .steve.
128.42hesitant agreement with .40ERICG::ERICGEric GoldsteinMon May 01 1989 05:227
With some reluctance, I agree with .40.  The topic title is "Jewish Singles
at Digital", and the gentleman in .39 sounds more like a Jewish convert
to Christianity.  We have had a lot of discussion in this conference about
whether a Jew who considers himself a Christian is still considered Jewish,
and I think that it is safe to say that there is much disagreement on the
subject.  Given that the gentleman is *definitely* a Christian, however,
the Christian notes file might be a more appropriate place than BAGELS.
128.43Even if he's not Jewish, shouldn't he be allowed to associate with Jewish women?BMW320::BERNSTEINNow vee may perhaps to begin.Yes?Mon May 01 1989 15:1916
re .42:

I get the impression that your underlying premise is that a Jewish girl 
(a "real" Jew) would have no interest in such a person, or any such person
that doesn't see Judaism as the ONLY proper doctrine and/or the only one
worth associating with.  I don't like the sounds of that - but I don't want
to put words in your mouth.

Perhaps this gentleman hopes that Jewish women here are more "open-minded"
than that (without putting words in HIS mouth, either).  Did it ever occur
to you that he likes to talk to Jewish women about their religious beliefs?

Maybe I'm weird, but such "selectivity" bothers me.  I have other synonyms
for "selectivity", but I'd rather not suggest them unless I have to.

                                  .steve.
128.44BOSTON::SOHNCan't get out of the game...Mon May 01 1989 15:4816
re: < Note 128.43 by BMW320::BERNSTEIN "Now vee may perhaps to begin.Yes?" >

> I get the impression that your underlying premise is that a Jewish girl 
> (a "real" Jew) would have no interest in such a person, or any such person
> that doesn't see Judaism as the ONLY proper doctrine and/or the only one
> worth associating with.  

	I don't see that in .42 at all. The reply in question is simply not
	appropriate for the "Jewish Singles at Digital" topic, since the 
	author is, at best, only 2 for 3 (assuming he's an employee).

	Perhaps, it would just be easier for the mod to move the note to a new
	topic - it would work toward the goal of "valuing differences", yet 
	not cause any undue consternation by remaining in this note.

eric
128.45I think I'll leave it stand...MELTIN::dickSchoeller - Xperimenting with XNotesMon May 01 1989 18:0513
Shalom,

Happy May Day!

Even though the noter practices a religion other than Judaism, he is a Jew.
As such, it is not inappropriate to post a note in a Jewish Singles topic.
I see no reason to delete the note.  On the other hand, I would be very
surprised to find that such a note in this conference would attract much
useful attention.  From that point, suggesting AN ADDITIONAL note in some
other conferences is probably a good idea (though CHRISTIAN may not be  8^{).

L'hit,
Gvriel
128.46Good man...SUTRA::LEHKYI'm phlegmatic, and that's cool.Tue May 02 1989 09:161
    re .45: Our moderator's a real decent guy, our moderator is...
128.47"selectivity"ERICG::ERICGEric GoldsteinTue May 02 1989 10:5835
.43> re .42:
.43> 
.43> I get the impression that your underlying premise is that a Jewish girl 
.43> (a "real" Jew) would have no interest in such a person, or any such person
.43> that doesn't see Judaism as the ONLY proper doctrine and/or the only one
.43> worth associating with.  I don't like the sounds of that - but I don't want
.43> to put words in your mouth.

Gee, I don't like the sound of it, either.  In any case, it has been my
experience that different Jewish girls are interested in different kinds
of people.  So are Jewish women, for that matter.  So are Jewish men, Jewish
boys, and non-Jews.

My actual "underlying premise" was that people (Jews, girls, whatever) reading
notes under the topic "Jewish Singles at Digital" would expect to find replies
from Jewish singles at Digital.  I also believe that the gentleman in question
does not, in the opinion of many readers of this conference, fall into that
category, and that therefore the note might be better placed elsewhere.
The moderator has stated that he disagrees with me on this, and of course
it's his perogative to rule on whether a note is placed appropriately.


.43> Maybe I'm weird, but such "selectivity" bothers me.  I have other synonyms
.43> for "selectivity", but I'd rather not suggest them unless I have to.

