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Title:Sports Memorabilia
Notice:Wanted: 3.*; For_sale: 4.*; Traded: 5.*
Moderator:SCHOOL::KOPACKO
Created:Wed Aug 27 1986
Last Modified:Thu May 08 1997
Last Successful Update:Fri Jun 06 1997
Number of topics:730
Total number of notes:8547

308.0. "reprint sets" by POLAR::FERGUSONR (PROFESSORI) Tue Sep 10 1991 15:02


This note is intended for discussion of reprint sets 
and retrospective type sets;

IT IS NOT INTENDED FOR DISCUSSION OF COUNTERFEIT CARDS


(By retrospective I mean things like the SWELL Baseball Greats, the set on the 
old Negro League, etc....)


REPRINTS-

There are quite a few reprint sets available.  
To name a few (with recently U.S. advertised prices);


1880 old judge                     $5.95

1887 lone jack                      5.95

1888 allan & ginter                 5.95

1895 Mayo cut plug                  5.00

1910 t-205 (208 cards)             29.95

1910 t-206 (523 cards)             39.95 to 49.95

1911 mecca t-201                   14.95

1913 t-200 team cards               6.95

1915 amer. caramel (200 cards)     19.95 (incl's Ruth's RC)

1933 goudey                        39.95
    
1948 SWELL sports thrills (20)      5.95

1948 Bowman (48 cards)              6.95

1949 "    " (240 cards)            26.95

1949 "     " PCL (36)               6.95

1951 "     "  (324 cards)          39.95 (Mantle & Mays RC)

1952 Red Man Tobacco               19.95

1934-36 Diamond Stars (100 cards)  14.95

1935 Nat. Chicle (FB) (36 Cards)    7.95

1954 Red Heart Mantle series (11)   4.95

RETROSPECTIVES-


Larry Fritsch "Negro League" (111 cards) 9.95


I've recently noticed locally (Ottawa, Ont., CDA) a couple of reprints of early 
or more correctly pre-NHL hockey sets. The originals being from 1910-1915. BTW-
from a counterfeiting perspective these cards are beautiful copy of the 
originals-I've seen both.


A few questions;

1. Anybody out admit to owning any of them?

Assuming someone fesses up-

-what do you have?

-what ones do you like and why?

-what ones don't you like and why?

-what ones do you reccommend and why?

2. What is the investment potential of any of these? (and why)


I would think that the reprints of the Chicle FB, the 1948 & 49 Bowman's and the
T-206 to name a few would likely be worthwhile to have. I wouldn't see them 
    ever climbing 10% annually or anything like that, but I think they would 
    tend to hold or apreciate mildly due to their historical value.

What do you think????


Here's hoping to generate some discussion...



The Prof.

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308.3value of 52topps reprint?TRACTR::STGELAISTue Sep 10 1991 18:477
    
    I have the 1952 Topps Reprint set, that I bought a few years back. 
    Could someone tell me the value of this set if you know, I would
    appreciate any expert advice.
              
                       Regards,
                         Don
308.4CERBUS::KARLSONOnly 106 shopping days until Xmas!Tue Sep 10 1991 20:0714
    
    I've seen prices (for-sale prices) ranging from $150-300.
    
    Usually the ads state that they have sets for sale (seal intact)
    for around $50 more.
    
    The $300 is a high, and the majority of the ads seem to be
    between $150-200.
    
    There are only 10,000 of them, and I see more '84F Update,
    '84T USFL, etc., sets for sale more often than I see this set
    for sale.
    
    -rjk
308.5There the next best thing.IAMOK::GASPARONIWed Sep 11 1991 15:5014
    I also like the Reprint Sets.  Like John said, its the next best thing
    to owning the real thing, without having the home equity loan to pay
    each month.
    
    I own the 52 Topps Reprint set, and have accumulated most of all the
    Mickey Mantle Reprint cards over the years.  They are in most cases
    better quality than the original, but maybe thats what makes the
    original that more expensive, that older worn-out look.  
    
    The new Sporting News Conlon Set is great if you like to read and look
    at the older players.  Some of there stats aren't that bad, and these
    guys were pretty good size too!
    
