Conference rusure::nintendo

    Being a boxing fan, I purchased Punch Out the other day for the
    kids and myself.  The other night I thought I would just check
    and make sure the game was alright, (really!) so I sat down with
    a well prepared glass of Johnny Walker Red.  
    
    Now this game come on with a big guy twice the size of your boxer
    and expect you to beat up on this dud.  Well after getting my butt
    kick around several time, me and my JWR (scotch) decided we had
    enough of this #&*!@.

    I started jabbing with this guy, sticking and bouncing from side
    to side and punching this dud in the face until I hooked him and
    knock him out. I felt pretty good about that until I ran into the 
    second boxer.  He looks a lot like John L. Sullivan.  I punched 
    around with this guy until I got nearly drunk.  I found myself 
    actually cussing at tippy toes.  I couldn't waiting util the next 
    round started so I could get back in there and punch his lights
    out.
       
    I had to put the game back in the wrapping before my wife came in
    from work at 12 0'clock am.  When she came in, I could not hold
    it back from telling her how I enjoyed this game.  By this time
    my speech was pretty impaired but at least I'm not out there in
    the street drinking and driving.
                                    
    I can't wait until XMAS to so I came kick the second boxers butt.
    I think the game is pretty neat for someone who like boxing
    and for those who just plain like the Nintendo games.
                                    
    Have a good one,                
                                    
    Lonnie                          
                                    
                                    

    Lonnie,
    
    Sounds like the big challenge is keeping that game all wrapped up
    until XMAS.
    
    heh heh,
    
    Mike
    
    P.S. Now you got me wondering if I should get it for my son!!!
    

    	I told my wife that I wanted punch out for christmas. She, being
    	a good wife got it for me (only after I found out what day the
    	store was going to get a new shipment). She wrapped it out and
    	put it under the tree. I then went crazy, I thought she was
    	going to just give it to me. After about 5 days of suffering,
    	having top gun made it a little easier, I told her that I wanted
    	to open it. It cost me letting her open 3, but I got to play
    	the game. It is a lot of fun. (if you think that the second
    	boxer is ruff, wait until the 4th or 5th). I am currently stuck
    	with a boxer who can run around the ring fast than you can see
    	him. Every boxer is different and has a different weakness.
    	I love king hippo, he seems tuff at first, but when you know
    	his weakness he is easy to defeat. I would rate the game a 8-9.
    	I am having a lot of fun.
    
    

    Ya, great game.
    
    I got to Bald Bull the second time, man is he hard.
    
    I know sombody who got to Tyson. He died (my friend, not tyson.).
    
    Gotta Go,
    
    		'Twas christmas..
    			Pat...
    

    
    WELL I ALSO BOUGHT PUNCH OUT YESTERDAY. SPENT ABOUT THREE HOURS
    LAST NIGHT PLAYING. I GOT TO HIPPO. COULD NOT K.O HIM. THE SCREEN
    I LIKE BEST IS WHEN YOU GET YOUR FIRST PASS KEY!! WELL TIME TO GO
    HOME AND THROW SOME BLOWS WITH HIPPO!!!
    
                                                      PAT 

    	I can get to Tyson with NOO problem at all now.  I even got
    him down once.  Is is SUPER tough though, one hit and your DOWN!!
     I like it `cause it's hard, but one hit `n' yer down is a little
    dumb...
    
    			-=*>Jason<*=-

     
        HI, JUST REPORTING THAT I WIPPED KING HIPPO AND THE NEXT GUY.
    NOW I AM HAVING PROBLEMS WITH BAULD BULL!!   I HATE WHEN I LOOSE
    THE MATCH AND HAVE TO START ALL OVER AT THE BEGINING !!           

    re -1
    
    How about giving our eyes a break and use lower case letters..
    