The existence of this topic suggests that there are readers who are interested
specifically in Jewish singles.  Other readers, or even some of the same
ones, may be interested in Christian singles or black singles or red-headed
divorcees or married Italians.  Notes from such people logically would be
found under the topics "Christian Singles", "Black Singles", "Red-Headed
Divorcees", and "Married Italians", respectively.

As far as I know, having such preferences violates no laws nor corporate
policies.  Selectivity is a perfectly reasonable word to describe this;
if you can think of a better one, please let us know what it is.
128.48Multiple interpretations...SUTRA::LEHKYI'm phlegmatic, and that's cool.Tue May 02 1989 14:1412
    Where have I seen this rathole before :-?
    
    If the gentleman in question is looking for a contact with a female
    Jewish single, I'd say this topic is appropriate. I, for once, would
    use it as well, had I a similar interest.
    
    Like, is it "Jewish Singles in Digital looking for ...", or "Looking
    for Jewish Singles in Digital"?
    
    Semantically yours,
    
    Chris
128.49A vote for the moderatorDECSIM::GROSSI need a short slogan that won't overflow the space availableTue May 02 1989 14:259
I have to agree with our moderator. The gentleman is a Jew and single. He is
not hiding his un-Jewish religious beliefs. If there are any female Jewish
singles reading this conference that are interested in meeting him under these
circumstances, she will not be surprised by what she finds.

I feel terrible about Aaron's religious decision but I feel we should not
pretend that he doesn't exist.

Dave
128.50I'm proud of you guysNUTMEG::PULKSTENISShare my hopeWed May 03 1989 23:3022
    re: .45,
    
    Shalom, Mr. Moderator, and all,
                                                                            
    >suggesting AN ADDITIONAL note in some other conferences is probably 
    >a good idea (though CHRISTIAN may not be  8^{)
    
     On the contrary, CHRISTIAN is an excellent suggestion, and I thank
     you for making mention of it. It has an active singles group.
     There are at least two other Jewish Christians who participate 
     in/read that conference. There may be more 'read onlys' that I
     don't know about. 
    
     As for the rest of you who supported the moderator's decision to
     let the note remain, I'm proud of you (not that it matters...but
     I am), and your courage to speak up.
    
     Irena                               
    
                               
     
128.51Play nice, y'allCSCMA::GILDERTue May 16 1989 20:1024
    Wow, several messages to really beat in a point.  I really thought
    this was a conference section for Jewish Singles at Digital to write
    and get to meet other Jewish Singles, not to beat up on a poor guy
    for his religious beliefs.  
    
    Although I am Jewish and intend to remain so, I am hardly religious
    and have been criticized many times for not observing the traditions.
    I have a feeling that it could have been one of the reasons why
    I never married.
    
    Anyone remember me?  I'm the one who wrote breaking up is hard on
    the morale.  My former relationship was an interfaith relationship
    and it didn't work out.  I was hurt enough to condemn all interfaith
    relationships.
    
    However, please let's bring this section of Bagels back where it
    belongs.  It belongs to Jewish Singles not to beat an issue to death.
    
    Adriane Gilder
    CSCMA::Gilder
    dtn 292-2565
    
    
    
128.52ULTRA::WITTENBERGSecure Systems for Insecure PeopleTue May 16 1989 21:305
    Another place  you might want to place an ad is HIT::SINGLES It is
    possible  to  place ads there anonymously if you want to, see note
    1.* for instructions.  

--David
128.53Tangential, but essential ..IND::STEINBERGTue May 16 1989 21:4219
    re .51
    
    I don't think it's THAT difficult to understand why there was an
    outpouring of emotion over the "poor guy"'s note. After all, most
    people who read this conference do so because they have strong 
    Jewish feelings, and reading about a "Hebrew-Christian" (or along
    those lines) is an insult to our sensiblities. Add to this the 
    fact that he wants to use this conference to date a Jewish girl,
    and sparks are gonna fly.
    To tell the truth, however, I am glad he submitted his note. Jews
    in general are ignorant to the extent to which other Jews have been
    lost to the Jewish community at large. For the sake of the survival
    of our people we must double and re-double our efforts for Jewish
    education. A majority of Jewish children in this country receive
    none WHATSOEVER. And of the few who do, a majority go under protest
    after a full day or week at school, and are hardly interested in
    the proceedings, and who can blame them? 
    A person can only make an informed decision about his life if he
    has been INFORMED. 
128.54...For the 'more matured' eyes only!BUCKY::BARNETTFri Oct 06 1989 17:4320
Name: Marika Barnett
Born: Jan. 28, 1934 in Budapest, Hungary
Home: Stow, MA
Work: in MR04 as a Principal Engineer (Software Dev.)
Height: 5'2"
Weight: 115 lb.
Degree of religiousness (on the scale of 1 <-> 10): 0

