Conference rusure::nintendo

    Well, I finally picked up THE LEGEND OF ZELDA, yesterday.
    
    The game is great, so far!
    
    After playing for a half hour, I found the 1st piece of the triforce
    (or whatever it's called) and thought "It can't be THIS easy!".
    
    After 5 hours of frustrated play, I realized, no...it's NOT that
    easy!
    
    Well, this one was definitely worth the money.
    
    
    Galv

    Wanted: HINTS/HELP/CLUES but...*NO* spoilers!
    
    O.K.  I'm having a little trouble, here.
    
    I've found the 3rd, and magical, sword.  But...I can't pick it up!
    The old guy is telling me that I should learn to master it, then
    I can use it.  Well, that's what they told me when I found up the
    2nd sword and I didn't have any problem getting it. 
    
    Question:  Am I missing something?  Do you have to have a certain
    amount of the triforce, before you can get the 3rd sword (I've got
    3 pieces of it)??
    
    Also, I've had no problem finding labrynths 1,2,3,5,6,8 & 9, but
    I can't seem to find #4.  I'm sure that I probably need the raft
    or something to get to it (which I still haven't found!).  No hints
    wanted for this...I'll keep looking!
    
    Oh, yeah.  I've been doing pretty well, so far, *without* looking
    at any of the previous spoilers (or even the hints that come with
    the game).
    
    
    Galv (patting himself on the back, repeatedly)

        Galv,
        
        You answered your own question concerning the Sword.
        
        Andy.

    Re:-1
    
    Damn!  I was hoping I was wrong.
    
    Thanks.
    
    
    Galv

    Galv,
    
    The best advice you can get is that you explore every room in every
    labyrinth and try everything and anything....you don't want to leave
    without taking an item you may need later on.
    
    Mike
    

    My son, John, wants a hint on how to enter "level 5" having found
    most of the others.  
    
    Thanks,
    	
    rmm
    

    	re.:5.2
    
    	The swords do not rely on triforce segments, only on whether
    you have enough heart to take them from a defenseless old man.

    Well I too am having trouble finding the prescription for medicine
    in the second time though . It would really make my life better
    if I had it . Please someone give me a hint. You can send mail to
    ELwood::chauvin if you don't want to reply here.
    
    
    Thanks
    
    Ray    

    Re:.7
    
    O.K.  Well, I've still got only 3 pieces of the Triforce, BUT...
    I've got eight (8) hearts!  I tried to pick up one more, but I 
    couldn't.  SO...*how* many hearts do I need???!!
        
    What I'm trying to say is...I still can't pick up the 3rd sword.
    
    P.S. - I finally found labrynth #4 and the raft.
    
    
    Galv

    Re:.9
    I am not sure that you are stating you have 9 heart cases now that
    you have done level 4 but in either case you need more.  Keep going....
    you're doing fine.  If you want to know exactly how many you need
    send me a mail message (HBO::SWARTZ).  If you read the large text,
    I believe there are hints there.

 Am I doing something wrong...

	I bought Zelda three days ago now...I have two of the
	Triforce pieces, my question is regarding the save/restore.

	Say I'm in labryinth 5, and I get killed, when the

	"continue"
	"save"
	"retry"

	menu pops up, if I select "save", then power off,
	power on, and continue, I'm always at the beginning room
	not at the room I got killed in, Is this a bug or a feature?

	Also, could someone give me a mild hint on how to find
	the "recorder" <-- Is that like a "tape" recorder?

Thanks in advance,

/Eric

	

    I believe that's a feature and is described in the documentation.
    When you get killed underground you go back to the beginning.
    
    I can't help you with the recorder.
    
    -Rich

    Re .11:
    
    If you have two of the Triforce pieces, why are you in labyrinth five?
    
    A recorder is a flute with eight finger holes and a whistlelike
    mouthpiece.  Don't worry about it yet; just keep looking in the secret
    areas.                            
    
    
    				-- edp 

    Maybe someone could help me with this. In the booklet it says that
    you can stop the game any time by pressing the "A" button on
    controller 2 and the control pad at the same time while you have
    the sub screen selected. I've pressed the "A" button and all the
    other buttons I could find on the system and can't stop the game
    to save it. It seems the only way to save a game is to die so you
    can get to the save menu. Am I doing something wrong, or is this
    the way it's suppose to work.
    
    Den
    

    you must also press the up arrow on control 2 and then press the
    "A" button.  Remember to hold both buttons down.  This will then
    bring you to the save menu.
    
    mark

    In other words, you push `A' and `UP' on Controller-2.
    	-=*>Jason<*=-

    What follows is, or may be a super spoiler:
    
    It deals mainly with people who have won once, but are having trouble
    on there second time around,
    
    Super Spoiler :
    
    
    
    
    
    
    
    
    
    
    
    
    
    
    
    
    
    
    
    
    
    
    
    
    
    
    
    
    
    
    
    
    
    
    
    
    
    
    
    
    
    
    
    
    
    
    
    
    
    
    
    
    
    
    
    Do you like the name Zelda ? 
    
    
    
    
    
    
    
    
    
    Your computer will... 
    
    
    
    
    
    
    
    name another character, not the one you won with the first time,
    and name it .....
    
       Try it and see. You may just win ZELDA, again.
    
    
    If this doesn't work, sorry. It should though, as it worked for
    me.
    
    		Zelda was fun, Can't wait for The Adventure of Link,
    				      Pat..
    
    

    My daughter got a Zelda cartridge for XMAS and I'm hooked.  I've
    got to get this thing solved quickly before my wife divorces me
    and the kids hide the game :-). I've pretty much avoided the spoilers
    in this note but I've got a couple of questions on burning an bombing.  

    If there is a secret passage or room on a screen that will it be under
    one of the separate trees or rocks?  In other words, once I burn and
    bomb these and don't find anything can I assume that there is no
    passage on that screen or do I need to burn and bomb the surronding 
    borders?
    
    Can I burn more than one tree at a time if I place the fireball
    between them or does the fireball need to be right on the tree.
    Same question for bombs.

    Is everything that is green forest and that which is brown rock?
    Do you always burn the forest and bomb the rocks?
    
    Thanks a lot
    
    George

    RE: -1
    You are better off burning and bombing everything.  You can't burn
    rocks and it's better to burn trees.  You will need to check the
    borders.  Sometimes secret passages under rocks cannot be bombed.
    You need to find the Power Bracelet to push the rocks aside.  Almost
    every room has something in it.  Your safest to burn a tree straight
    on.  Bombs are a little more forgiving but not always.  If you have
    a candle right now, it is probably the blue one.  That is only good
    for one flame per screen.  You can get a red candle from one of
    the labrynths that will allow you to torch several times per screen.
    
    Good Luck.
    
    Link Steve
    

    Re .18:
    
    I have never found, and I do not think there is, more than one hidden
    passage in any room.              
    
    
    				-- edp 

	I'm having some serious problems in labyrinth #4 with
	the multi-headed dragon guarding the triforce segment.
	I can't seem to kill the darn thing!!  I've gone in with
	nine full life hearts numerous times and have tried bombs,
	the candle, the boomerang, and of course the white sword.
	He always ends up getting me.  Do I need anything special
	to kill this guy or what.

	Any help will be appreciated

	Thanks

		/jr

    Try using your sword just around the head area.  
    
    Spoiler follows
    
    
    
    
    the idea is to cut off his heads,  don't worry about them floating
    around you once you have cut them off, just keep going for the ones
    remaining.
    
    all the bombs in the world won't help you here...

    Can someone tell me where the red candle is located in the first
    time through???  I am in level 6 with 12 life hearts but, have gone
    into 7 and 8.
    
    
    Don

    Re .23:
    
    It is somewhere in labyrinth seven.  I do not have my maps here, so I
    cannot tell you exactly; let me know if you cannot find it after
    bombing everywhere and checking for secret passages.
    
    
    				-- edp

    I found it!  Now I just can find how to get to the monster!
    I have tried everthing I could think of.  I have the secret passage
    to the other rooms, I just can't get to the monster.
    
    
    Don

    Re .25:
    
    I think there's a map in .0 when you need it.
    
    
    				-- edp

    Is there an easy way to get the whistle/recorder on level 5?
    Fighting with all those Darknuts is very tiring.
    
    Greg**************************
    

    Well, I wasn't going to do this, but I guess that I've got to swallow
    my pride!
    
    Where are the guys that sell you the right to more bombs? I've
    wandered through all the Overworld, bombed flat walls and some 
    other places, although I haven't 
    been able to turn up ANYTHING by bombing ... at least I'd like to
    be able to carry more when I do go on my "search and destroy" missions.
    
    I bought Zelda for my husband for Christmas, and even though he's
    the chief "addict", I must say that as of last night we're even!
    (Neither of us can make it all the way through Labrynth 5. Sigh)
    It works out pretty well -- he's a fighter, and has discovered some
    of the tricks for killing off guys, and I'm a burner-and-bomber,
    and discovered some of the secret rooms (except for the bomb givers!)
    so we get to share our wisdom.
    	
    	Happy Link-ing!
    
    			- Lorri
    

Spoiler to follow form feed
    
    
    In order to get more bombs, you must pay someone in the underworlds
    100 coins.  One of these guys is in level 5 and one in level 7.
    
    Don

    
    This new question could be a spoiler...
    
    When you enter the name ZELDA, the labyrinths are in different places
    and they look different.  We can find labyrinths 1,2,5,7.  The others
    are nowhere to be found.  Could you let us know where to look?
    
    thanks.
    

    Re .30:
    
    You have found the short cut into the second phase of the game.
    
    
    				-- edp

    
    I see that now, but can you tell me where those labyrinths are?

    Re .32:
    
    Not until I find them.  Check .0 for information from other people.
    
    
    				-- edp

    
    I just discovered this note.... I accidently did a write and not
    a reply... that note is 49.0.  Since that note was set to no write,
    I will re-type it here!
    
    Questions on Zelda:?
    
    1.  Why is it when I have a total of 5 life hearts and I continue
    a geme, that at the start only 3 of the 5 are red?  Is this a bug
    or a feature.. did the game designers intend for you to fill the
    other 2 on your own?
    
    2.  I don't want to know where the hidden objects are, but I am
    interested in hearing other peoples strategies for searching areas
    for hidden rooms and objects.  I'm not sure how I should approach
    this problem.  I don't have enough bombs (8) to bomb every tree
    and rock.... Will the blue candle help? I simply want advice on
    how other zelda-ers find hidden objects??
    
    
    So far I have found piece 1 and 2 of the tri-force, used 33 lives
    to do so, but I am getting the hang of the game... I can easily
    say, I am HOOKED..... I actually played ZELDA and did not watch
    some of the REDSKINS game....A sin for a Wahsingtonian.  Can't wait
    to get home so I can play some more!!!
    
    Thanks for all your help........ sorry about note 49.  Next time
    I'll know to use this note for questions, thoughts.....
    
    Lisa

    I deleted note 49.0.    Thank you Lisa for reposting your note here.
    
    mark (moderator)

        Re .-1, Lisa,
        
        As you  amble  around  fighting  the various monsters, you'll
        find that certain  of  them  are likely to give you bombs, so
        you should use your  bombs  to  explore  as much as possible.
        You can bomb any brown  rocky  area,  but there's no point in
        bombing any vertical sections - only bomb the horizontal rock
        faces. There are a great many hidden caves in the Overworld!
        You can also use the candle to  set light to trees which will
        burn away if there is something to be found under them.
        
        As to the Life-Hearts - it's a feature  that you start weaker
        than full capacity, but there are two special areas where you
        can  recharge completely in one move, rather than seeking out
        individual fairies to top you up.
        
        Have fun!
        
        Andy.
        

    
    	If anybody wants to know where all the levels in phase 2 are,
    just send mail. Or if you can't find various items. I think phase
    2 is easier once you get the hang of it.
    
    				Where is the Adventures of LINK ?
    					   Pat..
    

    I notice that on certain screens if I move to to some parts of the
    border to bomb or burn I can't do anything. Yet, if I move to another
    part of the same screen (different border) I have no problems although
    there's never anything there.  Is this a bug in the program or is
    there something else I need to do ?
    
    George

    Can someone explain to me what the clue in Lymb. #4 means... "walk
    into the water fall....????"  I already have the magic sword?  Any
    suggestions as to how to defeat that thing guarding the 4th segment???
    Does it have anything to do with the clue????  Please help...
    
    signed,  very frustrated!

    
    
      Re: .39   The waterfall is just an old lady to tell you secrets
    If you pay for them of course.   as for the thing in level 4 which
    thing is it????? 

    
    
    	The clue "Walk into the waterfall" refers to the fall below
    where you get the white sword. Inside is a lady and she asks you
    to pay money so she can talk. Don't do it, if you give her -20,
    she will say how rich you are.
    
    	I can't remeber, but if the 4th gard is Gleeok, then cut his
    heads off. (don't worry about the heads that fly around after you
    cut them off).
    
    
    				that isn't enough to talk,
    					Pat..
    
    

Re .38:

	Each over world screen is 16 x 11 squares but the left, right and 
bottom rows may be off the screen of your TV set or monitor.  When in the 
boarder squares you can move but not fight.  The same is true of the door 
ways of the labyrinths.

Spoiler:

	Also, you can not be attacked in most cases.  A reasonable strategy
is to wait in the doorway till a favorable configuration arises and then jump 
out and take advantage of it.

Suggestion/Question on Darknuts:

	The instruction manual says that the Darknut's shield blocks Link's 
attacks.  Can they be attacked effectively from the side or rear?

	I am working on the first round and have finished levels 1-4.  By 
mapping I think I have located level 5 behind the 'Lost Hills' but have not 
found a way in.  Unfortunately, I wiped the character I was running and had 
to start over so it will be a little while before I am back to the point 
where I can explore that area again.  A hint on how to get to #5 would be 
appreciated.

Spoiler:


	You may not want to completely clean out the screens in the over 
world.  If you do, they are re-populated if you get far enough away or go 
underground.  If you leave one critter alive, the regeneration does not take 
place.  On the other hand, you may want to deliberately clean out a square to 
allow more creatures to grow so that they can be 'harvested' later.

    Re .38:
    
    I think that is a feature, not a bug, so that you can observe a room
    for a while before actually going in.
    
    
    				-- edp 

    
    	Re .43
    
    
    	Spoiler Follows:
    
    
    
    
    
    
    
    
    
    
    
    
    
    
    
    
    
    
    
    		Do you have the raft? Rember where level 4 was
    		 the first time? If both are yes, you just answered
          	  the question as to the location of level #5
    
    	
    		As to what's above the lost hills? well, it will 
    		 fill up your container harts. 
    
    		 As on how to get there, just keep going strait up,
    		  eventualy you will get there.
    
    		
    			 Now they tell me I'll have to wait to March...
    						Pat..
    
    

    Sorry....
    
    	I thought you meant you were on the second run.
    
    
    		You were right about where 5 is,
    
    			And the last not answered how to get there...
    
    			
    				We all make mistakes...
    					Pat..
    

    I have got just about everything and 15 container hearts, now I
    going into #9 tonight to try to kill gannon.  I would like to know
    some thing first; where is the red ring?  I also can't find the
    16th container heart.  I haven't got silver arrows yet but, I know
    where the are (sort of).
    
    
    Thanks,
    
    Don

    re .47   I should have said, this is the first time around.
    
    
    Don

	Can someone explain to me what use the whirlwind is?  Whenever
    I summon it it always takes me back to one of the labyrinths I've
    already been through.  Does this mean that I've missed something
    in these labyrinths?  Do I need to get further in the game to make
    use of it?  I'm now going through labyrinth 6 for the first time.
    
    George

Re .49:

	While I have not go the whirlwind yet, from what I have seen, it is a 
fast way to get back to where you have been before.  For example, if you want 
to fill up on money, a little running around in the lower levels will often 
fill up the old pockets very quickly.

	Thanks for the info on getting to level 5.  I got a bit of time last 
night and was able to do levels 3 and 4 very quickly.  That should teach me 
to wait before I ask questions since I did find it before I read the answer.

	This is a question for phase 2 of Zelda.  Can anyone tell me 
	where the item of treasure is in labyrinth 2??  I already got
	the triforce segment and have been in every room (at least 
	room on the map) bombing and pushing everything in sight and
	still cannot find anything.  I'm at my wits end!!  Also can
	some kind soul point me to labyrinth #3?

	Thanks

	/jr

    
    
    	Here are some answers to the questions asked...
    
    
    	Run 1, red ring:
    
    
    
    
    
    
    
    
    
    
    
    
    
    
    
    
    
    
    	Up 2 rooms from where the map is. ( upper right corner of lab.)
    
    
    
    
    	.49 Whirwind-- I never use the whirl wind on the first time around,
    but on the second, Yes. Go up to the lost hills and go to the fairy
    pond above it, scince thats where level x was on the first time,
    it will take you there when you blow the whistle. That way its easier
    to fill up your harts.
    
    
    
    
    
    	what the magical treasure is in level 2:
    
    
    
    
    
    
    
    
    
    
    
    
    
    
    	Level 2 is in the shape of an E, go in every room, push ever brick,
    and eventually you will find the whistle.
    
    
    	As to the location of level 3:
    
    
    
    
    
    
    
    
    
    
    
    
    
    
    
    
    
    
    
    	Where level 2 was on the first round.
    
    
    
    				Hope it helps...
    				   Pat..

	This is a question for phase 2 of Zelda.  

	I can't find the ladder, I have completed level 5, and I have
        a feeling the ladder is in 5, because there is a key I cannot
        get to without the ladder, I have looked around in 6.  *Please*
        tell me where it is!!  Thanks!

/Eric

    re .52>
    
    
    Which Lab is the red ring in ???
    
    
    Don

    re .53
    
    The ladder is in 6.  Contact me via mail HBO::SWARTZ for more
    specifics.

	I have twin 6-six year old boys and they really enjoy Zelda.
However, my wife and I noticed a strange occurance last night after a
marathon session of Zelda by both of them...

	They're both at level 5 of pass 2 and are having some difficulty
with it.(as I've completed both passes, they ask for my help)...so last
night after they had been asleep for about 4 hours, one of them has a
nightmare and begins screaming about "...not enough medicine...", "...took
my shield away...", etc. It really worried me so I woke him up and he went
back to sleep. No problem. ....10 minutes later the other starts yelling
"...can't use the sword...", ...find the blue spirit..."! Then no more.

	Scared the h*ll out of me. (I wonder if I'd been doing the same
thing this last month). I hope that there's no permanent damage done to
them. I think I'll wean them off of Zelda for awhile. (Until the sequel
comes out.)

	This is a true story, and I believe that the intensity and 
frustration level of Zelda is not for the young ones...or maybe better
parental control is the answer.

			Do-as-I-say...not-as I-do
				John
    

    re.56
    that's depressing.two six year olds are on their second go around
    and i cant even make it past level five.those purple things are
    giving me nightmares cuz i cant kill them.
    
    in the booklet is says that in the caves where people live are secret
    locked doors,anyone open them yet?
    
    kelly

    Sometime to open a secret doo you have to push on a stone somewhere
    in the room.  Other times you have to blow a hole in the wall with
    a bomb.
    
    Ron

    
    
    		Or, you just walk through the walls...
    
    
    
    
    		The red ring is where it always is...
    
    
    
    
    
    
    
    
    
    
    			Level 9.
    
    
    
    			Walk into the waterfall..
    				Pat..
    	

    Couple of questions about the first round of ZELDA?
    
    	1.  I read in earlier notes that you can purchase the right	
    	to carry more bombs in the level 5 laymb.  I have been through
    	every inch and still cannot find the room?  Am I missing something?
    	If it is a hidden room, can someone draw me a map!!!!!
    
    	2.  Exactly how many hearts do I need to master the Magic Sword?
    	I currently have 11 and still cannot get at it.
    
    	3.  How does one defend the attacks of the wizzards (or what
    	ever thost things are in the beginning rooms Laymb. 6 that seem
    	to attack you with sound waves or spells then disappear then
    	re-appear)  
    
    	5.  Those monsters in Laymb. 5 that have big ears... the book
        says they hate loud noise... I tried to blow the whistle...
        nothing .... I tried blowing up bombs...... nothing... what
    	is their weakness????
                             
    
    This game is great but I am going to go prematurally gray if I don't
    find Gannon!.... Currently working on level 6.......Thanks in advance
    for any help you can give me
    
    
    LR

    Re .60:
    
    2. I think you can find the answer in the large base note.
    
    3. Learn how they fire and stay out of the way.  You can attack
       them by approaching from out of their line of fire.
    
    4. Clap one hand.
    
    5. I think arrows work on them, although they are not necessary.
    
    
    				-- edp

    
    
    	Re. .60
    
    3. Do you have the magical Shield? It blocks their shots.
    
    5. I agree.. ARROWS work the best on them.
      
    
    				The book LIED to us???
    					Pat..
    
    

    Finally found Ganon and defeated him.  The display was great (so
    was the music - I was reluctant to press the start button).  But
    alas my Link is puny again and I'm finding round two a real challenge!
    
    Can anyone give me any hints on how to do away with the blue flying
    crab/flower in Lab. 1?  Three lives aren't very much to work with.
    Have tried standing in the doorway, but the flamming balls get me
    everytime.  Hints welcome!  Mild spoilers please send to BREAKR::GOHN.
    
    Thanks,
    
    Linda
    L.A. Linkette

    if anyone would like a copy of the base note and it's 126 replies,
    then just send me your request via VAXMAIL to MOMAX1::PILOTTE.
    
    I will then mail you the information.  AT least this way you can
    print it out and have a hard copy at your finger tips.  There are
    a lot of good tips to be found.
    
