Conference school::sports_memorabilia

Osco drug currently has all Donruss, Topps and Score cards on 
sale 3 packs for a buck with a 1 box limit.

daryll

    
    I can only comment on Topps seeing they are the only cards I collect,
    although I bought 2 packs of Donruss for the heck of it and kinda
    like the looks of them (I got a Giamotti, can be had).  As for Topps,
    I have to admit I was dissapointed.  I don't know what they were
    thinking making them so colorful.  I like the old days when the
    cards were plain and simple.  The stock they use seems extremely
    thin, allowing them to bend easily, or peal appart when you browse
    through them.  And lastly, WHEN will they put that stupid insert
    card on the bottom, I bought a box and every card on the bottom
    of the pack was stained, including the only Griffey Jr. I got.
    I have bought far less than I usually do as a result.  I may just buy
    the set from the factory and to hell with the wax packs.
    
    One thing I like about Topps over the others, Topps has the players
    entire career stats on the back, not just "Recent Performance".  I like
    looking over what a player has done who has been around a while. 
    Ya know?
    
    Pat.

    Anyone see the new Topps Magazine yet, with the 6 player cards inside
    the magazine??  Think there is any investment potential in these
    cards??

    
    I talked to one of the Managers at B.J.'s,and he told me that he
    has a big back order for Fleer,Donruss,and Topps boxes (36 count)
    that should be in this month (MARCH).The price will be $12.98 per.
    I will be checking this out everyday and will up date this note
    for those of you who are concerned. By the way,they have a limit
    of 10 per customer. this is a great deal for the little kids to
    go up there with their allowance,I happened to hear acouple of boys
    age 11 to 13 say that this was a great deal,and instead of paying any
    ways from $.50 to $.60 per pack,there paying $.35 and there not being
    ripped off. 
    
    Eat your heart out DEALERS !
    
    
    
    
    
    
    

    
    The JC Penney Outlet store in Billerica, MA currently has the 1988
    Topps Traded sets for $9.99 (limit of 6 per customer).  Since I'm
    just getting into this with my son, is this a good deal?
    
    	Steve

    Would anyone like to get me a couple and hold on to them? I'll be in 
    Bedford Monday.
    
    John D.
    

    RE: .7
    
    Baseball Card News had a similar article. They blamed Score for
    "rationing" the earlier shipments, and then "dumping" the remaining
    stock at the end of the year. 
    
    Had I spent the $55.00, I'd be upset. By rationing the stuff, they gave
    the dealers an excuse to raise prices, touting the "scarcity" of the
    product. By dumping it, they gave us a hard lesson in economics, i.e.
    don't buy into hysteria and hype. All the companies print these cards
    in the billions, and the term scarce doen't come close to applying.
    1961 high numbers, maybe, but current sets, never. Like the 1989 U.D.
    set, I wanted this one. But buying it wasn't in the equation, until I
    saw it for $16.00. The same thing happened to the first U.D. set,
    starting out high and then dropping a bit. 
    
    John St. Onge's observation is valid, why buy in the pre-season when
    speculation runs high, when you're likely to get a better deal in the
    off-season when the truth is a little more readily available?
    
    John D.
     

    
      One thing about good hindsight is that everyone has it. I am trying 
    to work on better foresight, But I still seem to be blind. I need the 
    latest stuff to keep up, but I tend to agree with John.. Rare is what
    will live through a tight economy sell off. I will continue to buy
    new, but other than buying stars, I will wait til years end to buy
    sets. I will only buy wax when I need the thrill. Why should I buy
    Score wax next year? They will only come out with a set at years end
    that will have cards I can't get elsewhere in them. Might as well
    wait. While I am at it I might as well wait for the prices to drop
    on them as well........How's that for a New Years resolution?
    
      WHAT!! broke your resolution already! It's only Dec 31st.

    re:- .7
    
    I think that that was the same issue that I picked up yesterday. And
    that opinion was just the opinion of that one writer not SCD.
    
    If you go into to card collecting to make money...hey its like buying
    stocks from a broker, you takes your chances. If the prices go up when
    you bought low, then everything is fine. If you buy high and the prices
    go low everyone bitches.
    
    I think a lot of the blame should go with the investors. I've given up
    blaming the dealers. If I think a price is too high I don't buy, I'll
    go somewhere else, and I may not buy there either. I've made up my
    mind-"I COLLECT BECAUSE I ENJOY IT". When I give my cards to my kid, he
    can worry about prices.
    