    It's bad enough going blind playing nintendo but to have to read
    all UPPERCASE letters is worse
    
    thanks
    
    the moderator

    IF YOU HAVE TROUBLE GETTING TO MINOR TITLE HOLDER OR MINOR MAJOR
    TITLE HOLDER THERE ARE CODE KEYS TO GET MINOR DO CODE 005 737 5423
    TO GET TO MINOR MAJOR DO CODE 777 807 3454.

    
    Jason,
    	Have you gotten to the end of a round with MR. Tyson ?
    
    			Just curious,
    				Pat..
    

    	Yeah, I can usually do that, but I've never gone 2 rounds. 
    He says stuff like, "You think the speed of your arms can match
    the strength of my fists?" or "You are no match for a great pro
    like me, go home and practice."
    
    	I'll get him someday!
    
    					-=*>Jason<*=-

    
         Jason, is there a code key to start with Tyson? I"m having
    problems getting past Bauld Bull!! Or can you give me a hint how
    to knock this guy down?? please!!
    
                                                LOOSEING IT!!
                                                  PAT KILDUFF

    Jason, my son Chris is having trouble with Piston Honda the SECOND
    time you meet him, after Bald Bull. Any hints???
    
    Thanks
    Bob 

    
    Possible spoiler as to Piston Honda #2
    
    
    
    
    
    
    
    
    
    
    
    
    
    
    
    
    
    
    
    
    
    
    
    
    
    
    
    
    Watch his eyes. He will punch 3 times. Dodge them. Then he will
    upper cut, dodge that. Then hit him.(I use right Head blows)
    
    The best way to knock him down is when he is comming in Jab the
    *&^%^&* out of you. Timed right and he is down. (use a body blow,
    not a head blow for that.)                                  
    
    
    				Hope it helps, 
    				    Pat..
    
    P.s Make sure to avoid those TKO's from Tokyo.
    

    A hint is when Piston gets back to your right a little d then he
    will come tward you and then give him a right body blow to the gut
    then it' a KO

    help!!!!
    
           How can I KO the invisible man? Any hints would be greatly
    appreciated. Thanks in advance.
    
                                                   Mike m

    	The invisable man???
    
    			-=*>Jason<*=-

    	Well, I finally beat Mike Tyson.  The ending is nothing
    spectacular, just a few inspiring words from Mike himself.

    
    Congadulations!
    
    About that invisable guy, I asume you are refering to the indian
    guy, he sort of turns invisable when he does his 'move'.
    The best way to get him is to just block (pull down) when he is
    coming in. Keep doing this until he is stopped, he should look stunned.
    So, just do like Doc says, "Hit him while he's stunned". An uppercut
    should do the job.
    
    	Oh ya, when he is about to jab, his rubie sparkles...
    				Pat..
    
    
    

    
    re: .18
    
    		Jason,
    
    			Any hints on beating Tyson??
    
    		Thanx,
    
    			Rick

    
    Any hints on beating Bald Bull???
    
    eric

    i have a code with 71 winns! it starts ypu off at super machon man
    it is 081-055-7738 i would like to know what it is like after you
    get 100 winns.HOW DO YOU BEET TYSON!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    My bother-in-law needs some help. My nephew got nintendo for his
    birthday and his father has been playing Punch Out. He is having
    a big problem with the Bald Bull on the world circuit. He is ready
    to punch out the TV. Please any hints would be welcomed the TV is
    new (Santa brought it).
    
    Norb

    I to need some help in beating Bald Bull. Every time I get a chance
    to knock him down three times he starts his wild bull charge. I
    get out of his way, and all he does for the rest of the round is
    charge and I dodge. When I try to stand up to him, like the corner
    says I get waylayed. Please help!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    re. .-1
    
    	What you do is right when he gets right up to you, I mean when
    he is just about to punch, hit him in the stomach and take him by
    surprise!!!
    
    				-=*>J<*=-

    
    
    	re.-1 
    Yea, I agree about Don. He is too Easy!
    
    	As for King Hippo:
    	
    
    
    
    	Give him the old one, two. 
    
