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Conference tallis::celt

Title:Celt Notefile
Moderator:TALLIS::DARCY
Created:Wed Feb 19 1986
Last Modified:Tue Jun 03 1997
Last Successful Update:Fri Jun 06 1997
Number of topics:1632
Total number of notes:20523

67.0. "Celtic Music: Lists of Recordings?" by ESPN::HENDRICKS (Holly Hendricks) Thu Sep 04 1986 15:45

    People often ask me about Irish music, and want lists of recordings.
    I would like to see a list in this notesfile for the this purpose.
    Can anyone list all the Chieftans' records, and the labels?
    
    How about Makem and Clancy?
    
    Or for Scots music, Silly Wizard?  (or anything by Andy Stewart)
    
    I would like to see if  we could collectively create a good list
    which folks could then extract and carry around to record stores.
    
    Thanks a lot.
    
    Holly
    
    
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67.1I don't like Andy StewartEAYV05::SHARPDrew Sharp - AYR Data Centre,ScotlandThu Sep 04 1986 16:109
    Oh no , Holly, you don't like Andy Stewart, Oh no, I can't bear
    it, not the dreaded "Scottish Soldier", he's created almost as big
    a false impression of Scotland as Harry Lauder did.
    
    Seriously if anyone wants any Scottish/Irish tapes/LP's then mail
    me, one can usually find a reasonable selection in the "Cheapo/deleted"
    sections in most Record shops.
    
    Drew
67.2Who do you like, then?ESPN::HENDRICKSHolly HendricksThu Sep 04 1986 17:3815
    I'd like to know more about who you *do* like, then.  There are a
    few music shops in Boston where it is possible to buy imported 
    Irish and Scottish music, but I'd like more information about which
    performers to look for.
    
    I don't know much about Andy Stewart.  I have enjoyed listening
    to his music on a local folk show ("The Coffeehouse, WERS).  Why
    is he considered the "dreaded Scottish Soldier"?  What is his
    background--his accent sounded Scots to me.  Is the material he
    chooses to sing not folk material?  
    
    Please reply with a list of performers who represent Scotland more
    accurately, in your opinion.  
    
    Thanks--Holly
67.3???????VIKING::TARBETMargaret MairhiThu Sep 04 1986 18:0210
    <--(.1)
    
    um, are we really talking about the same Andy Stewart here?  The "Silly
    Wizard" one?  He seems fairly innocuous t'me, Drew, if a bit on the
    irish side for someone with that surname.  Are you sure you aren't
    thinking of the chap by the same name (don't remember if the same
    spelling) who sang such memorable tunes as "Cambelton[sp?] Loch, I wish
    you were whisky (I would drink you dry)".
    
    					=maggie 
67.4over the riverSWSNOD::RPGDOCBrains clogged? Call Rent-A-WriterThu Sep 04 1986 19:4015
    While Boston may be at a loss for Celtic music in the downtown record
    stores, there are several good spots over the river in Cambridge.
    
    		Briggs & Briggs in Harvard Square
    
    		Sandy's Music between Central and Harvard on Mass. Ave.
    
    		Music Emporium on Mass. Ave. in Porter Square
    
    As far as the Clancy Brothers and Tommy Makem go, their early records
    on the Tradition label are some of the best.  Later on they got
    Judy Collinized and started adding a lot of orchestral backup crap.
    
    Liam and Tommy were by far the best voices and split off to do their
    own thing.                                              
67.5Greetings HollyCHOPIN::DARCYGeorge DarcyThu Sep 04 1986 19:547
    Some of my favorite singers include Mary Black (notably a Song for
    Ireland), the Clancy bros. and Tommy Makim, Eddie and sons (I can't
    remember his last name).
    
    George
    
    p.s. I was in Bundorran in June. :-)  There's a little golf course there
67.6Celtic Music.TSC01::MAILLARDFri Sep 05 1986 07:1714
    Re .0: Chieftains records: Chieftains 1 to Chieftains 10 plus one
    live recording called The Chieftains Live (how surprising!), the
    record of the sound track of the TV serie The Year of the French,
    and their last, The Chieftains in China , all (except, maybe, the
    live one and the last) from Claddagh Record. You can add many solo
    or duo albums by members of the group, and before they became the
    Chieftains, the records of Sean O'Riada and Ceoltori Cuallainn (sp?).
    For Scottish music my favorite groups are: The Clutha, Silly Wizard,
    Battlefield Band, The Corries, Ossian, The Whistleblinkies, Tannahill
    Weavers and The Boys of the Lough (half Irish halh Scottish). Among
    singers, I like Jeannie Robertson, her daughter Lizzie Higgins,
    Davy Stewart, and many others, I'll have a look in my records (among
    Scottish and Irish recording, I've about 400 disks and tapes).
    			Denis.
67.7A bit more modern perhaps ?GAOV08::MAGICConor Moran - GalwayFri Sep 05 1986 10:2315
Re .0 :
	Anything by Planxty comes highly recommended (Lots of excellent
	ballads with a few reels and jigs thrown in for good measure).
	When you say Irish music, do you only mean 'Hardcore' traditional
	or do you include modern traditional music as well ?. If so I
	suggest you look out for Stockton's Wing or Moving Hearts (to 
	mention but a few) who blend traditional sounds with modern music
	(It doesn't sound half as bad as some sceptics may think).

Re .1 : 
	I think the fact that you find Celtic music in "cheapo/deleted"
	sections may indicate something ??? My impression is that some
	'Traditional' music is more popular outside celtic countries than
	inside (doubtless there will be plenty of dissenters). Often this
	type of music is aimed more at the U.S. market than back home. 
67.8..There was a soldier , a Scottish Soldier..EAYV05::SHARPDrew Sharp - AYR Data Centre,ScotlandFri Sep 05 1986 11:1016
    Holly , sorry , it was all a bit of high jinks. I really will have
    to watch what I'm writing, I've just managed to set up a date when
    I'm in DEcville next week thru' "tongue in cheek replies" to that
    notesfile and although we're both joking it might be awkward to
    escape without losing face. enough of my problems.
    Yes That was the Andy Stewart that I was talking about (Campbellton
    Loch, och aye) , he presents a "brigadoon" image of Scotland. We
    certainly don't have any lost little glens with the sun glinting
    through the early morning mist onto the dew laden grass, for one
    thing I can't remember the last time I saw the sun, mmm, was it
    May or was it June , can't remember ?
    I must admit I do like the Corries, anyone heard "Flower of Scotland"?
    good stirring music, makes you feel like getting up and battering
    a few Englishmen.
    
    Drew
67.9Ye canny fling yer Granny af a bus...ECCGY4::DONNELLYJoe Donnelly ECC, MunichFri Sep 05 1986 14:0312
    Re.-1,
    	Hi Drew, how do you know Isabelle is joking ?
    
    	back to the original topic:-
    	I like most fiddle music though my record colection does not
    	reflect it.
    	I don't like the Clancy's, but do like the Chieftains,
    	Whistlebinkies (does Eddie Maguire play the flute/tin-whistle
    	with them ?), Ali Bain, Hamish Imlach, Planxty.
    	I also like some bagpipe music and the ocassional heedrum-howdrum
    	type of song.
    
67.10I like pipers ...ENGGSG::BURNSIt's a long way from Clare to hereFri Sep 05 1986 14:5116
    
    
    	Told at Houlihan's last night  ......
    
    	Q. What is the definition of a gentleman.
    
    	A. Any man who can play the bagpipes ....but doesn't
    
    	There will be a piper at Houlihan's during the 1/2 way to 
    	St. Paddy's Day Party on September 17th.
    
    	
    	keVin
    
    p.s. Welcome back George.
    
67.11PRINTED MUSIC - PARTIAL LISTMTV::HENDRICKSHolly HendricksFri Sep 05 1986 15:4892
FIDDLE AND PENNYWHISTLE TUNES  (the incomplete citations at the end were 
-----------------------------   gathered from other sources)

O'Neill's Music of Ireland
	1850 Melodies (Airs, Jigs, Reels, Hornpipes, Long Dances, Marches,etc.)
	ed. Capt. Francis O'Neill, arr. James O'Neill
		Rock Chapel Press (Div. of Shanachie Records)
		1 Hollywood Ave., Ho-Ho-Kus, NJ 07423
		c. 1979 (first published 1903)

Fiddler's Tune Book
Second Fiddler's Tune Book
	(Hornpipes, Reels, Schottisches, Polkas, Waltzes, Jigs)
	ed. Peter Kennedy
		Hargail Music Press, 28 W. 38th St., NYC, NY 10018
		c. 1954 English Folk Dance and Song Society


Kerr's Collections of Merry Melodies for the Violin
	Scotch Strathspeys and Reels, Highland Schottisches, Jigs, Hornpipes,
	Highland Airs and Marches, Country Dances, Waltzes, Polkas, etc.
		James S. Kerr, 65 Berkeley St., Glasgow, C.3.
		(also mentions on the back cover The Scottish Violinist
		 ed. J. Scott Skinner, Bayley & Ferguson, 65, Berkeley St.,
		 Glasgow, C.3.)
	I think the Kerr's Collection is a multi-volume paperback set of books.


The Fiddler's Fake Book
The Guitar Picker's Fake Book (essentially the same tunes in tablature)
	ed. David Brady
		Oak Publications
		distr. by Music Sales Corp., 24 E. 22nd St., NYC 10010
		Music Sales Limited, 78 Newman St., London, W1P LA
			about 500 tunes, about $17 each
                        excellent discography!

Songs and Dances of Scotland
Songs and Dances of Ireland
	arranged for recorder, flute and penny whistle by Liz Thomson
		Wise Publications, distr. by Music Sales Corp. (see above)
		c. 1982

The Penny Whistle Book
	by Robin Williamson
		Oak Publications (see above for distribution)
		c. 1977


Geraldine Cotter's Traditional Irish Tin Whistle Tutor
		Ossian Publications, 21 Iona Green, Cork, Ireland c. 1983
			includes recording 


The Roche Collection of Traditional Irish Music
	566 Irish Airs, Marches and Dance tunes
		Ossian Publications, 21 Iona Green, Cork, Ireland


Ceol Rince na hEireann, v.1
Ceol Rince na hEireann, v.2
	ed. Brendan Breathnach
		Government Printing Office, Arcade G.P.O. Dublin

The Dance Music of Willie Clancy
	ed. Pat Mitchell
		Mercier Press, Cork, Ireland

An Piobare, Nos. 1-34, 1971-8 in 1 vol. Ceol an Phiobaire
		Na Piobairi Uilleann, 15 Henrietta St., Dublin 1, Ireland
	

Music From Ireland, v. 1
	ed. Bulmer and Sharpely


Allan's Irish Fiddler
	ed. Hugh McDermott
		Glasgow:  Mozart Allen

Irish Traditional Fiddle Music
	ed. Perron and Miller
		New Hampshire:  Fiddle Case Books, 1974

Music and Song From the Boys of the Lough
	ed. Richardson, Bain, McConnell, Morton
		Edinburgh:  Gilderoy Music, 1977

English, Welsh, Scottish and Irish Fiddle Tunes
	ed. Robin Williamson
		New York, Oak Publications, 1976

67.12the Corries????VIKING::TARBETMargaret MairhiFri Sep 05 1986 16:3216
    Have the Corries put out more that 2 albums?  I own 1 (live concert
    in Edinburgh) and know of another (apparently not traditional music
    from what I could tell, I didn't therefore buy it).
    
