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845.1 | Occupied by four powers makes it difficult | DECALP::SHRAGER | | Tue Dec 05 1989 13:37 | 6 |
| >...rekindle old desires .... of 50 years ago?
Let's hope not! On the other hand Germany is a _occupied_
country. It's government/army/etc. are ONLY allowed to exist
with permission of U.S., France, England, and CSSR militaries.
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845.2 | Double standard?? | BOSHOG::ENGEL | Daniel, time for bed now | Tue Dec 05 1989 13:52 | 11 |
| What really upset me about this announcement was what I heard on NPR news last
night as a result of the summit - that Germany has been told not to expect the
return of any the areas they lost during the war.
While it may be too late for Egypt, shouldn't the rest of the Arab world
(specifically Jordan and Syria) be told a similar message in regards to the
territories lost during the war?
An interesting case of the old double standard.
Steve
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845.3 | Bonn ist nicht Weimar | ABE::STARIN | INT QRK INT ZBO K | Tue Dec 05 1989 14:21 | 17 |
| Re .2:
I think the key phrase here is, "areas they lost during the war".
IMHO the triggers that brought Hitler to power were: 1. Economic
depression and, 2. The Nazi's manipulation of German grievances
with the Versailles Treaty accords (e.g., the Rhineland, Sudetenland,
etc). These later became excuses for rearmament and eventually WWII.
West Germany does not resemble the Weimar Republic in many respects
(fortunately), not to mention it is a very prosperous country. The
question remains, however, as the WWII generation of Germans passes
from the scene, and given the trend toward a decreased role for
both the Soviets and the US in Europe, is there enough impetus
presently available to ensure the horrors of WWII are not revisited
on the world again?
Mark
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845.4 | | CARTUN::FRYDMAN | wherever you go...you're there | Tue Dec 05 1989 16:16 | 8 |
| I was at Shabbos services in Baltimore a few weeks ago just as the
Berlin Wall was coming down, and the Rabbi started his sermon with some
recent words from Eli Wiesel:
"the Germans now laugh while the Jews still cry"
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845.5 | unrepentant Cold Warriors are on whose side? | DELNI::GOLDSTEIN | The bleeding edge of networks | Wed Dec 06 1989 13:13 | 27 |
845.6 | Some info | SUTRA::LEHKY | I'm phlegmatic, and that's cool. | Fri Dec 08 1989 07:20 | 25 |
845.7 | Listen to the news | HPSTEK::SIMON | Curiosier and curiosier... | Fri Dec 08 1989 14:49 | 16 |
| Re: -.1
>The only ones who, in the moment, don't speak about reunification are
>the Germans themselves.
>
> ...The
>East German population is VERY cautious about being "adopted" by their
>Oh so generous Western cousins.
>
> Updatingly yours,
I am afraid the "Updatingly ours" is incorrect. What I heard yesterday
on NPR is that the East Germans in many cities were demonstrating with
slogansof unified Germany. East German's *New Germany* (I forgot the
German spelling) called the idea "interesting". The only ones who are
not talking about unification is the East German government.
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845.8 | Daniel Schor on reunified Germany | CRUISE::SPEARL | | Fri Dec 08 1989 16:13 | 19 |
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I heard an essay by Daniel Schor on NPR last week about the reunification
of Germany. He said that while governments and political leaders talk about
possible reunification a few years from now, actual reunification is
taking place now. The West Germans are working out unoffical currency
exchanges for East Germans. West German medical personnel have gone to
East Germany to fill vacated medical positions there. Some East German
border towns have hooked up to the West German electrical power grid due
to unreliable power in the East.
He went on to say that while The East German government and economy are
collapsing there is natural move to become part of West Germany.
I think we will see the defacto reunification of Germany sooner than
many people think. Offical reunification will take longer.
Simms
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845.9 | Spelling check | ABE::STARIN | INT QRK INT ZBO K | Tue Dec 12 1989 12:23 | 5 |
| Re .7:
"Neu Deutschland" perhaps?
Mark
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845.10 | Standing corrected | SUTRA::LEHKY | I'm phlegmatic, and that's cool. | Tue Dec 12 1989 13:49 | 11 |
| It is "Neues Deutschland".
on the other item:
Spiegel (and myself) is correcting themselves (the same issue is being
discussed in the USSR notesfile): Genscher did NOT participate in the
development of Kohl's 10 point program.
Correctingly yours,
Chris
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845.11 | Just a little rusty | ABE::STARIN | INT QRK INT ZBO K | Tue Dec 12 1989 13:52 | 9 |
| Re .10:
Thanks for the correction, Chris....my German is about 20 years
rusty.
A flag might have gone up if they had used "Gross Deutschland"
instead.....
Mark
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