    Mark 

    
    I'm through level seven but haven't seen level 8 or 9.  Seems like
    most people found them without any problem.  Could anyone give me
    a small spoiler, do I need to ravage the countryside to find these
    labyrinths?  Roughly where on the map do I look?  Really appreciate
    some help here.
    
    

RE .60:

   1.	See major hint (spoiler) at end.

   2.	I tried with both 11 and 12.  I could not get it with 11 and did get 
	it with 12.  You can have 12 hearts after completing 5 levels if you
	search the overworld carefully (or carelessly depending on your point 
	of view).

   3.	See hint at end.

   5.	Hmm.  I think the book lied.  I usually take them out with the sword.

Gannon:	I'm not ready for him yet.  Besides, I think it is more fun to 
	explore the game completely than rush through it.

RE .62:

   3.	Hmm.  I think I have the big shield but maybe it got eaten in maze 5 
	when I was not looking.  At any rate, the wiz are still getting 
	through in 6.

   5.	Ah, but arrows cost money.

RE .63:

	Obviously I have not gotten to round two yet, but aren't there a few 
	items lying around above ground that could help the situation?  
	Things like the power bracelet and the blue ring?  (Whoever said you 
	needed something from the mazes to get the power bracelet was wrong,
	but you do have to go the long way around to get it if you do not 
	visit the mazes first.)

RE .64:

	There are more than hints in that mass.  There are some outright 
	spoilers and a little mis-information.

Possible spoilers:

RE .60:

   1.	The instruction book suggests you need to be powerful enough to find 
	your way through some of the mazes.  This is the first place that I 
	know of that you need that kind of power in one of the mazes.  There
	is a good chance you have been using the same power above ground.  
	You will need to go down one set of steps and up the other and if I 
	remember correctly, do it again on the left this time.

   3.	This seems to be a matter of timing.  Sit in the doorway and watch 
	for a while.  A pattern should emerge.  Remember, you only get the 
	prize the first time you clean out a room unless the prize is 
	passage.  If all you want is passage, you may not have to fight for 
	it at all.  They are a little like Zola or the Red Levers in some 
	respects.

Gannon:	You will feel his eyes upon you when you get to the right screen.  
	(Well, sort of.)

RE .65:
	Assuming you are talking about the first round, level 8 requires the
	blue candle way over to the east and just a little north of the
	start.  Level 9 requires a bomb in the right place.  I am working on
	level six but know where the others are.

General:

	I am still working on my first game. (My wife did wipe out all the 
	characters by accident when I was about half way through level 2 with 
	two lives gone and I did have to start over from the beginning at 
	that point but I have keep the little guy alive since then.)  I have
	found it expedient to get out and recharge if the going gets to
	heavy.  Level two is a good place to pick up money.

    Need HELP!
    On Zelda, 2nd time thru, any hints on finding levels 4-8
    and help on magic item in level 3 and 4.
    
    thanks in advance.............glenn
    
    contact me thru DTN 522-4088 or NEXUS::G_GEIGER
    I don't read NOTES everyday but I'm waiting to know.
    

	Has anybody noticed an interesting relationship between levels 4, 1 
and 5 in the first round?  Are there any other levels with similar relations?

    help! help!
    i have finally completed level 5(first round) and seven.
    six is killing me.
    
    how do i deal with those ghosts????
    
    what worked on killing the darknuts in level seven does not seem
    to to the same in eight*sigh*
    
    kelly

Re .68:

	Nothing else like talking to oneself.

	There is a similar relation between levels 6, 3 and 2 in the first 
round.  Any others?

Spoiler:


@4@@4@@4@@4@   *5**5*       @6@@6@@6@   *2**2*
@4@   @4@@4@*5*   *5**5* @6@@6@@6@@6@@6@@6@*2**2*
@4@@4@-1--1-*5**5**5**5* @6@@6@-3--3-@6@@6@*2**2*
@4@@4@@4@-1-*5*-1--1-*5* @6@@6@@6@-3-@6@-3-*2**2*
@4@-1--1--1--1--1-*5**5* @6@-3--3--3--3--3-*2**2*
@4@@4@-1--1--1-*5**5**5* @6@-3--3--3--3--3-*2**2*
   @4@@4@-1-*5**5**5**5* @6@-3-@6@-3-*2**2**2**2*
@4@@4@-1--1--1-   *5**5* @6@@6@@6@-3--3-*2**2*   

    ooh, i just have to tell somebody!
    finished 6 and 8 yesterday!
    everone in the house thinks i am nuts getting so excited over a
    game! 
    i then proceeded to stay up till 4:00 am  trying to get through
    level 9.
    while i was busy being lost, i ran out of keys.in my excitement
    at finishing level 8 i forgot something.
    did you know that when i went back to 8,my map had disappeared!
    
    well i have to gree with everybody that said to make a map of level
    9.
    
    dont you just hate it when you are just about to drink your medicine,
    you die

    well at 2:45 am i finally did it!  yahoo!!!!!!
    
    i wish to thank  those that helped me,especially  eric postpischil.
    
    i thought i was a gonna tonight though. i left it on (just inside
    9)  while i took a shower,and someone wanted to watch tv and just
    shut the machine off. whew!
    
    the music is great(well at least it is a change)
    
    
    kelly

    
    
    
    Can anyone please point me toward level 4 in round 2??
    
    
    		thanks in advance,
    				 mike 

    I'm having a hard time trashing the darknuts in labyrinth 5 (1st
    round). Any suggestions on strategy? After FF, I'll describe what
    I've been doing.
    
    
    
    To make it clear what I'm talking about ... I mean the group of
    darknuts in the room with the passage that leads to the otherwise
    inaccessible portion of the maze, wherein you find a second group
    of darknuts (protecting a passage that leads to the flute, I suspect).
    
    I go in with full hearts (9), 8 bombs, and red healing potion. I
    have managed to kill the first group, but that battle usually depletes
    my resources so much that the second group seems impossible. To
    kill the first group I throw my sword and use my bombs, but I'm
    usually out of bombs when I get to the second group. Is this just
    a matter of brute force "try and try again" or can someone offer
    another strategy for dealing with them?
    
    Thanks.
    
    -Rich

    Re .76:
    
    The darknuts are actually not too bad, once you get used to them.
    Since they have shields, you cannot hit them from the front.  One
    key is to be patient.  More hints follow.
    
    If you have full hearts, stay away from them and shoot them as you get
    chances.  Just pick a spot, turn in some direction, and wait for one to
    cross your path.  Then shoot.  If any come near you, run away.
    
    If you do not have full hearts, you must get close to them.  There are
    several strategies.
    
    You can get behind a single block or row of single blocks and hit
    darknuts on the other side.
    
    You can stand next to a block and wait for a darknut to walk past, with
    its side toward you.  Then hit it and run away (it may turn toward
    you).
    
    If you are really bold, you can run up to one, hit it, and run.  DO NOT
    COME UP FROM BEHIND.  You are more likely to get hit that way.  (If you
    come up from the left or right, you will get hit only if they happen to
    turn left or right just at the spot where you are.  But if they turn
    around while you are coming up from behind, you are definitely going to
    get hit.)  Pick one that is traveling across your path, move forward to
    be next to it just as it crosses your path, hit it, and run.
    
    A mix of these strategies is usually good, depending on where the
    darknuts are and how they are moving.  But do not be greedy; always run
    after getting in one hit.  Be patient; if an opportunity does not
    present itself right away, don't run up and start hitting.  Wait for
    something good.
    
    
    				-- edp
         

    
    Eric, 
       Thanks for the hints ...
    
    
    
    I haven't tried hiding behind a block yet - don't know why I didn't
    think of it. These guys are really a pain!
    
    Back to the labyrinths ...
    
    -Rich

    me again...
    in round two of zelda
    
    it appears you cant buy medicine right off the bat.
    
    the hiding places for the container hearts are not the same,right?
    well what i am asking is all the places i bombed and burned in round
    one are no good anymore,or will i just find different things?
    
    kelly

    
    
    	Re.-1 
    
    		Somof the places work.
    
    		As for potion, you could never buy that right off, you
     	first must obtain the letter.
    
    		
    
    
    
    	The letter is in what I call the "BOWLING ALLEY".
    
    
    					And he manages a spare...
    						Pat..
    

ZELDA RESCUERS:  H-E-L-P!!!!!

I feel like the guy on the Zelda commercial; can anyone help?  I'm on the second
game and I'm stuck.  I can't find levels 5, 6, or 8!  Also, I must have passed
by some treasures in the first four levels.  Would anyone mind sending a 
spoiler; like what treasures come at each level labyrinth?  Thanks! 

	I'm in the 9th underworld of the first pass through Zelda. Any clues 
	on how to kill Patra (those flying eye things). They're murdering
	me, and by the looks of things the rooms with patra in them also 
	have the entrances to sublevels.

				Thanks,
				Keith	

    re:-.1
    
    The only thing I have found is to take your sword
    and kill the things flying around it, and then go after
    him.
    Be sure to be at full hearts, because it helps.
    
    Glenn
    NEXUS::G_GEIGER

    From Erik Bocton of Springboro, Ohio:  When you want to end your game,
    go to a fairy.  When the hearts being to appear, quickly go to the fast
    end option (controller number 2, Up and A), then save.  When you start
    your game later, you will have all red hearts! 
    
    
    				-- edp 

    HELP!  My husband and I are trying to kill the monster protecting
    the triforce in level 6 (round 1).  We've tried bombing it, hitting it with
    the wand and magic sword, and we just keep getting killed.  Any
    hints on what to do with this beast would be most welcome.  
    
    marianne & russ 

    Re .85:
    
    I don't remember the monsters in each level.  Could you describe it?
    
    
    				-- edp

    The monster at level 6 is an orange crab.  We've tried bombs in
    the face, wands in the face, hacking at it's legs,etc.  It doesn't
    even look like we made a dent.  It spits fireballs (or some such
    thing) so getting close is a little difficult without losing some
    hearts.  We have the blue ring, so it helps some.  Does this help?
    
    marianne

    I think that is Gohma.  I usaully stab him in the eyes.  If you
    stab anywhere else, it won't effect it.  
    
    
    Don

               Gohma = Joke to kill.

Spoiler follows:

	All it takes is one arrow right in the eye.  Hide in the
	doorway, wait for him to move in front with the eye open,
	zap! one arrow is all it takes.

/Eric

    A friend of mine (really!) is addicted to this game, but can't find
    Level 6 in the second round.  He's so frustrated he's almost stopped
    playing!  Anyone care to give me a nice spoiler?
    
    					Much appreciated
    
    					Rich
    

    RE: .90
    
    	Is your friend my husband?  This sounds so familiar!  We spent
    an entire (snowed-in) weekend trying to find it.
    
    	I'm going to put in a 'mild' spoiler, followed by a down-right
    descriptive spoiler. 
    
    				- Lorri
    
    
    
    	You need the whistle.
    	Try it in areas that  are not filled in on the map.
     (for the particular place, hit <return>
    
    
    	More specifically, try in the graveyard.
    
    		

    RE: .89
    
    THANKS!!!!!!!!!!!!  We killed the crab with no problem this morning.
    We're now off to level 7.........
    
    
    marianne

    Question:   What is Link's favorite dessert?
    
    
    
    
    
    Answer:     Ganon Yogurt     (Don't hit me, please!)

    can i ask a very stupid question?
    
    what do you guys mean when you say use controller 2?
    
    i tried plugging the joystick in there and it didnt work.
    
    kelly

    Re .94:
    
    Get to the sub-screen, which shows your possessions.  If you then press
    Up and A on the second controller, it will end the game immediately.
    
    
    				-- edp 

    I am in the second phase of Zelda and for the life of me am unable
    to locate the blue ring.  I would appreciate any clues that could
    help me find the location of the ring.  Also, is there always an 
    enchanted item in each dungeon in the second round?  Other than the
    boomerang, I did not find anything in the first level or the third level?
   
    Fustrated in the second round...
    
    Craig

RE:.96    go above the gambling tree and walk up

    RE: is there always something in the labyrinth
    
    Yes, there is, you just gotta look hard.  Below the 'form feed'
    I'll put a list of what's where -- at least, to the best of my
    recollection (we just got done with round 2 this past weekend)
    
    Level 1: Wooden boomerang 
    Level 2: Whistle
    Level 3: Good boomerang (keep looking!)
    Level 4: Raft and Book
    Level 5: Bow
    Level 6: Ladder (necessary to get through the higher labyrinths,
    		and also useful to take back into a lower one to get
    		a key)
    Level 7: Red Candle
    Level 8: Magic Key and Wand
    Level 9: Red Ring, Silver Arrow, and the Princess
    
    		Hope this helps!
    
    				- Lorri
    

    Thank you very much for the clues. I can wait to get home and continue
    the quest.  
    
    Again, much thanks!
    
    Craig

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BAHAMA::KNIGHT                                       23 lines   3-MAR-1988 14:17
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    ZELDA FAN NUMBER 68794.
    
      Being the fustrated sort that needs to ask questions.  I've done
    all of Quest 1 without any help and I'm on Quest 2, just finished
    level 6.  
    
      Two things really got me fustrated ...
      Quest 1 :  Level 7 - The map doesn't show all rooms.  I read every
               word on all documentation till I found out that the map
               only helps you to see most of the rooms.
      Quest 2 :  Level 2 - You mean there is another way of moving from
    		room to room one that was never visible in Quest 1.
    
    Now I've done everything possible to the upper land in order to
    find level 7 and I can't seem to find it or find level 8.
    
    Question: Does the other way of moving from room to room in the
              sub-levels also work in the upper land?
              Is that how I'll find Level 7 and 8?
    
    Ken
    
    

    RE: .100 (quest 2 - level 7 & 8)
    
    I'm not *exactly* sure what you're asking....
            
     (( I'll ask my question beyond a form-feed, in case I spoil something))
    			- Lorri
    
    Do you want to know where labyrinths 7 & 8 are, or do you want to
    know if you can walk through walls in the Overworld, in Phase 2?
    
    The answer to the second part is that you cannot walk through any
    walls (that I found, anyway) that you couldn't walk through the
    first time around.
    
    The answer to the first question, I'll stick after the form-feed,
    in case you don't want  the spoiler ...
    
    Labyrinth 7 is in the green forest, in a cell next to the one that
    Labyrinth 8 was in in the first round.  You need to burn a tree
    to find it.
    
    Labyrinth 8 is in the cell below the "arrow" (where the most-magic
    sword is).  You need to bomb the rockwall across the river.
    
    
                                                                           

    well i finally finished round 2 *sigh*
    
    now what do i do? i guess i can go back to noting...
    
    kelly
    
    p.s.  thanks  C.M.  for all the help on this round

    
    	I bought my parents a Nintendo game for X-mas. They just recently
    bought Zelda and they are stuck in 2 places. Can't get thru the
    lost woods. I assume that is the way to the graveyards but can never
    find the way through. Also can't get through the lost hills. There
    must be some sort of pattern that must be followed. Any hints would
    be greatly appreciated, maybe even outright spoilers to the woods.
    Thanks alot.
    
    							 Dana

    re: 103
    
    there is a hint for the lost woods south of the lost woods.
    
    
    Spoiler for lost hills:
    
    Go north.

    Spoilers for lost hills and Forest:
    
    
    
    In the lost woods, go north,west,south,west.
    
    
    In the lost hills, go north 4 times.  To get out, just go west.
    
    
    
    Hope this helps.
    
    
    Don

    
    Its all over for me now.  I've finished Quest 2 and there is no
    Quest 3.  (big sigh)
    
    Has anyone started on ZELDA 2 (The Adventure's of Link)?  Is it
    even available?
    
    Ken
    

      My wife is having a problem with the multi-headed dragon (Gleeok?)
      in Phase II. He is guarding the tri-force in Labryinth 2 and she
      has gone in with full hearts numerous times and has had no luck slaying
      the sucker. She has the magic shield but only the 1st level sword.
      
    -rick_who_is_currently_Metroiding

    Possible spoiler:
    
    I usually stab just at the base of the neck.  Don't worry about
    anything that may fly off him, just keep stabbing.  The white sword
    and the potion make it much easier.
    
    
    Don

can anyone of the guru's on zelda give me hint how to defeat the
digdogger in level 5 1st pass, I 've tried everything i could think of
but no succes

any help appreciated...


		jan

    Is the Digdogger the round thing that spins around the room?
    
    IF it is, spoiler follows
    
    If you blow the flute when you walk in the room, he will become
    small so that you can stab him with the sword.
    
    
    Don

    My wife (Jo-Ann) and I have been working on Zelda for a couple of
    weeks now (I have finished level 8 with 77 lives).  We have noticed
    something about a couple of the level entrances (5 and 6).
    
    Spoiler may follow.
    
    
    
    
    
    
    
    
    
    
    
    
    
    
    
    
    
    
    
    
    
    
    
    
    If you "activate" the correct statue, it will reveal a side entrance
    to that level.  Is there a reason for this, is it for use in the
    second pass, or is it just there?
    
    thanks
    
    Paul

         		-< help >-
     
    	I can not find the letter so that I can by some potion.
        
    Could some one please help me.

    What phase are you on? 1st or 2nd?
    

    I think we have a cartridge with a "dead" battery. The game was
    left in a cold vehicle overnight. The screen flashes but the game
    will not work when inserted. Is there a way to replace the battery?
    Thanks!!
    

    i would call nintendo to see if they can do something for you...
    I had a problem with my cartridge and they said they would send
    me
    a new one... 
    
    good luck
    Buster

    Help!
    
    I am currently working on Phase 2, level 4.  I need hints on finding
    the  "special" item that is located in level 4.  I have already
    found something, but I cannot find the other item.  I believe that
    there are 3 rooms that I have not been to, and I cannot figure out
    how to get there.  I also have not found the map for this section.
    
    
    Any help would be appreciated.
    
    Thanks
    
    Paul R. Haust
    
    (mail or post, which ever is easier)

    I have found what I was looking for in level 4.  I was able to figure
    it out without assistance.  Unique problem.  I never did find the
    map for level 4 however.
    
    Also the number 2 that every one has been eluding to in phase 2,
    is actually the letter Z.  (Think about it)
    
    Paul

    
    	I know that everyone who owns a nintendo system has already
    played and beaten Zelda, twice. I however, am still working on it.
    I am still on the first level. I need help in a big way. I am stuck
    on level 5, the first time through. I am having trouble to beat
    two rooms. The first room has about six blue guys that must be shot
    from the side or back. The problem is that there is no doorway to
    stand in while I try to kill them. I enter the room through a hole
    that I made with a bomb. They kill me every time. I think that I
    need to exterminate these blue guys to get the recorder?
    
    	My second problem is with the protector of the tri-force, Ghoma?
    I have tried to use my sword, no help. I have tried to use arrows,
    as many as 150 and it didn't stop him. I have 9 hearts, my bow and
    arrows, medicine, blue ring, power bracelet and boomerang. I know
    where the magical sword is but I can't take it yet. I am definitely
    getting frustrated. Any help at all, even spoilers, are welcome.
    
    
    							Charlie 

    Re .118:
    
    See .77.
    
    I don't remember:  What's Ghoma look like?
    
                                      
    				-- edp

	If I remember correctly, Ghoma is that large crab-like
	creature with a big eye in the middle.  The trick to 
	killing Ghoma is...


	shoot an arrow into his eye WHEN IT'S OPEN.  If you watch
	closely his eye opens and closes.  I'm almost positive
	(from past experience) that if you shoot his eye when
	it's closed he won't die.  Obviously, timing is critical.
	
	Good luck and let us know how you do.

	John

    I need help!!!!  I,ve been in level 9 now for the past three nights
    with little success.  I have been in every room, have the compass
    and the map but have yet to find the silver arrow or the red ring.
    I've even run up against Gannon a couple times but he disappears
    and leaves me to die in an empty room.  Any help or spoilers would
    be greatly appreciated by my frazzled nerves!!!
    
    Thanks...Mike (hoping to do better tonight)

			      LEGEND OF ZELDA

PHASE 2 QUESTIONS             SPOILERS WELCOME

     I have  completed levels 1 - 3. I have looked everywhere for level 4. I
know  where  level  5 is ,but I can not get to it yet. I am about to give up
could someone please help me with the following information.


     1)...  Location of levels 4 6 7 8 9

     2)... Location  of  extra  heart  accessible from the overworld like the
           first round (if it exists) I know about the heart on the dock.

     3)... Location of the letter to the old lady to buy the medicine.


     If you would like to send the hints via VAX MAIL instead of posting you
message here I would appreciate your help.
                                        
                                     Thank You

                                     Joe

                                     BUSY::JRUSSO

    You might also want to try to stay in the middle of two rows on
    the floor. If you stay within a row they seem to pick up on that
    you are there. (like the snakes)
                                  Mike

    Re 90.0:
    
    There are several ways to get heart containers, but you'll need to
    start by finishing a labyrinth -- just go to the level 1 underground
    area and kill the worst monster in it.
    
    
    				-- edp 

    
    
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SPUD::GAYF                                            8 lines  19-APR-1988 17:44
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    How does one get a heart container? I have been playing Zelda for
    about a week now and have received MANY hearts (in battle) but can
    never keep more than 3. I suspect that a heart container is needed.
    I saw one on the far side of the out-world off the shore, but have
    not figured out how to get to it.. Any help/spoiler/hint with getting
    a heart container would be greatly appreciated.
    
    Frank

    re. .122
    
    	Here is a spoiler on the location of the letter.
    
    Look on your map for somthing that looks like a bowling alley with a
    tree in the middle. Push all the rocks. One of them will be a door to
    the letter.
    
    				Hope it helps...
    				   Pat..

    This is my dad's account.  He is showing me how to use VAXnotes.
    I will try to answer your question.  
    
    FORTEN:  The question was how to get to phase 2 without killing
    Ganon.  The answer is restart your game and write your name down
    as Zelda.  You should be on the second phase.
    