    They do good work. <sigh>
    
    
    Oh, and I was relieved that it wasn't the SW Stewart you were thinking
    of, Drew...'course the earlier one wasn't all *that* bad, either;
    he sang (sings?...I heard him about 20 years ago) well and even
    his brigadoon-ish worst was pretty fair music-hall quality you'll
    have to admit.
    
    					=maggie
                 
    
67.13A FEW SONG BOOKSMTV::HENDRICKSHolly HendricksFri Sep 05 1986 16:4129
I also looked through my collection of song books, most of which were purchased 
in the Boston area.

Folksongs and Ballads Popular in Ireland v. 1 (green)
	"                                v. 2 (orange)
	"                                v. 3 (tan)
	ed. John Loesberg
 		Ossian Publications, 21 Iona Green, Cork c. 1980
			good notes on the songs, about $4 each
			about 50 songs per book

100 Irish Ballads with Words, Music and Guitar Chords
	Soodlum Music Co. Ltd. Dublin 12.
	published by Walton's Mnf Ltd, unit 26 IDA Centre, Pearse St., Dublin 2
	c. 1981
	       (a great book for newcomers to Irish music because it includes
		a cassette tape with the first verse of each of the 100 songs)

The Clancy Brothers and Tommy Makem Songbook
	Oak Publications, distr. by Music Sales Corp, 24 E. 22nd St. NYC 10010
		c. 1964

Songs and Dances of Ireland
Songs and Dances of Scotland
(Songs and Dances of England)
	arr. Liz Thomson
		Wise Publications c. 1982
		distr. Music Sales Corporation, 24 E. 22nd St., NYC
		or Music Sales Limited, 78 Newmann St., London W1P3LA
67.14"Hardcore" vs. "Modern" Traditional...MTV::HENDRICKSHolly HendricksFri Sep 05 1986 16:537
    re .7
    
    I am interested in both "hardcore" traditional music and "modern"
    traditional music.  It would help, though, if people could indicate
    which group a performer (or performers) falls into.  (If you know.)
    
       
67.15Selected RecordingsMTV::HENDRICKSHolly HendricksFri Sep 05 1986 17:5288
I went through the excellent record collection of a friend, and came up with 
the following information.

The Chieftains 9, "Boil the Breakfast Early", Columbia 
The Chieftains 8, Columbia Records
The Chieftains 7, Columbia Records, 1977
The Chieftains 5, Shanachie Records, 1981 (orig. recorded 1975)
The Chieftains 4, Shanachie Records, 1983 (orig. recorded 1972-74)
The Chieftains 3,                  , 1982 (orig. recorded 1971)
The Chieftains 2,                  , 1982 (orig. recorded 1969)
The Chieftains (1),                , 1982 

Most of the original Irish recordings seem to have been on Claddagh

+++++++++++++++++++++++

Seamus Ennis, 40 years of Irish Piping (double record set), Green Linnet, 1977

+++++++++++++++++++++++

Paddy Moloney and Sean Potts, Tin Whistles, Shanachie Records, 1983.

+++++++++++++++++++++++

The Dubliners, Seven Drunken Nights, Fiesta Records 1980 (FLPS 1675)
The Dubliners, More of the Hard Stuff, Fiesta Records       (FLPS 1654)
The Dubliners,                         Fiesta Records       (FLPS 1627)

+++++++++++++++++++++++

The Clancy Brothers and Tommy Makem, Tradition Records, (TLP 1042)
  CB&TM, In Concert, Columbia Records (CS 9494)
  CB&TM, Freedom's Sons, Columbia Records  (CS 9336)
  CB&TM, Isn't It Grand Boys, Columbia Records  (CS 9277)
  CB&TM, Recorded Live in Ireland, Columbia Records, (CS 9065)
  CB&TM, In Person at Carnegie Hall, Columbia Records, (CS 8750)
  CB&TM, Sing of the Sea, Columbia Records, (CS 9658)
  CB&TM, Home Boys Home, Columbia Records, (CS 9608)
  CB&TM, The First Hurrah, Columbia Records, (CS 8965)
  CB&TM, Hearty and Hellish, Columbia Records, (CS 8571)
  CB&TM, Spontaneous Performance Recording, (CS 8448)
  CB&TM, The Best of the Clancy Bros. & Tommy Makem, Tradition Records 5-2050
  CB&TM, Irish Songs of Rebellion, Tradition Records 2070
  CB&TM, The Boys Won't Leave the Girls Alone, Columbia Records, (CS 8709)
  The Clancy Brothers with Lou Killen, Greatest Hits, Vanguard VSD 53/54
        (2 record set)
  CB&TM and their families, Irish Folk Airs, Tradition Records 2083/Everest
  At Home with the Clancy Brothers and Tommy Makem and their families
        Tradition 2060



...not a complete list

++++++++++++++++++++++++++++

Scottish Pipe Band Music (City of Glasgow Police Pipe Band) Olympic Records
     /Everest   6145

Bagpipe Marches and Music of Scotland, Olympic Records/Everest 6118

Edinburgh Military Tatoos, Tradition 2109

+++++++++++++++++++++++++++++

Andy M. Stewart, By the Hush, Green Linnet SIF 3030

++++++++++++++++++++++++++++

(harp and some vocals)

Mary O'Hara's Scotland, Tradition 2121 (Everest)

Mary O'Hara at the Royal Festival Hall, Shanachie 5-2007

Songs of Ireland, Mary O'Hara, Tradition TLP 1024

++++++++++++++++++++++++++++

Heather and Glen, Tradition TLP 1047

Caledonia--the MacPherson singers and dancers of Scotland  Nonesuch HS72006

++++++++++++++++++++++++++++




67.16Corries, labels and Child.TSC01::MAILLARDMon Sep 08 1986 07:1921
    Re .12: Margaret, I have about a dozen of the Corries' albums and
    yet it isn't half of the number they released. Unfortunately, most
    of them are now out of stock, as they have been recording for about
    25 years now.
    Re .15: As for the labels I'm afraid most of those I could provide
    are European ones, not American ones. I'll definitely have a look
    in my records soon about that. BTW, I think that another Chieftains
    record was released after The Chieftains in China (which is absolutely
    fantastic and shows you what the meeting of Chinese and Irish
    traditional music can produce), it's also the sound track of a movie
    or a TV serie (don't remember the title), and they are also the
    performers of all the traditional Irish tunes in the sound track
    of 'Barry LINDON'.
    Also, about next topic (#68.), a very important source, although
    not only Celtic but also English, is the Child's collection of
    ballads from Great Britain. I've only four of the five volumes
    and the missing one (the second) is out of print. I'd be very
    grateful if someone could tell me how to get it, as I wrote to the
    publisher (Dover, N.Y.) and they answered me that there was no plan
    to republish it soon.
    			Denis.
67.17Keep Music Live!!!DOOZER::COOKZen and the art of Flute playingMon Sep 08 1986 12:0820
    Another vote here for Plantxy tunes which can vary from traditional
    to 'modern' (in the same tune!)
    
    Also don't forget Clannadh for excellent songs which I would rank
    as modern (but then I'm a dumb Englishman). Also have a listen to
    Matt Molloy if you like traditional flute, De Dannan (sp?) for a
    mixture of new and old that doesn't offend the palate, Christy Moore
    for bit of gutsy singing and of course the Brendan Voyage if you
    fancy an Uillean Pipes Concerto with full orchestra...
    
    I went to the Kennet Arms here in Reading last night and was impressed
    with the offering of LIVE traditional music. They seem to have two
    regular nights, Sunday and Monday. Musicians are welcome. (Didn't
    have the nerve to get my flute out though).
    
    Good luck, Celtic music is great but even better LIVE
    
    Brian
    
    PS Don't forget Alan Stivell a celtic (& french) harpist of talent. 
67.18A Personal Choice!EGAV01::FERRIELiam Ferrie - GalwayMon Sep 08 1986 13:0247
67.19Might've known *you'd* have them, Denis <grin>VIKING::TARBETMargaret MairhiMon Sep 08 1986 14:317
    <--(.16)
    
    What labels(s) did/do the Corries record for, Denis?  The one I
    have is on Fiesta, but that's no doubt a reprint and, unlike
    Shannachie, Fiesta don't seem to credit the original publishers.
    
    					=maggie
67.20Another TV show?SWSNOD::RPGDOCBrains clogged? Call Rent-A-WriterMon Sep 08 1986 16:559
    RE: .16  "Chieftans records"
    
    I beleive that was "Barry L_y_ndon" that the Chieftans did the
    soundtrack for.  The TV program was "The Year of the French".
    
    Does anyone know of a recording of theme and soundtrack music from
    the BBC (?) program, "The Irish R.M."?  There was some lovely mixing
    and counterpointing of English and Irish themes.  I can't remember
    who was credited with the music but it built on traditional tunes.
67.21TSC01::MAILLARDThu Sep 11 1986 12:0016
    Re .19: I'll have a look at it. Some of them are under the label
    Phonogram, but I can't recall the other label. BRAHMS has been
    unreachable for me during the last 3 days and I'm off tomorrow so
    I shan't reply before at least next Monday.
    Re .20: Beside the two sound track you mention there's also the
    sound track of a movie or TV program called (I think) "The Story
    of the horse" or something like that, released under Shanashie label.
    I like the Chieftains but I usually prefer a more traditional way
    of playing, they sound too classical for me. I also don't like much
    the way Paddy Moloney sometimes claims tunes to be of his composition
    when he's only adapted them (e.g., the Killala theme in The year
    of the French, noted to be from P. M. on the sleeve, when I've it
    on a record ten years older, referenced as traditional and called
    Maguire's kicks; I don't remember the name of the group at the moment
    but I can find it quickly).
    				Denis.
67.22Och, La'koot ya dinna fa' over yu tongueZEPPO::BANCROFTThu Sep 11 1986 19:367
    Weeel I like Aaaaandy Stewarrrrrrt.
    His rendition of the song about the lad wi' his kilt on in the
    big city (London) - amuses me so much I almost spill by brew.
    And you know how unusual that would be.  
    Another song of his i LIKE, is "The Scottish Soldier", I have been
    in the Bavarian Hills and the Highlands, and love them both.
    Phil Bancroft (a Yank, but 50% Scottish)
67.23TSC01::MAILLARDTue Sep 16 1986 09:5718
    Re .12, .19: I had a look at my Corries records: all the recent
    ones were released under the DARA label (it's a scottisch label,
    I don't know if there's an american company which releases them
    too). The references for the DARA records are: PA002, PA008, PA015,
    PA024, PA036, PA040 and PA055. Among the old ones some were released
    by EMI (MFP 50478, GLN 1005 and several others) and some by PHILIPS
    (PRICE 67 and many under the FONTANA label).
    Precision about .21: the example I gave was not the Killala theme
    but the French march in The Year Of The French, all the tunes of
    the record are said to be composed and arranged by Paddy Moloney,
    but this one, for example, can be found on a record of the group
    Crubeen, where it's called Maguires Kick and said to come from the
    O'Neil collection where it's a slip jig, but they play it as a slow
    air (and so does P. M.).
    BTW, my favourite Irish groups are De Danann, Planxty and the
    Dubliners. I also like very much Dolores Keane and Mary Bergin (whom
    I happen also to know a little).
    			Denis.      
67.24Connemara Rules...DOOZER::COOKZen and the art of Flute playingWed Sep 17 1986 12:467
    I've even bumped into the lady myself (Mary Bergin) she is/was living
    with/married to a guy by the name of Bruce Duve (Australian) who
    makes/repairs flutes and dabbles now, I believe, in acupuncture!
    I once made the mistake of going along to their pink house in Spiddal
    for a flute lesson - I forgot to take a hammer and nails with me.
    Without them it's impossible to get Bruce to stand still for more
    than 2 seconds (literally!) But it's the music that counts...
67.25TSC01::MAILLARDThu Sep 18 1986 10:2810
    The pink house is part of Lord Killanin estate in Spiddal and is
    a quiet and lovely place when Bruce isn't there. I think he made
    two big mistakes: first stopping making uilleann pipes when he was
    one of the best pipes maker in Ireland, and second leaving Mary
    who is one of the most lovable girl I know. I've been told that
    his acupuncture office in Galway is full of books with titles like
    Acupuncture In 20 Lessons, How to Learn Massage Quickly, etc...
    Not very reassuring for the customers. Last news I heard about him
    are now one year old, though.
    			Denis.
67.26Shell GuideMAHLER::DARCYGeorge DarcyThu Sep 18 1986 13:594
    Is that the Lord Killanin who wrote the Shell guide to Ireland?
    Great book, incidently.
    
