Conference school::sports_memorabilia

    
    Here in Albq. the Pinnacle football is very popular, the bb will
    be very hot I'm sure. Any info on price , packaging, or availability?
    
    
    Jim

    
    The latest SCD (pg 99) has boxes at $52

    
    I understand that there will be 2 series of Pinn., anyone else heard
    this?
    
    
    Jim

    
    Yes, I've heard that also.  Hopefully in one box you'll get close to
    set, but the hockey and football sets were tough completing. There's
    more cards in the baseball boxes though - 576 per box.
    
    John

    
    The boxes out now say right on them "Series 1".  One dealer at a show
    I went to sunday said the collation was pretty good on the 4 boxes he
    broke down.  He like the collation, commenting that the baseball and
    hockey was pretty good, but the football collation was lousy.  Of
    course the collation probably varies alot from box to box.
    
    jeff
    

    
    Score's intention is definitely to release 2 series, and I wouldn't
    be surprised if there was an update set.  But I'm a cynic.  They
    announced it as 2 series.
    
    Saw these last weekend at a show for $41-45/box, but two shows since
    have seen prices more like $50-60 (majority being $55-60).
    
    Retail stores have already recieved some.  How do I know?  I was at
    Toys R Us recently, and I found a box in the back of the store,
    among some other things -- all the packages had been ripped open.
    
    (They wouldn't give me the box, or sell it to me for a discounted
     price either).
    
    I imagine they were looking for particular cards, maybe even the
    team Pinnacle cards.
    
    Speaking of which.  I saw the TP card of Ivan Rodriguez priced at
    $35 the other night.  I pity the people who try and complete that
    set -- it's worse than the award winners and tony gwynn cards from
    ultra.
    
    Even though Beckett's has the Hockey "B" cards at around $8-15 (for
    most of them), dealers are definitely holding on to them, or
    charging way above book for them.
    
    Good luck guys.  Thankfully they did Pinnacle FB right -- even if the
    decollation stunk.

    BTW,
    
    A friend on mine bought a box and made a set out it it.
    
    From a sample size of one, sounds like the decollation in the baseball
    is better than the FB or hockey.
    
    Anyone else had any experiences with putting a set together?
    
    Regards,
    Denny

    I just bought a couple of packs to see what they looked like and was
    satisfied with them. There the same as Football and hockey,a real nice
    looking card. I bought the last packs in the box for $1.75 ea. and I
    got a gold card,#10 of 12. On the front side is Ruben Sierra,and on the
    back is Dave Justice.Their names appear over the gold bar on the
    bottom,does anyone have any of these,and who are the players that are 
    on these cards?
    
    John M.
    
     
    

	Sounds like you got a good one.  I saw one at a show (#3) and it
	had John Franco on one side and someone else that I wasn't overly
	impressed with on the other.

	Ric

    I opened a box and a half and got not a one!(gold) I also am very
    disapointed at Score's quality control alot of the cards had
    surface scratches in the lower left corner or were bent on one 
    corner. I don't like to be a complainer but for a 1st run on
    premier cards I would think quality control would be looked at
    carefully. One good thing was I got 1 full set and almost
    completed another from 1 box.

    I opened one box last night and also didn't get any of the (gold)
    double sided cards. I'm about 29 cards short of a set, on one of
    the wappers it memtion that there's a 1 out of 125 chance of getting
    a gold card so I guess I missed my chance of getting one.
    
    Miguel

    Don't you know that I bought 15 packs last night,and I left 7 packs
    in the box,this little boy buys one of those packs and got lucky,he 
    got the Frank Thomas gold card,how did I know that this kid was going
    to get this card,I stood right there and watched him open it knowing 
    that there had to be something there because I didn't buy them all.
    
    John M.
    

Anyone got an extra Nolan Ryan?

Costco in Nashua is selling Pinnacle for 46.00/box or thereabouts.
(It might be 48.00 - fuzzy memory)

They have several cases on display and there is evidently no limit.

