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    I paid $2.75 for a pack.  Nice cards.  Looks like a lot smaller set.
    (Around 150-175 or so?)  I just bought the one and got Peete and
    Sanders, so unless I see the price drop, I'm happy.  Small insignia
    in bottom right corner with no border around the card.

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    John,consider yourself lucky at $45.00.
    
                          John M
    

    
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    John,
    	I think eventually we will be seeing sticktly the premium sets,
    it's going to take a few years to phase into that though. My feeling
    is that the costs to produce these will drop because the volume
    will grow. The volume will grow because the distribution will be
    better, we will see more and more card quantity at Kmart ect. the
    collector will be happy and the price might even drop.
    
    Jim

    
    Not to be a stick in the mud Jim, but I agree with John.  I
    don't think the price(s) to produce these sets is any more
    significant than it takes for the normal sets.
    
    These cards are very similar to the Topps "Rookie" cards they
    put in jumbo packs each year, and offer through send-aways, both
    in quality (nice card stock, high gloss, etc.), and quantity.
    
    Hell, yoy can usually get the Topps Tiffany sets for a lot less
    than TSC is going for, and they are in FAR fewer quantities.
    

    
    Well guys there is probably no sense in debating this into a rat-hole,
    so let's agree to disagree on the costs of setting up and implementing
    a completly different and more involved state of the art process.
    	By the way has anyone seen these cards at any of the retailers
    yet? 
    
    Jim
    
    

    
    Well Jim, it was Pro Set president Lud Denny who said that they
    can design a card, and begin printing it within an hour.
    
    They have their own presses, and don't work through a middle-man
    printer.
    
    They also do Hopps cards, and I've been told that they do Impel's
    cards too (althought, I like the quality of Impel and Hoops much
    more than any product ProSet's put out).
    
    -rjk

    
    
    	Mike, what is GAG ?.

    
    Gag.  Ack.  Throw-up.  Make me sick.  Toss lunch.  Blow chow.
    Projectile vomiting.  Get the picture yet?  8^)
    
    I called Smokey's in Vegas the other day.  They're BUY price is
    700$/case ($35/box).
    
    Anyone want to guess what their sell price is?  C'mon take a wild
    guess.  This is for either football or hockey ...
    
    Okay, I'll hide it behind a form-feed for those faint of heart:
    
    
    
    $125.00 /box (yes, one-hundred-twenty-five dollars PER box)

    
    
    	Oh, sorry about that, I thought it was one of those terms used
    	by dealers like FOB (Freight on Delivery).

    I was able to get the 5 Chargers out of this for .25 each.  They look
    real nice.  I like Upper Deck football the best tho.
    
    Live from Charger Central.......Glenn

    
    Well guys, they're out there.
    
    About 1/2 of the dealers at the "Joe D" show this weekend had
    them.
    
    Prices ranged from $55-70/box (one dealer had $100/2 boxes).
    
    This is the first weekend they were out there in "quantity" at
    a show, that I've seen.
    
    I think the price will drop a little more -- maybe even close to
    Fleer Ultra prices ($30-40).
    
    John and I fell two cards shy of two sets out of one box.  Two of
    you can likely get a set of these for a very reasonable price if
    you shop around.
    
    I'd definitely look for them far below what some of the bigger and
    local dealers are selling them for.
    
    -rjk

    I saw them at Store 24,and the price is $1.99 a pack.I talked to 
    the girl that works there and she said that there will be more 
    for that store..
    
       JM
     

    
    Well, I saw these cards at two seperate show in southern nh today
    for $39 and $40 per box.  I picked one up and like roy and John was
    two cards short of two complete sets.  Hard to tell whether this is
    just a dip in prices or perhaps they will go even lower.  Don't pay
    more than $1.50/pack or $50/box at this point, shop around because
    in general football is pretty dead (at least in the new england area).
    
    Other dealers at the shows were holding at $50 and above, but only
    the guys at $40 were selling any.
    
    jeff
    

    I got a bunch at $1/pack last night.... probably should have bought
    more, but only wanted one set...

    
    Series II is out for you football die hards.  I picked up a box for
    $29 at the clemens show in nh last sunday.  175 cards in this second
    series (150 in series I), with PC-1 thru PC-10 extras also.  Haven't
    finished collating the box yet, I'll post the results when I do, but
    seeing as it is 175 cards, getting 2 sets plus a 3rd partial like
    series 1, probably won't be as easy.
    
    Some names in series II:  Dan McGwire, Russell Maryland, PC cards
    that I have run across so far include ones of Barry Sanders & Thurman
    Thomas.
    
    jeff
    

    
    I knew they'd do it, but I was hoping they'd print series II before
    some head idjit at ProSet said "hey, let's throw some PC cards into
    our Platinum Football too" ...
    
    You know.  I'd limit myself to any company's cards who doesn't stoop
    to gimmicks and BS to sell their cards, but then I'd be stuck
    collecting Barbie and Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtle cards with The
    Saint!
    
    -rjk

    What are the Thomas and Sanders cards?  Weren't they in the 1st set?
    

    
    I think they were PC cards Walt (in series II).
    
    -rjk

    
    Breakdown on a series II box:
    
    1 complete set of regular numbers 151-315, plus the following PCs of
    the 10 that comprise the remaining cards in the 175 card series II:
    
    	PC-1 Bobby Hebert  "Platinum Profile"
    	PC-2 Ark Monk (all hail) "Platinum Profile"
    	PC-3 Kenny Walker "Platinum Profile"
    	PC-8 Barry Sanders "Platinum Game Breaker"
    	PC-9 Emmitt Smith "Platinum Game Breaker"
    	PC-10 Thurman Thomas "Platinum Game Breaker"
    
    7 cards short of a second 151-315 set, 105 towards a third set of
    151-315 and 3 quadruples.  All in all pretty good distribution again
    for this series.
    
    jeff