    GD
67.27more musicCAD::DIPACEFri Sep 19 1986 04:568
Well, I prefer "folk" music, and one of my favorite alblums is
Clancy Bros and Tommy Makem with Pete Seeger.

I am looking forward to a WGBH radio show with Jean Redpath the end of this
month.

Alice

67.28TSC01::MAILLARDFri Sep 19 1986 06:494
    Re .26: I don't know, he's the one who was president of the
    International Olympic Commitee a few years ago, just before Avery
    Brundage (sp?).
    			Denis.
67.29Mary BlackTALLIS::DARCYGeorge DarcyMon Sep 22 1986 15:215
    Favorite Album		Label	Address
    --------------		-----	-------
    Mary Black Collected	Dara	56 Moore St. Dublin 1.

    Favorite Songs (Song for Ireland, Mo Ghile Mear, Both Sides the Tweed)
67.30VIKING::TARBETMargaret MairhiTue Sep 23 1986 16:5110
    Thanks, Denis...since you didn't mention any, I presume the jackets
    give no useful postal or telephone addresses.  I wonder if the consular
    office here would be helpful in that connection ....hmmmmmm.....
    
    Just for curiosity, you wouldn't happen to have collected anything by
    any of the other stalwarts from the 60s UK folk-club/coffeehouse scene,
    would you <grin>?  E.g., Nigel Denver, Rosemary & Hugh Genteman, Alex
    Campbell,... 
    
    					=maggie
67.31TSC01::MAILLARDWed Sep 24 1986 06:3110
    Re .30: That's correct, Maggie, there aren't any informations about
    locations on the sleeves. I myself would like to know where to contact
    the Corries or the DARA office as I'd very much like to know if
    they intend to publish a songbook one day. Any info?
    As for the other subject, the nearest thing I have is a cassette
    recording of a disk of a session at Sandy Bell's in Edinburgh in
    the early 70's. Also the name Alex Campbell rings a bell, I should
    check, but if I've something, it would be just one or two tracks
    on a collective record.
    			Denis.
67.32The last Chieftains record.TSC01::MAILLARDTue Oct 07 1986 07:225
    Re .6,.15,.20,.21,.23: I just bought the last Chieftains record.
    The title is "The ballad of the Irish horse", released under Shanashie
    label. It is the sound track of a TV serie, not what I would call
    outstanding, but a very good performance anyway.
    			Denis.
67.33RequestKAFSV3::LARKINI'm not as drunk as tinkle peepTue Dec 30 1986 14:4416
Would anybody out there know of any good albums of "Fiddle Music" by
    Frankie Gavin (solo) that might be available. Living in Canada,
    I have very little access to Irish Traditional Music, and so I find
    it difficult to find good albums. I would appreciate anyone in the
    Boston area letting me know, by Vax Mail, what is available and
    the total cost of Record, Postage and Packaging from there. 
    
    If there are any other good "Fiddle Tunes" available on record I
    would appreciate knowing about them.
    
    Thanks in advance,
    
    
    
    Gerry KAFSV3::LARKIN
    
67.34Music discussions ...ENGGSG::BURNSThere goes the Boston BurglarTue Dec 30 1986 15:2511
    
    
    	re: .33
    
    
    		You might have some luck posting your note in
    
    				ESPN::FOLK_MUSIC
    
    
    	keVin
67.35Green Linnet, ShanachieESPN::HENDRICKSHollyWed Dec 31 1986 13:5410
    re .33 
    
    Please do post it in ESPN::Folk_Music--the conference is full of
    Celtic music enthusiasts.
    
    You should try to get the Green Linnet catalog and the Shanachie
    catalog.  Let me know if you need the addresses (I think they are
    both in the Folk_Music conference, and I have them at home as well!)
    
    Holly
67.36another leadSSDEVO::YOUNGEROxygen starvation does strange things...Sun Jan 11 1987 20:403
    You could also try checking the latest Alcazar Records catalog...
    
    Elizabeth a-e
67.37SSVAX::OCONNELLIrish by NameFri Jan 23 1987 23:1715
    re: .20
    
    Someone may have answered this... The theme song (the Irish one
    at least) from "The Irish R.M." was "Haste to the Weeding", and
    the group that played it was DeDanann.  They were also the group
    who played on film in the big party scene.
    
    BTW, someone mentioned that they liked Seamus Kennedy, of the
    Beggarmen.  He is now living near Washington, D.C. and plays at
    most of the local clubs exclusively.  Never comes up this way anymore.
    Tom O'Carroll does play in this area.  Saw him down in Hyannis this
    summer.  They're very old friends -- some 14 years now.  My husband
    and I used to play on the same pub circuit in the early '70's with
    another guy named Tony O'Riordan.  Pleased to note we're playing
    a much better brand of music now.  
67.38Some fiddleSSVAX::OCONNELLIrish by NameFri Jan 23 1987 23:5774
67.39CorrectionSSVAX::OCONNELLIrish by NameSat Jan 24 1987 00:026
    re:  .37
    
    That was "Haste to the WEDDING".  My typing gets lousy when it gets
    cold out.
    
    Roxanne
67.40The CorriesWELMTS::MANNIONWed Feb 04 1987 12:024
    There is a note about the Corries in the Folk_music conference if
    anyone is still interested.
    
    Phillip
67.41CSCOA3::ARNETT_HUTTOYou want me to roll for WHAT!?Thu Nov 02 1989 09:4917
    My interest is not so much in bagpipes and whistles, but rather in
    ballads.  Not to say I have had my fill of bagpipes and all, but I have
    all the recordings I will likely need for a long while yet.  Any 
    suggestions as to groups/artists for ballads would be greatly appreciated. 
    
    	I used to listen to "Thistle & Shamrock" on public radio in the US,
    but unfortunately the local station stopped carrying the broadcast.  
    I would have brought monetary pressure to bear, but I can bearly give
    them an appreciable amount as it is :-).  
    
        On "Thistle & Shamrock" I heard the tail end of a song that I have
    been trying to find ever since.  The refrain went "come weal, come woe, 
    we'll gather and go, to live and to die for Charlie".  Can anyone tell
    me the name of this and what record/cassette/cd I might find it on?
    
    	George Arnett-Hutto
    
67.42PENUTS::KSULLIVANThu Nov 02 1989 12:055
    It sounds like a song by Silly Wizard from the "Glint of Silver"
    album (I think).  "....Charlie...." is in the title. Great song.
    I'll check the correct title tonight.
    
                       M.
67.43Charles J?????GAOV08::JDOOLEYThe Man they couldn't HangFri Nov 03 1989 07:1015
    Could be useful as an anthem for a certain Irish Political party.
    :)  :)
    
    
    			Charlie Who????????
    
    
    
    
    				Oh that one!!!!!!!
    
    
    
    
    
67.44Charlie by name and charlie by natureDUB01::BRENNAN_MDulce et Decorum estFri Nov 03 1989 07:3710
    It was!!!
    
    
    It didnt work!!!!
    
    Just like it didnt work for the other Charlie.
    
    Its name is "Arise and follow Charlie"
    
    			MBr
67.45Lady Nairne?.....TRIBES::CREANIs this a grenade?...BUTTERFINGERS!!!Fri Nov 03 1989 08:267
    I think the song in question was written by Lady Nairne,
    a Victorian Scottish writer of romantic verses, which
    often dealt with the Jacobite rising. She was a kind of
    Scots Thomas Moore, and like Moore had a very tragic
    personal life.
    
       John Crean.
67.46CSC32::MA_BAKERWed Nov 22 1989 15:091
    Sounds like Silly Wizzard "Wha'll Be the King but Charlie"
67.47GreentraxMAJORS::COCKBURNCraig CockburnWed Feb 26 1992 05:5827
I got a catalogue in the post from Greentrax recently and I thought it
might be of interest to people interested in all forms of Scottish/
Irish music.

Greentrax was originally set up as "Discount folk records", and is
now run by Ian D Green at:
Greentrax
3 Morven Street
Edinburgh
EH4 7LG,   Tel: 031 339 4567

They sell compact disks, cassettes, videos, music and song books. They're
selling off their LP stock cheap and will no longer stock LP's in future.

Greentrax ships anywhere, and as well as ditributing folk records from
other companies, they also have their own record label.

The catalogue is 15 A5 pages, and is 50p, although I was sent mine for
free. It lists about 40 different artists on each page and so is a 
pretty extensive list. The subjects included are: Scottish (various
shades of folk from the traditional through to Runrig and Mouth Music),
Scottish compilations/collections, Irish, Irish compilations/collections,
English, Welsh, North American and a small selection from various
other contries in the world. There's also videos, music and song books
ranging from The Battlefield band and Christy Moore to Burns songs in
Gaelic.
67.48CUPMK::AHERNDennis the MenaceSun Jul 05 1992 16:549
    If you're ever in Dublin and seeking a purveyor of traditional
    instruments, both new and used, as well as a collection of records and
    tapes and sheet music, try:
    
    		J. McNeill
    		140 Capel Street
    		Dublin, 1
    		Tel. 722159
    
67.49SYSTEM::COCKBURNCraig CockburnThu Sep 03 1992 18:021024
Thought this was worth sharing here....

Craig

 ------- Forwarded mail received on 29-Apr-1992 at 21:49:32 -------

From:	VBORMC::"jablin@nevada.edu" "DOUGLAS JABLIN"
To:	majors::cockburn



           Celtic Folk-Rock, Celtic Rock-Folk, and Celtic Pop

                      Compiled by Doug Jablin


                             Introduction

	As a way of familiarizing myself with celtic folk-rock I posted a
question on the net asking about bands in the genre. From there I just
continued until I got to this point. I've got a problem with going
overboard with my projects. Very little of this is original, I ripped off
just about everything and didn't always give credit, for this I
apologize. 
	This is an information resource.
	What I'd like to do at this point is have the information come to me
as opposed to me come to it. Anyone who has any information or
suggestions that they wish for me to compile into the work can e-mail me,
and I will put it in.
	Feel free to pass it on or do with it as you may.

                           Doug Jablin
                                                         April 27, 1992



Alba: British folk band considered to have risen and failed by 1979. Dave
Weide thinks they might be pretty bluegrass.