K.

    
    Came into a cello box this weekend. $2.99 per pack, 24 packs per box,
    27 cards per pack. Each pack contains 3 team 2000 cards. Very nice
    cards with gold left hand and bottom borders, but they don't have the 
    glossy finish of the regular issue pinnacle cards. I suppose these are
    the equivalent of the impact players found in the regular issue score.
    This first series includes players who score thinks will be around in
    the year 2000? 
    Check list from memory:
    	Mussina
    	Thomas
    	Plantier
    	Knoblauch
    	Grissom
    	Deshields
    	Walker
    	Nagy
    	DeSarcina
    	I Rodriguez
    	Guzman
    	Gonsalez
    	Hollins
    	
    Well, you get the picture. An 80 card set (40 series 1, and 40 series
    2). A nice group of rookies (youngsters) on a pretty good looking card. 
    
    I'd say If you can find the Thomas for $5 or less and Mussina, Thome,
    Bagwell, Gonzales, Rodriguez and Guzman's for $3-$4 or less you'll
    be in the ballpark. Don't forget the impact player Thomas is $4 and
    plentifull.

    I saw a guy trying to get $15 for Thomas at a show yesterday.  Couldn't
    believe some of those prices.  Gee, maybe I should sell my extra one
    for $10...
    
    Anyone see these for less than $3 anywhere?
    
    -Walt
    

    
    I've seen dealers(2) selling the series 1 team 2000 set for $60
    	Thomas $12
    	Mussina and Guzman $8
    	Justice Gonzales Knoblauch Bagwell and Rodriguez $4-$6
    
    
    Jim

    
    The new Beckett has the set at $27
    Thomas $6
    

    
    Series II is out, it contains a set of 18 rookies. This dealer had 
    18 of 18 listed at $25, I can't remember who it was, I guess he
    couldn't of been too memorable.
    
    
    Jim

    Reply .-1
    
    These 18 rookies are an insert set, like the Team Pinnacle cards from
    Series I?  Or just a subset of the regular set?
    
    Regards,
    Denny
    

    
    Inserts Denny, just like Team Pinnacle in series I. As a matter of 
    fact the pack state the same odds, 1:125.
    
    Jim

    
    18 0f 18 is Derek Bell, his idol is Winfield

    
    Anyone have a current Beckett's handy?
    
    I just opened a box of Series II last night and got a Rookies Idol
    card:  Mercedes (sp?) who's idol is Franco.
    
    Anyone know what this card is worth low/high?
    
    Regards,
    Denny
    

    
    Score has begun its Upper Deck imitation, packaging two different
    kinds of Super (jumbo) Packs.  There is regular Super Packs for
    series 2 with 3 Team 2000 cards in the range of 41-80.  Also there
    are specially marked SuperPacks which also contain one SlugFest card
    per pack in addition to the 3 Team 2000 cards.  not sure what the
    suggested retail is but you can be sure they effectively killed
    the regular SuperPacks with these SlugFest version.  The $2.99
    SRP is stickered over on the SlugFest packs.
    
    SlugFest is a 15 card insert set of the top sluggers, all horizontal
    shots of the players in various stages of swinging the bat.  I like
    the Cecil best, it has the ball coming in as he is swinging.
    Here's a partial checklist:
    
    	1 - Cecil Fielder	2 - 			3 - Jose Canseco
    	4 - 			5 - David Justice	6 - 
    	7 - Ken griffey		8 - Ron Gant		9 - Ryne Sandberg
       10 - 		       11 - Frank Thomas       12 -
       13 - Kirby Puckett      14 - Cal Ripken	       15 - Jeff Bagwell
    

    You can sure tell that Score printed a lot of these cards.  If they
    need to do jumbos and super jumbos, they have a lot of cards to move.
    
    It's a shame they have to "flood" the market this way.  I really liked
    this set, too.
    