    Anyway, I like them, and would recommend them if the price is right.
308.6continued...POLAR::FERGUSONRPROFESSORIWed Sep 11 1991 18:4251

RE: .01

1. re:reprints/retrospectives -I wasn't really aware of the Conlon 
Sporting News Collection. Tell me about it. (I assume it's a retrospective??)

2. re:Rheal Cormier - Sorry, Never heard of him. Read my intro 2.107 
                      and you'll understand why.


RE: .02

I didn't really notice another note dedicated to reprints which is why 
i started this one. If there is, the moderator can feel free to move it.

-Curious- why can't the '52 Topps be reprinted?

-Generally, I wouldn't think these things would escalate much over 
 the years either. However, if reprints are well done and cover important 
 original sets (I would think that the T-206, 48 & 49 Bowman and the Nat. 
 Chicle sets would be considered important) they should hold their value and
 experience modest long term growth?


RE: 1948 Sport Thrills

1. Was that by the Swell gum company out of Phily? (The company that been 
putting out the Swell Sports Greats sets for about 3 years now)

2. Why don't you like it?


RE: Reccommendations-

Has anyone in here seen the National Chicle (FB)& the Negro League (BB) sets.

I'm thinking about getting them and the T-206. I haven't seen anyone up here 
that carries them and I'd hate to order them sight unseen, especially since the
T-206 is at least $40.U.S.

Regards,

R.M.F.
(the above was entered before reading reply .5)
     





308.7CERBUS::KARLSONOnly 105 shopping days until Xmas!Wed Sep 11 1991 19:3520
    
    The '52 Topps reprint set can't be reprinted, because Topps made
    it a limited edition -- 10,000 sets only.
    
    I imagine they could go ahead and reprint it, but it's unlikely.
    
    The thing looked like a dog, ran like a dog, and sold like a dog.
    But that dog was wearing a golden collar, and Topps ain't
    figured it out yet.
    
    
    The T-206 is incredible.  As is the T-205 set.  There are two
    versions of the T-206 set.  One is usually sold for around $20
    -- the 523 (or is it 513) card version.  The other sells for
    more and has 524 (or is it 514) cards.  Don't ask me which is the
    extra card because I don't know.  Occasionally QVC or HSC has this
    set for sale, and it's the set that's SHORT one card.  Keep this in
    mind.
    
    -rjk
308.9Set me straight?IAMOK::GASPARONIMon Sep 16 1991 15:2810
    I was talking to a dealer at a local show(Westboro) and he was feeding
    me some information on cards and how a Magazine can create cards
    without the Stars permission.  As long as it is attached to a full
    sheet of paper, like the Tuff Stuff Jr. Magazine, they dont need
    permission from the player.  But if its a seperate card, or perforated,
    then permission must be rec'd prior to the production.  Does anyone
    else out there know if this makes sense??  As I understand, The Wall
    St. Journal has come out with a little booklet of players, where you
    can tear out the picture and make a postcard out of it.  Anybody else
    seen these cards??
308.10Cracker Jack Reprints (1914-1915)?CHIPS::CHOYTue Sep 17 1991 15:385
    Has anyone seen or purchased the Cracker Jack reprint set(s)?  I've
    seen these for sale in ad with the other reprint sets such as the T205,
    T206.  I'd like to pick the Cracker Jack set one of these days since
    commons seem to go for $150+ in NrMT condition.  The set would require
    a mortgage...unless I could sell $5.8M worth of stock first.
308.11ISLNDS::YANNEKISWed Apr 28 1993 19:127
    
>    Has anyone seen or purchased the Cracker Jack reprint set(s)?  I've
    
    Late answer ... I have one (and like it a lot) ... see note 77 for address
    
    Greg
    
308.12FUTURE::JST_ONGEJohn St.Onge USDSL DTN 275-2715Wed Apr 28 1993 21:405
    The Cracker Jack set is one of the few reprints sets I never picked
    up. I believe there are two sets 1914 and 1915.  Looks nice though,
    but then they usually do a decent job on these anyway.
    
    John
308.13LUNER::FIRMANIMon Aug 23 1993 12:2911
    
    I was thinking about ordering the T206 set and I was wondering if there
    was anyone else out there interested in this set. The set is selling
    for $49.99/set, but if you buy 5 sets the price was either $30 or $35.
    I would have to call to get the exact price, so if anyone is interested
    just send me mail at LUNER::FIRMANI.
    
    Thanks,
    
    Mike