Albion: (in many incarnations descendants of Fairport etc). These albums
are VERY English, with a heavy influence from Morris Dancing tunes. Well
worth a listen, especially if you like accordion playing. Lots of ex and
future Fairporters were in this band at one time. Emphasis is on English
country dance tunes. The early ones, now reissued in the US on Carthage
are the best, but even their latest (from 1989) has some gorgeous
moments. Only three of their albums saw official US release. "Morris On",
"Son of Morris On", "Compleat Dancing Master"---These are basically
Albion side projects. "Son" is out of print in the US, but Carthage has
reissued the others.
	New Sounds says: This is the work of Ashley Hutchings. All of the
Albion discs deal with British folk dances in rocking arrangements.
Ancient instruments often join the electric guitars, bass and drums, and
the Albion Band albums include a number of vocals as well. The best are
"The Prospect Before Us" and "Under the Rose." "The Prospect Before Us"
is a strong series of dances that will appeal to both folk and rock fans;
"Under the Rose" sounds like middle period Fairport Convention with its
easily melodic folk-rock tunes.
	Latest Material: Following close on the heels of two cassette
releases in August comes "Sway With Me" by Judy Dunlop & Ashley Hutchings
featuring all Albion people you can thing of (new and old) plus Ric
Sanders, Dave Swarbrick, Martin Carthy, Dave Burland, Andrew Cronshaw
etc. It's over an hour long, CS/CD only.  Albino 07, Nov 1991. Many of
the songs were specially commissioned by outside writers for this album

                 The Albion Discography

Albion Band: Under the Rose, A Christmas Present, Rise up Like the
             Sun, and Light Shining.
Albion Country Band: Battle in the Field. No Roses.
Albion Dance Band: The Prospect Before Us and Shuffle Off.  
Ashley Hutchings Projects. In particular, some notable albums were:
             Morris On, Son of Morris On, The Compleat Dancing
             Master, 

Ar Log: Net Response: The only non-harp Welsh group I know of is called
Ar Log. (Apparently the name means "for hire" or something like that;
they were going to call themselves the Welsh equivalent of
"Rent-A-Musician" but it turned out to be so long in Welsh that it
wouldn't fit on an album cover.)  I believe they have at least three
records out. They use a lot of fiddle, whistles or recorders, guitars,
that sort of thing, and do decent vocals. I can't say how traditional
their sound is, but it strikes me as having a traditional feel, for what
that's worth; I quite like them. 
	Next Response: Ar Log are the best known Welsh folk group. They are
a five-man band with a wide variety of instruments and a very accessible,
mainstream-Celtic sound. I think their latest album AR LOG V is their
best, and AR LOG IV second, but most of their albums are strong. They
have six records:
            AR LOG
            AR LOG II
            AR LOG III
            Meillionen [all dance tunes]
            Rhwng Hwyl a Thaith, with Dafydd Iwan [see below]
            AR LOG IV (Pedwar)
            AR LOG V
	There is a new CD out combining IV and V, very highly recommended!
Most of these come with lyric sheets in Welsh and English, on the record
and CD versions at least. See Welch Folk Music.

Steve Ashley: Founding member of the Albions, he never recorded with
them. His first release, "Stroll On" is very Albionish, and does feature
the original Albions on one track, 'Lord Franklin.' His follow up found
him sounding more like Nick Drake, even using Richard Kirby (who did the
string charts for Drake's LP's) as arranger. Both are out of print.

Battlefield Band:  "Anthem to the Common Man" is a classic of folk rock. 
	The Press Release for New Spring reveals: They have mixed old songs
and tunes with new original material. Combining ancient and modern
instruments (Highland bagpipes, fiddle, keyboards, synthesizer, guitar,
accordion, whistles, and flutes) Battlefield Band pays homage to the
roots of Scottish music while keenly exploring new routes. The band has
also led others on the same journey.
	Concert Review: A friend and I saw the Battlefield Band Wednesday
night in Denver. Since I got the first word that they were coming from
the net, thought a review here would be in order. It was a really good
show. I haven't had the chance to see them before (they were last here 3
years ago) so I can't make any comparisons with anything but their first
album, but I was really impressed by those changes.  (I do miss the small
pipes, though.)
	Two of the four members are new--Iain MacDonald (highland pipes,
flute, and whistle) and John McCusker (fiddle, whistle, cittern,
accordion and keyboards). The previous members that are back are Alan
Reid (keyboards, vocals) and Alistair Russell (guitar, vocals).
	All the members of the band are good, but I'd recommend the show
just on the strength of McCusker. He's 18, and a wonderful fiddler (his
main instrument, but he played the others well, too.)  He's also
obviously quite comfortable on stage for one so young, and writes his own
tunes. (I wonder how he's feeling not being able to drink on this tour; 
he *looks* 16--I'd card him in a minute.) Reid integrates the keyboards
in very nicely with the traditional instruments, and both Reid and
Russell produce good lead vocals. MacDonald's main strength is his
piping, but the flute and whistle were well done too. Quite of bit of the
program consisted of their own songs.
	I'd really recommend that you catch them if they haven't been
near yet. It was a fun, high-powered show. They played a lot of things
from their new album. And they closed with "6 Days on the Road," which
included some country bagpipes. Good fun.

Pierre Bensusan: The great Algerian guitarist/singer.
	Reviewing the following albums: the eponymous "Pierre Bensusan" - 
early, straightish folky stuff. "Le Roi Renuad" has interesting
sax/guitar drone arrangements. "Musiques" - this is brilliant - a bit
Nick Drake/John Martyn/Stephen Fearing/occasionally even Martin
Simpson-ish, but lighter, with wordless singing - some great irish tunes.
Pres de Paris - a pleasant but not stunning album. "Solilai" - slightly
over produced, but with some good flute/guitar duet work (Blomdido Bad de
Grasse/Gladd de Brasse from Gong days!!) the Virgin Megastore 3090 had
the following in its database: "Great Acoustics" on a very small US label
(I forget which) - 3 months ago they had no record of "Spices." 
	Concert Review. Pierre is back on tour after what looks to have
been a long gap. I saw him in Edinburgh about a year ago and then in
Glasgow perhaps 3 months ago. I don't think he can have produced
anything since "Sola\"i," since the three records he's selling are "Early
Pierre Bensusan" (a compilation of "Pr\`es de Paris/Reels" and "Pierre
Bensusan 2"), "Musiques" and "Sola\"i". His live act is very interesting.
He used to play traditional music, mostly but not exclusively in DADGAD,
but on "Sola\"i" he moved more towards complex original compositions.
This trend has continued further. He now plays the whole set in DADGAD
and carries a very large box of tricks with him, with about fifteen
pedals. The box is capable of recording long passages (minutes) and then
playing them back immediately. (I presume it's all digital.) So he tends
to begin by playing a backing passage (which is quite interesting enough
to function as a piece in its own right) and then adds several layers on
top of it before switching some out and starting to add new ones. (If
anyone knows what the box is, The really interesting part is that he is
superbly musical and highly innovative. If you get a chance to see him,
I'd recommend it.

Dan Ar Bras: New Sounds Says: A brilliant guitarist and a gifted
composer. Played with Alan Stivell, Malicorne, and Fairport Convention,
but despite his long association with folk revival, his albums mostly
contain original works, drawing on his Celtic heritage and often dealing
with culture and mythology of his native Brittany. His first album is a
musical depiction of the legendary city Ys. Ar Bras plays both acoustic
and electric guitars, and is joined by synthesizer, piano, bass,
percussion, uilleann pipes, flute, and vielle (a Renaissance string
instrument).

Blowzabella: Very dance-oriented, very early-instrument oriented. Lots of
pipes and hurdy-gurdy noises. I like their Plant Life CD, "A Richer
Dust"; I didn't like their earlier Plant Life LP's. "Pingha Frenzy" is
worth having, even if sadly short for a CD (that's to say, it's normal LP
length). So is the earlier Blowzabella "Wall of Sound" (!), and their
really latest, "Vanilla" (Special Delivery/Topic SPDCD 1028). "Vanilla",
however, is quite, quite, stunning. And if you prefer your hurdy-gurdies
without saxophones and electric bass (and with more than perfunctory
sleeve notes), there's "The Music of the Hurdy-Gurdy" by Blowzabella's
Nigel Eaton and friends on Saydisc CD-SDL 374. HMT.
	The UK magazine Folk Roots reported recently that Blowzabella would
disband around the end of this year; they were doing a final tour but I
don't think they plan to visit North America. I was surprised, given the
success that "A Richer Dust" and "Vanilla" achieved. But I imagine that
the economics are against large folk bands, especially in England, which
is a much smaller market.
	Nigel Eaton, the Blowzabella hurdy-gurdy specialist, has two
related CD's which may be of interest: (1) Nigel Eaton, "The Art of the
Hurdy Gurdy", with Cliff Stapleton, Ian Luff and Paul James from
Blowzabella -- a mix of traditional and original material, with an
11-minute track from Vivaldi. On Saydisc, not too hard to find in the
US. (2) "Ancient Beatbox", an attempt by Eaton and James to take the
hurdy gurdy onto the pop dance floor, with decidedly mixed results. Lots
of synthetic percussion; Sheila Chandra sings on one track. Jo
Freya/Fraser is working with a bunch of fellow female musicians from
around the country as The Token Women, and Andy Cutting has been touring
the clubs with Chris Wood (fiddle player/guitarist/singer). 
 
                   The Blowzabella Discography
         
PLR 038 (LP) Blowzabella                                  
PLR 051 (LP) In Colour
PLR 063 (LP) Tam Lin (w/ Frankie Armstrong & Brian Pearson)
PLR 063 (LP) Bobbityshooty
PLR 074 (LP) The Blowzabella Wall of Sound
PLR 080 (LP, CD) A Richer Dust
SIF 3050 (C, CD) Vanilla
 "Pingha Frenzy" (live in Brazil, I believe)
 "The B-A of Blowzabella" (unsure of exact title)
Books: The Blowzabella Tune and Dance Book (I don't know if this is a
reissue,  revision, or companion to the "Encyclopedia Blowzabellica",
which I don't see in the catalog.)

Boiled in Lead: Boiled in Lead hails from Minneapolis. They are a mix of
traditional folk and rock with touches of a variety of eclectic cultural
influences. With all the variety, they manage to form a cohesive whole -
as opposed to just a random sampling of neat sounds and diverse stuff.
	Electro-celtic as a genre has been around for a long time. What
makes Boiled in Lead different from other electro-celtic bands is that
they don't just fuse Celtic music with rock instrumentation, but they
bring in an enormous palette of other musical styles and sensibilities as
well. Am I wrong in saying that Boiled in Lead is where electro-celtic
enters the World Beat trend?

So far, the rockin' celtidelic people from Minneapolis have released four
albums:

The Man Who Was Boiled in Lead, Atomic Theory Records 1984
Hotheads, Atomic Theory Records 1986
From the Ladle to the Grave, Flying Fish Records 1989
Orb, Flying Fish Records 1990
Old Lead (containing BiL, Hotheads and 2 extra tracks-75 minutes of
               music) is out. The CD is $12.00, plus and 2 extra
               tracks-75 minutes of music) is out. The CD is $12.00, plus
               1.00 for postage, snail, $2.00 via UPS. MN residents add
               7% tax.
The cassette-only release was titled A&E_ (Alarums and Excursions?  Arts
and Entertainment?), subtitled LIVE AND DEMO  RECORDINGS 1987 (Crack
005c). Some of the songs appear (in different recordings) on "From the
Ladle to the Grave" and one appears on "Hotheads". The song list is as
follows:

	Side A[coustic]:           Side E[lectric]:

	Mick McGuire               Pinch of Snuff
	Step It Out Mary           Spanish Lady
	O Ya                       Dilley Delaney's & Cherish the Ladies
	House-Husband's Lament     My Son John
	Tourdion & LaRotta

To be put on their mailing list, send a postcard to: Boiled in Lead,
Postbox 7514, Minneapolis, Minnesota, 55407.

