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Name | Date | Lines |
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| 605.1 | If you liked Ultima I, it's a good game! | EVETPU::WALSH | TPU knows... RISC/Ultrix! | Fri Mar 01 1991 14:19 | 22 |
| It's a nice departure from the usual hack'n'slash game. You have to
become an avatar of goodness, which means that you can't lie, cheat or
steal without causing yourself grief. (It's really a pain if you do!
I know - I had to re-earn my avatar status once or twice because I got
stuck.)
It's the same combat and dungeon system as the original Ultima. If you
like reflex battles like in Link, give this one a pass. If you aren't
worried so much about that, the layout of the dungeons is a bit more
interesting, since they are all connected together.
I'm currently trying to turn my three keys into the single key needed
to open the gates for the final dungeon. It's taken a LOOOOOOOOOOOONG
time to get this far!
- Chris
Oh, still reading? Yep - here's a hint:
Don't wander around with a party. Why share the experience points, and
spend the money to get equipment for all those characters? Leave 'em
at the hostel, and advance as quickly as possible.
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| 605.2 | How do the enemys appear??? | POETS::SCHNARE | CHARLIE SCHNARE | Fri Mar 01 1991 20:32 | 6 |
| In the first Ultima when you raise you experience level a couple of
times the enemys outside get a lot harder. Does the same apply here. Or
do the enemies get harder as you go into different lands.
Are there even enemies wandering around outside. If not is is like
dragon warrior or final fantasy??
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| 605.3 | Missile weapons | DDIF::WALSH | TPU knows... RISC/Ultrix! | Sun Mar 03 1991 16:40 | 18 |
| Monster encounters are more like DW than the first Ultima. You don't
see the enemy wandering around. You just happen to be walking around,
and something jumps you. If you see them coming, they're at the top of
the screen, and you're at the bottom, and it looks just like Ultima I.
If you didn't see them coming, the monsters start out right next to
you, and things get a bit more interesting.
I didn't find any of the wandering or dungeon dwelling monsters to be
that difficult to defeat, until at relatively high levels you start
running into large numbers of Balrogs or Reapers. Even they aren't all
*that* tough - it's just that they put you to sleep, so you get beat on
a bit more before you can wake up and kill them. If you aren't keeping
good care of your party, I suppose you could have trouble.
Get lots of missile weapons, as early as possible, and take out the
spell-throwing monsters first. That will keep you pretty safe.
- Chris
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| 605.4 | WHAT DID YOU PAY FOR IT??? | SUBSYS::SCHNARE | CHARLIE SCHNARE | Sun Mar 03 1991 19:56 | 9 |
|
I was looking around the other day to buy the game at KB toy store and
they told me that it runs for $59 when they have it in. How much dough
did you sacrifice to get this game?
Also do you have spells that eradicate a lot of enemies at once or are
they just meant for one monster. Like in ultima I you could use an
undead spell and kill a lot of guys. Are there certain spells that kill
alot of guys at once.
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| 605.5 | SQUISH, said the mage! | DDIF::WALSH | TPU knows... RISC/Ultrix! | Mon Mar 04 1991 15:38 | 25 |
| I found it just before Christmas at 54.95 in the Electronics Boutique
at the Upper Valley Mall in Springfield, Ohio. (That's the town where
my folks live.) It was obviously available as a fluke, and I bought
the last copy with no questions asked. I haven't regretted the price
yet - but I make no claims to being a representative Nintendo player,
so you may or may not find it worth the money.
There are spells that kill lots of creatures at once - no matter how
powerful they are. Trouble is, you may not have the ingredients that
you need to cast the spell, and you also need to determine some of the
recipes for some of the spells.
There are a wider variety of spells available, and you start off
knowing some pretty good ones. (Your character supposedly starts off
where he/she ended in Ultima I, so you are reasonably powerful at the
beginning.)
I repeat, if you liked Ultima I, you'll like The Avatar. If it didn't
appeal, I doubt you'll like this one any better. The same general
strategy applies - the better provisioned you are, the better chance
you have. Provisioning can take a long time - but at least in The
Avatar there are so many places that you have to go, that you can do
the requisite "monster bashing" on the way from place to place.
- Chris
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| 605.6 | Spells..Spells | XANADU::KREFETZ | | Fri Mar 08 1991 22:30 | 14 |
| For those of you who are having trouble getting tough spells, here are
some recipes.
Sleep: Ginseng, Silkweb
Reflect: Ash, Ginseng, Garlic, Fungus
Negate: Ash, Garlic, Pearl, Manroot
Destroy: Pearl, Fungus
Jinx: Pearl, Fungus, Manroot
Squish: Ash, Silkweb, Moss, Manroot
Gate Travel: Ash, Pearl, Manroot
Tremor: Ash, Moss, Manroot
Resurrect: Garlic, Moss, Fungus, Manroot
Benjamin
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| 605.7 | Please hide spoilers! | SPARTY::WALSH | TPU knows... RISC/Ultrix! | Mon Mar 11 1991 12:24 | 9 |
| I assume those are accurate, since I don't have my stuff to check it
out. I really wish such spoilers were hidden behind a form feed or
some empty lines.
You might consider deleting 605.6, and re-entering it with a formfeed
in the correct spot. Please feel free to contact me if you have any
troubles.
- Chris
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| 605.8 | Ratzenfratzin gates! | SPARTY::WALSH | TPU knows... RISC/Ultrix! | Mon Mar 11 1991 12:28 | 13 |
| Anyone very far in this game? I've been an avatar for a long time, but
I can't get the gates of the abyss to open.
