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Conference taveng::bagels

Title:BAGELS and other things of Jewish interest
Notice:1.0 policy, 280.0 directory, 32.0 registration
Moderator:SMURF::FENSTER
Created:Mon Feb 03 1986
Last Modified:Thu Jun 05 1997
Last Successful Update:Fri Jun 06 1997
Number of topics:1524
Total number of notes:18709

890.0. "Torah Online?" by ULTRA::ELLIS (David Ellis) Thu Feb 22 1990 19:59

Does anybody know if an online copy of the Torah is available?

I'd like to copy it electronically so I can have a basis for _fast_
textual search.
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890.1soc.culture.jewish?SCHOOL::KIRKMatt Kirk -- 297-6370Thu Feb 22 1990 20:265
There are on-line copies of the bible, so why not? 

Seriously, you might want to post this in soc.culture.jewish (usenet).

M
890.2GAON::jemAnacronym: an outdated acronymThu Feb 22 1990 21:2715
This information may be outdated, as I haven't checked it in a while:

		Computerized Torah Treasure
		4917 12th Ave.
		Brooklyn, NY      (718)972-1584


		Rabbi I. Roth
		131 Penn St.
		Brooklyn, NY 11211 (718)522-5404

Hope this helps.

Jem
890.3Address in IsraelTAVIS::JONATHANSun Feb 25 1990 20:3917
    The Computerized Tora Treasure is based in Israel at:
      
         59 Rabbi Akiva,
         Bnei Brak.
            
         Tel: 972-3-783262

    They have on-line the T'nach, Talmud Bavli, Yerushalmi,
    Midrash Raba, the Rambam's Yad Hachazaka with the Ravad's commentary,
    and the Shulchan Aruch with the Remah's changes.

    You can search by word, expression, or combination of words.
 
    A PC with 640K memory and hard disk of 40MB is required.

    
    Jonathan Wreschner         
890.5Davka has itEVETPU::LUWISHMon Feb 26 1990 20:297
    Davka Software in Chicago (check the note on Synagogue Management
    Software for their address/phone#) sells a Mac Tanakh published by
    Zondervan complete with vowels and accents, fonts and all kinds of
    searches.  The price is somewhere between 200 and 500 dollars (my
    memory is hazy).
    
    Ed
890.6updateULTRA::ELLISDavid EllisTue Feb 27 1990 00:478
I posted the request for Online Torah to Usenet (soc.culture.jewish).

No replies, but two mail messages asking for copies of whatever I find.

By the way, I do not have access to a Mac or IBM PC compatible.  Just
VAX/VMS and Ultrix.

Any more ideas?
890.7BOLT::MINOWGregor Samsa, please wake upSun Mar 04 1990 04:496
The back pages of most any Macintosh magazine will give the names of a
number of on-line bibles.

I have the complete King James Bible on disk somewhere.

Martin.
890.8NOTIME::SACKSGerald Sacks ZKO2-3/N30 DTN:381-2085Mon Mar 05 1990 18:384
re .7:

Yeah, but King James ain't the Torah.  I doubt if "most any Macintosh magazine"
would advertise a Hebrew Bible, or even a Jewish translation.
890.9...CLT::CLTVAX::dickDick Schoeller - Failed XperimentMon Mar 05 1990 20:599
.7, .8

I agree with Gerald, "King James" isn't the Torah.  But it does serve to show
that an English translation on-line is reasonable.  I also have a copy of "King
James" for the DECwindows bookreader (which I picked up off the net).

If I really want to read, I take my JPS translation off of the shelf.

Gav
890.10intellectual property and all thatDELNI::GOLDSTEINThe Titanic sails at dawnWed Mar 07 1990 03:024
    The KJV is in the public domain.  So everybody can sell it.  So's the
    Torah, of course, but it's a bit harder to handle on an American PC...
    Other, better translations tend to be copyrighted.
          fred
890.11KJV online??SUBWAY::RAYMANBIG LouuuuuuuuuuuuWed Mar 07 1990 05:555
re .9

where is this bookreader version of KJV???

i'd like to see it!
890.12emailCLT::KOBAL::SCHOELLERWho's on first?Wed Mar 07 1990 06:296
Lou,

I am reading from home and do not have easy access to all of my resources.
Send me email and I will let you know how to get a copy of it.

Gavriel
890.13KJV not the real McCoy.SICKO::WOLFTue Mar 13 1990 23:034
	Not only is the King James translation inaccurate in some places, but
        it simply is not the Torah in its original language.  Hebrew
    	is a rather poetic language, and a lot is lost in translation,
    	particularly idioms and infered speech.