    Regards,
    

    Anyone have a November Beckett's yet?  Are Slugfest cards listed in
    there?
    

    From the November 1992 Beckett's:

    1992 Pinnacle Slugfest

    Complete Set (15)		$12.00		$20.00
    Common Player (1-15)	   .40		$ 1.00
    One Per Slugfest Jumbo Pack

     1 Cecil Fielder		   .50		$ 1.25
     2 Mark McGwire		$ 1.00		$ 2.00
     3 Jose Canseco		$ 1.00		$ 2.00
     4 Barry Bonds		   .60		$ 1.50
     5 Dave Justice             $ 1.00		$ 2.00
     6 Bobby Bonilla               .40          $ 1.00
     7 Ken Griffey Jr.          $ 2.00          $ 4.00
     8 Ron Gant                    .40          $ 1.00
     9 Ryne Sandberg            $ 1.00          $ 2.00
    10 Ruben Sierra                .60          $ 1.50
    11 Frank Thomas             $ 2.50          $ 5.00
    12 Will Clark               $ 1.00          $ 2.00
    13 Kirby Puckett            $ 1.00          $ 2.00
    14 Cal Ripken               $ 1.25          $ 2.50
    15 Jeff Bagwell             $ 1.00          $ 2.00

    John

    Thanks...
    
    Gee, that seems low to me... 

    Isn't there one per pack ? Most dealers seem  to  hold back anyway if
    they feel something is too low. I know most won't even sell something
    unless there's a price guide out on it.
    
    Buyer - "How much for that card there ?"
    
    Dealer - "I can't sell it yet. Beckett's doesn't have a price so I
              could be giving you a 500$ card and I could miss out
              sending my kids to Harvard down the road"
    
    Buyer - "How come you've got that card priced so high"
    
    Dealer - "It's a real rare card and Beckett's is priced too low"
    
    John

    True, but they (from what I've heard) are only around if you buy from 
    Sam's.  No one else got these packs.  Maybe Sam's does a LOT more
    volume than I gave them credit for.  What are the Team 2000 cards
    going for?  There are 3 of those in each jumbo and they're in ALL
    jumbos...

    I didn't hear that about only Sam's having them. Sam's must've paid
    Score some bucks to do this insert only for them.
    
    John

    That's the rumor I've heard.  Haven't seen them at show except at one
    dealer who said that that's where he got them from...
    

    
    I've also heard the same story, but not just Sam's, it's supposedly
    a Sam's and WalMart exclusive.  Only WalMart Corp. got the jumbo
    Pinnacle with SlugFest.  
    
    I'm a bit curious as to what Beckett knows that we don't.  A very small
    supply came and went to Sam's and Wal-Mart, if hat's all there is
    then you would expect the prices to be higher, at least equivalent
    to other recent subsets.  Thomas at $5 doesn't compare to Best Hitter
    Thomas @ $16, ultra all-star Thomas @ $20, etc.  Yes it is one
    SlugFest per pack, but that in itself doesn't explain the low prices.
    
    Either the SlugFests will rise for the next couple months because there
    really aren't that many of them out there or Dr. James is trying to
    tell us that Score really printed tons of these SlugFest cards and that
    perhaps they are going to show up in quantity, maybe in some other package.
    
    Score isn't the only one to print jumbo packs just for Wal-Mart.  I
    have also seen 1992 NFL Wildcard series 1 jumbos at Wal-Mart.  It was
    20 cards or so for $2.79/each and on the outside it states that in
    every pack you are guarenteed a WildCard Suprise card plus a special
    insert.  It made me curious enough to buy one pack, sure enough I
    got the suprise card #1, plus one of a six card insert set.  The
    card was of John Elway, it looked exactly like the other WildCard
    singles except for the football swirl in the lower left hand corner.
    It was numbered 2 of 6 or 3 of 6.  Pretty cheesey.  Attention
    Wal-Mart shoppers, another exclusive...