As far as I can tell, I have all the important equipment. I'm wearing
the ankh sword and ankh armor, I have the bell, book and candle, and I
have all three keys. Using none of these has any effect when I go up
to the gatekeeper. All he says is "None shall pass." (I even went so
far as to say "Right, then!" and have at him. Killing the gatekeeper
only loses you your avatarhood.)
Anyone have any ideas? I've probably missed a clue somewhere, but just
don't have the heart to retrace my steps and talk to everyone in the
game again.
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| 605.9 | the abyss | BALBOA::ADAMS | | Wed Mar 13 1991 03:18 | 18 |
| How to open the gates of the abyss....
Nintendo Power, February 1991
"To enter the abyss, go to the entrance and use the bell, the book, and
the candle. The way to Avatarhood will be open to you!"
Don't know if this will help. But that was all it said. It also says
that you must have all the items and know about the Virtues and
Principles: both your knowledge and your strength will be tested.
Good Luck!
P.S. This is from my son, James
tricia
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| 605.10 | Still stuck | DDIF::WALSH | TPU knows... RISC/Ultrix! | Wed Mar 13 1991 12:53 | 14 |
| Hmmm. I think I've tried that.
There were three separate clues, each one saying that you need to use
one of the bell, book or candle to open the gates. I've got
everything, I think. Unless there's some kind of gee-whiz bow that I
don't know about - all my mage can use is a sling.
I go to the gates of the abyss, and use the bell, book and candle. (A
traditional magical combination.) But nothing happens. Is there a
particular order, or a particular spot where one does this?
I've been around and around on this one, and it's driving me nuts. Has
anyone actually made it into the abyss?
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| 605.11 | Ever play Zork? | BALBOA::ADAMS | | Thu Mar 14 1991 12:56 | 13 |
| We use to play a game on the Rainbow called ZORK. There was a
combination of a bell, book and candle that had to be used to open the
gates of Hell. There was a definate combination that the tools had to
be used.
In Zork: ring the bell, light the candle, then read the
book. In this game you stood right in front of the gate and did this.
Perhaps this is the combination.
James
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| 605.12 | | COMET::FARRINGTON | | Mon Mar 25 1991 16:39 | 6 |
| re .8
I finally did finish this game and .8 was looking in the wrong
place for the abyss. Let me know if you haven't already finished.
Greg
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| 605.13 | Cute ending, too! | DDIF::WALSH | TPU knows... RISC/Ultrix! | Tue Mar 26 1991 11:51 | 8 |
| Thanks so much for the pointer! Knowing where the abyss is, it only
took about an hour to defeat the maze and find the final tome.
I might have to play this again - just to see how fast it can be done
with a shephardess, and to figure out where I got the wrong idea about
where the abyss was.
- Chris
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| 605.14 | | MRCSSE::SWETT | | Tue May 28 1991 12:52 | 5 |
|
What about saveability? Password or battery?
tom
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| 605.15 | Up to the minute technology | EVETPU::WALSH | Follicularly challenged | Tue May 28 1991 14:58 | 3 |
| Battery.
- Chris
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| 605.16 | Anyone still playing Avatar? | SOLVIT::JAFFE | | Tue Mar 10 1992 16:21 | 4 |
| Is anyone else currently playing this game? I could use a few hints on
how and where to find some of the runes and stones.
Joel
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| 605.17 | Mostly complete dungeon map | TLE::REINIG | This too shall change | Mon May 18 1992 21:35 | 161 |
| Just finished, here's some information that may help, It's a map of
most of the dungeons, use 132 column mode. The map isn't complete
"."s in filled out dungeons indicate money. X indicates something
interesting.
Covetous
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F happy O +5 str O +5 str
F nada +5 int +5 int
Dastard
=======
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F nada
Deceit
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# # ### r# # # # ### ### .#####r# ##r##### #r### # ##r### # ###
# #r # # # # r r .# # #... U# #U# D# #
####r# # #### # # ## #r### .# %#### ####.#.# ### #### # ### #
F nada O +5 dex % ??? % room ? ??? X Blue
. treas F poison
. treas
Despise
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Hythloth
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O# # D# # U# F# # D#r D#D # #O U # rr# # #X# #
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# #D# # U# # #O D#D#U r# D#O U# U# # # D r U # #
## ### # ####### ##r### # ###### # ######## ## # ### # # # # ###### #
F poison O +10
O +10 +10
+10
Shame
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F# #X# r# #r#D# U# # # D# .#D U#.. # #U D #F r#
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# #B#D# #B#B# #B#B# #O#B#B% #B#B## .#B#B#.. ##UrU# U# X#
r# ##### ## ##### ####### # ##### ####### .#####.# ####### #### ###
r r # # #D #U r r F# #D # .#U#.... r# ##X
#### # # # # # # ## ### # ##### # #r#### # .# #.#.# ######## #### ###
O +5 dex O +5 dex
Wrong
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truth | love |courage|
-------------+-------+-------+-------+
Honesty | xxx | --- | --- | Blue
-------------+-------+-------+-------+
Compassion | --- | xxx | --- |
-------------+-------+-------+-------+
Valor | --- | --- | xxx | Red
-------------+-------+-------+-------+
Justice | xxx | xxx | --- | Green
-------------+-------+-------+-------+
Sacrifice | --- | xxx | xxx | Orange
-------------+-------+-------+-------+
Honor | xxx | --- | xxx |
-------------+-------+-------+-------+
Spirituality | xxx | xxx | xxx | White
-------------+-------+-------+-------+
Humility | --- | --- | --- | Black
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