    The Kid
    
    

    
    I'm trying to get an answer on three questions :
    
    1.) How and where can I find the entrance to the last three rooms
    of level 6. I tried bombs the wand etc. but nothing works.
    
    2.) I think the entrance to level 7 is around the "non-fairy-pond".
    Here I tried the candle and bombs too. Please give me a hint.
    
    3.) I know it's possible to get more bombs. I read it in the long
    note too but I couldn't get it.
    
    Thanks in advance
    
    Heinz
    
    

I'll try to answer your 3 questions.  re 5.129
    1.) Keep going up til you get to the rooms with the dinosaurs. 
    Defeat them and bomb to the right.  Then bomb down and bomb to the
    right again.  There should be a staircase surrounded by bricks.
    2.) Level 7 is "in" the "non-fairy-pond.  The emphasis is on IN.
    Blow your whistle in the water will evaporate.  
    3.) In the first mission the most bombs you can get are 12.  In
    the second mission, the most bombs you can get are 16.  Check level
    7 for bombs in the first mission.  
    
    I hope this helps.  
    
    Father's account (DCHEN)
    
    The KID.
    

    
    Again I can't continue the game !!! I have tried everything to
    go into the last three rooms in Level 7 but I can't find a hint
    where the secret passage is ! Could anybody help me !?
         
    Another problem I have is to find a way to the top-right screen.
    I heard that it is reachable by playing with an old man. Is that
    right or what are the prerequisites to get the way.
    
    Thanks in advance
    
    Heinz
    

    The way to get to the top-right screen as follows:
    
    
    
    
    
    
    
    
    
    
    
    
    
    
    
    
    
    
    
    
    
    
    
    
    
    
    
    
    
    
    
    go north young man!

    
    re. 5.133
    
    	Norther then north. I know only one position that'S possible:
    	In the lost mountains. There is no other way to go more north...
        I'll try it ....
         
    			thanks for the help
    
    Has anybody an answer to the secret passage in level 7 (re. 5.132)
    too ?
    
        a despairing link !
    
    
    

    I haven't played this game in months and i can't remember if level
    seven is the level with the tip of the nose hint. If so 
    
    	Spoiler:
    
    Go to the tip of the nose and start pushing blocks.
    
    good luck,
    norb

    Good evening from Florida - The Sunshine State!
                                                   
    Response to 5.129
    
    Hints:
    
    1. By moving blocks in the other rooms of the sixth labrynth find
    the secret passage. After emerging from passage try your bombs.
    
    2. Blow the flute at the pond without the fairy.
    
    3. Carry around 100 rupies and buy them in additional sets of four
    with upto 16 at one time.
    
    Mark (age 15) hasn't played the game in the last four weeks due
    to moving. He'll try these suggestions and verify as soon as possible.
    
    Heinz and son good luck to ya. Let us know if this helps.
    
    Earl & Mark.
    

    
    
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IND::MONDROW                                          6 lines  18-MAY-1988 23:41
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    I desperately need help finding the raft in Lab. 3
    I have gotten the Tri Force Shield and have been in every room
    I can find but still no raft.  I would appreciate any help anyone
    can be.   I think it is in the beginning of the labrinth but
    I am not sure
    Hal

   
    
    	I would like to suggest that you try reading through this note
    on Zelda.  There is a ton of hints and I'm pretty sure that a spoiler
    was added on how to find the raft.   I realize this note is long
    and it will keep on getting longer if people keep asking the same
    questions over and over.
    
    Are there any volunteers out there that would like to compile a
    list of all the spoilers into one note?
    
    Mark

    I appreciate the fact that this note could easily get out of
    control, however on the train last night, I went through all
    5.xxx and found no answer to my question.  Many of the hints
    and possible spoilers deal with more advanced (phase II) issues
    and a relative novice like myself could use some help also. 
    So I once more post the question.  How does one find the raft
    in level three?  Just a pointer to the answer in this note file
    would be fine.  If it is the notes file, then I truly appologize
    and will reread it.
    regards
    Hal

    Could someone please help me out with Level 7, in the 1st quest?
    
    I've been in all but 3 rooms, one of which contains the Triforce
    piece.  I've tried moving rocks and bombing holes in the walls
    of various rooms, but cannot find the secret passageway.  The
    old man says that the secret is in the tip of the nose, but I
    cannot figure out which room is the tip of the nose.
    
    Where is the secret passagway?
    
    Thanx,
    Paula
    
    P.S. My inventory includes the magic boomerang, bombs, bow and arrow,
    whistle, red candle, raft, ladder, blue ring, and the power bracelet.
    

    I'm worse off than you.  I can't even find the red candle.  I am
    certainly open to any spoilers.
    
    In the room with Rhinos, I hear the heartbeat that I ususlly hear
    when next to the triforce piece. After killing these beasts, I cant
    find a doorway and it is not near the triforce piece.
    
    Question 2.
    
    I have 13 hearts.  I will only have 15 after completing 7 and 8
    (assuming that there are only one each in 7 and 8).  Earlier someone
    said that you can get a total of 16.  Besides each level, I have
    found them in in the following locations:
    
      - four blocks east of start,
      - on the raft
      - on the island.
      - there is one more that I am forgetting cause this only
        accounts for 12 total.
      
    Where can I find more?
    
    
    Question 3.
    
    In some caves with heart containters,  The old man says "pick any
    one".  You have a choice of a heart container or medicine.  If you
    pick the medicine, do you ever get a chance to get the heart?
    
    

    Re: .140 by MAGIC::POLLOCK
    
    See note 5.0 which contains all note 619.* from the Games conference.
    Within that note, look at 619.106 and 619.122.
    
    	Stapes

    I've read through all the notes and spoilers related to Level 7, 1st
    quest, but I still cannot find the secret passage to the Triforce.
    I've tried bombing every wall and moving every block down in Level 7,
    but still no luck.  I'm going nuts as I've got the other 7 pieces of
    the Triforce and I cannot continue until I finish Level 7.
    
    Please, can someone give me the exact room and exactly what I need
    to do to find those last 3 rooms in Level 7.  If you prefer, you
    can send me mail (MAGIC::POLLOCK).
    
    -Paula
    Linkette_who's_going_crazy_trying_to_find_Level_7's_secret_passage

    RE: .144
    
    Thanx!
    
    Spoiler???
        
    Do you mean the room that has the blue hands in it that take you
    back to start of Level 7?
    
    -Paula
    

    After killing Gannon, I only had 15 life hearts.  I read in here
    somewhere that there was a total of 16.  Can somneone help me find
    the other one.  My heart inventory was as follows:
    
    3 - start of game
    8 - each of the sublevels.
    1 - overworld L7; cave near the ocean.
    1 - overworld M2; cave located between the dessert and ocean.
    1 - overworld P2; island
    1 - overworld P5; rafts
    -
   15 - Total
    
    My location codes (L7,M2,P2,P5) represent the 128 squares in the
    overworld.  The letter represents the column with A being furthest
    left and P being furthest right.  The number represents the row
    with 0 being the top and 7 the bottom.
    
    Thanks in advance for your help.  BTW, this is for the first game.
    
    /Jim Pappas

Re: .147 by RGB::JIM

You really don't want an outright answer, do you?  How about some hints?

Hint
  0:	It's on the map that comes with the game.  You know, that part of
	the map that's filled in.
	I know - not much of a hint - press return for more.
  1:	Smokey says, "Bring a shovel".  Remember,... never mind, you've
	heard it hundreds of times.
  2:	You must witness what Moses witnessed when he was on the mountain.
  3:	Burn a bush.  This hint should narrow it down to 36 rooms.  Don't
	forget to beat the fire out with your shovel!  Remember, only you
	can prevent forest fires.

If you want hints 4, 5, 6, and 7, send mail.

	Stapes

    
    
    Can anyone have a map of and can help me find the magic key 
    in level 8? I have the rest of the goodies but can't find the 
    key.
    
    wayne
    

    I know that most people have beaten Zelda and that I am in the
    minority,however; does anyone remember where level 4 can be found
    in the 2nd round? I have complete level 1, 2 and 3. I have found
    level 6, 7, and 9 but, level 4 continues to  remain a mystery. I
    have read the hint that you must push a rock. I have the bracelet
    and I have pushed many rocks but apparently not the right one.
    
    	HINTS AND SPOILERS WELCOME!
    
    Charlie

    I'm having trouble finding the red ring in Level 9, 1st quest. 
    I'm also having trouble finding Gannon.  I've been in every room
    but two (room right below where I suspect Gannon is and the room
    where Gannon is).  I cannot seem to figure out how I got to the
    room 2 rooms below the left eye of the skull.
    
    Any and all spoilers would be welcome.
    
    -Paula
    Linkette_who's_getting_her_money's_worth_out_of_Zelda
    

    Thanks to a kind Link, who supplied me with a map, I defeated
    Gannon last night!
    
    -Paula
    A_happy_Linkette_who's_now_going_into_quest_2

    Can someone give me a hint or spoiler on the location of labarynth
    5 in the second quest?  I can't seem to find it anywhere!
    
                                            Thanks in advance,
    
                                              Glen Joyner

    Re."-1
    
    	Spoiler:
    
    
    	Where level 4 was on phase one.
    
    	Do you have the raft?
    If not:
    
    
    	"Walk thru the tri-force wall in level 4."
    
    					Mutant turtles??
    					    Pat..

    My brother just got this game, I've never played it, so please forgive
    me if this question is poorly worded...
    
    How can the Rhinos on level 2 be killed?
    
    I read through all 157 previous replys and saw reference to rhinos
    only once and this did not tell how to kill them.
    
    Thanks, loads!
    
     /\
    /--\ndy (For Brother Geof)

    
    You have to put bombs in front of them so that they eat them. I
    think it take two bombs inside of them to do the trick. Good luck.

    Re 2.87:
    
    > What I'd like to know is what all the millions of people who have
    > Zelda will do when the batteries in their Zelda games run out in five
    > years.
    
    o	Throw it out.
    o	Play it without saving the game.
    o	Throw it out and buy a new one.
    o	Unscrew the case and replace the batteries.
    
    (Has anybody checked to see what batteries are inside?)
    
    
    				-- edp 

I have been through the entire Zelda notes file and have not found an answer 
to this question. In Phase 2 of the game, where are the silver arrows? I 
know that they are located somewhere in level 9 but have had no luck 
in finding them. 

There is a room at the top of level 9 which has two rows of stones which 
travel through the center of the room. If you enter the room from the 
left or center you can move a stone which reveals a staircase on the 
right side of the room. However, there is no way to get over to the 
staircase. If you leave the room and re-enter, the stone is back and the 
staircase is no longer there. 

Any information would be greatly appreciated.
Thanks

Plaese, all you Link masters, I need help!!!
I have found mucho treasure in quest 2, but am unable to find the bow.
Need a major spoiler.

Please! 
A bowless Robin Hood :-(

    I'm putting this in for my husband. He is desperate! He is now in
    phase 2 trying for level 4. We have read thru all of the hints and
    spoilers and still cannot find level 4!! His question is: does he
    need the power bracelet to find level 4 and if so, where is it?!
    Also, where is the letter so we can pick up some medicine? 
    Hints and Spoilers are welcome!!
    
    --Kim and Justin

    Thanks for tip. All done now.
    
    Joe
    

Dear Linksters,

It has happened to me.  I had to put down Zelda and start on Deadly Towers. 
I would love to finish Quest 2, but am still in need of the #%^& bow.  I am 
pleading for your kind help so as Robin Hood may stop his quivering.

Desperate Robin :-(    

    re. 165
    
    Minor spoiler for phase 2

        
    In phase 2, the recorder (i.e. whistle, flute) when played, will open
    up secret doors in the Overworld.
              
    Major spoiler to where Level 4 is located
    
    
    
    Play the recorder at the Lost Hills maze.  Thats the maze location
    in the North-east (i.e. top-right)
    

    I'm sorry, that some of my information in the previous reply is
    incorrect.  I guess I'm suffering from sever confusion, I haven't
    played Zelda for many moons.
    
    Although the recorder is used to reveal many secret doors, it is not
    for Level-4.  I did correctly indicate where the entrance to Level-4
    is located, but the power bracelet is needed to reveal the entrance.

    Dear Linksters,
    I have heard a rumor that there are SECRET WEAPONS in the fifth
    quest. They are known as the iron and magical gloves. As I hear
    the iron glove is like the magic rod and the magical gloves are
    like a killer force field. They are supposed to be located in level
    9. If any of you superlinks know of this help would be appreciated.
    I am currently on the 3rd quest.
    
    thanks in advance,
    
    Damon

    
       I only am aware of two quests.  How do you get to the 3rd
       quest??   5 quests !!!  Wow!
    
    -rick

    Hi gang,
    
    I'm a zelda rookie, and have a couple of questions for you experts.
    
    1.	Is there any way to store hearts? Many times I have full "life"
	and come across other hearts and would like to store them for future
	use.
    
 
    2. I currently have 3 triforce pieces but haven't figured out how
    	to get across the water to the 4th lab. I guess I need a raft,
    	but can't find it. Can someone give me a clue?
    
    Jim   

            
>    1.	Is there any way to store hearts? Many times I have full "life"
>   	and come across other hearts and would like to store them for future
>	use.
    
        Only through buying life-potion.
    
>    2. I currently have 3 triforce pieces but haven't figured out how
>    	to get across the water to the 4th lab. I guess I need a raft,
>    	but can't find it. Can someone give me a clue?
    
        Well, if you need a raft to get to level 4, the raft should be
        (and it is) in level 3.  Enough of a clue?
    
        Paul
    

    Re .172:
    
    > 1.	Is there any way to store hearts?
    
    o	Heart containers.  There is one in each labyrinth plus several
        strewn about the Overworld.
    
    o	Medicine will refill your hearts.  You need to find the letter
    	first, then you can buy medicine.  The cheap kind works once,
    	the expensive kind works twice.
    
    
    				-- edp
                                      

    I found the letter last night as well as the way into the forest
    of Maze and the magic sword. I still haven't found the raft, but
    I didn't make it back to lab 3 last night. You are saying that it's
    in the lab level 3, right?
    
    I'll keep looking. 

    Jim    

    Re .170:
    
    I too am interested in how you got to a third quest. Are you playing
    "The Legend Of Zelda" game?  I have the U.S. version and mine and
    everyone else that I know who has the game has only two quests.
    I have not heard of the other secret weapons you speak of. All of
    us Linksters out here in Nintendoland want to know more about this.
    Let us know ASAP.
    
    Anxiously awaiting
    
    Hawaii_Harry
    

    
    Mark, soory, I created 118.0 when I should have replied. Please
    deleted 118 and I will ask my question in short right now.
    
    	I am in Death Mountain, have the map and compass, and have been
    in every room but 4, three in a row to include the room that I assume
    Gannon is in, plus one room on the top line, and in the middle.
     I have blown holes in walls, pushed every block in the different
    rooms to try to find hidden rooms, and have blown the whistle
    almost in all rooms, but still cannot gain access to the 4 rooms.
    I do have the silver arrows and the red ring from the  two rooms
     not shown on the map.
    
    	HELP!!!
    
    	Hists large or small greatly appreciated.  I want to start fighting
    Gannon, but can't until I get in there!!!
    
    	Thanks to all.
    
    					Mike Blake

        I got through levels 1-8 without mapping.  But you must map level 9
    or it is hopless.  It has been awhile and the map is gone but I seem
    to remember going through at least 3 sub-levels to get to Gannon.
    Once you do it and it is mapped you will have no trouble.  One other
    thing that I did was bomb every wall in every room.  It took a long
    time but I found my way.
    
    Good luck

    I'm trapped in level 4 now.  Do I need to bring lots of bombs to
    get through the walls? I can't seem to get passed the few rooms
    I've found.
    
    Jim

    Could any of you help a lost linkster ?
    
    I have found all the labrynths in the 2nd quest except the last
    (9th).  I've looked everywhere but where it is (at least it seems 
    that way) would someone please help me out ?????
    
    Thanks,
    Brian

     RE: 179
>    I'm trapped in level 4 now.  Do I need to bring lots of bombs to
>    get through the walls? I can't seem to get passed the few rooms
>    I've found.
    
    Sometimes you can just go around by using other rooms.  Some rooms
    you cannot get through.
    
    Paul

    Thanks rjk,
    
    I am quite thankful for your clue !!!!!
    
    Signed,
    A happy Linkster !

Help for the last time.  I am stuck in quest two looking for the bow.  I 
reallllllly need it bad.  Is anyone out ther willing to help this poor, 
almost off the edge Linkster?  Major help, major spoilers all appreciated.  
Don't let me play Deadly Towers before I finish Zelda....

RGS

    I'm slightly puzzled...I gave the letter to the old man in one of
    the underground caves I discovered, and now I need it for something
    else.
    
    Is there more than one letter or did I screw up bigtime by giving
    it away too soon?
    
    I'm on quest one, level 4....almost through it, finally.
    
    Jim

There's only 1 letter, and only 1 use for it. I don't think you can
give it to the wrong person... 

Are you sure the letter is what you need?

Al

    perhaps it wasn't actually a letter. It looked like a letter or
    map or something.
    
    Now I'm really confudled....Well, I'll keep plugging away. I'm still
    looking for the old man in the graveyard. 
    
    Jim

    
    
    I need a spoiler on how to get to level 4 of quest 2.  Someone earlier
    said it was in the lost hills in the room just before level x in
    quest 1.  Level x in quest 1 was 4 rooms up, so I assume level 4
    is the third room.  I pushed every rock and still couldn't find
    it.  I have the blue power bracelet.  Please give me the location
    of this level, thanx.
    
    					Scott.
    

    re. 188
    
      One of us must be confused.  In my game the power braclet is a
    reddish-orange color not blue.  There is a ring of protection that
    is blue.  The entrance to level-4 is from the overworld location
    identified as the "Lost Hills" maze.  Certain levels can be found
    by playing the recorder at the correct location in the overworld.
    But I feel sure that the entrance to level-4 is found by pushing
    a rock at the "Lost Hills" location, and the power braclet is required.
    

    
    I remember reading somewhere in this not about killing the top right
    stone statue, which I did and found the bracelet last night.  I
    found level four.  I found extra hearts by using the whistle in
    certain places, location after FF.
    
    
    
    
    Where all those candles appear in the area where it looks like your
    on sand blow the whistle at each one of these rooms, a couple will
    just be a whirlwind get away from it and try the other rooms.  A
    stair case will appear and a guy will ask you take what you wish,
    your choice is food or a heart container.  One other location has
    the old woman who you get medicine from.
    
    

    RE: .184
>    Help for the last time.  I am stuck in quest two looking for the bow.  I 
>    reallllllly need it bad.  Is anyone out ther willing to help this poor, 
>    almost off the edge Linkster?  Major help, major spoilers all appreciated.  
>    Don't let me play Deadly Towers before I finish Zelda....
    
    It has been awhile and my memory isn't too good but my 8 year old
    son (who has a great memory) is convinced that the bow is in level
    1.  I will try to verify this.
    
    Paul

    RE: .184
    
    The bow is in level 1, all the way up and to the left.
    
    Paul

    Dear fellow NES users,
    
                          Regarding my previous note (5.170). there
    has been a misunderstanding, by saying I'm on the third quest I
    mean that I have just kept going after completing the second quest.
    the third is exactly like the second quest. As far as the fourth
    and fifth I have no knowledge. I heard of secret weapons from a
    friend and he heard it from his friend and so on. So from there
    I came to my fellow linksters.
    Although if these secret weapons are real and anybody knows of them
    I would like to knowof them.
    
    Sorry to disappoint you and get you all exited.
    
    :-(   Damon

    Re: .192 by USMRM4::PKADOW
    
    Reread .184 and you will see that the request is for the bow in
    quest ***TWO***.  The bow is not in level 1 for quest two.
    
    Re: .184
    The bow in quest two:
    
    You get the bow after you need it.
    
    You have to go past a Ghoma first.
    
    It is in level...
    
    five.
    
    	Stapes

    
    Help!!!!! I have spent the last two evenings looking for level 7
    on the secound pass, I have burned everything but the game, any
    hints or spoliers would be gladly accepted, btw I did get the 
    tri force in 8 but need to get the treasures out of there. Thanks
    in advance.
    
    kendall

    Still on quest 1 but now on level 6....any good ways to kill those
    ghosts? 
    
    Jim

    What I do is see where they appear when you enter the room and then
    move out from being in front of them when they give of that sound
    wave.  As soon as the sound, run up to the closest and zap him (or
    her) with you sword before the vanish.  If you kill the correct one, 
    they all die. This technique is a little difficult in the screen with 
    multiple monsters though.
    
    Bruce
             

    
    RE: 197
    >   Still on quest 1 but now on level 6....any good ways to kill those
    >   ghosts? 
    
    Ghost were real hard for me.  I found that it was easier to complete
    level 7 first, then I had enough hearts to get the more powerful
    sword from the graveyard.  Then I went back to level 6.
    
    Paul

    Re .197:
    
    It's been a long time, but as I recall, it went something like this:
    Wait for them to appear, move aside one square, run to one, and hit it
    from the side.  I believe a good weapon is the same as the one they
    use.
    
    
    				-- edp

    What gets me is those blue ghosts....they shoot you in the back.
    
    Also, those Jellyfish looking things keep eating my sword and I
    have to go collect money to buy a new one.

    Maybe I'll play some more tonight.
    
    Jim

    RE:197
    
>   Still on quest 1 but now on level 6....any good ways to kill those
>   ghosts? 
    
    I also found it helpful to blow the whistle as soon as they appear.
    This freezes them (and me too) but gives me another second to think
    about how to get in a position to attack and also avoid their attack.
    
