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Conference tallis::celt

Title:Celt Notefile
Moderator:TALLIS::DARCY
Created:Wed Feb 19 1986
Last Modified:Tue Jun 03 1997
Last Successful Update:Fri Jun 06 1997
Number of topics:1632
Total number of notes:20523

678.0. "Leitrim" by USWAV1::CHAPLAIN () Wed Nov 15 1989 00:43

    I put a note in here the other day but then deleted it figgerin'
    "eh, who cares?".  Upon reflection however, I figgered "well, since
    I put it in in the first place *I* must care, and come to think
    of it, I don't partic'ly care WHETHER OR NOT nobody else cares"...
    so here it is:
    
    My dear, departed, deceased, expired, passed-away, heretofore-to-
    remain-among-the-non-living grandfather used to relate to me in
    a usually sober state, the unparalleled beauty, grandeur and
    singular simplicity of life in County Leitrim around the turn of
    the century.  Something about two-foot-long salmon peeked in me
    a particular interest in the area and since there is a chance,
    if I move quickly, of partaking of the hospitality of some fine
    people there, I was just curious if anyone had anything to offer,
    within the confines of this benighted NOTES file, of the local
    sights, sounds, or areas of the County to be avoided.  :-)
    
    Poor Leitrim, he used to say...not a boat in sight.
    
    Frank
    
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678.1Wild Rose of ManorDUB01::TINNELLYEIS Dublin IrelandWed Nov 15 1989 10:5225
    
    Frank,
    
    If your Grandfather was still around, he would probably be delighted
    to see that things in Leitrim have not changed very much since the
    turn of the century. :-)
    
    I travel up and down to Manorhamilton to a customer site quite
    regularly, and I am usually queried by the British Army as to where
    am I coming from. I usually reply the Health Board in Manorhamilton,
    to which I usally get a reply saying "I didnt know they had electricity
    never mind Health Boards in Leitrim. The Irish Humor is rubbing
    off on these guys I suppose. Then again...
    
    THe highlight of the year in Leitrim seems to be a festival called
    The Wild Rose of Manorhamilton, in which the keenest local lass
    gets picked to promote  the county... There isnt a bed to be found
    in the locality around for weeks, as D_OSullivan (a keen Celt noter)
    will tell you.
    
    It definitely is a county that tends to go unnoticed from a tourists
    point, for me it is one of the nicest counties in Ireland. It still
    has that beauty, that is very difficult to describe.
    
    regards peter.
678.2DUB02::POCONNELLO'Conan the ConniverWed Nov 15 1989 11:309
>    The Wild Rose of Manorhamilton, in which the keenest local lass
>    gets picked to promote  the county... There isnt a bed to be found
>    in the locality around for weeks, as D_OSullivan (a keen Celt noter)
>    will tell you.
 
    I've heard of the 'casting couch', but this is ridiculous! 
    
    :-)
    Pat.
678.3USWAV1::CHAPLAINFri Nov 17 1989 00:3015
    re .1
    
      Well, if it's a place that the tourists "conveniently" forget,
    then it sounds like the place for me.  I always thought that traveling
    in Ireland should be done while all the American tourists were either
    cooking on the beach or attending the neighborhood "Ooh Look At Me"
    festival. If/when I go, it will be a DEFINITE consideration.
    
      As for being "queried" by the British Army...(where's the moderator?)
    ...well, they'd just better have a sense of humor that would put
    W C Fields to shame.  :-)
    
    Frank
    
    
678.4Ask them if you can have an 8x10 sent to you later ...STEREO::BURNSUp the BannerFri Nov 17 1989 10:3010
    
    Frank:                 
    
    Make sure you smile for the camera, as your being "Greeted" at the
    border .....  :-)


          
    
    keVin
678.5USWAV1::CHAPLAINMon Nov 20 1989 01:467
    
      Kivin, all they'd probably get on the photograph is one singular,
    unadorned digit.  That or a great big MOON.  Or maybe I'll just
    give the sentry a great big KISS and stick a flower in his muzzle.
    
                                :-)
    
678.6SALEM::CULBERTFree Michael CulbertMon Nov 20 1989 13:349
    
    
    Frank,
    
       Boy oh boy  are you in for a suprise.  8*)
    
    Visiting day is Sunday  8*)
    
    paddy
678.7Re: TouristsGENIE::KRINERtanstaaflMon Nov 20 1989 21:0010
Re .3
    
>                                           I always thought that traveling
>    in Ireland should be done while all the American tourists were either
>    cooking on the beach or attending the neighborhood "Ooh Look At Me"
>    festival.
    
Or better yet, when they are still in America!

Paul
678.8USWAV1::CHAPLAINTue Nov 21 1989 10:1910
    re .7
    
       S'what I meant.  I always thought it might be fun traveling during
    the month of...oh, say March.  ROTTEN weather, I know, but ya kin
    just partake of all the yabberin', frothy indoor activities...at
    least 'til closing time.
    