Billy Bragg: Londoner Bragg began his musical career as Billy Bonkers
fifteen years ago - having quit school at the age of sixteen - in a punk
group called Riff Raff. Current right hand man Wiggy was also a member.
In the spring of 1978, indie label Chiswick issued the band's "I Wanna Be
A Cosmonaut" EP. A decade later, Billy and Wiggy had the pleasure of
resurrected the title cut for a Muscovite audience, as documented in the
video feature "Mr Bragg Goes To Moscow" released late last year.
Following the dissolution of Riff Raff, Bragg kept a low musical profile
for several years, during which time he even tried the time honored
working class route of joining the British Army. Emerging in 1983 as a
lone troubadour with a message and an abrasive electric guitar, a demo
tape of seven startlingly fresh and uncluttered songs was put out as the
"Life's A Riot With Spy v. Spy" mini album. One song, "A New England",
was later a sizable UK hit for Kirsty MacColl. He survived being dubbed
the "Brightest Hope For 1984" by the ever fickle music press, chiefly
because his style wasn't commercial enough for the mainstream in the
first place. Late that year a full length album "Brewing Up With Billy
Bragg" appeared on Go! Discs (his UK label to this day), etc. 
	If you like your folk music with a lot of bite, politically
speaking, then you will want to go out and buy Billy Bragg albums. The
Internationale (released in the US sometime around August of 1990). is a
short album (less than 25 min.), but it is a powerful one none the less.
On it he updates "The Internationale" and restores some socialist anthems
to their original glory. Other Billy Bragg albums have political songs on
them interspersed with love songs and stuff like that, but this is pure
politics from the socialist angle. It is also a lesson in old union
songs, for those who are history buffs. He even gives you background on
the songs in the liner notes. As for live shows, if at all possible don't
see him in the US. Unless you're so into the politics that you don't mind
hearing 5 minutes of lecturing for every 10 of music. "Waiting For The
Great Leap Forwards," is a video that is "hilarious"...and very
political. There is a videotape with two 50-minute films he did on tour:
"Mr. Bragg Goes To Moscow" and "Which Side Are You On", which is about
unions in the USA.

		  	  BILLY BRAGG DISCOGRAPHY

		compiled by Colm Mulcahy, updated April 1991

THE PEEL SESSIONS                 Strange Fruit SFPS-????, Jun 1987 
LIFE'S A RIOT WITH SPY v. SPY     Utility Records UTIL 1, July 1983
BREWING UP WITH BILLY BRAGG       Go! Discs AGOLP4, Oct 1984
BETWEEN THE WARS 7"		         Go! Discs, AGOEP1, Feb 1985
DAYS LIKE THESE 7" EP             Go! Discs GOD 8,  Dec 1985
DAYS LIKE THESE 12" EP            Go! Discs GOD X8,  Dec 1985
LEVI STUBBS' TEARS 7" EP          Go! Discs GOD 12?, June 1986
LEVI STUBBS' TEARS 12"            Go! Discs, GOD 12X, June 1986
THE GREETINGS TO THE NEW          Go! Discs GOD X15, 1986 
    BRUNETTE
TALKING WITH THE TAX MAN ABOUT    Go! Discs ????, Sept 1986
    POETRY		
6 TRACK MINERS BENEFIT EP         Wake Up WOMBLE 1, spring 1987
SGT. PEPPER KNEW MY FATHER        New Music Express, NME PEP  
                                     LP-100,  1988
HELP SAVE THE YOUTH OF AMERICA    Electra 9 60787-1, < May 1988
WAITING FOR THE GREAT LEAP 7" EP  Go! Discs GOD 23, 1988
    FORWARD    
WORKERS PLAYTIME                  Go! Discs GO???, Oct?? 1988
SHE'S GOT A NEW SPELL		    Go! Discs ???, ?? 1988
THE INTERNATIONALE                Utility Records UTIL 11 (in), 
                                      < May 1990
Brass Monkey: (more folkish) Early 80's. Traditional Rock, mixing
Fairport with the Who (DW).

the Bushwhackers: (quite celtic). Australia.

Cappercaillie:	Impressive; as good as the early Runrig stuff. Karen
Matheson, the lead singer, has one of the most beautiful voices I've
heard in a long time. And unlike Runrig now, they have more than two
Gaelic tracks on each album, and don't sound too commercial either. Some
traditional waulking songs and a lot of fast ceilidh type music in
"Sidewaulk" and "Crosswinds". I think they have three albums out, the
third being "The Blood is Strong" from a TV series about the Celts? shown
in Scotland.  
	I had the pleasure of seeing these folks this past spring on their
North American tour (Waulking Across North America). absolutely wonderful
performance! plus, they melted my heart by playing 'Lagan Love' which is
one of my old time favorites. Just as a side note, Mark Dury (I think
that's his name) who plays bodran and woodwinds for them has appeared on
the Billy Bragg release "The Internationale" (which also features Dick
Gaughan singing 'The Red Flag')

Cariad Cywr: I also have a tape I dubbed from a friend who has since
gone back to Wales. The group is Cariad Cywr (I think; I don't have it on
hand). They are, I guess, pop-folk, but I enjoy the tape. I'd like to
find more by them, too.

Clannad: Rolling Stone Record Guide says, An Irish traditional group that
sticks close to the older arrangements and performances of the music. The
average listener would find them more difficult to listen to than a
DeDanann or Bothy Band, as their rhythms are understated and all singing
is in Gaelic.

                Partial Clannad Discography 

   Clannad Two, Dulaman, Clannad in Concert, Crann Ull.

Contraband: There was another Scottish band around the same time as Five
Hand Reel, and I think they were called Contraband (?). Mae Mackenna
(SP?) was the lead vocalist, and the band was very strong instrumentally.

Cordelia's Dad: folk-punk from Amherst Mass. Their debut album,
Cordelia's Dad" on Okra/Rough Trade records is currently in the stores
and making some noise on the college charts. If the Ramones played
traditional music, it might sound like this.

Cropdusters: Classed under folk-punk. Thrash-punk.

Dando Shaft: (with Martin Jenkins of Whippersnapper), Gordon Giltrap (in
vein of Nick Drake).

De Dannan: Rolling Stone Record Guide says, The best band of the second
wave of Irish traditional music.
            
                     De Dannan Discography

 De Danannan               75 Boot
 The Mist-Covered Mountain 80 Shan
 Selected Jigs and Reels   80 Shan
 The Star-Spangled Molly   81 Shan

Sandy Denny: New Sounds says, Sandy Denny was a member of Fairport
Convention, the landmark late Sixties British group that combined
elements of traditional English music with rock instrumentations. Denny's
strong singing has its roots in plain-song, and Fairport Convention's
stolid, dirge-like march beat is derived from the music of the Church of
England. Denny's solo albums feature Richard Thompson. Denny died in 1978
after a tragic fall down a flight of stairs. Albums: "Sandy" and "Who
Knows Where the Time Goes".


                      Sandy Denny Covers 
                       Compiled by Colm

AR BRAZ, DAN:Rising For The Moon (SD):Songs:  
					:90/05:90/10:Keltia:KM14-M312:
BLACK, MARY:By The Time It Gets Dark (SD):By The Time It Gets Dark:
					:87/sm:88/04:Dara:DARA-027
COLLINS, JUDY:Who Knows Where The Time Goes 4.20 (SD):Both Sides Now:7"B
					:68/<11:68/  :Elektra:EK-45639:Colors Of The Day
                          LP EKS-75030 72/05
COLLINS, JUDY:Who Knows Where The Time Goes 4.20 (SD):Who Knows Where The
             Time Goes:LP:68/  :68/11:Elektra:EKS-74033
COVINGTON, JULIE:By The Time It Gets Dark 2.45 (SD**):Julie Covington:LP
					:78/0?:78/10::Virgin:V2107:
COWSILL, SUSAN & ERIC JOHNSON:At The End Of The Day (SD):True Voices:comp
                       LP:     :90/06:Demon:FIEND 165:
DRANSFIELD, BARRY:Who Knows Where The Time Goes (SD):Bowin' And          
                  Scrapin':LP
					:  :78/  :Topic:12TS-386:instrumental
FAIRPORT CONVENTION:Sandy's Song [Take Away The Load] (SD):Gottle        
  O'Geer:LP:76/  :Island:ILPS-9389:
HARRIS, EMMYLOU:Like An Old Fashioned Waltz (SD):White Shoes:LP:
					:     :83/10uk:Warner B.:?23961
KJELLMAN, CARIN:Vintervindar (SD):Carin Kjellman:LP:
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Disappear Fear: Folk-Rock from Baltimore. Concert Review: I saw them
last night in San Francisco. There weren't many people there to see
them, but there should have been. I had arrived quite tired at 9:30 pm,
and at 1:30am I was full of energy. I'd say that their lyrics could still
use a little work; they're somewhat repetitive. The sound was not done
very well; the singers spoke to the person doing the sound a couple of
times and he didn't do anything about it. Anyway, the group is two
sisters from Baltimore who sing together; one of them plays guitar. I
understand they worked alone at first and sounded very folk, but they
have a bass player and a drummer now, and they're somewhere between folk
and rock. If you see they're playing somewhere near you, go see them...it
won't cost much, and they're very enjoyable. They were selling a tape and
a CD (and they have another tape which they didn't have there) which I
bought without hesitation, and I left the place (after they played for
two hours) feeling like dancing.

Nick Drake: He died quite a few years ago, and only has 4 albums worth of
material (all available in the Fruit Tree boxed set from Hannibal), but
all that hear him agree that he was an important voice in the folk-rock
movement. More of the singer-songwriter sort of thing than the "trad.
arr" sort of thing, but with backing musicians from Fairport (Peggy, Dick
Thompson and Dave Mattacks), John Cale, Danny Thompson and others and Joe
Boyd and John Wood at the helm, and the fact that he was "discovered" by
Ashley Hutchings, his folk-rock pedigree is quite good. He wrote some
very good songs in a jazzy-folksy vein and had a breathy, very
English-sounding voice. "Bryster Layter," and "Five Leaves Left," are
both given 4 stars by the Rolling Stone Record Guide. 
	Anonymous Response: Nick Drake is an artist I like very much. I
agree with the problem of syrupy strings behind Drake, they start to get
to me as well. The other problem I have is that Drake has a way of
depressing you or making you melancholy that not even Leonard Cohen or
Joni Mitchell can touch. Just when you think the next song could lighten
up, he invariably plows you even deeper into the ground. Drake is too
much of a downer to listen to at length. I've heard it said that John
Martyn's "Solid Air" is about Drake's drug demise, they were certainly
buddies (witness share of accompanying musicians too). Check out Stephen
Fearing who is a bit slick, but very fine, and has the distinct advantage
of being alive...