    Paul

    Need help with phase II, level 8 - I can't find a way to
    2 rooms, on left edge of map, which I think contain the
    wand - I've been everywhere else, gotten the triforce and
    the other treasure.  I though I'd bombed every wall and
    pushed every stone, etc, but I must have missed something -
    where is the entrance to those rooms??  Thanks.
    
    ..........steve
    

    Just bought the game a few days ago and here is my problem:
    
    On level 5 (first round), there are three digdoggers (slow 
    dinosuor with spikes) guarding one room. There was one of
    these guarding the triforce room on level 2 and I killed
    him by stunning him with a bomb and then stabbing him.
    This doesn't seem to be working now. I have 9 hearts and
    the blue ring (which turns Link's suit blue), and the 
    second(?) sword. Still no luck. Any advise?
    
    						mark
    

    Re .204:
    
    You might have accidentally killed the digdoggers another way and
    stabbed at the same time, so you only think the stabbing killed them.
    Hints follow.
    
    Use the bombs; they are sufficient.
    
    Get the digdoggers to eat them.
    
    It takes two bombs to kill a digdogger.
    
    
    				-- edp 

    re: dodongo's (or whatever they're called)
    
    One bomb is sufficient and they don't have to eat it. Remember,
    they don't like smoke...well, if it blows up in front of them, it
    stops them and you can kill them with the sword.
    
    Jim (who's still stuck at level 6..damn those jellyfish things)

    here's a little tip that you can try when dealing with the
    "Like Likes" (i think thats the name for those jellyfish)
    
    
    
    Hit them with your boomerang and then attack with your sword or
    your arrows.  if they start to move hit them again with the boomerang.
    
    I have never lost my shield to them doing it this way....

    I tried that. It's the best way to handle them. The problem I have
    is that I turn to run from a ghost and run right into one those
    critters....

    HELP!!!!!!!!!
    
    I borrowed Zelda from a friend of mine for the long weekend past
    and I got up to level 5 (1st round).
    
    The problem is I can't find the flute!!!!!  Prior notes allude to
    it being in level 2 but I can't find it anywhere.
    
    Please point my nose in the right direction.
    
    Jeff

    It's not in level 2, it's in level 5....
    
    Question:
    
    How many hearts do I need to get the magic sword from the man in
    the grave? I finished level 7 last night and now have, I think,
    11 hearts. I still haven't finished level 6....
    
    Jim

    RE:-1
    12
    KENDALL

    I must have missed a heart in the overworld somewhere. I started
    with 3, got one for labs 1,2,3,4,5,7. Thats 9. I found one on the
    raft and one I bought or something.
    
    Is there another one in the overworld somewhere?
    
    Jim

    Ok, so the flute is in level 5.  There are several rooms in the
    North area that I can't find a way into.  By accident, I bombed
    a hole where there was no room and voila, a room telling me that
    arrows have magical powers.
    
    So,  I can't kill the one-eyed spinning thingy, and I can't find
    a way in several rooms (probably where the flute is).
    
    HELP!!!!!!!!!
    
    Jeff
    

    Re: 213                                                  
    
    Hearts, use the ladder to step accross the water for one,
            one accross the water from the loading dock,
            bomb somewhere on the bottom row,
            bomb a big rock upper right had corner.
    
            (some clues huh?)
    
            there is still one I cannot find.
    
    Paul
            

    Boy, after I got that magic sword I cruised through lab's 6 and
    8. Now in Lab 9.
    
    Expect to rescue Zelda sometime next week.
    
    Jim

    Re .214
    
    Persistance is the key.
   	 	____________Spoiler follows______________
    
    Once your in the cave at level 5, go north and then west 3(?)
    rooms. The "blue meanies" are in there. You must kill them all to
    to move the stone and go down the stairs.
    
    		___________another spoiler follows_______
    
    Go south and get the key.
    Come back out and go west again!
    You will find another room of "blue meanies" there as well gaurding
    another stone.
    
    Keep on getting them "blue meanies"!!!

    re .214
    Jeff, I've just finished - both phases.  I have maps, clues, a
    fresh memory, etc.  Come on by if you want to talk.
    
    ..........steve
    

    I'm looking for a spoiler.  I'm in the second phase level 9.  I
    never found the wand in level 8, and I can't find the silver arrows,
    or the red ring in level 9.  I have found gannon though.  I would
    like to know how to find the arrows, and ring.  If I need the wand
    then I would be interested in how to find it.
    
    Thanks,
    Dave

    Hello,

          After about 10 hours or playing inside of level 9 on the first quest
     I managed to make a map found the red ring and silver arrow but could not
     find the entrance to four rooms in the map. 

     If you already finished Level 9 on the first quest please read on 
     otherwise major spoiler follows the <FF> form feed.


     Once again major spoiler follows the <FF> form feed.
     Please do not read if you have not completed level 9 on the first quest.



     The four rooms in the map which I can not find any way in are 
     the: 
          D1, C4 (the left eye), C5, and C6
     I also did forget the room where the silver arrow was.
    
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     Please do not read if you have not completed level 9 on the first quest.



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       7   # # # # # # 
       8   #   # #   # 


   Here is how my map looks like:

   Symbol   Meaning
   ------   -----------------------------------------------
    *       location where I bomb was exploded
    [  ] or
    -
    -       existing door
    (  ) or
    ^
    v       opening was created as a result of a bomb explosion
    U.P.    Underground Passage
    ?       Could not find a way into this room


    Once again major spoiler follows the <FF> form feed.
    Please do not read if you have not completed level 9 on the first quest.



       A        B        C        D        E        F        G        H
   +--------+--------+--------+--------+--------+--------+--------+--------+
   |        |   *    |EYES OF |        |        |        |GO TO   |        |
   |        |        -THE SCUL|        |  U.P.  | U.P.   ^THE NEXT^ U.P. TO|
1  |   ?    |*       -L HAS A |   ?    |  TO A4 | TO D7  vROOM    vRED RING|
   |        |        |SECRET  |        |   *    |        |        |        |
   +--------+--[  ]--+--[  ]--+--------+--------+--------+--[  ]--+--(  )--+
   |   *    |        |        |   *    |   *    |        |        |        |
   |        |        |        -        |  U.P.  -        - PATRA  |        |
2  |*      *|        |        -       *|  TO F6 -        -        |*      *|
   |        |        |        |        |        |        |        |        |
   +--(  )--+--[  ]--+--[  ]--+--[  ]--+--[  ]--+--(  )--+--[  ]--+--(  )--+
   |        |        |        |        |        |        |        |        |
3  |* U.P. *|        ^        -        ^       *|        -        ^ PATRA  |
   |  TO B7 |        v        -        v        |        -        v        |
   |   *    |        |   *    |        |        |        |        |        |
   +--------+--[  ]--+--------+--[  ]--+--[  ]--+--(  )--+--[  ]--+--(  )--+
   |        |        |        |        |        |        |        |        |
4  |  U.P.  ^        |   ?    |        ^       *|        |        ^       *|
   | TO E1  v       *|        |*       v        |        |*       v        |
   |        |        |        |        |        |        |   *    |        |
   +--[  ]--+--[  ]--+--------+--------+--------+--------+--------+--[  ]--+
   |        |        |        | PATRA  |   *    |   *    |   *    |        |
5  |        -        |   ?    |HAS THE |        -        -        |        |
   |        -       *|        |* MAP   |*       -        -       *|*       |
   |        |        |        |        |        |        |        |        |
   +--[  ]--+--[  ]--+--------+--(  )--+--[  ]--+--(  )--+--[  ]--+--[  ]--+
   |        |        |        |        |        |  U.P.  |        |        |
6  |        -        |        |*       |*       ^  TO E2 ^        |        |
   |        -       *|   ?    |        |        v        v        |*       |
   |   *    |        |        |        |        | MOLDORM|        |    *   |
   +--------+--[  ]--+--------+--[  ]--+--[  ]--+--------+--[  ]--+--------+
   |        |        |   *    |        |        |        |        |        |
   |        |  U.P.  -        -  U.P.  |*       -        -        |        |
7  |   ?    |* TO A3 -        -  TO F1 |        -        -        |   ?    |
   |        |        |   *    |        |        |   *    |        |        |
   +--------+--[  ]--+--------+--[  ]--+--------+--------+--[  ]--+--------+
   |        |        |        |        |    *   |        |        |        |
8  |   ?    |  U.P.  |   ?    |        -  U.P. *|   ?    |*      *|        |
   |        |* TO E8 |        |*       -  TO B8 |        |  START |   ?    |
   |        |        |        |        |        |        |        |        |
   +--------+--------+--------+--------+--------+--------+--------+--------+

Enjoy,

Kostas 

    RE: .219
    
    The wand is in level 8, but I can't remember where.
    
    As for level 9, here is the answer.
    
    <MAJOR SPOILER FOLLOWS!!!!>

    Get into that room with the message that says "Go To the next room".
    Walk through the wall on the left.
    In the next room, walk through the wall again on the left.
    In the next room, push the left hand rock and go down there.  Either
    the ring or the arrows are there (I think it is the ring).
    Go back up and bomb a hole in the right wall.  You'll be in a room
    with this thing that looks like a bee with a bunch of things swirling
    around it.  Kill it and the door will open, but don't go into that
    door.  That's where the monster is (You can't kill him yet because
    you don't have the silver arrows).  Bomb up.  There is a room with
    those blue balls.  Push the stone.  Go down the passage way.  In
    the next room bomb up.  Then bomb left.  Possible bomb left again.
     this will bring you into the eye.  Kill whatever is in there and
    go down the passageway.  This is where either the ring or arrow
    is (Which ever you didn't get in the other room).
    
    Hope you can understand this and hope t helps.
    
    Holly
    

Hello Linksters,

It has been sometime since I last picked up the old control, and have found 
myself stuck in Quest 2 Lab 7.  It seems that I can not find the triforce.  
Any type of major spoiler would be most welcomed.  Also, where might Lab 8 
be?
Thanks :-)

    Help, 
        can anyone provide any help on Level 9 Quest 1? Reply 5.220
    has my current status with the map of level 9 up to now.
    I can not continue any farther.
    /k
    

    RE: 233  Did you bomb every wall of every room?  I don't remember
    the specifics of Level 9 but I remember at least 3 or 4 (maybe more)
    secret passages.  And to get to Gannon you need to go thru 2 or
    3 of them.
    
    Paul

This note has been moved by the Moderator.  Please lets keep all topics
pertaining to Zelda under one note....
    
    thank you
    
    
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    Need some help please.   Been looking for a week for LAB 3 of the
    second quest, and seem to finding everything but.  I really need
    a break from bombing and setting fires so could someone please tell
    me where its located?  
    
    Thanks Bruce
       
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CADSE::VOWLES                                         2 lines  13-SEP-1988 14:30
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LAB 3 IS WHERE LAB 2 USE TO BE BUT YOU NEED THE WHISTLE OR RECORDER
    TO FIND THE DOOR.

re:< Note 5.222 by CSSE::SHULMAN >
>                         -< Quest two for me and you >-
>
>Hello Linksters,
>
>It has been sometime since I last picked up the old control, and have found 
>myself stuck in Quest 2 Lab 7.  It seems that I can not find the triforce.  
>Any type of major spoiler would be most welcomed.  Also, where might Lab 8 
>be?
>Thanks :-)

I was on quest 2, lab 9 when my son's friend wiped the game (sure wish
they had a protect switch!!!).  Seems to me Lab 7 required a sequence of
passages and going thru a wall to get to the triforce, but I don't remember
for sure

spoiler..

level 8 needs a bomb on the cliff wall beside a river.  Need the ladder
to bomb the wall.

    Hello,
    
         after help from John T. Stapleton whose map of Level 9 quest 
    1 was far more superior than mine I have managed to dust Ganon and
    save Zelda for now.
    
    Major spoiler follows the <FF>
    Please do not read if you have not finished level 9 quest 1
    
    If you read reply #'s 5.220 and 5.223 and want to find out how I
    managed to get into the four rooms as they were marked on my map
    (i.e. D1, C4 (the left eye), C6, and C7 ) read pass the <FF
    
    Major spoiler follows the <FF>
    
    
    Get to the room on the map marked E1 and bomb the last remaing place
    which is the left side of this room. This wil allow entrance to D1
    and from D1 you will be able to get to C7 where you must kill the last
    PATRA so that you can enter to C6 where Ganon is. After dusting
    off Ganon you will be allowed to enter C4 (the left eye), put out
    the fire and save Zelda.
    
    Before I entered the room D1 I managed to turn on the VCR and recorded
    my rescue of Zelda on tape so I can watch it over again.
    
    Enjoy,
    
    Kostas
    

    I just got the game a couple of days ago, and I have no idea of
    how to get to Level five.  I know where it's supposed to be; it's
    right in front of the "Lost Hills," and I don't know of any other
    entrance.  It's probably in here, but I don't really feel like getting
    spoilered to death.  Thanks!
    
    -- Jim DeSelms
    

    RE: 5.228
    
    A mild spoiler:
    
    The man in the waterfall says "go up up up up the mountain ahead".
    
    
    A larger spoiler follows:
    
    Go into the lost hills and keep going up.  After going up 4 times,
    you will emerge into the level 5 entrance.
    

    HELP...
    
    	Any hints on how to get the BIG CRAB at the end of level 6.
     I have gone in with full hearts... I know you have to get it when
    his eye opens up, but how many times do you have to hit him in the
    eye???????  Every time I get close enough to hit the eye, I get
    creamed with those rocks he throws...
    
    frustrated.....
    
    LR

    Re .230:
    
    Use the correct weapon.
    
    
    				-- edp

    RE .230
    LARGE SPOLIER
    
    
    
    
    
    
    
    
    
    
    
    PLAY WILLAM TELL WITH HIM(RIGHT IN THE EYE)
    
    KENDALL

    Where is the entrance to Lab 2 in quest 2?
    
    JoJ

    re:-.1
    
    Never mind....
    
    Boy, it's frustrating only having 4 hearts. I'd forgotten what it
    was like to have to hit every creature numerous times to kill it.

    I wish I had the magic sword...
    
    Jim    

< Note 5.228 by LEWEY::DESELMS >
                            -< Getting to level 5? >-

    I just got the game a couple of days ago, and I have no idea of
    how to get to Level five.  I know where it's supposed to be; it's
    right in front of the "Lost Hills," and I don't know of any other
    entrance.  It's probably in here, but I don't really feel like getting
    spoilered to death.  Thanks!
    
    -- Jim DeSelms
    





   re - 5.228 



        go up up and away!!!!!

    Can anyone out there help me with the location of Lab. 8 of level
    2?  
    
    Thanks
    Bruce
    

    SPOLIER::RE-1
    
    
    
    
    
    
    
    
    
    
    
    
    
    
    
    
    
    
    
    
    
    
    
    
    Try bombing west of the waterfall.
    KENDALL

    My friend and I are totally stuck on phase two, If the bracelet
    is across the river and you need the ladder to get there which is
    in six and to get to six you need the ladder also.  Now I have heard
    about walking through the back of the tri-force walls, but how can
    
    I get to four if I need to push the rock which I can't get to 
    because I can't get to the ladder - going crazy - I know we
    are overlooking something simple I will take any kind of hints.
    
    Thanks
    
    EXTREMELY confused!
    

    if you work your way around the left side and then up and back to
    your right, you should be able to get the bracelet without needing
    the ladder.

How can I get to four without the bracelet, when I thought you
    needed it to push the rock?
    

    Last night I decided to try working my way aroung, it is impossible
    to get near that area without a ladder, there are many dead ends
    where the bridges lead.
    

    Please help us, we are stuck at the fourth level, I can't seem
    to find a way there, we are still without the power bracelet
    and I still don't see a way to obtain it, we are getting a 
    little baffled and are thinking of putting it down.
    
    Stuck in the overworld!
    

         Have you tried to go EAST from the graveyard?
    
    KENDALL

    I've recently gotten a copy of Zelda, and my Wife (200+ games) and
    I (120+) are totally hooked. At the risk of getting a spoiler, I'd
    like to know whether it's worth the price (250 rubies) to buy the
    blue ring? What does it do for me? Is it cheaper in other caves?
    Or should I search for the red ring instead? Any tips would be
    appreciated..

    Yes, the blue ring is well worth the price.  When I re-played zelda
    last time, it was one of the first things that I bought.
    <Spoiler follows>
    
    The blue ring gives you twice as much resistance to getting killed.
    ie, if getting hit by a creature makes you lose a half a heart,
    then with the blue ring you need to get struck twice to lose a half
    a heart.
    <Spoiler follows>
    
    Getting money is very easy to do in zelda.  One of the best places
    to go is to level 2 and keep running arround and picking up coins
    from the snakes.  Often, I will just run through the first few rooms
    and then leave, then return, etc.  You can get to 250 coins in no
    time.
    
    /Jim Pappas

    Our problem is we can not get to the graveyard, we get stuck in
    the lost forest, is there a way to get through the lost forest?
    We have got so frustrated that we have set Zelda aside for the
    time being and purchased Wizzards and Warriors, but we really 
    want to finish Zelda. Help
    

re: -1
    spoiler follows
    
    if memory serves me correctly once you get to the lost woods take
    the following path....
    
    go  NORTH, then WEST, then SOUTH, then WEST...
    this should get you out of the lost woods... to get to the graveyard
    from there simply keep going north....

    Thanks, we will try this at lunch today.  I have not found Wizzards
    and Warriors to my liking, I miss saving my little powerful link.
    
    

    
      Quest 1:  Is the only way to the graveyard via the lost woods?
    
    I have gotten to level six without going that way.  Is the graveyard
    
    any screen area with white figures on a gray backround ?  In these
     
    areas, if i bump one of the figures a ghost appears.  Exactly where
    
    do I  find the more powerful sword. (can't get thru level 6 w/o
    
    it) I haven't played the game in weeks because of this frustration.
    
    I'll swallow my pride and take an explicit spoiler to get over this
    
    hump.
    
    						thanks in advance
    
    						mark
    

    re: -1
    
    The magical sward can be found in
    <spoiler follows>
    
    the graveyard which is furthest north and east.  You push one of
    the gravestones away.  I believe it is second from the top and right.
    You can easily tell since it will not release a ghini (ghost). 
    BTW, make sure you hit the gravestones from the top, so that you
    do not get hit by the ghinis.
    
    /Jim Pappas

    Going through the lost woods in the "secret way" does indeed
    work, thanks so much.  Hooked on Zelda once again!
    
    Kim
    

    I can't seem to get by the rhinos (Digdoggers?) in lab #5. Before
    I drive myself crazy, can someone tell me whether I have the correct
    armament to kill them? (I don't want to know how...I just need to
    find out if I'm wasting my time with my current weaponry!) I have
    the following: 8 bombs, bow w/wooden arrow, 170+ arrows (rubies),
    magic boomerang, red bottle, power bracelet, blue candle, blue ring
    and meat/bait, (as well as raft, ladder, note, 5 keys). I'm going
    into the labrynth with 9 heart containers (all full), and with all
    the above have only been able to kill one rhino somehow, although
    I can't duplicate how I did it...
    
    Also, I've found a way into the room they are guarding by entering
    it from the right side by blowing holes in the left walls of the
    other rooms. I'm then faced with 8 trolls guarding the rocks
    surrounding a passageway. (which I assume will take me into a cave
    containing a piece of treasure...the whistle maybe!) Again, with
    the weaponry I have listed above, can I kill these trolls and move
    a stone to gain access to the cave? 
    
    Any help you can give (w/o spoilers) will be appreciated. My wife
    and I are each stuck at the same point and she is ready to burn the
    Zelda cartridge in the fireplace (she was mumbling something about 
    sacrifices to the gods, and warding off evil spirits...)

    
    Freddie

    
    Lay a bomb right in front of one and when he eats it 
    and the bomb explodes (you'll see the rhino puff up)
    kill it right away with the sword.
    
    				Scott.
    

    Well I wasn't going to do this, but I could sure use a little help
    on the 2nd quest of Zelda.  I have managed to find just about
    everything, except for the magic sword.  I have found all the heart
    containers, and am currently working on lab. 6.  Could somebody
    give me a little bit of a hint on where I can find the magic sword??
    Please no outright spoilers, just a little hint.  Like the general
    area it can be found.  
    
    Thanks in advance!
    
    Todd
    
    p.s.  If you would rather send mail than post it here - CSSE::BOLTON

    you'll find the magical sword to the left of where you found the
    white sword......

    
     Quest 1, Lab 6.
    
    	I got the tri force w/o visiting every room by way of
        an underground passage.  I then came back in and visited
        all rooms and pushed every stone (I think).  My question
        is, why didn't I find anoter weapon or magical item (sceptor)?
    
    	I decided to go on to 7 anyway but I can't get by some guy
        guarding a door.  All he does is say "Grumble Grumble".
        Asside from that, 7 is a piece of cake.  What's the hitch?
    
        mark

    
     . . . one more thing. What would have caused me to lose myu
           magic shield ?
    
           thanks 
           mark
    

    re. -1
    	The reason you lost your magic sheild is most likely because
    of the like-likes(those jelly fish things).  They eat magic shields.
    You probably got swallowed up by one of them.
    
    	As far as the item in lab. 6 goes, I am pretty sure that is
    where you will find the magic wand, but it has been some time since
    I completed this lab. so I am not sure exactly which room it is
    in.  Just keep pushing blocks!  
    
    	The little guy that says "grumble grumble"....It took me a little
    time to figure this one out...Think about what he is saying...the
    answer to what you want lies in the interpretation of what is being
    said.
    
    re. 5.257  Thanks!! I think I know where to go now!!!
    