    First in the mouth, then in the belly.
    
    				"body blow, body blow..."
    				        Pat..

    Has anyone in this notesfile beat Tyson yet???? I have made it too
    the "Dream Fight" but, am yet to put Tyson away... I will be happy
    to help anyone in getting to Tyson.
    
    Brian

    Question:	Help!!!  On Super Macho Man, how do you effectivly
    		dodge any/all of his Super Spin Punches?
    
    Answer:	(I hope you guys know!)
    
    
    Glenn
    
    P.S.  Any spoilers on Super Macho Man of Mr. Sandman would be
          WONDERFUL!!!!

    re.-1
    
    THANKS!!!!!!!
    
    With your suggestions, it took me less than a day
    to elimunate both of those bozos.
    
    Now, for the big question........
    
    HOW DO I GET A HIT ON IRON MIKE????????????????????????
    
    I have played him several times and have yet to get a hit on him.
    Any help at all would be wonderful.
    
    Thanks, glenn

    	Tonight I decided to break out the old cartridge and to my surprise,
    I went through all the guys with no problem.  The only problem I
    had was beating Sandman.  This guy is TOUGH!!  If you ask me, he
    is the toughest guy.  So after I beat him I went to Tyson, and beat
    him with a TKO.  Just for some general tips.....
    
    
    
    	Mike first comes out with his super punches, the ones which
    if he hits you once, your down.  I'm not sure of the exact number
    of these, but it's about 10.  With these punches, all you do is
    dodge them, and come back with two shots to the head on each one.
    	His second step is the quick left and rights.  You can tell
    which hand he is going to hit with, because he blinks the corresponding
    eye before he punches.  After you dodge each one of these, come
    back with two shots to the head.
    	Occasionally he blinks like he does with his opening super punches,
    but don't worry, if he hits you with these it only takes a little
    bit off.  Just dodge this and hit him in the face with about 6 punches.
    He also occasionally does a kind of Soda Popinski step (the one
    where he dances and then starts with the left and rights).  To see
    this, all you do is wait till he blinks both his eyes.  Block 4
    of them and then give him 2-6 hits in the head.
    	I don't think that I am giving away a lot with these tips, because
    it depends on the person to supply the speed and skill.
    
    				HAPPY  TYSON!!!
    
    J

The following code is courtesy of my son (actually a friend of my son).
It starts you with Tyson!!!!

The only drawback is that you MUST input the code each time (after you lose,
the code does not remain (as with lower levels).

If you REALLY want it, then <cr>...if not, then next unseen!!!



		007-373-5963
Enjoy

Ron M.

    It seems strange that Piston Honda #2 (that is to say, the Piston
    Honda fighting in the world circuit) could be knocked out with only
    one punch, but it is possible.  It all began quite accidentally
    when I discovered a way to knock down Piston Honda #1 with one punch.
    I figured that I might be able to do the same with Piston Honda #2,
    but what I got was even better (a KO).
    
    I don't guarantee this punch will work every time (occasionally
    I have gotten only an upper-cut for my efforts) but here is how
    to do it.
    
    
    
    
    
    
    
    
    
    
    
    
    
    
    
    
    
    
    
    
    
    
    
    
    
    
    
    
    
    
    First of all, Piston Honda #1:
    When PH (Piston Honda) jumps back and bounces around the ring, he
    will soon come forward to unlease a flurry of punches.  The moment
    PH comes toward you throw a punch to the face and he will fall down.
    This is only approximately when you should throw the punch; exact
    timing is essential.
    
    Now, to KO PH #2 with one punch:
    At about 1 minute (their time) into the round, PH #2 will jump back
    like PH #1, but he does not bounce around the ring as PH #1 does.
    This allows less time to prepare for the tricky manuever.  As PH #2
    comes back toward you (timing approximate) a body blow usually does
    the trick.  If it fails, and you only get an upper-cut or get punched
    or whatever else may go wrong, be prepared to block a few punches.
    I wonder if any other fighters can be KOed with one punch?
    