                                 :-)
    Frank
    
678.10Blue rinse brigadeDUB01::BRENNAN_MDulce et Decorum estTue Nov 21 1989 12:0310
    Well, you would be in good company.
    
    All the U.S. school bands - over for St Paddy's day. They come together
    with their parents,ants and various other attachments. I must say
    thou that I enjoy watching them freezing to death in their skimpy
    outfits.
    
    I am normally well clothed in hot Whiskey at the parade.
    
    		MBr
678.11A Leitrim questionGENIE::KRINERtanstaaflTue Nov 21 1989 13:129
Well, since this topic is about Leitrim, I think my question belongs
in here.  I am learning a song (_My County Leitrim Queen_) that makes
reference to "Edward's town".  I am assuming that it is in Leitrim,
but don't find a town by that name on any of my maps of Ireland, so
I figure it is some sort of allusion.  Does anybody have any idea 
what town it might be?

Thanx,
Paul
678.12?DUB02::POCONNELLO'Conan the ConniverTue Nov 21 1989 15:217
>  in here.  I am learning a song (_My County Leitrim Queen_) that makes
>  reference to "Edward's town".  I am assuming that it is in Leitrim,
                 *************
    
    Are you sure it's not Edgeworthstown?
    
    Pat     
678.13USWAV1::CHAPLAINTue Nov 21 1989 15:449
    re .10
    
       Oh yeah, I forgot...St Patrick's Day.
    
       Oh well, it'll have to be January then.  No one in their right
    mind would even DREAM of visiting Ireland in January.  I mean, even
    the fish migrate south, right?
    
    
678.14Whose town is it, anyway?GENIE::KRINERtanstaaflTue Nov 21 1989 18:3110
Re: .12

No, I'm not sure that it's not Edgeworthstown.  At first I thought they
were saying "Edgeworth town", but, after listening again, it sounds much 
more like "Edward's town".  I'll have to listen again tonight.  (I'm 
getting the song off a tape, you see, the words aren't written down.)

Is there an Edgeworthstown?
    
Paul
678.15MOSTRIMTRIBES::CREANYou remind me of the TS11Wed Nov 22 1989 08:042
    I believe Edgeworthstown is now called Mostrim
    
678.16DUB02::POCONNELLO'Conan the ConniverWed Nov 22 1989 10:1612
>    I believe Edgeworthstown is now called Mostrim
 
    That's it. Mostrim doesn't scan in the quite the same way, for 'poetic'
    purposes. 
    
    :-)
                   
    Wasn't Edgworthstown named after one of the more 'enlightened'
    landlords? His daughter was the novelist Maria Edgeworth, of _Castle
    Rackrent_ fame. 
    
    Pat.   
678.17ThanxGENIE::KRINERtanstaaflWed Nov 22 1989 11:044
Mostrim, huh?  You're right about that name for poetic purposes.
Anyway, thanks for the help.  I like to know of what I sing!

Paul
678.18The More O'Ferrall affairTRIBES::CREANYou remind me of the TS11Thu Nov 23 1989 06:4918
    Re -.2
    
    I'm not so sure about enlightened landlords.....all I
    know about Mostrim is that in 1938 there was a dispute
    between the local landlord and the tenants, over a hundred
    of whom were threatened with eviction. The dispute became
    extremely bitter and led eventually to a 'land agent',
    Colonel More O'Ferrall, being shot dead. The assassins were
    never identified. The only witness, a student called Michael
    Scott who later became a fasionable architect and the initiator
    of the James Joyce museum and who is now dead, declined to
    identify any of the suspects subsequently arrested.
    
     (Younger readers may not know what a land agent is. The term
    is a euphemism for rent collector)
    
    
    
678.19DBO116::POCONNELLO'Conan the ConniverThu Nov 23 1989 15:367
    My original note had put <enlightened> in quotes.

    Wasn't Engels an 'enlightened' Capitalist?
    
    :-)
    
    Pat
678.20WAV14::CHAPLAINFri Nov 24 1989 08:5623
    
       Paddy, Kivin, anyone else who's had the...ahem...pleasure......
    
       Tell me more about this "warm welcome" at the border.  I have
    kin in Fermanaugh as well and plan on visiting when I go.  Y'mean
    ta tell me they're gonna be so pleased to see me that they're gonna
    take PICTURES in remembrance of the occasion.  Maybe send one to
    the royal family so's they can admire my evil, grinnin' face?  Why,
    it'll take me a week just to brush my teeth in preparation for this
    unprecedented honor...
    
       ...lessee...I'll have to trim my toenails, cut my nose-hair,
    pluck my eyebrows...and I'll have to change my underwear (last year's
    simply won't do).  
    
    
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