    Todd

< Note 5.254 by CYCLPS::CHALMERS "2:00 to go in the 4th Quarter and no time outs left"" >
                     -< Help needed: Level 1, Labrinth 5 >-

    I can't seem to get by the rhinos (Digdoggers?) in lab #5. Before
    I drive myself crazy, can someone tell me whether I have the correct
    armament to kill them? (I don't want to know how...I just need to
    find out if I'm wasting my time with my current weaponry!) I have
    the following: 8 bombs, bow w/wooden arrow, 170+ arrows (rubies),
    magic boomerang, red bottle, power bracelet, blue candle, blue ring
    and meat/bait, (as well as raft, ladder, note, 5 keys). I'm going
    into the labrynth with 9 heart containers (all full), and with all
    the above have only been able to kill one rhino somehow, although
    I can't duplicate how I did it...
    
    Also, I've found a way into the room they are guarding by entering
    it from the right side by blowing holes in the left walls of the
    other rooms. I'm then faced with 8 trolls guarding the rocks
    surrounding a passageway. (which I assume will take me into a cave
    containing a piece of treasure...the whistle maybe!) Again, with
    the weaponry I have listed above, can I kill these trolls and move
    a stone to gain access to the cave? 
    
    Any help you can give (w/o spoilers) will be appreciated. My wife
    and I are each stuck at the same point and she is ready to burn the
    Zelda cartridge in the fireplace (she was mumbling something about 
    sacrifices to the gods, and warding off evil spirits...)

    
    Freddie






	Freddie

   In the labrinth there is a man that says digdoggers(rhinos) hate smoke.

			Think of something that creats smoke when used

	That the best I can do without giving you a spoiler...


					Richard

    Read other replies to this note. It has been answered before.
    

    Re .262:
    
    Learn to read yourself; .261 was an answer, not a question.
    
    
    				-- edp

    re: -1:
    		Right on! That's tellin' him...
    
    This next item may belong in the joystick note, but I'm only interested
    in how it functions for Zelda...
    
    Does anyone use the adapter overlay that turns your controller into a 
    joystick? Does it enhance the game? Thanks in advance...
    
    
            Freddie

    I SAW THIS FILE WHEN MY DAD WAS LOOKING THROUGH HIS INDEX. I DON'T
    HAVE THE GAME BUT MY FRIENDS DO. SOME HAVE ALREADY PASSED THE SECOND
    QUEST AND ARE GETTING REPEATS OF EARLIER QUESTS. OTHERS ARE STLL
    WORKING ON THE SIXTH TRIFORCE.
    ALSO,IN THE OVERWORLD(NEAR THE FAIRY)WHICH TREE ARE YOU SUPPOSED
    TO MOVE OR BURN?
                   - BOBBY BARNARD
                    

    I need help on the technique to kill Ganon the second time around.
    I am doing everything I did the first time but have been trying
    for about two week without success.   When I enter the room I
    stab with the highest level sword and when gannon is hit he appears
    on the screen in a green color.  If you hit him three time he is
    green,  the fourth time he turns brown.  Once this happens, I've used
    the magic wand, bombs, arrows, magic flute, and nothing seems to
    work.   I always enter with full hart cells, and two refills but
    Ganon always wins!    Hints please.
    
    Thanks
    Bruce
    
    

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                        {ONE ANSWER}
    
    TO GET THE RAFT "I THINK" YOU HAVE TO MOVE A ROCK IN THE LABYRINTH
    (LEVEL 4),OR IS THAT THE BOOMARANG? ANYWAY KEEP EXPIREMENTING

                            BOBBY

    Its the silver arrow trick Huh!  I seem to have missed it along
    the way,  can someone give my a clue on where it is or do I have
    to go through all nine levels again?  Perish the thought!!
    
    Thanks Bruce                                               
    

    No need to go through all 9 levels.  The silver arrow is in labrynth
    9, you just have to find it.

    Can't seem to find the way to the triforce segment in level 8.
    All rooms close by don't have doors facing the right direction,
    and
    I tried bombs but still can't get there. 
    
       Looking for spoiler!
    

    Level eight is loaded with secret passageways to all part of the
    lab.  Push on all of the objects in the center of each room and
    you'll eventually find them all!
    
    

    Hi,
    
    Having only just got Zelda (it's only just released here in the UK)
    I would like to ask two very basic questions.
    
    Firstly, when I reach a room in the first level of the underground
    and I want to save the game I get to the Continue/Save/Retry menu,
    select SAVE and finish by holding in RESET and the power off.
    However when I got to restart I find myself at the top of the waterfall
    but I still have all my belongings (bombs, ribies etc.) How can I save
    the game and then restart not only how I left off but also WHERE I left
    off. I'm getting tired of having to go through all the over ground to
    the steps time and time again.
    
    Secondly, how does Link get more then three life hearts.
    
    Thanks for any hints tips from more experienced Links.
    
    Cheers,
    
    Richard.

    Your get more hearts as you go up in experience levels.
    
    I'm not sure about the save games thing as I don't own ZELDA.
    
    Chris
    
    

    Re .273:
    
    You cannot save your location in the game.  It always starts you at the
    same first room.  After you have played a bit, travelling the Overworld
    will become a lot easier, since you will have stronger weapons, more
    defensive power, and more hearts.
    
    To get more life hearts, find heart containers.  There is one in each
    labyrinth plus several available in other places.
    
    
    				-- edp

    Where is the 16th heart container in the 1st game? I can't find it 
    anywhere!
    
    					Any help would be greatly
    					appreciated,
                                                 
                                        		Jeff
    					
    						

    OK, I need help bad!
    
    I got LoZ last week and after playing on and off since then I have
    managed to reach Lab. 5 without too much of a problem.
    
    However I can't get to the whistle under ground. I understand it is
    down the stairs guarded by Darknuts in one of the leftmost chambers.
    Can anybody either tell me how to kill these SOB's (I've lost count how
    many times they have got me despite being loaded with hearts, bombs and
    arrows) or wether I can proceed without out it for a while until I am
    stronger. It's getting to the point where I am no longer enjoying this.
    
    Any help at all (even MAJOR spoilers) to get me past these swines
    would not only keep me from the psychiatrists couch but also prevent me
    from sticking a brick through the screen. I'm almost ready to pay
    someone to come over and kill them for me (not quite, but almost :-)).
    
    So in summary then,    HHHHEEEEEELLLLLPPPPP!
    
    Thanks,  
    
    Richard.
    someone over to do it for me
    

    
    
    Having trouble when facing Gagnon.(spell?) When I enter the room
    he appears for only 2 seconds, then disappears. I am left fighting
    nothing and can't leave the room till I'm dead. (doors close behind
    me)
     Spoilers welcomed.
    w
    
    

    
    RE:.278
    
    This note will have the complete answer on how to kill gannon, i'll
    put it in different steps with ff's.
    
    <**SPOILER**>
    
    When you face gannon he'll be invisible but still be able to attack
    you, but you still can get him.  What I did was just go nuts with
    the sword, constantly hitting the button and hoping to hit something.
    The next spoiler follows.
    <**SPOILER**>
    
    When he appears after you hit him with the sword, you'll need the
    silver arrow, just shoot him with it and he'll die.
    
    				Scott.
    
    

    
    	I've been playing Zelda for about a week now and have completed
    	level 1 screen 5 (i haven't found 6) ((I found 8 and 9))
        I read a note saying you need the recorder in order to find
        6... Did I miss it down in one of the Labryths??   
    
    
   	I came a cross one room in level 4 ( i think it was 4 ) that
    	didn't have any roaming bad guy, It was pitch dark when you
    	entered the room,  if you stepped in, you walked into a wall
        and were immediately swished between 2 moving spike thingies
    
    	If you flamed the room and backed out it revealed 6 of those
    	spike things,  I spent a little time in there pushing
    	on rocks but nothing happened except me dying a couple of times
    	so I stopped trying and finished the other rooms....Did I miss
    	an important piece somewhere??
    
    	Thanks, Dean
    	

    Somebody please answer .277!  We just got Zelda also and had a marathon
    Thanksgiving weekend playing it.  However my husband and I are headed
    for divorce court if I can't get past those DAMN blue mean guys!
    My husband managed to get the flute but he offers little help to
    me.  This game is driving me crazy!  
    
    Do you go to bed at night seeing little hearts, bombs and sword
    throwing goats?
    
    Help would be greatly appriciated......
    
    Thanks!!!!
    
    Gina
    

Darknuts, A.K.A. Blue Knights = Wimps!!

Mild spoilers follow...


I too suffered for hours until I realized that the only way the kill
the !@#%&* is to have patience.  The key: Make it to the entrance 
with all your hearts, Hide in the doorway, pop out, throw your sword,
keep at it, it takes A LONG time. (15 min-1/2 hour at least). Be patient
you can only hit them when they are moving away from you, otherwise the
sword bounces off them.  If you get to a room where you can't hide in
the doorway, use the blocks in the center to hide behind, keep moving
and try to single out one at a time, taking advantage of all other
easy free shots.  It takes practice, but they're not impossible, the frustrating
thing is once you get them in the leftmost room, move the block, you come
out into another room with a whole new set of them to kill, after them
the whistle is cake to obtain.  Once you come out into the second room
full of them, blast (I think downward, with a bomb, you can them pop out, 
shoot, hide, etc.  Don't give up! I thought this was one of the harder
levels to beat.

    How to get the darknuts in level 5
    <spoiler follows>
    Make sure you have the magical sword.  With this, it takes fewer
    hits to get them.  To get the magical sword, you will need 12 hearts.
    You should be able to have the following:
    
     3	start
     4	lab 1-4
     5	available in the overworld.
    --
    12	enough for the magical sword.
    

    RE:277 How to get blues guys (possible spoiler follows)
    
    
    
    
    
    
    
    
    
    
    
    
    
    
    
    
    
    
    
    
    
    
    
    
    
    
    You may already be doing this, but be sure you have the red potion,
    which is good for restoreing your hearts twice.
    
    Also, it is best to attack this with lots of hearts (get some from
    the overworld if you haven't already done so).
    
    Above all, it takes patience!
    

    my son tim has been playing zelda for about a week now and has
    completed levels 1 thru 5 quest 1 and is having difficulty getting
    thru level 6.  specifically, he need to know how to find gohma..
    any help/hints would be greatly appreciated..  thanks in advance.
    
                                                         john.
    

    re: 286
    I went thru Level 7 before Level 6.  I think it is easier.  Also
    after Level 7 you should have enough hearts to get a stronger sword.
    This will make Level 6 a little easier.
    
    Paul

    
    How do you get the key in level 5 quest 2.  Level 6 has a ladder,
    if I had that I could get the key in 5.  Should I do level 6 first
    or is there another way?
    
    				Scott.
     

    
    
     Anyone mapped out level 9 (quest 1)?
    
     been in there about a dozen times and don't have the patience
     to make my own map.  
    
     have seen what's his name a couple of times
    
     mark
    

    go back and read 5.220   You'll find everthing you need there.
    
    

    After searching and searching for Link, with no success, I went
    out and bought The Legend of Zelda for my son. Excuse my ignorance
    but this game just blows me away. The booklet and the map they give
    you with the game don't help much and only leave more unanswered
    questions. My son is getting frustrated and I can't help him much.
    I have read all the notes on Zelda, but I still am not clear on
    many things. Correct me if I am wrong. The Game has 9 levels of
    play. Levels 1-8 each contain a piece of the Triforce, and level
    9 is where you meet Ganon. There is also an Overworld and a Underworld
    the Labyrinth, I assume. Does the Labyrinth also have levels? Also,
    are most the treasures link needs in the Underworld or Overworld,
    or both? What I am saying is should every square inch of both worlds
    be explored or can some be skipped, and what are the consequences?
    Are there special things needed before the underworld is explored?
    I also read a lot about maps. Are they really that necessary? The
    subscreen seems to give you a idea where you are. I guess what I
    need is a basic understanding of the game, and some helpful hints
    to get started. Any help would be greatly appreciated.
    
    mike

    Re .291:
    
    The book contains the beginning of a game:  It gives you instructions
    on how to find the level one labyrinth.  If you go to this labyrinth
    and work your way through it, most of your questions will be answered.
    
    Not all games are meant to be comprehended in their entirety before you
    begin.  Legend of Zelda is an adventure game; a lot of the
    entertainment is in exploring and discovering for yourself.
    
    Although you will wind up exploring most of the Overworld, you do not
    need to worry about that now.  Legend of Zelda is very well designed in
    the aspect of having graduated levels of difficulty.  If you wander
    into an area you are not ready for, you will be killed quickly.  Avoid
    such areas for a little whlie and go explore something else.
    
    MAKE A MAP.  That's a must.
    
    Eventually, you will be exploring nooks and crannies, especially in the
    labyrinths.  But this will come naturally LATER, when you have learned
    enough about the game to know when you need to search for something. 
    
    For now, just do level one.  Then find a way to get to level two.  The
    manual shows you where it is, but you must figure out what rooms to go
    through to get there.
    
    
    				-- edp 

    Thanks for your input. If I understand your note correctly, you
    can go from level 1 to 2 without exploring the underworld. I assume
    there are consequences to this. Is a map of the both worlds necessary
    or just one? I,m not playing this game, my eight year old is, so
    keep that in mind.Thanks again your input. Its greatly needed.

    From the overworld you will find the entrance (eventually) to each
    of the labyrinths.  The booklet shows you how to find the first
    labyrinth.
    
    In each labyrinth you will find: a piece of the triforce; a new
    weapon or tool; and an additional heart container.  Some labyrinths
    also have some surprises.
    
    The labyrinths (and the enemies therein) get progressively more
    difficult, and may require you to use a weapon or tool gained in
    a previous labyrinth.
    
    I generally do not like electronic games.  However, my son and I
    got hooked on Zelda.  We spent weeks together exploring and conquering
    this game.  For the most part, he worked the controls while I kept
    updating the map.  Occasionally we'd change off.
    
    The game is wonderful.  Now we're expecting "The Adventures of Link"
    for Christmas.  Then we'll begin again.
    
    Regards,
    Don Gresh

     RE: .-2
    

    After reading the last two replys, I am not sure that your question
    was answered.
    
     Let me see if I can help you out...
    
    In ZELDA, you begin in the outer world.  From there, you must find
    the entrances to the 9 different labyrinths, carefully hidded in
    different areas of the outerworld.  Each lab is different from the
    others, both in the layout of the labrynith and in the types of
    enemies and strength/skills needed to conquer them.  Read the replys
    in this note to get an idea of the different types of enemies you
    will come across.
    
    The basic concept is to get through the first eight labryniths to
    find what you need to kill off ganon in the ninth lab. (And it ain't
    easy!!)                          
    
    It's a game that requires cunning, forethought, and patience to
    conquer.
    
    

    Re .295:
    
    As mentioned in .295, there are not just two "worlds".  And you do need
    multiple maps.
    
    The Overworld is where you start.  It is an 8 by 16 array of rooms.  At
    various locations in the Overworld are entrances to nine underground
    labyrinths, each separate from the others.
    
    The easier (lower numbered) labyrinths do not require maps; they are
    straightforwardly laid out.  And each labyrinth contains a map that
    will appear on your subscreen after you have picked it up.
    
    However, the maps do not (for the most part) show the connections
    between the rooms, only the rooms themselves.  So for the more
    complicated labyrinths, you need to make your own map.  In addition,
    the built-in maps are incomplete in the later labyrinths.
    
    When you are mapping the Overworld, you should generally put the rooms
    adajcent to each other, in an 8 by 16 array.  It will also help to
    sketch in some of the details of the rooms, including locations of
    entrances and exits and a bit of the landscape.
    
    When you are mapping the labyrinths, you should generally separate the
    rooms a bit.  Draw them as squares with a bit of white space between
    them.  That way, when you discover a connection between two rooms, you
    can indicate it by drawing a line from room to room.
    
    
    				-- edp 

    Thank you all for your time and effort. I am sure with all this
    info that my son and I will have no problem mastering this game
    (given enough time). I also received a very informative mail message
    from Jim Wardle on node CSC32. Thanks again Jim.
    
    Mike

    No problem, Mike. As I said  in my mail, I've played this game with
    an 8 year old and I understand his (and your) frustrations...
    
    Go get 'em!
    
    Jim

    Well.....
    
    Having finally beaten those damn darknuts in level 5 I went through
    levels 6,7 & 8 in no time (though I found it easier to tackle level 7
    before level 6) and found them slightly disappointing. Does level 9
    hold surprises and/or present more difficult monsters or is it just
    more of the same monsters.
    
    Cheers,
    
    Richard.

    
    To reply further to Mike Monocchi, one of the best aspects of Zelda
    in my opinion is the fact that it is a very 'experiential' game.
    A lot of what you (and/or your son; my kids are 7 and 5.5) are
    struggling with now will soon become old hat BUT, by the same token,
    you will have learned some valuable skills that will be handy as
    the game progresses. As the others pointed out, it's a game of
    exploration and adventure, so don't be afraid to try things. Even
    if you get 'killed', try, try, try again, and then keep trying.
    You'll find yourself being constantly challenged with new things
    as the game progesses, and among the skills you'll learn is an
    intuition as to what those blasted programmers might have plotted
    for you in the next labyrinth. I thought $35 was a rip-off until
    I took the family to a movie the other night. It (Zelda) now looks
    like a real bargain.
    
    Bayard Coolidge
    
    

    <FLAME ON>
    
    I ACCIDENTALLY REMOVED THE CARTRIDGE BEFORE TURNING THE POWER OFF
    AND I LOST EVERYTHING!!!  NOW I'M GOING TO HAVE TO START LEVEL 2
    ALL OVER AGAIN!
    
    ARRRRRRRRRGGGGGGGGGHHHHHHHHH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
        
    <FLAME OFF>
    
    						Scott.
               
    	

    OK, I am looking for the fifth overworld heart container. Previous
    replys to this note would seem to indicate that it is located under
    a tree somewhere. So... I spent about 4 hours burning every tree
    in the entire overworld and I still can't find it. I have the four
    easy ones, one on the raft, three from various caves.
    
    Would somebody *please* enter a reply or send me mail on where the
    fifth one is? If not I fear my next correspondence will be from
    inside the loony bin.                                
    
    Thanks,
    Randy
    aka Tilgor V
    
    P.S. Oh yeah, I'm still on the level one game.

    Never mind.
    
    I found it last night.
    
    Randy

    re:303
    
    I never did find that 5th one, but I finished level 1 anyway.  I
    would like to know where it is.  Perhaps you could send me mail
    or post it as a spoiler.  Thanks.
    
    Ernie

    I have a question on level 8 of the second quest.  I'll post it
    after a form feed in case it's a spoiler to someone.
    
    
    
    
    
    
    
    
    
    
    
    
    
    
    
    
    
    
    
    
    
    
    I can't find the magic key ar the wand.  I have the triforce already.
    There are three (maybe four?  I can't remember) rooms at the far
    left (a vertical column) that I can't figure out how to get into.
    Are these two items in there?  If so, how do I get to these rooms.
    I could swear that I've found every secret passage (7 or 8) but
    nothing leads to these rooms.  A major spoiler would be appreciated.
    Thanks.
    
    Ernie

    > I never did find that 5th one, but I finished level 1 anyway.  I
    > would like to know where it is.  Perhaps you could send me mail
    > or post it as a spoiler.  Thanks.
    

    A spoiler, almost a give-away actually follows the form feed.

    As an aside, getting all of the overworld hearts and those from
    labyrinths 1-4 will give you a total of 12. Thats enough to get
    the magic sword and really makes it easy to defeat those damn Darknuts
    in level 5!    

    
    
    As stated in previous replys the 5th overworld heart is under a
    tree which has to be burned.
    
    It is in a water section that is guarded only by Zola. There are
    never other enemies in the section. As I recall there are no more
    than one or two sections where this is true.
    
    If you want the exact location send me mail.

    Good luck,
    Randy

    re: .305
    
    I found the way to these rooms last night.  Thought I had tried
    everything but there was one thing I didn't try.
    
    Anyway, I'm in to level 9 now in the second quest.
    
    So no one needs to answer 5.305
    
    Ernie

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    We are presently having problems finding the whistle in lab 5. There
    is a room with a stairway leading down surrounded by blocks shaped
    in a diamond pattern. The stairway is guarded by about 6 darknuts
    which you have to beat to move the block and get access to the
    stairway. When we beat the darknut and went down the stairway, there
    was nothing there!!!!!!! The adjacent room has MORE darknuts!! This
    room has a single block in the center of the room. Any advise on
    how to beat these darknuts? Which room is the whistle in? Any help
    would be appreciated.

    Ah yes - level five whistle - bit of a bummer.
    
    I had terrible trouble getting this. My method follows FF
    
    The first room with the darknuts was the worst as you had to fight them
    while you were in the room running around like a bluear*ed fly.
    
    Once you have defeated them, push the block and go down the stairs
    and up the others. The second room of darknuts is easier if you have
    full hearts as you can hide in the doorway and when there are none near
    you, you jump out and fire swords across the room. Don't worry about
    aiming at a perticular darknut, just keep firing. What you should worry
    about is getting back into the doorway before any of then get too near.
    When they have all been defeated you....
    
    Push the middle block to reveal a trap door - go down the stairs
    and there you have it.
    
    Easy eh?
    
    Not really.
    
    Cheers,
    
    Richard.

    I have a question regards the first phase at level nine.
    
    I seem to be getting through an awful lot of Link's getting past all
    the wizzrobes. Is there an easier way to defeat them than the sword?
    
    Also, having obtained the magic book and wand can I learn more spells
    than the fire spell?
    
    Thanks for any help?
    
    Richard.
    
    
    
    
    
    
    
    
    
    
    
    
                                                                  

    The Wizzrobes are hard to beat. The only way I found to beat them
    is with the sword. The trick is not to stand in front of them when
    you are attacking them. When they disappear, and then reappear,
    try to move link to a part of the room where he is not in the line
    for fire of any of them. You have to be fast, but it can be done.
    Attacking them from the back or bottom seems to be most effective.
    I know of no other spells other than fire. If you find out, let
    me know.
    
    
    mike
    

    Can anyone tell me where the 16th heart container is. I have found
    the ones at locations, L4, M2, P2 and P5. I presently have 15 hearts
    and am in Lab 9. Also, are bombing walls and moving stones the only
    way to reveal secret passages in level 9? A simple yes or no will
    do.