    CE
    

    re .40
    
    The pass key for the "Another World Circuit" is:
    
    		135 792 4680
    
    Hold down Select, and press the A and B buttons simultaneously.
                                                

    
    Someone please help me out,
    
    1) What are these codes?
    
    2) How do you enter them ? (gotta be the keypad)
    
    3) If it is the keypad, how do you associate a number with
    	button combinations?
    
    4) Is this the only game it works with ?
    
    5) Any other useful info ?
    
    				thanks
    				mark

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SCOVAX::MONOCCHI                                      8 lines  31-OCT-1988 12:43
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    I know this has been kicked around before, especially in note 33,
    but does anyone have a secrets on how to beat iron Mike, aside from
    the usual dodge left, dodge right etc... how do you hit him with
    a power punch. Usually, when I get a power punch, I lose it almost
    immediately. I'd like to get by iron Mike so I can start concentrating
    on SMBII.
    
                                     Thanks

    Here is the code to get to Mike himself, my son (9) has mastered
    the match, I have yet to beat Piston Honda 2nd.
    
    			007-373-5963

    I just started playing punch out again. I cannot beat Tyson. I finally
    got into the third round with him and even knocked him down once.
    
    Jim

        How many fighters are there in Punch Out?  Does anybody know
    how many different styles of fighters including the ones that re
    appear?  Do all the fighters fight in patterns, i.e. three jabs
    then a couple of uppercuts?
    
        Once a fighter has been figured out, is he always easy to beat?
    I have beaten all fighters up to Bauld Bull and find them to be
    easy once I understood their combinations.  Do any of the fighters
    ever fight randomly or do they always adhere to a specific pattern?
    
        Are there any long term players out there?  By that I mean players
    that have had this game for over six months and still play.

    
       Keep after him Jim.  I finally beat Tyson (by decision) the other
       night after losing oh about... 300 fights to him. 
    
       Re: -.1    I've had the game over 6 months and still enjoy it.
       After playing it initially and getting up to Tyson, I put it
       away to get on with the summer.  Last month I decided it was
       time to KO Kid Dynamite.  The kids love the game too.  For info
       on number of fighters and comments on their fighting patterns,
       read all the replies to this topic.
    
    -rick
    

    The big thing with Tyson is not to get knocked down in round one.
    After round one I can pretty much stay with him. The only problem
    is, I haven't made it through round one without getting knocked
    down at least once.
    
    I'll get him yet.
    
    Jim
    
    

    Has anyone ever played the real Punch Out.  I can make it up to
    the 3rd bald bull.
    
              Matt
    

    I just started playing and got up to Bald Bull so far.  Good game.
    
    		Barry
    

    Got by Bald Bull and the second Piston Honda last night (he's tough).
    
    Soda Popinski ko'ed me a couple times with his knee.  I'll get him
    next.  Any active players out there??
    
    		Barry
    

Can anyone help me with some tips on how to survive with Soda Pop.

He cleans my clock every time


Coooop

    To beat Soda-Pop, hit him with a plain punch as he crouches down
    for his uppercut. When he does his "Soda-Pop" punch, keep hitting
    him in the face. (as told to me by my son Jay)

    Been a long time since I picked up this game, so last night I decided
    to start from scratch and work my way through to Tyson. I never made it
    because Sandman kicked my butt...twice. I lost my key to Tyson so I had
    to pop in here to get it....
    
    Question : 
    
    What's the "alternate" world circuit. Are these different fighters? I'm
    gonna try it sometime this week, but this is the first I've heard of
    it.
    
    Jim

    Roy,
    
    Last night I almost beat Tyson...I lost a decision. I knocked him down
    in the second round, and twice in the third. I was one punch from
    knocking him down a third time for the TKO, and time ran out.
    
    aaaaaarrrrrrrgggghhhhh

    re .58
    
    	I'm amazed that you got as far as you did.  I read a book about
    Nintendo games a while ago that said that it was impossible to TKO
    Tyson and that you just have to hope that he goes down for the count. 
    Or was it the other way around?