The English Country Blues Band/Tiger Moth: The ECBB attempted to cross
American blues with English material. I find both of the ECBB albums
charming; "No Rules" (reportedly out of print, on Dingles Records) was
mostly acoustic, Home and Deranged was quite electric. But I've heard
some American blues fans say those albums are pretty lame. After H&D the
band switched to playing only English dance material and emerged as Tiger
Moth. The Tiger Moth album I loved; highly recommended to anyone who's
enjoyed the Albion Dance Band. Howling Moth (the last album, the only CD)
left me cold; the spirit seemed to have evaporated. Now defunct; the
second ECBB album and the two Tiger Moth albums remain available from the
UK label Rogue.

Fairport Convention: "The" Celtic Folk-Rock band. The modernizers of the
folk tradition. They came from London's Muswell Hill, had just left
school in 1967, and could be heard at weddings and youth clubs playing
"the usual sort of juggy band thing with one amplifier between three
guitars and half a drum kit. "It was," Simon Nicol recalls, "a nice
summer, and Tyger had left home and moved into a flat in the house where
I lived and was born. It was called 'Fairport'..."
	The original line-up was Judy Dyble (a local librarian) and Ian
MacDonald (vocals); Richard Thompson (who also had a job making stained
glass windows) and Simon Nicol (who was cinema projectionist at the
"Highgate Odeous") on guitars; Ashley "Tyger" Hutchings (bass) and Martin
Lamble (percussion). In this form they made their major London stage
debut at the Saville Theater on one of the late Brian Epstein's famous
Sunday concerts.
	The band became worried by Judy Dyble, who during her short time
with the band she managed to make a noticeable impression, particularly
through her on stage habit of knitting socks and scarves when not
actually singing! They augmented her with a sixth member Ian MacDonald.
He had an "experienced pop background" (which had once played in a band
called the Pyramids), and a good voice. Judy Dyble finally left, after
appearing on the first Fairport album. The band carried on as a five-
piece, but audiences were unhappy. Fairport had acquired something of a
Jefferson airplane image for having a girl singer up front, and a new
girl was needed.
	Sandy Denny joined the band in 1968. She had joined the Strawbs for
a short time, and was well known in the folk circuit playing Dylan,
Scottish, American and Irish folksongs. She wasn't immediately impressed
with her new band. "I listened to their first album and thought it was
terrible", she says, "but thought I'd see what happened". The rest was
history.
	After Sandy joined the band they started experimenting with folk
rock. The first example of this was 'Nottamun Town' and 'She Moves
Through the Fair'. The experimentation continued on "Unhalfbricking" the
bands third album. In 1969 Ian MacDonald (who changed his name to Ian
Matthews) left to form "Matthews' Southern Comfort." 
	Tragically, just before "Unhalfbricking", a tragic accident
occurred. Several of the Fairports were travelling back to London after a
concert when their van crashed on the M1. Martin Lamble, the drummer, was
killed, and others were badly shaken. Almost as a therapy to recover from
the crash, the Fairports threw themselves into the next project, a
complete folk-rock album. Before work on it started, a couple of new
members joined the band: a drummer, Dave Mattacks, coming in from the
dance combos, and the folk instrumentalist hero himself, Dave Swarbrick.
	Swarbrick's move caused a mild sensation. Here was a leading member
of the folk establishment, with a history of playing first with Ian
Campbell and then with Martin Carthy, suddenly giving it all up to join a
rock band. And why did the wily-looking man with the disarming grin do
it? Because he liked the amplified music, and had thought long and hard
about what was going wrong on the folk scene.
	"Liege and Lief" is the quintessential Fairport album, and indeed
the album that pretty much defined the folk-rock genre. Some folk-rock
fans even maintain that the band did little else of much note. Tyger left
the band in 1970 to form Steeleye Span and was replaced by Dave Pegg. His
departure was shortly followed by Sandy Denny who formed Fotheringay with
her husband Trevor Lucas. The two departures were a shock, but the band
kept going. A new bass player Dave Pegg, came in from the Ian Campbell
Folk Group, and soon looked like a veteran rocker. The new five piece
produced yet another excellent Fairport album, "Full House" (1970),
though it showed a slight move away from folk rock.
	After their manager Joe Boyd quit to take a prestige job on the
American West Coast, Richard Thompson decided to leave. This line-up
recorded "Angel Delight," then came "Babbacombe Lee," the first folk
rock opera. The final remaining original member Simon Nicol finally left
in 1973, to join the Albion Country Band. A new guitarist joined, Roger
Hill, for a few months before being replaced by Jerry Donaghue and
Trevor Lucas. Drummer Dave Mattacks also disappeared to the Albions, then
came back. The Donaghue-Mattacks-Lucas-Pegg-Swarbrick line-up then
actually managed to stay together for some time. They made a dreadful
album, "Rosie", an excursion by Swarbrick into writing pop drivel. Then,
in 1973, when all but their most stubborn fans must have given them up,
they brought out "Fairport Nine," which showed them to be back in the up
again. The folk numbers on the albums's first side had all the old verve
and enthusiasm--with Swarbrick's concepts of "dramatic story telling"
coming through well on 'Polly on the Shore'. The new songs ont he second
side showed how Trevor Lucas, in particular, had improved as a writer.
	A Net Response: "The Five Seasons" is quite good, and in many
people's opinion better than recent albums such as "Expletive Delighted"
and "Red and Gold". The material is the same combination of trad medleys,
acoustic ballads and Thompson-esque MOR rock ballads.  More use of
songwriters like Dave Wheatstone and less in-house writing. All-in-all
quite fun without breaking new ground; and excellent musicianship.

                Fairport Discography
Heyday               Hannibal         1968/1987
Fairport Convention  A&M              1969
Unhalfbricking       A&M              1969
Liege and Lief       A&M              1970
Full House           A&M              1970
House Full           Island/Hannibal   76/86
Angel Delight        A&M              
Babbacombe Lee       A&M 
Rosie                A&M              1973
Nine                 A&M              1974
A Moveable Feast     Island           1974
Gottle O' Geer       Island           1976
Fairport Chronicles  A&M              1976
Expletive Delighted  Varrick/Rounder  1986
In Realtime Live                      1987
Red and Black

Five Hand Reel: An early project of Dick Gaughan's, a very electric
Scots group. Long defunct, alas. Started out in 1979 but hadn't broken
through. These guys qualify as "next best thing to Steeleye Span" among
the groups I've actually heard (which, being the poor Yank that I am, is
liable to be not that many). The album "For A' That" is superb, with the
best cuts being the title tune, 'Carrickfergus', 'Haughs o' Cromdale',
'Aye Fond Kiss', and 'P stands for Paddy'. "Ive Hand Reel" and "For A'"
That, sometimes turn up used on the east coast, and were reissued
recently (on Black Crow?) in the UK.

Fotheringay: Sandy Denny's post-Fairport band. The lineup was Trevor
Lucas, Jerry Donahue, Gerry Conway and Pat Donaldson, all of whom went on
to various Fairport and Richard Thompson lineups. This band is not as
loose as Fairport, the arrangements are detailed and quite beautiful.
Carthage recently reissued this in the US.

Bob Geldof: Solo album, "The Vegetarians of Love" has some celtic
moments.

Davey Graham: From the Unremembered Folk Book: Long before anyone else
was thinking of mixing styles or inventing "folk-rock," Graham was
playing the most extraordinary fusions. He stuck to acoustic guitar and
with that instrument alone he broke down the barriers. He started mixing
blues with eastern styles, and jazz and folk. His record "> A.D.," made
with Alexis Korner in 1961, went unnoticed by the general public because
it was so advanced. Korner helped bring together the Rolling Stones and
who played "da blooz" with Mick Jagger, Jack Bruce, Ginger Baker, and
many others destined for stardom. It disappeared without a trace, but was
considered a prime example of folk-blues. Two later albums, "Folk, Blues
and Beyond" and "Folk Roots, New Roots" (both released in 1965) were
rather like delayed time bombs; their initial impact was not enormous
but the long-term effect was devastating.
	Graham became one folk music's great practical academics because he
lived out the experiments that he played. He could talk of the similarity
between an air and a raga, and elaborate on his theories of gypsy
migration and its effects on Irish and Hindustani music, because he has
made those journeys himself. He was born in England in 1940. His father
was a Scottish Gaelic teacher, and his mother was from Georgetown,
Guyana. While at school he was partially blinded in his right eye. As
soon as he left he became an itinerant musician, first playing around
Europe, then North Africa.
	The "Folk, Blues and Beyond" album, which consists of Davey singing
and playing solo guitar, backed by an unnamed bass player and drummer,
sums up his catholic influences and the way in which he put them
together. The first track starts with a wailing Indian sounding theme
that gradually turns into a spirited version of Leadbelly's 'Leavin'
Blues'. It's followed by an elaborate, bluesy accompaniment to an English
song 'Seven Gypsies' (the beginning of a style that was to be known as
"folk baroque"), and instrumental from Morocco, versions of contemporary
songs by Cyril Tawney and Bob Dylan, and even excursions into jazz--Bobby
Timmons' 'Moanin' and Charlie Mingus' 'Better Git It In Your Soul.'
	The next album, "Folk Roots, New Routes," broke even more ground.
This time Graham didn't sing, but his guitar accompanied one of Britain's
best known traditional singers, Shirley Collins. It was shot-gun marriage
of folk songs from Britain and America and accompaniments with blues,
jazz or Indian overtones. And it worked remarkably well.
	Since the mid-sixties he sporadically turned up to play clubs, made
occasional albums, and sporadically disappeared again. He had personal
and serious health problems, and followers often seemed unsure whether he
was alive or dead.

Gryphon: (From 40 Folk Favorites) Formed in 1972 around the instrumental
talents of Royal College of Music students Richard Harvey and Brian
Gulland. The Band achieved considerable success by reviving medieval
tunes and instruments (such as the crumhorn and the glockenspiel) in
arrangements designed to appeal to a modern audience.

Hickory Wind: They were around in the seventies, I don't know what became
of them. Presumably named after the Gram Parsons song. Progressive
bluegrass, Anglo-Celtic tunes, countryish originals, and even a
"world-beat" song or two (before such terms existed). Probably the
closest you'll ever get to an American Fairport Convention (Dave Mattacks
even played on a few tracks). They did one album for Adelphi, then the
two for Flying Fish. "Fresh Produce" is acoustic, more old-timey than
bluegrass. "Devil's Bridge" (1980) is truly a unique record and the "real
meat". Imagine the Allman Bros. with Gregg on hammer dulcimer whipping
through 'Morrison's Jig' ...then shades of Fairport, Ozark Mtn.
Daredevils ("Melody Lynn" sounds like it came from the first OMD record),
and on and on... Rolling Stone Record Guide gives Crossing and Fresh 4
stars.