    We bought the kids (read parents included) NES and Zelda for Xmas.
    We've been glued to the tube playing Zelda (great game) for the
    last several nites.  We've completed lab 3 and on our way to 4.
    
    However, I've noticed when we are in any of the screens around the
    lake in the SE corner of the over-world a background buzz comes
    on the audio.  It only occurs on the screens around this lake.  Is
    this NORMAL or do I have a defective cartridge?  I tried both the
    direct video hookups and the coax hookup with no change.
    
    Thanx,
    
    ...Ed

    
    	I don't think you have a defective cartridge, My game also
   	makes a noise down there.. more like a growl than a buzz
    	I think it's the guy in the water warning you to stay away??
    
    	dean ,Quest 1 lab 8,
    	
    

    re 5.313
    
    Actually, the buzz is coming from your television set.  I have had
    my Nintendo hooked up to several different TV's.  It's seems that
    the older ones have an audible buzz when the color of the lake
    comes on the screen.
    
    J

    Thanx for your replys,
    
    It appears that I do not have a defective cartridge since others
    have noticed the same noise.  The TV I'm using is only 4 months
    old so I don't believe it has to do with age but I will try it on
    another set.
    
    Thanx,
    
    ...Ed

    I need help on level 9. I've been going around in circles for about
    a week, getting bumped off by the wizzrobes, bombing walls etc...
    I've been in just about every room in the lab and have found two
    obvious sub-level passages that just bring you to other rooms. There
    are about 6 or 7 rooms I haven't been in and I can't find any way
    to get into them using bombs. Are bombs and moving stones the only
    way to find the entrances to other rooms? I've tried moving stones
    in every room I have been in with no luck. Can someone please give
    me a hint?
    
    thanks
    mike

re: .313

    I think it's supposed to waves from the water crashing against the shore!

	
								Dave

    I borrowed Zelda from a friend.  Had it for 1 night and my 4 year
    old decided to zap it by plugging it in with the power ON on the
    control deck, or at least I think it's zapped......
    
    Turn it on, it goes into a short story about the game, then asks
    for names, that's as far as I can go with it.  Of course, my friends
    kids lost the instruction booklet so I really don't know what I
    can do next.  Any ideas, or is it time to send it in the repair
    shop?  Before my son did this, my daughter was playing without
    problems.
    
    Also, anyone try to call the Nintendo 800 number for service?  I've
    dialed it about 200 times in 2 days and always busy.....
    
    John

    Update on 5.317
    
    OK, I managed to find the silver arrow, but I still can't find the
    red ring. There are about 5-6 rooms I haven't been in, according
    the game map, and I can't find any way to get into these rooms.
    I've tried bombing walls in adjacent rooms and moving stones but
    no luck. I know there are plenty of "LINKS" out there that have
    completed this game. Am I missing something? Any help would be
    appreciated.
    
    
    mike

    
    RE: .19
    
    There shouldn't be any problem with the cartridge, what happens
    when you plug or unplug with the power on is that you lose any 
    stored players, so that means if someone was halfway thru the
    first quest they would have to start all over again, it's happened
    to me a couple times and it s*cks.
    
    				Scott.
    
    

    Re .319:
    
    Have you entered names successfully?  After that, have you ended the
    registration mode?
    
    The sequence of a working game is:
    
    Turn power on.  Title screen appears.
    Press Start.  Screen with blanks for names appears.
    There is a heart by the first name (if any) or by the word(s)
    	"Register", "Register Mode", or something similar.
    If the heart is by a name, pressing Start starts the game.
    If the heart is by the registration option, pressing Start goes
    	into registration mode.
    
    In registration mode, use Select to choose one of the blank spaces.
    Once a blank space is chosen, you can enter letters for a name via
    	the direction and A and B keys.
    When you have entered a name, use Select to move the heart to
    	"Registration End".
    Press Start to leave registration mode.
    
    Use Select to pick one of the names.  Then use Start to start the
    	game.
    
    
    				-- edp

    Thanks for the instructions.  I'll give it a shot when I get home.
    Hopefully, worst case is I wiped out where my friend's 2 kids were
    (and hopefully they weren't too far along)!
    
    John

First, let me say that I am new to Nintendo and the Legend of Zelda
as of this Christmas, so I am still on the first quest. I am working
on labyrinth 4, I have the white sword, raft, bridge, blue ring,
8 hearts, wooden arrow.

However, even with the hints found here I am stumped by a couple of
things that didn't seem to be big problems for others.
                                                      
First, I can't seem to get the bow. I have gotten as far as the room
with a staircase surrounded by blocks. I push the far left block,
it moves, a bell goes off, but I still can't get down the stairs. I've
tried pushing and bombing all over the place and I can't get down the
stairs. Based on a previous reply, I thought maybe I have the bow but it
doesn't show up on my inventory screen. 

Second, looking at the major spoiler in .69, there seems to be
"passages" from one place to another in the overworld. I can't seem
to blast, or push my way into these either. How about a hint?
                                                         
Also, if there are other new players out there at about the same
level, it might be fun to discuss the adventure by mail, rather than
ask the relative experts found here. Send mail to KHUFU::EVENSON
or Don Evenson @MWO if interested.
    

    Re .325:
    
    > I push the far left block, it moves, a bell goes off, but I still
    > can't get down the stairs.
    
    Do you mean that, after you have pushed the block, the path from you to
    the opening is blocked?  Next time, push the block in the opposite
    direction.
    
    > Second, looking at the major spoiler in .69, there seems to be
    > "passages" from one place to another in the overworld. I can't seem to
    > blast, or push my way into these either.
    
    Have you found the bracelet?  (Not the rings, the bracelet.)
    
    
    				-- edp

Hi,

I have completed levels 1 through 4.

I picked up the following while in levels 1,3,4:
                    Bow,
                    Raft,
                    Ladder, and while in 2,
                    Silver Boomerang
                    ....
Of course there were hearts,bombs etc... 
    
For the question.. a YES/NO only....
Did I miss something?

thanks
    

    re:  .528
    
    Thanks....  (the boomerang is blue, and I did have the tan one)
    
    
    Dan

    
    
    Thank you thank you thank you thank you thank you to whoever put in the
    note about the overworld heart near the zola. After a week of trying to 
    kill the darknuts in l5 with 11 hearts I found the 12 heart in the over
    world and got the magic sword. Then I conquered both rooms of darknuts
    with only losing 1 heart!!!!!!!
    
    I owe you my sanity!! My advice don't try the darknuts without the
    sword!
    
    
    Barbara

    Ok....I need a little help finding a couple of items.  I've read
    this entire note but can't find what I need.  I've completed the
    triforce, but did not find the extra bombs for sale in 7 or the
    magic key in 8.  I have a feeling the key is in the same room (or
    next room) as the blue crab.  How do you kill that sucker??  There's
    a clue about"the tenth ?? has the bomb".  Is there a special enemy
    that has to be killed to get a special bomb that will kill this
    guy?                                   
    
    
    Any help would be appreciated.
    
    
    Bob

    
    Spoiler on how to kill the blue crab.
    
    You have to kill it with arrows.
    More info follows.
    
    You have to shoot it in the eye when he opens it.
    
    			Scott.
    

    Re: .334
    
         Does this work on the blue crab or just the other, brown /
    gold colored crab?  I tried the arrows but it didn't appear that
    there was an eye that opened and closed...
    
    
    Bob

    
    I need a hint.......
    I've gone through the first four levels (first time around) and.... 
    I can't find the  $%^&* power bracelet
    
    Just a  hint will do - Thanks
    
    Dan

The bracelet is not in the udergroud levels.
    							Mike
    

    RE: .332
    
    Barbara,
    
    You are most welcome. I was ready to give up the game out of sheer
    frustration so I know how you feel. 
    
    Randy

    Thanks for the Hint...
    
    I'll be looking tonight...
    
    Dan

    
    
    RE: .334
    
    You have to watch very carefully at it's eyes, they don't open that
    often and when they do it's for a very short time.  Just stay in
    a doorway so you won't get hit and just watch it's eyes for a while
    and you should understand what I mean.
    
    				Scott.
    

    Re: .340
    
         Thanks Scott....I'll give it a try.  Any idea where the extra
    bombs are in level 7?
    
    
    Bob

    
    RE: .341
    
        
>         Thanks Scott....I'll give it a try.  Any idea where the extra
>    bombs are in level 7?
 
    I don't have a clue, it's been so long.  All I can say is just keep
    searching and also you'll need at least 100 rupies.
    
    
    				Scott.
    

    
    By burning and bombing in the Overworld, has anyone found anything
    ESSENTIAL TO THE GAME other than...
    
    (spoiler follows)
    
    
    
    ...lab entrances and container hearts?  Remember, this is specifically
    about BURNING and BOMBING -- not waking up Armos or pushing boulders
    around.  And bombs, rupies, and medicine can be acquired elsewhere.
    
    Also, can somebody explain to me the meaning of the clue...
    
    (spoiler follows)
    
    
    
    ..."TENTH ENEMY HAS THE BOMB"?
    
    Thanks!
    
      KC
    

    Re: .340
    
         Thanks again Scott...it worked.  I killed the sucker last night
    and got the key!!  Now I just need to find the extra bombs in 7
    and it's back to find Ganon.
    
    
    Bob

    Was just wondering.......
    
    Anyone know if we're assigned an overall maximum number of
    "starts/continues"?
    
    Thanks
    
    

    The counter stops at 255, but you can continue on , and on, and
    on and on...Get the picture..

    re:  .347
    
    Thanks for the info/can "see" the picture.......
    
    Wonder what the record is for first round completion
    
    Dan
    

    I just found this note today (can see how much I read the NOTES!!!).
    
    Just for everyone's information - Nintendo has a number you can
    call (it is in California - so watch your tele. bills!!!)and they
    will help you (to a point)on any game made for Nintendo!!!  It's
    a great help especially late at night when frustration really sets
    in.  By the way - I too have conquered Zelda both levels.  I have
    not found anything yet that is as equal to this one.  
    
    I'm into Super Mario II.  This one is a great one too!!!  Have
    conquered the first level and almost the second but it doesn't "save"
    where you are like in Zelda - each time it is from level 1-1, but
    it is still real good.
    
    The number for Nintendo is 206-885-7529.  The people out there are
    really great (my best friend out there now is Tony).  Nintendo also
    has a great magazine out called Nintendo Power.  It is $15.00 per
    year - 6 issues.  They have great hints - maps - what's new - what's
    coming up - etc.  Anyone interested in joining can call 1-800-521-0900.
    Any questions feel free to contact me at FSOA::MSCHRAM or right
    here on this NOTE.
    
    HAPPY QUESTING!!!!
    
    Mary-Ann
    

    
    Well, I finally defeated Gannon around9:30 last night. Never had to use
    my silver arrow, just the sword.
    
    Here's my problem, could be spoiler if you haven't tried phase 2 lab 1
    
    
    
    
    
    
    
    
    
    I spent about 2 hours playing in phase 2 and could never kill the 
    three darknuts in the upper room. I go left from the  entrance
    bomb up and then down the stairs. Continue to the left and here
    are the darknuts. I wasted 30 games on these guys, can some one help?
    
    Also, I noticed that at least two of the overworld hearts are in the 
    same place in phase two, are all five in the same place??

    
    Could someone possibly give me a spoiler on where the flute is in
    level 2 of the 2nd quest. I've bomed every room and moved every
    block but to no avail.
    
    
    
    Steve

    re .351
    
    MAJOR SPOILER FOLLOWS
    
    
    
    MAJOR SPOILER FOLLOWS
    
    
    To get the whistle in LAB 2, you go straight up 4 or 5 rooms to
    where the big monster is.  Go right(ignore the darknuts).  Go down
    into the next room, and walk straight to the wall, and then WALK
    THROUGH THE WALL!!!  You will find yourself in a room, where you
    will go downstairs, fight off the bats and there is the whistle.

    
    Someome please HELP me!!!
    
    I cannot fine Lab 2 in Quest 2 anywhere!!! I want to make a major 
    assault on Phase2 this weekend!!!!
    
    Barbara
    

    
    Re -1
    
    Remember where the Blue Ring was in the first game....
    
    
    
    
    Steve

    I need help BIG TIME.  I've found all the hearts in Phase 2, but
    I can't find where the blue ring/bait may be.  
    
    Also, I think that I have bombed and burnt every portion of the
    game, but I cannot find the letter.  I am through the first three
    LABS.
    
    I've located Labs 1,2,3,4,5,& 6 but I need help for this weekend.
    
    Thank you very much.
    
    Andy

    re. .-1
    
    The letter is on the top left most corner of the map. You have to
    move one of the statues ( I think is the tale end of a <- shape...)
    
    I got the blue ring myself but I do not remember where. I am in
    level 5 on the second quest. I will let you know tonight when I
    get home if you still can't find out where the blue ring is.
    
    Enjoy,
    Kostas
    

    Re: .356
    
         I been frustrated myself trying to get the ring.  It's in the
    upper right corner ABOVE / BEHIND another entrance....it appears
    like you can't go any further.  The only reason I know is that I
    have a complete map of the Over and Under worlds.  The PROBLEM is
    that you have to have the ladder to get there...I think!  That's
    the way it appears on the map....there's a stairway but it starts
    half-way up the wall.  Of course you have to find the ladder in
    level 5 or 6....I haven't gotten that far yet.  The bait is in the
    same place.   This game is HARD the 2nd time around...even with
    the maps.  Knowing where to go and getting there are two different
    things.  The one advantage is in the underworlds....you can skip
    the unnecessary rooms.
    
    
    Bob

    
    Re: .358   You should be able to get to the merchant selling the
               ring without the ladder.  Humongo hint after <cr>
    
    
         Aim Link up at the wall and start marching. The path should
         be there. You may have to experiment to find the right place
         in the wall.
    
    -rick

         I hope that works!  It would definitely help to have that ring.
    And I spent most of the money I'd saved to buy it.....!!
    
    
    Thanks

    Where is level 5,6,7,8, and 9!!!!???!?!!?!?
    
              Matt
    

    
    My wife and I just finished Quest 2 of Zelda tonight ( Yes, all the
    way thru ). However, if you ask her, she'll say that it was mostly
    me and that I wouldn't let her play. Thanks to all of the pointers
    in the notes entry/plus replies (I can't imagine playing this without
    the help of these pointers). I think I used just pointers as much as
    possible, but HAD to go with SPOILERS at times.
    
    If anyone would like spoilers mailed to them, let me know.
    
    "money's worth" game.
    
    Thanks to all,
    Randy & Susan
    
    P.S. Waiting for Adventure of Link !!
    
    

    
    My kids and I are currently in Quest 2. We've up to level 4.
    
    We haven't been able to locate the blue ring.  
    
    Will is still cost 250 rubies and in what quadrant is it located,
    (NE, NW, SE, SW) - just the quadrant (for now anyway....).
                   
    thx
    Dan
    
     
    
    
    Currently in Quest 2.
    
    

    Re: .365
    
         Go as far North and East as you can....actually go further
    than it appears you can!  Trying to find it had me climbing the
    wall......
         It's 250 rubies.
    
    
    
    Bob

    re -.1
    
    Thanks
    
    Sounds like we'll need a raft  (??)
    
    Dan

    re -.1
    
    Ok............ thanks       
    
    Hopefully I "heard" stairs............
    
    Dan

    Re: .369
    
         Well, yes and no.....keep reading and I'll tell you exactly
    what I mean.  Don't know how to use form feed so I'll just return
    down a few lines......
    
    
    
    
    
    
    
    
    
    
    
    
    
    
    SPOILER:
    
    
    
    
         You have to go as far into the upper right corner as possible.
    This takes you to a screen with trees and an entrance in the middle
    tree.  You have to go BEHIND the center tree (the one with the
    entrance), face the wall, move a little to the right and then try
    to climb the wall (move forward at wall).  You might have to play
    around a little to find the exact spot but once you do he'll climb
    up to another screen with the entrance for shop 14.  The only way
    I knew where it was is from a map I have which shows where everything
    in the game is.  Good luck....I'm on level 4 myself but haven't
    played for a few days.
    
    
    Bob

    Does anyone know where the fifth container heart is in Quest 2? I'll
    put the four I found behind a form feed.
    
    
    Thanks,
    Barbara
    
    
    
    
    
    
    
    
    
    	1 when you blow the whistle in a sandy area
    	1 from the using the raft
    	1 from using the ladder
    	1 from blowing the whistle at a pond

    Hints for 5.371 below the formfeeds:
    
    Can't find the fifth heart?  This is a very grave situation!
    
    And I'm not just whistling Dixie, either!
    
    - Chris

    In answer to .372 who answered .371
    
    Thanks for your help but...
    
    spoiler
    
    
    I tried blowing the whistle in all the grave yards but only found
    the lab. If I push on one of the graves I find something (unfortunaly
    I can't remember what I found there. It's empty now. Maybe I did find
    a heart there but I'm still one short!!
    
    
    Barbara
    
    
    

    Ah!  Rereading .371 gives me a clue as to where I went wrong:
    
    I don't know about any heart that you get from using the whistle at a
    pond.  If you've got an empty room in the graveyard, you've already
    picked up that heart.  
    
    The whistle is still important - you just haven't used it in the right
    spot.  Try climbing a bit before blowing it.
    
    There's a lynel or two in the way.
    
    You'll find it near Spectacle Rock.
    
    - Chris

    
    While I realize the answer to my question is probably contained
    somewhere in this note, I simply don't have time to go thru all
    370something replies. So please don't chastize me. I'm almost
    done with quest #2, but I'm having trouble finding the entrance
    to labyrinth 9. A spoiler would be most appreciated. Thanx in
    advance.
    
                                      Bruce (Garet Jax)

    Spoiler response for .375
    
    Look in the corners.
    
    Take bombs.
    
    - Chris (Capt C)

    An even more spoiled spoiler than the previous note about Q2 lab 9 but
    first a question.
    
    I lab 9 I tend to just go in circles over and over again. I know I'm 
    missing some huge and probably obvious room. In fact, I get to one 
    room push a block to get a passage but cannot get to the passage.
    And, if I did get to the passage I would not be able to get to the
    block that I need to push. Any help with this lab??
    
    spoiler for location of lab 9 Quest 2 follows
    
    
    
    
    Go in the direction of the arrow to the very farthest spot. You 
    cannot just 'follow' the arrow to reach it because the path is
    not continous. 
    
    Additional info
    
    
     
    Bomb to the right of the stairs at this extreme left hand room on 
    the same level as the arrow.
    
    
    
    thanks for everything
    Barbara
    

    re: .-1
    
>    In lab 9 I tend to just go in circles over and over again. I know I'm 
>    missing some huge and probably obvious room. In fact, I get to one 
>    room push a block to get a passage but cannot get to the passage.
>    And, if I did get to the passage I would not be able to get to the
>    block that I need to push. Any help with this lab??
    
    Yep - I learned to hate that labyrinth.  If you miss a secret door or
    wall that you should have bombed your way through, it can be quite a
    hike to get back to where you just came from.  ^#&#&*&% one way doors!
    
    About that room with the stairs you can't reach: Basically, a frontal
    assault won't work - you need to find the other entrance to that
    stairway.  
    
    Also, while I don't have my map handy, here's a hint that may help you. 
    Check out the north facing walls of rooms around the left eye...
    
    - Chris

    
    
    -.1 Thanks for the help! I got in and found Ganon. He turned brown 
    but then I died. I have never found the silver arrow. Do you think
    its necessary? I never used it to defeat him the first time through.
    
    Barbara
    

    re: .-1
    
    
    I don't know if you need it or not, since I've always had it when I
    faced Ganon.  
    
    - Chris

      Need help on finding the recorder I have been told it is in
    level 2 under one of the bricks. does anyone know what room its
    in I have pushed every rock and havnt found it yet.

    
    Could someone please tell me where the 5 container hearts are in
    the overworld, level 1. I'm about to enter lab.5 but would like
    to have the magical sword.I cannot pick it up because I only have
    11 container hearts, I missed one somewhere in the overworld.
    
    I will take major spoiler.
    
                                                  thanks
                                                    bob  
    
    
    

    
    Spoiler for Q1 container hearts
    
    
    
      You are probably missing the one found near water. Go around the 
    perimeter of all the water areas where zola lives. In some areas
    there are no other enemies except zola. In one of these places is
    the container heart. I forget whether you need to bomb or burn, but
    I KNOW that one of the earlier replies explains it.
    
    Barbara
    

    
    Well.................
    
    As I stated in .379 I got almost killed Gannon in Q2, he turned brown
    and then I died. Then yesterday as I turned on the game, my hand
    slipped and I hit the on button TWICE!!! Of course this completely 
    erased my whole character!!!@!!! So what else was there to do but start
    over! It took me about an hour and a half to finish through level 5
    (only 15 lives compared to about 90 the first time through) Now I just
    have to make it through nine and then on to Q2 AGAIN. 
    
    I can't beleive this happened to me, I thought these things only
    happened to other people. Be careful!
    
    Barbara
    
    

    Re .384:
    
    It is not necessary to repeat the first quest to get to the second.  If
    you enter your name as "ZELDA", you are automatically started on the
    second quest.
    
    
    				-- edp 

        Well I bombed and burned all weekend and I still can't find the
    fifth heart. I picked up one heart in a cave, one on a raft in the
    water, one under a tree near the water where zola lives, and I can't
    remember where I picked up the other one. 
        
        I have to give it a rest for a while, before they come and take
    me away.
    

