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Title:Sports Memorabilia
Notice:Wanted: 3.*; For_sale: 4.*; Traded: 5.*
Moderator:SCHOOL::KOPACKO
Created:Wed Aug 27 1986
Last Modified:Thu May 08 1997
Last Successful Update:Fri Jun 06 1997
Number of topics:730
Total number of notes:8547

556.0. "Kind of Dead Lately ?" by FUTURE::JST_ONGE (John St.Onge USDSL DTN 275-2715) Tue Apr 27 1993 00:28

    Is it me or does anyone feel like things are kind of dead lately ?
    I haven't had any urge to really buy anything lately.  I can't say
    I forked out a lot of money as far as Shaq mania goes, but some of
    the prices on stuff  like  Fleer  Ultra  Baseball has just kept me
    away. I don't know how anyone can really keep up with it anymore.
    
    Seems like 30-45$ for a wax box is the going rate and 30$ is cheap
    when you think about it. I bought some Score boxes for 17$, but it
    seems like no one will touch those  because  they're not a premium
    card. I can't even find singles for these at shows.
    
    Maybe Leaf  or  Upper Deck Series II  will  get my enthusiam going
    again, but right now it just seems dead.
    
    John
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556.1exitCARTUN::PAVLOCKTue Apr 27 1993 01:3916
    John,
    
    IMHO, everyone is "Shaq'ed" out and broke buying all the BKB products
    with Shaq in them.
    
    I bought Fleer Ultra BB and I think it's a very nice product.  I've
    had my want list in this notes file for several weeks and I haven't
    seen anyone else looking for Ultra BB commons, yet.
    
    Basketball has been crazy all winter, but nothing like the number of
    Baseball products that are out or coming out.  Like you said, people
    are tired of sooo many different BB products...
    
    Regards,
    Denny
    
556.2NO NO NO NO NO NO NO STUDIO::GUTIERREZCitizen of the CosmosTue Apr 27 1993 12:448
    
    
    	Just say "NO" to Shaq-Attack and Shaq-Mania, 
    
    	I did.
    
    
    		Juan
556.3"fun" and "hobby" are key words for meSMAUG::FLOWERSIBM Interconnect Eng.Tue Apr 27 1993 13:004
I would say it's the high prices and insert mania that have calmed my 
enthusiasm... and subsequently, my spending.

Dan
556.4 no help thereWMOIS::ZELENT_JTue Apr 27 1993 13:017
    
    
    	I don't think the Leaf will get you going either, dealer cost is
    supposed to be $40, so you can guess what our cost will be.
    
    
    							Joe
556.5BlahsQETOO::HAYESTue Apr 27 1993 14:479
    Same here. No interest in cards. I have a want list for Topp's
    Series II Baseball Gold but seems no one else is collecting them.
    The regular Topps I have went into a box unsorted and then into
    the closet.
    
    It's golf season. Can't afford $30 green's fees and $45 boxes of
    cards. One had to go. 
    
    Steve
556.6Patience is bestMSDOA::PARKERJWed Apr 28 1993 03:3010
    I gotta agree, seems every product coming out is very high priced. 
    Even those Triple Play cards that are supposed to be for kids are .75 a
    pack.  I went to a show in Charlotte NC, about 50 tables and the only
    current hockey was UD.  Only 2 dealers had either, one wanted $50 for a
    box the other 33.  Passed on both.  Its tough when half of the tables
    are selling stuff at 40% off, old stuff too.  Good condition and
    everything.  I think staying away from the hyped up stuff is best.  I
    don't believe the current values of Shaq ect.. will hold up.  
    
    Jon
556.7All Shaqued outEBBCLU::MONDALTOWed Apr 28 1993 18:1313
    I've been waiting for this day to come for a while,no more hype on 
    Shaq. I'm Shaqed out,McShaqued out,and Shaq attacked out,now I can
    start completing some of my sets that have been hanging around for
    the last couple of months. I looked at all my cards from 1989 and 1990
    excluding Leaf baseball,and Score football, I'm going to sell
    everything at my yard sale,one big table of everything,just let it 
    all go,this way I'll have some money for (1993 Football) NOT.
    
    I agree with you Steve and Saint,I've had it !
    
                                              John Mondo
    
    
556.8exICS::LERRAWed Apr 28 1993 18:488
    Hey John....why don't you let us all know where/when the yard sale is
    going to happen? Just think...if you price the items low enough, you
    might keep some of us in the hobby for a while longer!!!
    
    Just kidding.........
    
    dennis
    
556.9ramblingsDDIF::TANCILLWell, hello Mr. SoulWed Apr 28 1993 19:1228
    
    I've been saying for awhile now what happens after Shaq hype dies
    down and you guys are feeling it, nothing.  We've had the ultimate
    peak in hype (Shaq and series 2 basketball), now it's fading and
    nothing all that exciting is going on.  We've had two plus years of
    high quality cards (nothing new in this years ultra, stadium, etc.)
    and we've had two plus years of inserts (nobody is collecting full
    inserts sets they way they used to even a year ago, it's old hat and
    the prices almost always come down a month or two later, come down even
    more as more time passes).  And yet the prices are still high for
    boxes, etc.  Couple that with too many companies and too many sets
    and eventually everyone is going to get the blahs.  You can't keep
    up even if you had the money, nothing fresh at a good price is really
    coming out, just more of the same and it all costs too much.
    
    I think we are seeing a classic peak in a market cycle, the frenzied
    spike caused by Shaq-mania is a classic sign of a speculative top.
    
    Now, having said all that I think if you're any kind of a basketball
    collector, Shaq not-withstanding, you have to love this class of
    rookies.  As people blow out basketball sets, stash one away for the
    kids or grand kids, they'll thank you 20 or so years from now ;-).
    (not intended to be an ad for my for sale note, I really think some
    people are over looking a great rookie crop as they become
    disillusioned with the Shaq overhype.)
    
    jeff
    
556.10Show time....ZENDIA::SCHOTTFri Apr 30 1993 14:105
    Cheer up!  Rick Middleton is signing autographs at the
    Chelmsford Mall tonight from 5:00pm to 7:00pm.  They have
    a card show going as well, although yesterday they had only
    3 dealers there.  Maybe Sat/Sun will bring out more?
    
556.11BSS::G_MCINTOSHEarn More Sessions By SleavingMon May 10 1993 13:5013
    
    Well John, I sure hope that this lull in enthusiasm will cause
    a thinning of the various card sets.  I love football cards but
    having soooo many sets to follow and sort through is a royal pain.
    
    If I were the card gods, I'd like to have 7 different sets, not
    the 23 sets plus, of course, first and second series' and various
    inserts (fanimation, gold, silver, gridiron stars......).  It's abit
    much for me.  Even cut down by 1/3 would be great!  
    
    Anyway, watch out for the Chargers this year......;-)
    
    Live from Charger central.......Glenn
556.12Nyak... Nyak...STUDIO::GUTIERREZCitizen of the CosmosWed Jun 16 1993 12:4514
                 
    	I didn't know where to put the following, so if the Moderator
    	wants to move it or delete it's fine with me.  Since this note
    	has the word "dead" I thought it would be appropriate to place
    	it here...
    
    		EXTRA !!!   EXTRA !!!
    
        The Red Sox have announced a major trade that they think will solve
    	their problems.  They just announced this morning a trade of their
    	team physician Pappas (sp?) for John Kavorkian (sp?), the suicide
    	doctor...