Horselips: Rolling Stone Record Guide: Heavy Handed rock adaptations of
traditional Irish folk music. From the unidentified book: From Ireland,
they met while making a commercial for Harp lager, but in their glittery
pop world way they popularized Celtic music and helped to keep folk-rock
going. They were residents on an Irish television show in 1971, started
touring and recording in 1972, and the next year their album "Happy to
meet...sorry to part" was released in Britain. It was a pleasing, if
slightly wishy-wasy mixture of Irish airs and rock, played by a band who
were now expert at bashing out rock tunes around the tough Irish dance-
band circuit, and were likely to unwind after a gig with a heavy session
of drinking and playing folk tunes on pipes or concerintas. Their second
album "The Tain", which they released in 1974, finally established them.
It was a "concept album", based on the pre-Christian Celtic saga 'The
Cattle Raid of Cooley'. The music was mostly a rock interpretation of
traditional Celtic melodies, and was part-brash, part-traditional linked
with echoes of Jethro Tull. Like most Irish music, it was gloriously
tuneful.              
                 Horselips Discography

The Book of Invasions (1977)
Aliens (1978)
The Man Who Built America ((1979)
Short Stories, Tall Tales (1980)
Belfast Gigs (1981)

Incredible String Band: A band featuring the likes of Davey Graham, Dan
Ar Bras, Duck Baker, and Dave Evans. That Old Folk Book says (Mixed with
a dash from the RSRG): They came from Scotland. They started as a three
man jug band in 1965, playing in Glasgow at Clive's Incredible folk Club,
from which they took their name. Like other mid-Sixties folkies, Robin
Williamson and Mike Heron started out fitting personal chronicles and
self-righteous protests to blues and fiddle tunes. Their first album was
so unincredible that at least one folk-orientated record company turned
it down, and it was not until Clive Palmer left that the other two
members--Robin Williamson and Mike Heron--suddenly blossomed out to
produce some extraordinary music. Williamson favored the rhythmic
liberties of a cappella ballads and the weird shading of Middle Eastern
quartet-tones. Heron preferred calypso accents and exuberant innocence.
	With their second album "The 5,000 Spirits, Or Layers Of The Onion"
they virtually invented a new, global folk form that made use of
instruments and musical styles from anywhere. Both were excellent
guitarists, but they embellished with any interesting sound they came
across--gimbris, whistles, harpsichords or drums, fiddles, mandolins or
gimbris. More surprising still, they played them baffling well; the
result was no weak imitation off alien material, but completely new,
fresh fusion
	Psychedelia was at its peak in 1967 when the String Band rose to
prominence, and they summed up the admirable idealistic sides of flower
power. Their albums mixed an Eastern sense of awe of being alive with a
Western dry humor. "The Hangman's Beautiful Daughter" is their most
eclectic and most experimental album, a pattern (never equaled) for all
the rest. Abstruse fantasies, and parables are set to melodies that draw
on everything from spirituals to Gilbert and Sullivan. Unlike the later
albums, "Hangman's" sweetness and light is balanced by humor and vestiges
and protest. The songs showed a mystical, pantheist involvement in a very
living universe. It was neo-Wordsworthian imagery drawn not from a
Cumberland vale but the world at large.
	For a time the String Band managed to straddle both the folk world
and the underground. In one memorable week in 1967 they appeared
alongside Shirley Collins at a folk concert and alongside the Pink Floyd
at the Saville Theater. But it was just a matter of time before they
moved completely to the rock concert circuit, when the clubs could no
longer afford them or give them the necessary scope.
	Their fourth (double) album "Wee Tam and the Big Huge" showed them
extending their range yet again, this time to jug band and country
material. It included 'Air', a simple, gently humorous anthem to the
life-giving union of blood and oxygen, set to a murmuring calypso, and
the 'The Circle is Unbroken', one of Williamson's most eerie, haunting
hymns. It was all a long way from traditional music, but the influences
were still there.
	After releasing this remarkable album in 1968, the String Band's
fortunes began to slide just a little, and new members came and went. The
band's ambitions also changed. Their most adventurous, and disastrous
scheme was launched in 1970 when their musical, "U," ran at London's
Roundhouse and then toured America. It was a flop. It was described as "a
surreal parable in song and dance', and consisted of boy losing girl
because he can't see what she can see, and then eventually getting her
back, after being told "you're one of my kind, you're an infinite mind". 
	The spark of enthusiasm, excitement and idealism in their work
gradually dimmed. In place of exotic instruments they moved to a more
conventional rock line-up of electric guitars, bass and drums. In place
of unspecific romanticism they became Scientologists.
	
                Incredible String Band Discography

The Incredible String Band (1966)
The 5000 Spirits or the Layers of the Onion (1967)
The Hangman's Beautiful Daughter (1968)
Wee Tam (1968)
The Big Huge (1969)
Changing Horses (1969)
I Looked Up (1970)
Relics (1970)
U (1971)

Bert Jansch: From the Unremembered Folk Book: Davey Graham started the
folk baroque guitar school, but the man who was to popularize it was born
of Scottish-Austrian parents and started work as a gardener in a plant
nursery in Edinburgh. Bert Jansch then moved to London, became a
professional musician, and was soon a regular at Les Cousins. Jansch was
influenced by Big Bill Broonzy, Lightning Hopkins and other American
classic bluesman. Unlike Graham (who just wrote a few instrumental) he
then applied his blues technique to song-wring, and the result was the
highly personal collection that appeared on his first album, "Bert
Jansch," in 1965. His voice was weak, but delicately propped up by the
intricate accompaniment. The songs were for the most part introspective
and quietly melancholy, and the best-known, "Needle of Death" (which he
soon disowned) was one of the first successful songs to be written on the
drug problem.
	By the time the third Jansch album, "Jack Orion" was released, he
had become exceedingly fashionable in London, and his records were
outselling even Dylan in the Charing Cross Road folk shops. But his
interests were beginning to change. He applied the folk baroque style to
British traditional songs like 'Black Water Side' and 'Notamun Town.' In
the same year he recorded an album simply called "Bert and John" with his
only active rival in the "folk baroque" field, his friend John Renbourn.
It consisted mostly of jazz-tinged instrumentals that the two of them had
composed, along with a Charlie Mingus piece 'Goodbye Pork Pie Hat.' It's
highly inventive, free-flowing music that shows the enormous scope that
is possible with just two acoustic guitars.

J.S.D. Band: Scottish folk rock.

Ron Kavana: (From Dec 91 Pulse) Irishman, now a Londoner, may be the
hardest-working man in folk/roots music today. This year, he released
three albums, "Coming Days", with his electric band, "Home Fire" an
entirely acoustic set, and L.I.L.T--For the Children. The latter is a
special collection featuring the Pogues, Mary Coughlan, Kavana and others
performing Kavana's songs; it's a benefit for the Belfast Charitable
Trust for Integrated Education. "Coming Days" features diverse influences
combined with his Irish roots including: African rhythms, Caribbean
flavor, Cajun, R&B, rap'n'reel, etc.

John Kirkpatrick: Ex-Steeleye Span, frequent Richard Thompson
collaborator, ex-Albion Band member and all around cool squeezebox guy.
	Concert Review: I saw Mr Kirkpatrick performing to a small audience
in Swindon the other weekend. Small in spite of quite wide publicity, I'm
sorry to say - only about 60-70 there. He did a wide variety of stuff,
and I'm afraid I can't remember many of the titles.  Suffice to say, the
virtuosity of the playing was remarkable, and he has a very good rapport
with the audience.
	Because of the low numbers, the atmosphere was more like a folk
club night than a concert. I hadn't seen him before, although I've heard
the Steeleye stuff. The range of sounds he manages to get from what is
technically a very limited selection of instruments (one, two and
three-row melodeons, and a concertina) is extraordinary. Anyway, I bought
his 1984 album "Three in a Row" and it's well worth a listen. Mostly
tunes (in turn mostly his own) with a couple of songs. All very lively. 

John Kirkpatrick and Sue Harris: They have a number of duo releases,
also solo albums and a band called Umps and Dumps. My favorites are
"Facing the Music" (all instrumental) and "Shreds and Patches" (with
vocals). John's solo "Blue Balloon" has him fronting the Richard
Thompson band for a set of eccentric rock tunes. Sue's solo "Hammer and
Tongues" has some music hall influence. All of their stuff is import only
in the U.S., most are on the Topic label.

Lindisfarne: Some material more like American Folk-Rock ala the Band, and
others more celtic folk-rock.

Longdancer: Produced by Ian Matthews, sound similar to his own
recordings.

Mabsant: are a brilliant experimental folk group led by Siwsann George.
Their music ranges from traditional "canu gwerin" through jazz and
spirituals; a kind of John Renbourn approach to folk. Their latest is
"Kton Gron" which is out on CD as well as cassette; it's a song-cycle
linked by recurring pieces on the harp and saxophone. I know of three
albums:
     TRWY'R WEIAR [Sain]
     COFEB [Sain]
     TON GRON [Fflach]
	The last may be a bit harder to find, but I know Earl Williams has
it (though he doesn't advertise it). Well worth searching out.  All but
the first come with lyric sheets in Welsh and English. See Welch Folk.

Malicorne: Leaders of the French Folk revival. The handy pigeonhole for
them -- "The French Steeleye Span." I like their early albums (three of
which are titled Malicorne!) for the Hexagone label best, and their last
album "Les Cathedrales", "De L'Industrie" on Celluloid (France). Lovely,
often-elaborate textures. The albums from Hexagone are mostly now out as
import CD's, and Hannibal supposedly has a compilation CD in the works.
al. Some arrangements esp on their last albums approach rock.

                      Malicorne Discography

Malicorne (all three), Almanach, Quintessence, En Public, Le Bestiare, L'
Extraordinaire Tour de France d'Adelard Rousseau, and Balancoire. 

Mara: Australian band which began life as Tansey's Fancy and renamed
itself after its lead singer. Material from a variety of European
traditions; lots of Eastern European songs, drawn from the Australian
immigrant communities. Danny Thompson plays acoustic bass and sometimes
makes them sound a lot like Pentangle. "Images" is on the UK label Plant
"Life and On The Edge" was on the Aussie label Sandstock. Mostly
acoustic. 

Beryl Marriott: At this very hour Beryl Marriott is about to take the
stage in the Mill Theatre, Banbury, to open the show for the first night
of the Fairport Silver Jubilee tour. Beryl who, one may ask? Beryl
Marriott was who, over 30 years ago, took a very young Dave Swarbrick
under her wing and persuaded his go back to the fiddle, which he had
abandoned in favor of the guitar. Beryl had been a band leader for a
decade already, the midlands Ceilidh Queen. By the time he hooked up with
Martin Carthy in 1965 he was armed with a formidable collection of
tunes, and when he joined Fairport at the end of the decade, he helped
cement their transition from a band who did inventive covers of
contemporary American material (Byrds, Everlys, Paul Butterfield) to a
band who did unheard of reworkings of traditional Irish & British
folk songs and tunes. Folk rock would never be the same again. Beryl has
a SUPER album out now on Woodworm, "Weave the Mirror", recorded with the
help of Chris Leslie (Whippersnapper) and the current FC lineup. If you
have any of Swarb's solo albums from the 76-83 period, you will have
heard her charming and classy piano work. Highly recommended.

Ian Matthews: Another Fairport alumnus, who has about a dozen albums out
there. Only his latest, on Windham Hill, is still in print in the US. My
favorites are "If You Saw Thru My Eyes" which has Thompson and
Fotheringay backing him up, and "Valley Hi", an LA country album done
with Michael Nesmith of the Monkees.

Men They Couldn't Hang: Check out the first release, "The Night of a
Thousand Candles" Terrific Stuff! Trowser Press says: One of the current
rock bands not too unlike the Pogues, this electrified quintet doesn't
put a specific ethnic cant to its trad-folkified originals, but does
employ similar instruments and was partially produced by Philip Chevron
of MacGowan's clan.