        

    
    
    re. -1
    
    spoiler
    
    
    
    
    
    
    
    
    
    
    
    
    
    
    
    
    
    
    
    
    
    
    
    
    
    
    
    
    
    
    
    
    
    
    
    
    
    There are 2 in caves which you bomb to see, 1 on the forth screen from 
    the start of the game and another one up in the northeast corner
    sort of(Its where there are 2 large(very) rocks in the screen, you
    must bomb the bottom of the eastmost rock.  Those jumping crabs
    are there.

    
    Ok, enough searching.. Before I start taking hostages to deal with
    my aggresion could someone please give me a CLUE as to where 
    Labyrinth 2 is?... I've searched the overworld over and I can't
    find it anywhere. I've found Lab 1, Lab 3, Lab 8, Lab 5 but no 2.
    Is it necessary to move to Labs in chronological order or does this
    not have any affect whatsoever. I'd appreciate your clue..
    
    marc

    If you still cannot find lab 2 in Q2 read reply .354
    
    Barbara
    

       I found the fifth heart in the overworld today,I now have 12 heart
    containers and the magical sword. Tonight I'll tackle the fifth
    lab.
                               
                                  " thanks for all your help "
                                              BOB
    
    
    

    
    	Hi, I've been playing Zelda with my son since christmass
    we are thru level 3 and trying to get to four. But I cannot
    find the raft anywhere or the ladder!! 
    
    	I didn't see any answers to this in the note so could someone
    spoil me? and tell me where to find them?
    
    			Thanks  Paul

    re. 392
    
    Assuming you are playing the first quest...
    
    The raft and the ladder are in the first 4 or 5 labyrinths.  I know
    that after I completed the first four, I got all the overworld hearts
    and the magic sword, so as to complete level five.  To do that,
    you needed the raft and the ladder.  I believe that the raft is
    in three and the ladder is in four.  
    
    All treasures are typically underground in the labyrinth.  Read
    these notes, they answer everything you will need to finish the
    game easily.  I know it takes time, but it also will take less time
    to finish the game and a lot less frustration!  
    
    Battling Quest Two...

    I have a question regarding where level 7 in the second phase or quest
    of Legend of Zelda is.  I'm running at home from a 1200 baud modem,
    and 300+ notes is intimidating.  I understand that I should burn a bush
    - but what color bush and about where is it located??  Help please!!!
    Also, where the HECK is the entrance to level 9 - I have discovered
    the entrance to level 8 but no luck in finding 9.  If this had been
    answered somewhere else, a pointer as to where would be appreciated.

    Debbie

    Could anybody teel me how to get into the left eye of the
    lab 9 skull phase 1. I assume that is where Gannon resides.
    I have the arrow and ring but can't seem to get in to
    the room.
    
    Any help would be appriciated not matter how big the spoiler.
    
    Cheers,
    
    Richard.

    Re .395:
    
    About the bush to burn to find level 7:  Is there a particular bush
    that stands out anywhere?  One that is in your way, perhaps?
    
    
    				-- edp

    Might that bush be green??  It was a level entrance in phase 1 but now
    I have tried burning it with the blue candle and it won't burn.  It's
    in the lower right hand side of the map - is this the one??   What
    would I need to burn said bush??  And what about level 9 - I have a
    hint to "follow the arrow" and I will need a bomb to find said
    entrance.is this correct?

    Thanks for your help.
    Debbie
    

    Re .398:
    
    Oh no, that's my mistake.  I was answering for the first quest.  I'll
    have to check my map at home to tell you about seven.  Actually, let me
    ask a question:
    
    Did you find a labyrinth across a river?  Either seven or eight is on
    the opposite side of a river.  You need the ladder to drop a bomb in
    the right place.
    
    For nine, you do need a bomb.  It's somewhere in the top, left area of
    the Overworld.  There's a room which is almost solid rock except for a
    path that goes right and down.  Bomb in there.
                                      
    
    				-- edp

    OK, here I am in Level 9 on Quest 2.  I have been to see Gannon
    on one occasion, and he beat the living h**l out of me.  The reason,
    I believe is because I don't have the silver arrow.  I have been
    in the room where I know the arrow is many times, but when I can
    push the stone, I can't get to the staircase.  When I am on the
    side of the staircase, I can't push the stone.  I have bombed, blown
    my whistle, and all but put my hand through the screen to grab little
    Link by his throat.
    
    I am obviously in need of assistance, and if anyone is willing to
    give me a clue on how to get the bl**dy arrow, I would be forever
    in your debt.
    
    Andy

    .396
    
    Richard,
    
    Explicit instructions on how to beat lab 9 Q1 are given in .220,
    .221 and .227. I have extracted these and will mail them to you.
    
    Barbara
    

    RE- .400
    
      Andy,
            I can sympathize with you as I had the same problem myself.
     The room that you are assuming the arrow is in, is incorrect. If
     you want a semi-detailed description of where you can get it, read
     on.
    
    
    
    
    
    
    
    
    
    
    
    
    
    
    
      The arrow room is located in the right eye (players perspective)
    of the skull. To enter the arrow room you must blow a hole in the
    west wall of the room directly to the east of the right eye.
    
    
    Hope this helps.                 Bruce Griffith

    My sincere thanks to everyone for the hints and clues, I finally
    finished Quest 2 last night.
    
    I also just received my 1st edition of Nintendo Power, and it has
    a 17 PAGE desription of The Adventures of Link!  Wow!  It looks
    great.
    
    Andy

    I wonder if some kind sole could really spoil things for me.
    
    I would greatly appreciate a list (like someone entered earlier for
    phase one) that itemises the entrances to labs, shops etc and their
    location in the overworld (ie C4, K3 etc).
    
    Thanks,
    
    Richard.

    I am having some difficulty in locating level 9 entrance in phase 2 -
    I don't see any room that has a path going down and to the right in
    the upper left area of the Overworld -
    anybody got any answers for me??
    Thanks,
    Debbie
    

    Re .405:
    
    Checking my map for level nine in the second quest, I find that it is
    the very top and left room.
    
    
    				-- edp

    I have finished level 4 of quest 2 and have the raft. I also have
    the magic book, blue ring, whistle, power bracelet, and 7-8 heart
    containers. However, I can't get the heart container that's out in the
    water in P5. I can get to level 5 which uses the raft, but not to
    the heart in the water. Am I missing something or is this cartrige
    broke? I had no trouble getting it in the first quest.
    
    Any suggestions?

    re. .407
    
    I have asked my son George (age six) and he said that you need the
    ladder in order to be able to get the heart in p5. The ladder is
    in level 6 of quest 2. 
    
    But,
    
        since you have the raft you can get the heart which is in p2,
    if you haven't as of yet.
    
    Enjoy,
    
    Kostas
    

    I still can't find the entrance to level 7 - I think I need to burn a
    bush - but where is this bush located??  Any help or spoilers would be
    appreciated.

    Thanks,
    Debbie
    

    
    RE .-1
    
    > Please read .399
    
    
     Sorry, but .399 tells us where 8 and 9 are located .But not
    about 7...                                                  
    
       	-carl- 
    also_still_looking_for_7_

    Re .411:
    
    Level 7 is in room:
    M6.  (The rooms are A to P from left to right and 0 to 7 from top to
    bottom.)
    
    
    				-- edp 

    Andy,

    Thanks for the tip on level 7 - I found it I found it I found it I
    found it I found it I found it I found it I found it I found it I found
    it - Now on to some exploring to find level 9 and then to finish this
    quest.  Thanks again.

    Debbie

    
  
    

Could someone please send me mail on the exact locations and methods
of obtaining the overworld heart containers in level 1. I have read
the reply's and have found many clues (and some downright spoilers)
but I am still having problems. I have completed 1,2,3,4,5 and 7 labs
and have only 10 hearts. Some possible spoiler questions follow.


Many of the replies talk about the 4th screen to the right of start.
This is where Zola is, correct? I have tried bombing everything and cannot
find an entrance. What am I doing wrong. The other is the large rock in the 
top right of the map (the one right after the desert?). I can't seem to 
find an entrance there either. Also I don't recall seeing a place where
only Zola lives but I guess I could search all over for that one. Maybe
near the river, top center?. Anyway, I could use some real spoilers. I
need that magic sword. Thanks,

					Andre

    I am still having trouble finding level 9 - I have bombed almost
    every rock in the topmost room in the left corner and nothing has
    come of this - I feel kinda dumb - incapable of finding something when
    I've been told where to look for it.  Is there something that I must
    have in order to bomb the correct place?  Also, there is a spot that
    I cannot drop a bomb.  At first I thought I was too close to the edge
    or something but it doesn't matter.   Anybody else have this problem?

    Debbie
    

    Re .415:
    
    Please describe the room you are bombing in; what does it look like?
    You don't need anything special.  You just need to bomb above the
    horizontal segment of the path.  If I recall correctly, it's not
    exactly in the middle, but it's not near the ends, either.  It's a bit
    off-center.
     
    
    				-- edp 

	Last night I found level 9, and I also found a few "Pay me for the
	door repair charge" rooms and I found another place to gamble -
	did anybody else find these?  Oh, I lso found another shop that
	says "Boy is this expensive".  Currently, I am having trouble
	completeing(sp?) level 7 - those *@&!@#$darknuts or whatever
	they're called -

	Thanks for all your kind help and understanding -

    
    
    	in the first quest, I need help in level five getting past this 
    flying spinning disc thing!!!!! also I need to get the whistle
    but there are too many Darknuts and I cant kill them all
    	I've been on this level for a week!!!!!
    
    		Paul
    
    PS. Mark, have you got it???????

    Re .418:
    
    You are not yet ready to handle the disk creature.  When you are, the
    instructions that came with the game will help.
    
    
    				-- edp 

    I NEED HELP IN LAB 5 Q1.  I CANNOT KILL THE BLUE COLORED DARKNUTS
    GUARDING THE CENTER STAIRWAY SURROUNDED BY LARGE STONES.  I'VE TRIED
    BOMBS, ARROWS, MAGIC BOOMERANG AND BAIT AND I CANNOT KILL THEM.
    NEED A SPOILER TO GET TO THE STAIRWAY.  ALSO IN LAB 5 Q1 THE THREE
    LARGE MONSTERS WITH THE HORN PACING AROUND ONE OF THE ROOMS, I CANNOT
    KILL THEM.  I'VE USED ALL OF THE ABOVE WEAPONS ON THEM.  HOW DOES
    THE BAIT WORK.  I HAVE TRIED USING THAT TOO.  THANKS FOR ANY HELP.
    CAROL
    

    re .420

    mild spoiler
    

      To kill the darknuts you must hit them from either the side or from
      behind. I would hide in the doorway just out of their reach until I
      had a good shot at one or them and then run out of the doorway to hit
      him. It was not easy and took a LOT of patience. I think that room
      took me the longest of any.

      The horned monsters (forgot their name) are killed using the bombs,
      but not by having the bombs blow up the way they normally do. If you
      want more of a spoiler, let me know.

		- bob -

    RE .420
    
    BOB
    
    I WOULD LIKE A SPOILER ON THE BOMBING THE RHINOS OR WHATEVER IN LEVEL
    5.  THANKS
    CAROL
    

    re 5.422 
    	Stand in front and drop a bomb "in" their mouth. The Dodondo
    will "puff up".  You can then shove another down their throught
    or jab them with your sword.  For the sword to work I think you
    need the Magic Sword.
    
    My family finished off Zelda in about 4 weeks (both levels) and
    as .421 (I think) said, you need to be patient.  Killing the Darknuts
    and the "crabs" require a lot of time (unless you like to die alot).
    
    Hang in there....
    Steve

    RE:-1
    We are now trying to enter Lab 4 but are having problems uncovering
    the entrance. We are trying to obtain the power bracelet but are
    having trouble getting to the area where it is. Without the ladder,
    the only way to it is thru the graveyard, but we keep getting stuck
    in the lost woods. My question is, how do you get to either lab
    6 or the area where the power bracelet it without the ladder?
    
    mike

    re. 5.425
    
    The only way, I know when you do not have the ladder is to go
    east from the graveyard, but..
    
    Spoiler follows,
    
    You have to get through the Lost Woods section first, and
    another spoiler..
    To do that, you go n,w,s,w in that order, once you enter it.  It's
    the same method it has always been.
    
    Good luck!

    
     Hello,

          I have made my own maps on the Phase (Quest) 2 of Zelda, 
     for levels 7, 8, and 9. I will include them in here for anyone
     who may find them usefull.
    
     Enjoy,

     Kostas

     If you already finished Level 7 on the second quest please 
     read on otherwise major spoilers follows the <FF> form feed.

     Once again major spoiler follows the <FF> form feed.
     Please do not read if you have not completed level 7 on the 
     second quest.


     Quest 2 Level 7 small map:

         A B C D E F G H
       1 
       2     # # # # #          B8 is where you Start the level
       3     #       #          D2 is where the Triforce is located
       4     # # #   #           
       5     # # #   # 
       6     # # #   # 
       7             #
       8 # # # # # # # 
           

   Quest 2 Level 7 large map:

   Symbol   Meaning
   ------   -----------------------------------------------
    [  ] or
    -
    -       existing door
    U.P.    Underground Passage


       A        B        C        D        E        F        G        H
   +--------+--------+--------+--------+--------+--------+--------+--------+
   |        |        |        |        |        |        |        |        |
   |        |        |        |        |        |        |        |        |
 1 |        |        |        |        |        |        |        |        |
   |        |        |        |        |        |        |        |        |
   +--------+--------+--------+--------+--------+--------+--------+--------+
   |        |        | U.P.   |        |        |        |  U.P.  |        |
   |        |        | to     |Triforce^ CLEEOK ^   d    -  to    |        |
 2 |        |        | E8     |        v        v        -  D6    |        |
   |        |        |        |        |        |        |        |        |
   +--------+--------+--------+--------+--------+--------+--[ ]---+--------+
   |        |        |        |        |        |        |  U.P   |        |
   |        |        |        |        |        |        |  to    |        |
 3 |        |        |        |        |        |        |  C6    |        |
   |        |        |        |        |        |        |        |        |
   +--------+--------+--------+--------+--------+--------+--[ ]---+--------+
   |        |        |        |        |        |        |        |        |
   |        |        |        |        |        |        |        |        |
 4 |        |        |        |        |        |        |        |        |
   |        |        |        |        |        |        |        |        |
   +--------+--------+--[ ]---+--[ ]---+--------+--------+--[ ]---+--------+
   |        |        |        |        |        |        |        |        |
   |        |        |        -        -        |        |   b    |        |
 5 |        |        |        -        -        |        |   d    |        |
   |        |        |        |        |        |        |        |        |
   +--------+--------+--[ ]---+--[ ]---+--------+--------+--< >---+--------+
   |        |        |  U.P.  |  U.P.  |        |        |        |        |
   |        |        |  to    |  to    |        |        |  b     |        |
 6 |        |        |  G3    |  G2    |        |        |  d     |        |
   |        |        |        |        |        |        |        |        |
   +--------+--------+--------+--------+--------+--------+--[ ]---+--------+
   |        |        |        |        |        |        |        |        |
   |        |        |        |        |        |        |   r&b  |        |
 7 |        |        |        |        |        |        |   b&d  |        |
   |        |        |        |        |        |        |        |        |
   +--------+--------+--------+--------+--------+--------+--[ ]---+--------+
   |        |        |        |        |  U.P.  |        |        |        |
   |        - START  -        -        -  to    -        -        |        |
 8 |        -        -        -        -  C2    -        -        |        |
   |        |        |        |        |        |        |        |        |
   +--------+--------+--------+--------+--------+--------+--------+--------+

     If you already finished Level 8  on the second quest please 
     read on otherwise major spoilers follows the <FF> form feed.


     Once again major spoiler follows the <FF> form feed.
     Please do not read if you have not completed level 8 on the 
     second quest.



     Quest 2 Level 8 small map:

         A B C D E F G H
       1 # # # # # # # #
       2 # #           #          H8 is where you Start the level
       3 # #       #   #          F3 is where the Triforce is located
       4 # #       #   #          F4 is where a heard container is located
       5 # #       #   # 
       6 # #       #   # 
       7 # # # # # #   #
       8               #
           

   Quest 2 Level 8 large map:

   Symbol   Meaning
   ------   -----------------------------------------------
    *       you have to use a bomb to make a door
    [  ] or
    -
    -       existing door
    U.P.    Underground Passage
    W       Walk through the Wall

       A        B        C        D        E        F        G        H
   +--------+--------+--------+--------+--------+--------+--------+--------+
   |  U.P.  |        | U.P.   |  3     |        |        |        |  key   |
   |  to    |        | to     ^DODONGOS-        |        ^        ^        |
 1 |  A6    |        | C5     v        -        *  DIG-  v        v        |
   |        |        |  key   |        |        |  DOGGER|        |        |
   +--< >---+--------+--------+--------+--------+--------+--------+--[ ]---+
   |  U.P.  |  U.P.  |        |        |        |        |        |        |
   |  to    -  to    |        |        |        |        |        |        |
 2 |  H7    -  H5    |        |        |        |        |        | compass|
   |        |  1Way  |        |        |        |        |        |        |
   +---W----+--------+--------+--------+--------+--------+--------+--[ ]---+
   |        |  U.P.  |        |        |        |        |        |        |
   |        ^  to    |        |        |        |Triforce|        |grumble |
 3 |        v  H6    |        |        |        |        |        |grumble |
   |        |        |        |        |        |        |        |        |
   +--[k]---+---*----+--------+--------+--------+--< >---+--------+--[ ]---+
   |  U.P.  |        |        |        |        |  h.c.  |        |  U.P.  |
   |  to    |        |        |        |        |3       |        |  to    |
 4 |  MAGIC |  MAP   |        |        |        |dodongos|        |  B7    |
   |  WAND  |        |        |        |        |        |        |        |
   +--------+--------+--------+--------+--------+--[ ]---+--------+--[ ]---+
   |  U.P.  |        |  U.P.  |        |        |  U.P.  |        |  U.P.  |
   |  to    -        -  to    |        |        |  to    |        |  from  |
 5 |  MAGIC -        -  C1    |        |        |  C7    |        |  B2    |
   |  KEY   |        |        |        |        |        |        |        |
   +--------+--< >---+--------+--------+--------+--------+--------+--[ ]---+
   |  U.P.  |        |        |        |        |        |        |  U.P.  |
   |  to    ^        |        |        |        |        |        |  to    |
 6 |  A1    v        |        |        |        |        |        |  B3    |
   |        |        |        |        |        |        |        |        |
   +---W----+---W----+--------+--------+--------+--------+--------+--[ ]---+
   |        |  U.P.  |  U.P.  |        |        |        |        |  U.P.  |
   |        -  to    -  to    |        |        |        |        |  to    |
 7 |        -  H4    -  F5    |        |        |        |        |  A2    |
   |        |        |        |        |        |        |        |        |
   +--------+--------+--------+--------+--------+--------+--------+--[ ]---+
   |        |        |        |        |        |        |        |        |
   |        |        |        |        |        |        |        | START  |
 8 |        |        |        |        |        |        |        |        |
   |        |        |        |        |        |        |        |        |
   +--------+--------+--------+--------+--------+--------+--------+--[ ]---+

     Quest 2 Level 9. Help, Major spoilers, maps etc ...

     Enjoy,
    
     Kostas

     If you already finished Level 9 on the second quest please 
     read on otherwise major spoilers follows the <FF> form feed.


     Once again major spoiler follows the <FF> form feed.
     Please do not read if you have not completed level 9 on the 
     second quest.



     Quest 2 Level 9 small map:

         A B C D E F G H
       1 # #         # #
       2 # # # # # # # #        E8 is where you Start the level
       3     # # # #            H1 is where Zelda is located
       4   # # # # # #          A1 is where the Red Ring is 
       5 # #   # #   # #        B1, G2, G5, E5 locations of Patra
       6 # # # # # # # #        F5 is where the Silver Arrow is
       7   # # # # # #
       8       # #
           


   Quest 2 Level 9 large map:

   Symbol   Meaning
   ------   -----------------------------------------------
    *       you have to use a bomb to make a door
    [  ] or
    -
    -       existing door
    U.P.    Underground Passage
    W       Walk through the Wall


       A        B        C        D        E        F        G        H
   +--------+--------+--------+--------+--------+--------+--------+--------+
   | U.P.   |        |        |        |        |        |        |        |
   | to the | PATRA  |        |        |        |        |        | ZELDA  |
 1 | RED    W U.P. to|        |        |        |        |        |        |
   | RING   | F2     |        |        |        |        |        |        |
   +--------+--[ ]----+--------+--------+--------+--------+--------+--< >---+
   |        |        |        | GO TO  |        | U.P.   |        |        |
   |        ^        -        | THE    |        - to     * PATRA  ^ GANNON |
 2 |        v        -        W NEXT   |        - B1     |        v        |
   |        |        |        | ROOM   |        |        |        |        |
   +--------+--------+--------+--[ ]---+--[ ]---+--[ ]---+--------+--------+
   |        |        |        |        |        |        |        |        |
   |        |        |        -        ^        -        |        |        |
 3 |        |        |        -        v        -        |        |        |
   |        |        |        |        |        |        |        |        |
   +--------+--------+-- * ---+--< >---+--[ ]---+--[ ]---+--------+--------+
   |        |        |        |        |        | U.P.   |        |        |
   |        |        -        ^        -        - TO     -        |        |
 4 |        |        -        v        -        - D8     -        |        |
   |        |        |        |        |        |        |        |        |
   +--------+--[ ]---+-- * ---+--[k]---+-- * ---+--------+--[ ]---+--------+
   |        |        |        |        |        | U.P.   | PATRA  |        |
   |        |        ^        ^        - PATRA  | TO     W        |        |
 5 |        *        v compassv        -        | SILVER | MAP    |        |
   |        |        |        |        |        | ARROW  |        |        |
   +---[ ]--+--[k]---+--------+--[ ]---+--[ ]---+--------+-- * ---+--------+
   |        |        |        |        |        |        |        |        |
   |        -        |        |        |        |        |        ^        |
 6 |        -        |        |        |        W        W        v        |
   |        |        |        |        |        |        |   |    |        |
   +--------+--[k]---+--[ ]---+--< >---+---[ ]--+--------+--[|]--+--------+
   |        |        |        |        |        |        |   V    |        |
   |        |        -        ^        -        -        -        |        |
 7 |        |        -        v        -        -        -        |        |
   |        |        |        |        |        |        |        |        |
   +--------+--------+--------+--------+--[ ]---+--------+--------+--------+
   |        |        |        | U.P.   |        |        |        |        |
   |        |        |        | TO     -        |        |        |        |
 8 |        |        |        | F4     - START  |        |        |        |
   |        |        |        |        |        |        |        |        |
   +--------+--------+--------+--------+--[ ]---+--------+--------+--------+

    Could someone tell me where the white sword is in quest 2.
    
