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Title:ase
Moderator:SMURF::GROSSO
Created:Thu Jul 29 1993
Last Modified:Fri Jun 06 1997
Last Successful Update:Fri Jun 06 1997
Number of topics:2114
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2012.0. "LSM v's ADVfs ???" by BNKSIA::DEGROOT ($ SET WEEKEND=GREAT/OVERIDE=WEATHER) Tue Apr 22 1997 07:29

    Hi,
    	We are about to implement a fairly large DECsafe environment (2
    separate clusters - each with 2 8400's and multiple HSZ50 and a few
    hundred GB's of disk). The disks will be hardware RAIDed only - no
    plans for LSM RAID at this stage (although they MAY look at it some
    time down the track for some sort of disaster tolerance). They are
    using Oracle. They don't look like going for a TruCluster Production
    Server at this stage.
    
    We originally were planning to do LSM on top of ADVfs, but it now looks
    like NSIS want to implement a purely ADVfs based system because of the
    perception of added complexity.
    
    
    Could someone help with some advice on the pros and cons of a LSM based
    DECsafe environment v's an ADVfs one?
    
    
    Thanks in advance,
    Paul deGroot
    Tech. Support.
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2012.1XIRTLU::schottEric R. Schott USG Product ManagementTue Apr 22 1997 13:3043
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>    	We are about to implement a fairly large DECsafe environment (2
>    separate clusters - each with 2 8400's and multiple HSZ50 and a few
>    hundred GB's of disk). The disks will be hardware RAIDed only - no
>    plans for LSM RAID at this stage (although they MAY look at it some
>    time down the track for some sort of disaster tolerance). They are
>    using Oracle. They don't look like going for a TruCluster Production
>    Server at this stage.
>    
>    We originally were planning to do LSM on top of ADVfs, but it now looks
>    like NSIS want to implement a purely ADVfs based system because of the
>    perception of added complexity.


I suggest you tell them to install LSM, and place all volumes in
LSM, regardless of whether you plan to use software or hardware raid.

LSM provide a lot if useful information, and the ability to move
data around based on performance or other issues.

What they suggest will work, but will require a harder upgrade later
when you want lsm (either for management, striping, or just gathering
performance data).

See lsm's volstat and voltrace commands for interesting performance
data...

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>    
>    Could someone help with some advice on the pros and cons of a LSM based
>    DECsafe environment v's an ADVfs one?

I don't think it is an LSM vs AdvFS question...I think your choices
are:

    AdvFS alone
    or AdvFS using LSM volumes.

I suggest the latter, as it provide more management control, without
major re-install problems later.


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