               Men They Couldn't Hang Discography

Night of a Thousand Candles Demon      Fiend CD 50  1985
Greenback Dollar EP         Demon                   1986
How Green is the Valley     MCA (UK)   DMCF 3337    1987
Waiting For Bonaparte       Magnet     CDMAG 5075
The Colours 5" single       Magnet     CDSELL 6
The Crest 3" single        Magnet     YZ193CD
Silvertown                  Silvertone 1208-2-J
Rain, Steam, and Speed 3"s  Silvertone Ore CD 4
Domino Club                 Silvertone 1391-2-J     1990

Mr Fox: They formed at the same time as Steeleye Span, played at the
same bookings, and lasted two years or so. They produced a double lp and
two single lp's (the double may be the same as the 2 singles), 'Mr. Fox'
and 'The Gypsy', and had a variable line up which included a fine
clarinet, and an amazing drummer. They failed because the lead female
singer played fiddle badly, and they split up. They wrote their own
'traditional' songs, rather than electrifying old songs, and they were
extremely powerful ballads. I still sing Mr Fox itself (a really nasty
Reynard song, where the fox gets his just deserts). The Grey Hawk was
another one. Anyway, not a band to sit and relax to, but well worth the
effort of chasing up. Featuring Bob & Carole Pegg, along with Barry
Lyons and Alan Eden.
	Another Perspective: From the Unremembered Folk Book: The first,
most original, and most disastrous of the studiedly English folk-rock
writers were a couple from Leeds, Bob and Carole Pegg. They were hard-
core traditionalists who had spent some time wandering  around the
Yorkshire vales and mors, collecting songs and local stories. Then, with
a barrage of quasi-academic explanations and attacks they rounded on the
folk scene and started a rock band, Mr Fox. The band was mostly a
disaster-its members simply weren't good enough--and this obscured some
of the extremely fine songs that Bob, in particular was writing.
	Mr. Fox made two albums--"Mr Fox" and "The Gypsy"--that still stand
up well. The songs were mostly Yorkshire nostalgia, all about the closing
of the lead mines and village bands, but with a black, creepy edge behind
the sturdy tunes. 'The Hanged Man', a gory tale of a hiker who slips to
his death, and Carole's supernatural 'Gay Goshawk' both hinted at
something nasty out there in the English countryside. Bob and Carole both
had harsh, unusual voices, and played guitar, whistle and fiddle. Bass
and drums completed a band that when on form--as on their two albums--was
compelling listening. But live, as at the Cambridge Folk Festival, it was
too often a different story.
	Bob and Carole's marriage broke up, and so did the band. Both have
since followed solo careers, but neither has yet produced anything to
match the first Mr Fox album. Carole came close, changing her name to
Carolanne, and recording an excellent solo album, backed by leading
session musicians. Her interest was moving towards country and rock,
though, and her best song 'Winter People' was hardly folk-orientated.
Carolanne later formed a short-lived band, Magus, with Graham Bond (just
before his death), and then returned to solo work. Bob meanwhile teamed
up with Nick Strutt, as an acoustic duo, and produced a surprisingly
quiet and melodic album. Pleasant, but no match for his earlier songs.

Van Morrison: Van Morrison and Chieftains.

Mouth Music: 'Mouth music' is a fairly generic term. It's a type of
music ('puirt a beul' in Gaelic) which is fast and mainly 'sung'.
There's minimal accompaniment with instruments. The music has it's
origins in the days when people held dances, but there was no musical
instruments around to dance to, so songs with strong rhythms which could
be danced to were invented. Capercaillie have some examples of mouth
music on their albums.
	The "Mouth Music" is Talitha Mackenzie & Martin Swan; it's on
Triple Earth Records in the UK & in the US, is distributed by Ryko (rcd
10196). I first heard it sometime last year on Henry Kaiser's radio show
on KPFA radio in Berkeley. Talitha Mackenzie does the vocals & Martin
Swan the instruments (mostly synthesizers, drum machines & the like). The
songs are all Puirt a beul, sung in Gaelic, & the liner notes print the
Gaelic version, English translation, & the source of the song. If you
take the direction that Capercaillie is taking with this style of music,
& extrapolate, you "mite" get to the style of music on this CD.

	Mackenzie & Swan were featured in the Sept 90 Folkroots Magazine
(#87)
	Here's the intro to the article: "Mouth Music comes in many shapes &
forms but the Mouth Music of this feature article adds a new dimension to
the usual semantic ponderings....Their approach ... [takes] the mouth
music -- "puirt-a-beul" -- of Gaelic Scotland & mixed it with the
polyrhythms of Africa, abetted by the liberating influence of keyboard
technology & samples. Thus their treatment of a comparatively familiar
song by Gaelic standards, "Bratach Bana" ('White Banners'), quickly
establishes itself as a very different example of flag-waving. Martin's
radical use of keyboards  -- radical enough to give Calum Kennedy (more
about him later) a blue fit with his leg up -- & colour instruments
instantly makes the connection between the modern & the traditional. He
does it with an eye on the way that African musicians such as Salif
Keita, Ousmane Kouyate, Baaba Maal, & Brice Wassy have used the rhythms
of the workplace and social activities and turned them around, made them
contemporary & timeless....
	"Where Mouth Music's approach differs from the earlier work of,
say, the Bothy Band and Capercaillie, lies in their melding of a
tradition-grounded singing style & keyboard technology with
Afro-rhythms."
	Ok, I think that's enuf to get the idea across.
	Talitha Mack., born in NY, has a background as a student of
folksinging & went to Scotland in the late '80's to study Scottish
ethnology & Gaelic singing, according to the article. She has
released some other records, probably under her maiden name Talitha
Nelson, which the article suggests would be Irish/Celtic material.
Martin Swan's bio isn't covered in detail but he is from England, & it
sounds like he was involved in TV work; they met while he was working on
a film called "Dance To My Shadow" about South Uist.
	Here's a comment from Talitha about Gaelic songs: "'I liked the
sound of the Gaelic language, but I think what attracted me more was
something about Gaelic songs that is different,' she confides. 'I don't
know whether it's different to me personally but they seem to speak --
excuse the cliche/ -- straight from the heart.  There's something very
intense about them. Not necessarily with all Gaelic songs, particularly
the newer ones. The ones I like tend to be older.' '....I wanted to show
the Gaelic singers of my generation, the younger singers, that it was
possible to use an old style of singing, a technique with songs, and have
them be currently accessible & popular. I found that for the greatest
part that most singers do have this stagey, Olivia Newton-John technique
of Gaelic singing. With the girls especially I think it comes from having
been put on stage too early....'"
	Next Re: I heard Mouth Music's first live gig in Edinburgh a week
ago. As I've heard people saying complementary things about their record,
I can only conclud

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67.50SYSTEM::COCKBURNCraig CockburnMon Nov 30 1992 15:2730
Recommendation from the net on where to get various Scottish/Celtic stuff 
in the US:


Article: 12732
Newsgroups: rec.music.folk
From: rblackma@nyx.cs.du.edu (robert blackman)
Subject: CEltic music source
Organization: Nyx, Public Access Unix (sponsored by U. of Denver Math/CS dept.)
Date: Fri, 27 Nov 92 01:39:43 GMT
 
My favorite source for most domestic folk albums is Elderly Instruments,
but the best source for Celtic and British imports may be Devine Celtic
Sounds, PO Box 5983, Glendale, AZ 85312, 1-602-938-8132.  They carry
CDs, tapes, and LPs, both new and used, including these labels:
Lismor, Iona, Claddagh, Harbourtown, Snow Goose, Roundtower, Fellside,
Greentrax, and many more.  The Sept 1992 catalog includes Capercaillie's
"Crosswinds," "Delirium," "Fear a Bhata," "Sidewaulk," and "Waiting
for the Wheel to Turn."  They have lots of Mary Black, 3 Dick Gaughan
CDs, Enya, Runrig, Wolfestone, etc., plus lots of the stuff that's also
available domestically on Green Linnet and Shanachie.  Catalog lists items
in small type, two columns per page single-spaced; it has 3 pages of CDs,
6 pages of cassettes, 1 page of 45 rpm singles, 6 1/2 pages of vinyl LPs,
plus a handful of videos and songbooks.  Most CDs are in the $15-$20
range, which is quite reasonable for imports.  Seems a lot easier to
get stuff this way then by ordering directly overseas and messing with
currency conversions, etc.  (My bank charges $15 just to convert my
U,S, funds into pounds sterling.)  Anyway, it's worth sending her $1
for a catalog.  ("Her" = Laurie Devine, who runs it.  You can meet her
at the Feb. 1993 Folk Alliance conference in Tucson...)
67.51Clannad LivesSCARGO::PRIESTLEYTue Jan 26 1993 15:5443
    Clannad is, by far, my favorite Irish band, I have been following their
    recordings for about nine years now, collecting them whenever I find
    them.  To my best knowledge, I am only missing one of them.
    
    Clannad discography as near as I can figure:
    
    Clannad          I do not have a copy of this anymore
    Clannad 2        Have this on CD
    Dulaman               "	
    Clannad Live          "
    Crann Ull             "
    Magical Ring          "
    Robin of Sherwood (Soundtrack album)     LP only
    Macalla               "       and LP
    Best of Clannad (Third Party compilation album)        CD
    Sirius                CD
    Atlantic Realm (Soundtrack)          CD
    Anam                  CD
    
    Clannad has been around since around 1969-70 timeframe and is made up
    of a family group from the gaeltacht region of Donnegal
    
    The band make up is as follows
    
    Maire Ni' Bhraoinan   Harp and vocals	
    Ciaran O' Braoinan    Bass	
    Pol O' Braoinan       Guitar and Keyboards	
    		The Braoinans are all siblings
    Noel O' Dugain        Drums/percussion
    Padraig O'Dugain	  Guitars
    		The O'Dugains are uncles to the Braoinans though of the
    same age.
    
    I sam Clannad in concert at the Berkley Center for the Performing Arts
    back a few years ago when they were touring to promote Sirius.  They
    were fantastic.  I had seats way in the back, but was drawn in
    completely by the performance.  I am personally attracted to their older
    work, most of which is traditional Gaelic language ballads and
    folk-songs, but some of their later work is outstanding as well.
    
    Andrew
    
    
67.52EEMELI::HAUTALAAsko Eho rules OK!Wed Jan 27 1993 04:247
    
    re -1:
    
    Clannad's II and Dulaman are fantastic! Never seen them live, though.
    
    
    Hannu
67.53Brehon Law has a tape out, no CD...yetKITVS::VONSUCKMon Mar 15 1993 16:4918
    Brehon Law, that notable Irish group featuring two brothers of
    Digital's own John Giblin (pick any two brothers, they change often)
    hoave released their first tape.
    
    Entitled "Giving It All That"  It contains a mixture of Trad Irish, and
    new tunes including one written by Martin Fury (exclusive to this tape
    until such time as someone else puts it down) entitled "Soldier Boy"
    
    
    Ye can pick up copies at Paddy Burke's in Boston.   I'm also told it's
    available in some of the shops in Galway.  Cost for the tape is $10.00.
    
    As a courtesy to those in Spitbrook, I have a couple copys.  I'm in
    ZK3-2/X74.  You can stop by here if you don't want to go to Boston.
    Same cost.
    
    Kit
    
67.55BUSY::SLABOUNTYTrouble with a capital 'T'Wed Mar 22 1995 16:3810
    
    	I heard Horslips broke up years ago ... late 70's, and then
    	read here yesterday that they reformed for a reunion tour
    	about 8 years ago.
    
    	Have they separated again, or is there anything new from
    	them?
    
    	Thanks for any info.