Conference smurf::dec_mls_plus

	Hi Leo,

	I realize that you cannot check all of these products out,
	because you may not have a "feel" for which products rely
	on data structures or files that have been modified and
	therefore will also have to be modified to run as a layered
	product; or if it is just a matter of granting the correct
	privilege to the product (in other words, the program does 
	a setuid(0) or similar operation, and there is no need to 
	modify the program to just get it to run).

	But we have no available resources either.  In some cases, 
	with some products, we have *some* information, but you have 
	a long list.

	Can you put together a sales program justification, or an
	ECP for this project?  In that way we might be able to get 
	someone assigned to test these layered products to determine 
	whether they will or will not run.

	If you want help doing a justification or description of the 
	statement of work, can you please send mail to becker@mail.dec.com 
	(Phil Becker)?

	Also, it would help if you could prioritize the list. And,
	if you could give some reason why the customer wants that
	particular product (other than the obvious: "they want
	backup") it may tell us how much we have to qualify it.

	For example, it's my (possibly weak) understanding that the
	"Compliance Security" product is not really necessary on 
	an MLS+ system, since most of its features are built-in 
	functions of MLS+.

	Thanks,
	Barbara

    Here comes my favorite subject :-)
    
    	    1)  Polycenter Console Manager
            2)  Polycenter WatchDog
    
    These two have gone to CA.  Jim ZEKE::burton is a good place to start. 
    The consol manager has only recently been ported to UNIX V4 and the
    watchdog isn't there yet.
    
            3)  Polycenter Manager Netview
    pass
    
            4)  Polycenter Compliance Security
            5)  Polycenter Intrusion Detector
    These two are currently looking for a buyer and are NOT avaiuilable for
    UNIX V4
    
            6)  Polycenter PathDoctor
    went to CA - not clear if there wwill be a V4 version
    
            7)  Polycenter Performance Advisor/Advisor Collector
    Went to CA  I believe a V4 version has just been released
    
            8)  Polycenter Capacity Planner
    Still a DEC product
    
            9)  Polycenter Advanced File System Utilities
            10) Logical Storage Manager
    MLS+ *could no these
    
            11) Trucluster Available Server
            12) Trucluster Production Server
    Some work was done to port ASE 1.2 to MLS+ V3.1a - so I guess it could
    be done again for ASE quite simply. (but it cost the DOVER project
    qiuite a few $$ :-)   The MC stuff for the Procuction Server will add a
    whole lot of work.
    
            13) Full Sail (The customer would like to know if this product
    has been
                           really retired)
    
    I thingk  this has been replaced with the Performance Manager.  This is
    available on UNIX V4.
    
    As always,  none of the layered products consider it finantially
    worthwhile adding support for MLS+ (*I have the ECPs to prove it*)
    
    Jc
    
    (Excuse masses of typos - I'm on a really slow dial-up today)
    

    Thank you John!

    Only too happy to help.  I wish somene had none this before I got
    lumbered!
    
    Jc