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Title:Nintendo Game Systems
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Created:Tue Oct 20 1987
Last Modified:Mon Feb 03 1997
Last Successful Update:Fri Jun 06 1997
Number of topics:847
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557.0. "Musical Keyboard training on Nintendo." by SULTRY::LENF () Mon Nov 26 1990 18:23

DAK is selling a musical keyboard with a cable and cartridge to hook
up to a nintendo to teach people how to play the piano. This concept
intrigues me a lot. Has anyone seen such a cartridge? does it require
that specific keyboard or will any MIDI device do? How good is it in
really teaching people to play music? (I know that the games have been
very effective in teaching eye-hand coordination to the game controllers
but isn't making music really an eye-hand problem too? This looks like
it might be an important new class of use of the nintendo.

Len
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557.1Nintendo sound too whimpyASHBY::SBILLFri Nov 30 1990 15:469
    
    	If it is true I hope there is a way to improve the sound quality of
    the Nintendo unit. I have found that the sound quality of the games is
    inferior to the new units that are out now from Nintendo's competitors.
    I think that the way the games SOUND will be an important feature in
    the future of any electronic entertainment systems. Nintendo out to
    wake up and GO STEREO.
    
    Steve
557.2Sound comes from SynthesizerSULTRY::LENFWed Dec 05 1990 13:578
From the picture, the sound would probably come from the 
Musical keyboard/synthesizer. The Nintendo is apparently a
computer to control the learning algorithms and a graphics
display to put musical scores on the TV and move them along
as you play. It is also aparently some form of MIDI interface
with I would suppose a locked in set of music that it can work
with. But the idea is that it would give the student very
quick feedback. Hence assumedly more effective training.
557.3More info availableDECWET::MCBRIDEIt may not be the easy way...Mon Jan 07 1991 23:1617
DAK and a few stores in the New York area had this first, but it should
be available elsewhere soon.  Nintendo Power has an article about it, in
the January issue, I think.

My partner is a consumer service rep for Nintendo, and just today they
got a Miracle Keyboard for the consumer service and gameplay staff to
try.  He played with it for about 20 minutes and said it is a nice key-
board and the software does look like it would be good for teaching
music, if you have the discipline to practice without needing a teacher
to motivate you.  He said he could not tell who made the keyboard, but
it is Japanese and is equivalent to a Yamaha or Roland in the $250 range.

If you would like to talk to him about it, call the consumer service 800
number (sorry, I don't know it) and ask for Alex Sargeant.  He is there
M-F from 8:00 am to 1:00 pm (west coast time).  The consumer service reps
aren't supposed to transfer calls, but they should do it if you tell whoever
you get that you want to talk to Alex about the keyboard.
557.4well,what does it do?SA1794::KITTJSMOKIN' JOE __________ DTN 243-2634 Mon Mar 11 1991 13:425
    Does anyone oun one? Can you run a midi board other than the one
    that is made for it and can you buy the set without the board?
    Does it help in composing?And is there a printer that can be used to
    record the composition?
                       Joe
557.5Worth the cost!ANGLIN::LAUERSDORFTue Mar 12 1991 01:0933
    I purchased one this weekend from a Toys 'R Us. It's the same package
    as the DAK catalog and the same price $299.00.  It contains a 4 octave
    keyboard synthesizer that connects to the NES.  The keyboard has two
    4" speakers built in and can be played seperately from the NES.  A
    game cartridge has 36 different lessons with numerous sections in each
    lesson.  Starting with the basics and finishing with full sheet music
    scores.
    
    If you have trouble completing a section, you repeat it again.  If you
    still have trouble, it will take you back to a section that reinforces
    your problem, (rythym, notes, ..) and then returns you to where you
    were.
    
    It switches between words on the screen, actual sheet music, quizzes
    and games.  The games are used to reinforce rythym and note positions.
    
    I have had a few years of piano lessons, so I had an advantage.  But my
    7 year old son has not had any music lessons, and after an hour, he was
    reading simple sheet music.
    
    The keyboard is powered by an AC adapter, no batteries.  It has a jack
    for earphones, a connection to your stereo, a foot pedal that functions
    as a damper pedal and a MIDI port.  The keyboard had 45 different
    voices (Oboe, Strings, Guitar...), 128 different patches (Moog,
    12-string Guitar, Frogs, Whistle, Drums, door slams...).
    
    The MIDI port can be connected to a standalone or computer-driven
    sequencer (not the NES), taht can digitally record your performances,
    as well as let you edit, merge and play them back.  
    
    I would recommend it!!!!  
    
    Glen
557.6It's the thing to do!FSTVAX::MOUTONTue Apr 30 1991 20:0826
    
    My 2 cents....
    
    I have one.  IIIIII LLLLLLOOOOVVVEEEE IIIITTTTT!!!!!!!
    (as much as anyone can care for an inanimate object :^))
    
    I have always wanted to play piano, and now I have the ability to have
    help when "I" want it as opposed to being tied down to a
    class/instructor schedule of lessons. 
    
    There is also a book that comes with it that has some interesting
    technical specs on midi in the back.
    
    The book also mentions that for maximum effectiveness, this should be
    combined with a tutor.  The package shows you the mechanics, but
    doesn't teach style. (Shows you what the notes/symbols/octaves/etc
    mean, but doesn't deal with reggae, funk, blues, classical, etc).
    
    Wonderful!!!!  I highly recommend it.  Too bad about the company
    though.  They just laid off a good chunk of their work force because
    this and other projects haven't taken off (The Software Toolworks Co.).
    
    Have a ball!!
    
    cj mouton
    
557.7Latest DAK catalog price is $219 + P/SEVMS::YAHWHO::PETROVICLooking for a simpler place & time...Wed May 01 1991 18:553
Just got the newest DAK catlog and the Miracle system's listed @ $219

chris