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Title:Please look for existing notes before starting new topics.
Moderator:SMURF::BINDER
Created:Wed Jun 15 1988
Last Modified:Fri Jun 06 1997
Last Successful Update:Fri Jun 06 1997
Number of topics:1038
Total number of notes:11461

1037.0. "Composer's unfinished works" by HANDVC::STEVELIU () Tue Mar 25 1997 04:02

    
    This note is for discussion on any composer's unfinished works.
    
    Let me post with my 1st reply on the status of a unfinished work by a
    known composer.
    
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1037.1ELGAR'S 3rd SymphonyHANDVC::STEVELIUTue Mar 25 1997 04:047
    
        from VNS news :
    
        ELGAR'S unfinished Third Symphony, probably the most significant
        incomplete British work of the century, is being finished against
        his dying wishes by a composer hired by his family.
    
1037.2BizetCOOKIE::MUNNSdaveTue Mar 25 1997 20:286
    Bizet left a large quantity of unfinished compositions.  Maybe there is
    a career in completing them ?
    
    His publisher did not release his only symphony, written when Bizet was
    17, and it was finally performed (and well received) in the 1930's, over 
    50 years after his death. 
1037.3DECCXL::WIBECANThat's the way it is, in Engineering!Tue Mar 25 1997 20:557
>>    Bizet left a large quantity of unfinished compositions.  Maybe there is
>>    a career in completing them ?

If so, that person would not have any time to do anything else.  If asked, the
response would be "I'm Two Bizet."

						Brian
1037.4SMURF::BINDERErrabit quicquid errare potest.Wed Mar 26 1997 15:577
    Schubert left many scraps and sketches.  Musicologist Brian Newbould
    completed and ochestrated several of them for Neville Marriner's
    complete set of Schubert symphonies.  I, for one, would DEARLY love for
    Schubert to have completed his 10th symphony - the Newbould realization
    from Schubert's sketches of the first movement suggests that Schubert
    might potentially  have been even more daringly innovative than
    Beethoven.
1037.5What comes after 8...?CSC32::P_MILLSSisyphus did telephone support.Fri Apr 11 1997 17:259
    
    I heard this story about Mahler:
    
    Mahler finished his 8th symphony. He wanted to avoid the 
    write-your-ninth-symphony-and-die syndrome, so while he
    conceives of it as a symphony, he writes his next big piece
    and names it Das Lied von der Erde. He's still alive, so he
    writes the Ninth...and dies, leaving what is called the Tenth
    unfinished. 
1037.6the mysterious 10th !HANDVC::STEVELIUThu Jun 05 1997 08:0326
    
    Mahler's 10th sym was indeed completed at least with complete
    movements, I think I saw some recording of it, this is a huge
    piece of work to complete though.
    
    yes, both Beethoven's and Schubert's 10th sym were also completed.
    the former only was completed with the 1st movement by scholar, 
    Barry Cooper, and the latter was in its entirety.
    
    Incomplete manu-scripts for these 2 10th sym do hint at some
    breakthrough will take place. Beethoven's closed friend, Carl ?,
    has listened to Beethoven playing the first movement on the piano.
    Many believe that the completed manu-script did exist but was
    stolen and never come back to light. If it will be ever found, it
    will be in the hand of one of the family lines that lived in 
    Beethoven's time or perhaps being trashed by one of the ignorant
    in the family who didn't recognize what it was. I hope it will be
    revealed one day.
    
    liu