    I have a son who can beat everybody in punch out before the middle
    of the third round.  Most of the fighters he knocks out in the second.
    
    I also have three other sons who can't get past Super Macho Man.
    Personally, I can't get past the secound Piston Honda.  I know the
    spoilers but with the four children never get a chance at playing.

    CONGRATS!!! To myself. I finally beat Tyson. The real trick, if it can
    even be called a trick, is to not get knocked down in the first round.
    
    I managed to stay up through the whole first round, which isn't tough
    once he's done throwing "dynamite punches". I knocked him down once in
    round 2, and he got me once. But, I was only one punch from knocking
    him down a second time in round 2 when time ran out.
    
    So, in round three, I knocked him down at th 8 second mark. Then got
    him again at somewhere around 1:40. Then he switched to the jab and
    nailed me. Finally, I stunned him and hit him with an uppercut at 
    2:50 of the third round.
    
    The end is kind of beat. Mike congratulates you, but there's not much
    fanfare.
    
    Also, it didn't give me a new number after I won. I figured I'd be
    champ and get challenged or something like the arcade version. Oh
    well....at least I beat him.
    
    The_new_Kid_dynamite

    I know everybody thinks that Don Flamenco is so easy.  But for some
    reason I am having a problem beating him. Can someone post any
    suggestions.
    
    Thanks
    
    

    
    
    
    DF help
    
    
    
    
    
    
    
    
    
    
    
    
    
    
    
    
    Swing at him wild...........get ready for a big swing from DF and
 
    duck to the left or right..............Then start hitting him. A-button
    
    B-botton, A-button, B-button etc..... Or just the A-button
    
    continuously.............You don't have to go crazy on the button,
    
    just a good rythem. That'll do it.
    
    
    jeff

    Thanks for the hint on Don.  Any help on the rest of the fighters would
    be appreciated.   King Hippo...........
    
    I liked beating Don!!!!!!!
    

    
    
    Wait for Hippo to open his mouth and HIT him!, then you have to
    hit him in his belly button. You'll need to do this acouple of times
    to knock him out. The good thing about him is that once he goes
    down once, he stays down.
    
    jeff

    I need hints/spoilers on how to beat Soda Popinski.  I tried hitting
    him as he kneels for the uppercut,  but he always clobbers me.
    Any suggestions?
    			
    		Karl	

    
    
    
    Sorry, this is where I get stopped also. I'll watch for hints too.
    
    jeff

    additional hint on Popinski
    
    
    
    Roy is correct about simply dodging him...but, there is an additional
    way to cause damage. You know how at the start of the fight he'll throw
    a punch that's sort of like a right cross (or left cross). When he is
    about to throw that, you can pop him in the face and you'll get a star.
    You can do it three times in a row, then when he ducks down to throw
    the uppercut, dodge him, hit him once in the head, then throw the big
    uppercut. I've beaten him in the first round by doing this.
    
    

    Thanks for the help.  I finally beat Soda last night after many close 
    tries.  Of couse Bull kicked my butt in the next fight.  I'll just have
    to get his rhythm down.  
    
    Question:  How many more guys do I have to beat before I get to Tyson?
    
    

    If you want to try Tyson, somewhere in this note is a key that will
    take you right to him.
    
    Jim

    Can anybody give me the spoilers for the second fight with Don
    Flamingo?
    
     Any help will be greatly appreciated !!!
    
     He keeps kicking my butt, even though I punch the #&*^ out of him !!!
    
    
                           thanx in advance 
                                jr
    

    No real pointers, but all you have to do is dodge his punches and throw
    rights and lefts to the face. 
    