    
    
    
    
    enjoy                                        -pj-

    re: .12, et al
    
    Every issue of Beckett's has a price survey.  In the latest issue it's
    near the back of the book.  Beckett claims that all prices are
    collated, the high and low thrown out and then averaged.  They try to
    appeal to the subscriber as well as the dealer.  They offer free 6
    month subscriptions.
    
    I guess the dealers who respond, tell them what price they sell their
    stuff for.  Probably Beckett's high.  The collector should use this
    survey to tell Beckett what price they would buy a card for.  Probably
    Beckett's low.  When averaged out we should have different prices. 
    It's our fault (meaning collectors) if we let dealers control the
    prices.
    
    joe- who is a part time dealer and full time collector

    Re: .12
    
    Your last paragraph...yea, right on.
    But you won't be held to it, ....and neither will I.
    
    
    
    
    
                               -pj-

    
    John, We all invest, you included, I have to if I ever hope to get 
    some of the older cards I want. I would need a bunch of my cards to
    go up, so that I could swing a deal on that Ryan rookie card that
    would complete my collection. I don't stand a ghost of a chance of 
    it otherwise. My allowance is to small. Buy cheap now and lots
    of it, hope it goes up then trade large amount to get one card you
    would love to own or do the alternative, save forever and don't get
    to enjoy the hobby while waiting.

    
      Good points. One of the reasons I come here for advice.
    I guess my thinking was, If you bought 10 cards at, lets say as
    much as $1.00 and the guy was hot and became a Henderson, The card
    would have demand and go to $100 within a couple of years. That is
    quite a percentage. The cards could then be used to buy older stuff.
    If the Ryan went up at the same rate, then only the very rich could
    ever afford to buy one. In other words if both appreciated $100, I
    could almost afford the Ryan if I sold off the 10 cards. Total
    investment= $10 verses going out today and buying a Ryan, say at
    $1000. See my thinking? Am I way off base? 

    
    Two sides to the coin I guess. I love speculation though aand can't
    resist the thrill gambling does to me. Take the lottery for example,
    I wouldn't buy a ticket if I really thought about the odds of winning.
    It's the thrill that there is still that chance. Two examples of
    Speculation. I bought wax in 89 and accumulated about 10 Ken Griffey
    Jr. rookies and this year after a conversation with another guy
    speculating...I went shoping for Frank Thomas, Dave Justice And Cecil
    Fielder rookies. I bought most of the Fleer and Donruss Fielder rookies
    That I have for less than a buck and I think he's good for a couple of
    more years. I won't tell you how many Thomas's and Justice cards I 
    have, but let's just say, I wish them very well. If they turn belly
    up on me then I don't lose more than $20 or $30  on each. 
     I agree with you that I wouldn't go out and spend $$$ for a bunch
    of Cansuco's cards and try to speculate on them. :>)
    
       The things I enjoy most in this hobby are.
    
         1. speculating and finding yourself correct
        
         2. Building a nice collection.
    
         3. Finding that bargain (forgetting how much you spent foolishly
            before) This weekend Skybox .$50 a pack. Hoops 89 Robinson
            $13 Mt. (at podium)
         
         4. opening wax and finding that super star for the price of wax.
    

    

    
      I guess that I would have to be honest in this case and say both.
    Don't you ever gamble once in a while and buy an older wax pack,
    not for the favorite player, but for the fact that their might be
    a valuable card in it? It's another form of gambleing. The odds are
    high against you and you expect to lose, but when you do get the 
    $$$ card, the thrill is unbelievable.
      I can't live in the past and cards are marked by $$$$ today. It won't
    change. I am not dealing and am not looking to make a killing. I just
    want to own all the cards in the world. :>):>):>) I guess that I would
    raise my eyebrow to that guy who tells me that he is only looking for
    that favorite 'cause I know he's lying in most cases. If he's only
    looking for his favorites, he should give me the stars. Do you do
    this? If so when are we going to our next show together???:>):>)

    
     John, that paragraph was only meant to tease you. I know what you 
    collect. REmember I have seen you at a couple of shows. Did you get my
    mail? Want that hologram? Get out that old metal detector and head over 
    to B.J.'s in Westboro Mass. Last time I was there they had tons of
    boxes to go through.:>)
     BTW I don't have any facts to back this up with, but I heard that
    Topps is going to put a special Hologram on their redemption
    Certificates so that they can't be forged. Is this true?? If so then
    people will be lining up with their metal detectors again. 
     Other things overheard this week. 
    
           1. Upper Deck Hockey due out....TODAY 11/20
    
           2. Upper Deck Baseball due out Dec 15
    Great American Baseball Card store offering preorders at $33 for 1-5
    boxes for the Baseball.