Family status: Divorced, 2 boys (25 & 27) living in Washington D.C.
               and L.A. respectively. One is in politics, the other
               in show business. Well,... one is a press-secretary,
               the other is a screen-writer.

Background: Came to the U.S. after the 1956 Hungarian Revolution. I am a
            child survivor of the Holocaust. Here in the U.S. I was married
            to a physician for 23 years. He was not Jewish.

Interests: Music (classical), films, photography, art, playing the recorder,
           skiing (intermed.), waterskiing, - I have more hobbies than I can
           handle (<- this is meant as self-criticism).
128.55One MoreBLKWDO::FEITTue Dec 19 1989 08:1319
    Name: Derek Feit
    Age:  33 yrs. 
    Gender: Male
    Preferred Age Group: 21-35
    Preferred Area: Southwest/ Phoenix Metro Area
    
    
      Now for the really boring stuff.
    
     New to the Phoenix area (moved here from Balto. DC area).
     Some interest include:
    
     Motorcycling, music, movies, meeting new friends, outdoors- hiking,
    camping, sports, home projects, furniture building.
    
    				Derek Feit
    				Tempe::Feit
    				no DTN, (602) 894-3086
      
128.56Traveler... in Hudson, Mass.SCHOOL::KIRKMatt Kirk -- 297-6370Tue Feb 20 1990 21:4613
Hi

I'm Matt Kirk (yeah, I know, my name's Gaelic, thanks to immigration - my
grandparents were all right out of the shtetl & spoke no English). I'm 5'
11", 25 years old, weigh less than 160 pounds, have brown hair (most of it's
left), and brown eyes.

Lots of activities appeal to me - the ones I like best are reading, theatre,
visiting museums, & being with friends, but I'm not looking for someone to
fill a shopping list so I won't list everything here - if you want to find
out more, please write...

M
128.57SJM etcSUBWAY::RAYMANBIG LouuuuuuuuuuuuThu Feb 22 1990 04:1918
Hello out there in Bagel Land.

Name : Lou Rayman
Age : 27
Religious Affiliation : (i HATE these terms) Orthodox, somewhere between
                        modern and yeshivish (ultra?)

(Not so) Vital Stats : 6'2'' 260 lbs. 

Home : West Hempstead (but i spend almost half my time in Brooklyn)

What (who) I'm Looking for: I'll know when I find it (her).

I enjoy (in no particular order) learning, basketball & baseball (playing more
than watching), reading, politics, heated discussions (esp. playing devil's
advocate), music, etc.

Send mail to SUBWAY::RAYMAN
128.58SJM continuedSUBWAY::RAYMANBIG LouuuuuuuuuuuuFri Feb 23 1990 22:395
re :-1, I almost forgot!!!

I LOVE cartoons, esp. the Bugs Bunny - Porky Pig variety!

			Louuuuuuuuuuuuuuu
128.59My single male cousin...MYCKEY::ROMANSummer's my 2nd favorite thingThu Apr 16 1992 21:0612
	I have a cousin, who is a SJM, 50 years old. He's somewhat ahy and quiet,
but once you get to know him, he's pretty funny. He's got brown hair, brown eyes
and is good looking. He's about 5' 4" and weighs aroung 135. 

	He owns a house in Salem, N.H. and spends time on his beautiful home, 
landscaping the yard and starting a vegetable garden. He likes to go to 
restaurants, movies, etc and he is a non-smoker.

	If anyone is interested, please send mail to me at MYCKEY::ROMAN and I
will pass along your message to him. 

Thanks
128.60singles classifieds still availableTNPUBS::STEINHARTLauraThu Jun 11 1992 18:547
    Following up on the recent discussion about Jewish singles, this note
    still exists for people to post singles ads if they wish.
    
    By the way, note 128.0 refers to the WHOAREYOU notes file which no
    longer exists.
    
    L