    I don't always knock him out, but I never lose to him. If you can keep
    from getting knocked down, you can decision him. As far as I can tell,
    there aren't any right-left combo tricks like in the first meeting with
    him.
    
    Just dodge his punches and keep hitting him

    Is there some litagation pending which has taken PUNCH_OUT off the
    shelves? I cannot find the game anywhere. I need one for the holidays.

    Boxing Strategy:
    
    Dodge the guys punches and counter punch!!
    
    Eric
    

    Hmmmmmmmmmmmmmm.......  Buster Douglass' Punch Out. Sounds Good.

    
     Mike has also changed his name, to
    
     Scrap Iron Mike
    
    

    How long do you think the rematch will last??? Probably be quicker
    than the Spinks fight, with the same result...

Hopefully, Buster won't whine if he loses...

daryll

    whats everyones personal best with these fighters:
    
    	don flamingo	-	00:36.34  KO
    	magician guy 	-	02:14.01 TKO 
    
    both in the first round
    
    tyson is a whimp!!
    

    The following note is an extract of note 532, since deleted.
    
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Note 532.0                          Punchout                           4 replies
SCOVAX::MONOCCHI                                     11 lines  15-OCT-1990 10:00
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    I was looking over the wide selection on Nintendo games in a
    local Toy R Us store and I noticed a game called PUNCHOUT.
    It was not the Mike Tyson Punchout which I already have. I 
    would like to know if anyone has this game, and how similar or
    different it is from Tysons Punchout.
    
    
    
     Thanks,
    
     Mike
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ICS::CUNNIFF                                          5 lines  15-OCT-1990 10:13
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    You're sure they didn't just re-title "Mike Tyson's PUNCHOUT"
    as "Punchout" - and redo the artwork for the box?
    
    jack
    (who wonders why Nintendo would do such a thing...)
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DEMON::DEMON::CHALMERS "Ski or die..."                7 lines  15-OCT-1990 12:01
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    RE:-.1
    
    Maybe they reprogrammed the game as "Buster Douglas's Punchout",
    or maybe they're waiting for "Evander Holyfield's Punchout", or
    "George Foreman's Punchout", or.....;^) ;^) ;^)
    
    
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CX3COM::T_ESTES "Old Iron and Diesel"                 9 lines  15-OCT-1990 15:09
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    	If you read the box on Nintendo's "new" PUNCH OUT you will see it
    is the same "old" PUNCH OUT sans Mike Tyson. It says that the product
    is not endorsed nor sponsered in any way shape or form by M.T. any
    longer. I wonder if the old one will worth anything someday?
    
    
    
    						Tim
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ICS::CUNNIFF                                          5 lines  16-OCT-1990 07:25
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    After being provided with the information in .3, I'm moving this
    discussion to the "Mike Tyson's PUNCHOUT" note...
    
    Jack
    NINTENDO co-moderator
    

    According to a recent issue of "Nintendo Power", the licensing
    agreement between Mike Tyson and Nintendo has expired.  Nintendo has
    decided to keep issuing the game which will now be called simply
    "Punchout".  Another fighter character will be used in place of Tyson's
    character in the finale.

    
    I have just recently started with PUNCH - OUT (thanks Tom)
    and love it, I am up to Bald Bull but can't get by him.  Afer
    the 1st round, Doc says to STAND UP TO HIM?  Is this a hint?
    Any help from you pro's?
    
    						Paula

Yeah, 

	but are you getting any sleep?

	t

hint after a bunch of returns.






















It's all timing.  When he does his little Bull Charge at you, you got to hit
him right in the gut.  He'll go out for an 8-9 count.  I've never KO'd him,
only TKO'd.  FWIW.  I forgot to mention that I wrote down a bunch of passwords
in the back of the instructions.  I think one's in there to let you get a look
at Mike....

    
    Boy, no one really has talked about Punch Out since 1990 besides
    me?!  Hope I don't bore anyone ... any hints on The Sandman???
    Thanks!   -Paula-