    						Andre
    

         Same place it was in in the first quest. That is if it is
    the one that you need 5 hearts to get.
     
    kendall

    
    This is a major spoiler on the overworld, for those who are 
    beyond reasoning.  Applies only to the Second Quest..
    
    Warning!  Do not continue unless you want serious spoiler...
    
    After a very prolonged time of burning and bombing with only the
    blue candle and the occasionally purchase/acquired bomb... plus
    blowing my lungs out....
    
    I've located all the overworld hearts..  Locations follow:
    
    Two are the same as the first quest:  You'll find them at P2, P5.
    One is in the sand and requires music, at K3.  Another is in the
    heights, with equal musical affinity, at G0.  The last, is of grave
    nature, (here are forget exactly) in A2 or A3 (May also like the
    music, but not sure of my memory; only of general area.)
    
    Of course, in other to get these heart cases, you will still need
    certain tools, available of course in the labs!
    
    Good luck!

                    -{ OVERWORLD QUESTION }-
                     
    I WOULD LIKE TO KNOW WHAT THE SET OF RAFTS IN P4? ARE.  I KNOW THAT
    THE OTHER SET BELOW THEM OFFER A HEART CONTAINER.  DO YOU HAVE TO
    HAVE A SPECIAL ITEM BESIDES THE LADDER TO DO OR GET ANYTHING?  I
    AM IN LAB #6 AND HAVE ALL THE TREASURES, WEAPONS  AND 13 HEART
    CONTAINERS. 
    CAROL
    

    
    I AM IN LEVEL 9 QUEST-1 THROUGH JUST ABOUT ALL THE ROOMS, BUT I HAVE NOT
    FOUND THE SILVER ARROW YET.  I GET AS FAR AS THE ROOM WHERE THE
    BLUE BALLS ARE FLYING AT YOU AND WHEN I ENTER THERE IS A GREEN MONSTER
    TYPE THERE, IS THAT GANNON???  PLEASE GIVE A SPOILER ON THE SILVER
    ARROW.  
    
    ALSO I READ IN A PREVIOUS NOTE THAT SOMEONE RECORDED THE CAPTURE
    OF ZELDA ON THEIR VCR.  HOW WOULD YOU GO ABOUT SETTING THE VCR TO
    RECORD.  THANKS FOR ANY HELP!!!
    
    C.

    <Re: .435>

    To the best that I can recall, the silver arrow is in level 9 along
    with the red ring.  Gannon disappears and reappers.  I think he does
    this when you wound him.  I'm playing ZELDA II, so it's been a month or
    so since I defeated Gannon in ZELDA I.  You will need the silver arrow
    to do Gannon in.  Good luck...........
    
    

         Try the upper most room on the left hand side of of the maze.
    KENDALL

    Along those lines...  I'm in lab. 9 on quest one, and ive entered
    some rooms where the shutters close behind me.  In all of my previous
    experiences, ive been able to re-open then either by killing all
    the nasties or pushing a rock.     My question is..
       Is there ALWAYS a way to open a closed shutter??
    
                               Dave 'hates dem pancake-types' Brown

    Let's remember the formfeeds on the spoilers, folks!
    
    re: Is there ALWAYS a way to open a closed shutter
    
    No.  But there's always a way to walk around - it's just that the long
    road home tends to have nasties in the way...
    
    - Chris

    I want to thank all of you for your help.  I finally made it!!!
    I killed Ganon and saved Zelda (Q-1).  I am now in Q-2 and am finding
    all kinds of new and different things.  I am in Lab 2 and cannot
    get by the HANDS in one of the last rooms.  I have tried pushing
    blocks to reveal a staircase, but the HANDS keep getting me.  Any
    suggestions or spoilers would be appreciated. 
    
    C.
    

    Re: .440 by PARITY::CARON
    
    Are you sure about labyrinth 2 of quest 2?  According to my maps,
    the hands (Wall Monsters) are only in labyrinths 1, 3 and 8 of quest
    2.  How to deal with the hands (hidden behind formfeed):
    
    In each room where there are helping hands, there are a fixed number
    of them.  Just stab them and eventually you will have gotten them
    all.  Once they are all gone, you can push the blocks in the room
    at your leisure.
    
    	Stapes

    Will some kind and gentle person please tell me in which room can
    the map for labyrinth 9 be found ?
    
    Spirit

    re. .-1
    
    Hello,
    
         if it is Quest 2 level 9 you want then take a look at the 
    reply in 5.430.
    
    If it is just the map you want then spoiler follows the <FF>
    
    
    
    The map is in G5, also PATRA in in this room.
    
    Enjoy,
    
    Kostas
    
    

    I'm in lab 6 quest 1 and have forgotten to write down the loaction
    of the map.  Can someone please tell me where the map was located???
    
    Thanks,
    Fab

    re 443
    
    Thanks, I got it!
    
    Spirit

    I am in quest 2 lab 7 and am having trouble with a capital T getting
    past those *@%##*&@? blue devils!!  I get my red potion before entering
    get my hearts filled up before entering but by the time I get to THEM
    I have used my potion once(in order to be able to throw the sword)And
    this room has shutters, I believe for doors so I can't hide in the
    doorway and jump out and shoot at 'em.  Any suggestions??  Any help
    by some of you Linksters????  I'd sure appreciate it.  I have already
    finished ZELDA II and saved Zelda and defeated Links shadow, now I need
    to finish ZELDA I.

	*Debbie*
	
    

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Note 249.0                  John jr.got the Tri-force                 No replies
BOARDS::MONDALTO                                     12 lines   7-APR-1989 13:33
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    Could someone please let me know what happens when you get
    the whole Tri-Force on the LEGEND OF ZELDA.My son is 6 years
    old and he made it all the way to the end (I think) if it is 
    the end.This is one game that I never attempted to play so I
    don't really no too much about it. Are there other levels that
    he has to play,and are they harder to get through.
    
                              Thanks John 
    

    Spoilers on the last two:
    
    
    re 5.446
    
    Nothing to tell you except, "Practice".  There are no real shortcuts
    for the room you are talking about - just sneak up on the suckers from
    the side, get a hit, and then run away and try again.
    
    re 5.447
    
    Yes, there is one more level to solve.  You may have to find it - if
    you don't already know where it is, I'd suggest you re-examine
    Spectacle Rock.

< Note 5.404 by FORTY2::HUFF "Oh! Don't go down that one!" >

		<you don't blow a hole just walk thru the wall...>
		Re: .402 -

		    You don't blow a hole in this wall, you just walk
		    through the wall.  I just completed the second quest
		    and I had a hard time finding the silver arrow then
		    I read the notes file and was ready to blow a hole
		    in the wall, when I just suddenly passed thru the
		    wall!!

		    This game was good and well worth the
		    money.................

		    Does anybody know if there are plans for a Zelda 3?

		    *Debbie*

    I have been looking for level 4 in the second run of ZELDA, plus my
    other family members had Links at various other stages.
    
    Lo and behold, I fired it up one night and I got a blank blue screen.
    
    Nothing!
    No music, no ZELDA logo, nothing.
    
    Does any body know what happened? How can I get Zelda back? (I've had
    it about two months now.)
    
    Thanks
    Randy

    
    Hi,
    
    I have at times gotten a flashing blue screen with no music or picture. 
    I either turn it off (while holding the reset button of course) or 
    just press the reset button, and then everything is normal. Did you try
    these? If not I would call Nintendo about returning the cartridge.
    
    Barbara
    

	I'd like a two questions answered, WITHOUT being downright spoilers.
	I have the first 400 replies of this note extracted to a file and 
	would have searched for "GANON" but didn't want answers on how to
	defeat Him.  I only want "minor hints".

   --------------
	First, A COMPLAINT: I found it very annoying in level 9 of the first 
	quest to be in the upper left hand corner room, stuck there with 
	15 lives, 16 bombs, Blue medicine, but 0 keys.  Without keys, there 
	is no way through that I could find.  I blasted every wall in 4 places.
	I used the wand, the arrow against the lock, etc.  And the worst
	part is that the "tumbleweeds" won't kill you, so you have to figure
	out a way to kill yourself.  (Make fire and run into it).  I think 
	you should have to go all the way out (backtrack) if you don't have 
	a key, but should never get stuck in a room.
   --------------
   Questions for which I'd like hints without answers:

	1) I've met Ganon in the room before the blinking red dot, but I
	haven't been in all the rooms yet. (See complaint, above).  I've got
	the Red Ring and Silver Arrow.  Is there any reason I should visit
	the last 5 or so rooms?  (If yes, don't tell me what I'll find there.
	They are in the upper NW corner).

	2) I've noticed Ganon pop up a bunch of times, is it something I did
	that made him pop up?  My first impression is that it's timed to me
	NOT getting hit, or perhaps to the number of fireballs he throws at 
	me.  I also tried using food, but he's too wise for that trick!

	Thanks in advance,
	-- Jim, whose wife just bought him Zelda II for father's day!

        1. Yes. (Your complaint  should not be possible at this stage -
        you  should  have  a  specific  item  which  prevents  it  from
        happening, which may or  may  not  be  found  in  the remaining
        rooms.)
        
        2. No.
        
        Good luck!
        
        Andy

    Jim,
    
    	When your trapped, instead of trying to kill yourself, wouldn't
    be better to save the game by pressing the A button on the second
    controller at the same time as the up-arrow of the seconf controller.
    It saves everything and you can get on your way again.
    
    DL

    re: .455, D LaLonde

	I've never done that, partly because the first time I attempted
	something like that my game was blown away and I had to start 
	over.  So I avoid doing that.  Perhaps after I finish this quest 
	I'll start with a new character and try this out again.  I don't
	want anything to mess me up after I've gone this far!

	Question:  If I did this, would it put me back at the beginning
	of the level, the beginning of the game, or in the same spot
	upon starting up again.  I wouldn't want to be in the same spot...

	By 2nd controller, do you mean the controller that is used for
	the 2nd player in 2 player games?  If so, I'm SOL because the
	2nd controller is broken.  Could I unplug the first and plug it
	into the second and then do this???  

    re: .454, ??? (sorry, can't remember back 2 minutes ago!)

	Thanks.  I figured out that I was missing that object, but not 
	until after I gathered 200 coins 3 times and bought myself 5 keys.
	Overkill, but I wanted to be sure!!!

    I'll be on my way again, thanks for the hints...

    -- Jim

Re: .456 by ATSE::MORGAN

You can complete both quests of "The Legend of Zelda" without ever buying
any keys.  If you look at page 22 of the instructions, you will see mention
of a magic key, which, by your note, you seem to have not found.

	Stapes

	Well, I finished last night.  It took me only 1/2 hour to go
	from start of overworld to defeating Gannon.  I ended up having
	5 keys, which it took about 1/2 hour to buy ... so yes, I wasted
	my time there.... and yes, I never made it to some of the rooms
	in level 9.

	I went back to level 8 before going into level 9 to see if I missed
	any rooms there, but it appeared I didn't.  So the location of the
	magic key is still a mystery to me.  I'll go through the notes to
	find where I should have looked.

	Thanks for the hints!  Nintendo is great, and this notes file is
	a valuable warehouse of information.

	-- Jim, moving on to Zelda II!

    YES ITS THE NUMBER 2 CONTROLLER.
    
    	I'VE DONE THIS MANY TIMES. WHEN I'M PLAYING BEFORE DINER AND
    THE WIFE CALLS "DINNERS READY!!", THEN I SAVE THE GAME BY USING
    THE SECOND CONTROLLER. IT BRINGS YOU BACK TO THE START OF THE GAME
    WITH EVERYTHING INTACT. EI: JUST LIKE IF YOU HAVE DIED AND SAVED
    THE GAME ABOVE GROUND; EXCEPT I DON'T THINK IT INCREMENTS THE LIFE
    COUNTER.
    
    DL
    

     
    				JUST CAN'T FIND IT
    
       I need help finding the ladder in phase 2. 
    
    	any spoilers would be a great help.
    
        either post or send to COMET::FRENCHMAN
    
    						THANKS
    

    I guess by now this game is old news to everyony but not to me.
    So i need help. In the previous replies it said in phase 2 there
    is a heart container at spectacle rock, i've bombed everywhere blown
    whistles everything but can't find it, spoilers welcoms
    
    
    
                 aggrivated in level4  DAVE

    re:5.460
    This is a hint but some people might call it a spoiler
        <possible spoiler>
    
    
    the ladder is in level six. If you need more info. my mom's mail
    account is  CRONIC:HOOVER.

    Hi  
        I need help. I am in lab.4 phase 2. I got the book and can't find
    the raft. Already spent three days on it. Please HELP!!!!!
    
                                                    KIM
    
    
     
    
    
    
    
                           

    this is me again. still need help, phase 2. can't find the  &*^%^%%
    letter. can some kind soul help me!  
    
                                               Kim

    Kim,
    	You need to be strong and push your weight around, after traveling
    far, as if you were going to Seattle from Miami. Don't forget that
    every game has its highs and lows.
    					Blues
    

    HI,
    
       HAVING A HE__ OF A TIME FINDING THE LETTER. I AM READY TO THROW THIS 
    GAME AWAY. PHASE 2 HAS GOT THE BEST OF ME. 
    
                                              KIM

    Kim,
    	OK, a bigger hint:
    
    	Look in the northwesternmost area, where "horses" throw swords
    between the rocks and trees. You need to really look high and low,
    and you must be very strong.
    					Blues
    
    (Next thing you know, someone will want an outright spoiler, and
    I can never master how to "form feed")

    I have scaned this very large note but do not see what I need. My
    husband is on Quest 2. According to one of the previous notes, he
    should have found the flute. 
    
    PLEASE, SOMEONE TELL ME WHERE THE FLUTE IS SO HE WILL COME TO BED
    AT NIGHT INSTEAD OF PLAYING UNTIL HE DROPS. 
    
    Also, what is this about walking thru walls, WITHOUT  bombing? Where
    do you do this and HOW? My husband has been bouncing off the walls
    for 4 days now. 
    
    Last night he finally killed the guy at Level 2 at 1:30am! Still
    no flute.
    
    All help and spoilers wellcomed.
    
    Amy

Tell him to go to level 2 and GO TO BED.
    
    
              DAVE

    at one part in level 2,second quest,there is a walk-way that runs
    into a wall.
    if you walk in the middle of the walk-way,into the wall,then you
    will go through a wall.
    then you will see a stairway,and when you go down the stairway you
    can get the flute.
    
    signed,
    P.Baylies

          <<< MOMAX1::SYS$SYSDEVICE:[NOTES$LIBRARY]NINTENDO.NOTE;1 >>>
                       -< Nintendo Entertainment System >-
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Note 311.0                   Phase 2 help needed !!!                     1 reply
WFOV11::VIENS                                         8 lines  16-AUG-1989 06:58
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    	In phase 2 when the whirlwind picks you up it takes you to a
    place where there are 4 trees and a cave, the cave is NOT a lab;
    WHERE IS THE LAB !!! and how do I get in ???
    
    	A previous note mentioned "LOOK WEST OF THE WATERFALL"  HELP,
    details on where, how, what do I need to do it??
    
    Chuck

       <In phase 2 when the whirlwind picks you up it takes you to a
    place where there are 4 trees and a cave, the cave is NOT a lab;
    WHERE IS THE LAB !!! and how do I get in ???>?
    
    I think this is the one that bugged many other LINK players - all I can
    figure out is that in phase 1 there WAS a lab here and for some reason
    known only to Nintendo, blowing the whistle brings you here.

    
       <A previous note mentioned "LOOK WEST OF THE WATERFALL"  HELP,
    details on where, how, what do I need to do it??>

	I believe this clue has to do with finding the location of one of
	labs.  It's been a while since I've played this game and I've been
	playing others so I'm not sure exactly...

    
	Hope this helps a bit...

'	*D*

    
    For some reason the previous note did not show up.
    I am a beginner in Zelda and I have problem finding lab 5 in level
    1.  Would someone give me the explicit direction, thanks.
    (I know it will be less fun fior me ==>  I am willing to trade some
    fun with headaches.
    
    
    Jeffrey

          <<< MOMAX1::SYS$SYSDEVICE:[NOTES$LIBRARY]NINTENDO.NOTE;1 >>>
                       -< Nintendo Entertainment System >-
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ARGUS::RICHARD                                       23 lines  30-AUG-1989 16:24
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The directions to level #5 of 1st phase.



Have you been to the N.E. corner of the over-world?



In the N.E. area, have you been at a spot where going N, S, or E is the same,
but going W, you see a water fall?



If so, try going N 4 times.



This place has rocks aligned in an arrow pattern like in some other places,
but it's the only one where you can go in any of 4 directions.  Did you
get a map or scroll from the old lady so you can buy medicine?  Well, just
go E of the water fall.

Well, I just finished the second quest this weekend.
Now all I have to do is convince my wife that she shouldn't divorce me.
I probably have spent more time with Link than her in the last month.

I hope Zelda II is as good as this was/is.....

- George

    
    
    	I need help finding the store with the blue ring in level 2.
    
    	Any spoilers would be apreciated.
    
    							thanks
    
    
    							G.F.
    

    re: -1
    
    You may have found a lot of rupies there in the first quest.
    
    /jeff
    

    Over the river and...
    

Try getting to the one spot that seems impossible to get to.
I'll bet you some gold coins that you cant find it!

- george

    
    
    
    	Thank you for the wonderful clues,I took them and played most
        of the weekend and still did not find the store with the blue 
        ring. I looked all over but obviously not the right spot.
        please leave a spoiler, it's driving me and my wife crazy.
    
    
    
    							thanks
    
    							G.F.
    

    RE-1
         WALK THRU THE WALL
    KENDALL

    re: 5.483
    
    Your on the right track, to locating the right spot you'll know
    you are at the right spot, when you can't see the entrance that
    is right in front of you.  I hope I have given you the "right"
    clues to put you over the top in finding the store.
    
    Kevin.

    To get the 3rd sword, you must have at least 12 heart containers,
    otherwise you can't pick it up. HINT: The raft is in level 3 down a
    secret stairway. 
    If you need more help, I am in the 9th level. So I can tell you
    everything you need to know about the first quest
    
    Hope this helps.
    
    Lionel Levine

    You know in the first level where there is a tree where you can
    "gamble"? Well, in that room, somewhere along the top wall you can walk
    right through it and come to a secret shop where the blue ring is sold.
    
    Hope this helps.
    
    Lionel Levine
    

    Here are exact directions to level 5.
    From start:
    Go north
    Go east
    Go north 4 times
    Go east 3 times
    Go north 4 times
        
    NOTE: At the last "Go north 4 times", It will repeat the same room
          until the fourth north. Then it will change to level 5. Watch out
          though, level five is imposable to beat without the whistle. 

    If you bomb Specticle Rock in phase ONE there is a heart container. I
    have tried bombing it in phase two, but you're right nothing happens.
    I think you got mixed up about the two phases.
    
    Lionel Levine
     

    The other two rafts of the overworld are not for anything in
    perticular, but they are useful for killing the Zolas that are in the
    water over there.
    
    Lionel Levine 

    Lionel,
    
    We really appreciate your help, but please hide hints and solutions
    (we call them spoilers) following a formfeed (control-L) so that people
    can read them only on purpose and not by accident.  If a control-L
    doesn't work, try a control-V control-L.
    
    Kent
    

    This is for a friend (I've never played zelda):
    
    He needs to find #6 in level 2.  If that makes any sense to anyone he
    would appreciate the help.

Tell him its buried somewhere.................

- George

    Any hints on where level 3 entrance is in the 2nd game?
    
    /Dwayne
    

    Hint behind spoiler:
    
    Go to where the 2nd castle was in the first quest.
    You'll ned the flute.
    

    Please help!  I'm right at the end of the 1st game but can't finish it 
    because I don't have the magic key.  Where is it??????  I haven't
    played it in a few months because I've got so fed up trying to find 
    it.
    
    Kathy

Kathy;

It is somewhere in level 8, go back and visit every room in level 8 til you
find it. I can't remember exactly where it is but it is in level 8.

- George

    Hi, 
    
    I wrote this note once already but in the wrong place. Anyway;
    I'm in the 1st Quest of Zelda and stuck trying to get the "recorder"
    in labyrinth #5. My question is---HOW DO YOU KILL THOSE BLUE MEANIES
    THAT ARE GUARDING THE STAIRWAY? I assume the recorder is down the
    stairs right? I've gone in there with full hearts (eight cases),
    the white sword, bait, magic boomerang, bow and arrow, and of course
    bombs and the candle. Those #%*^# wont die, the most I can do is
    turn them red for a split second before they just bury me.
    
    Help, link is in need!
    

    
    Do you mean the blue dudes that throw spells at you?  
    If that is the case, then you have to keep on pounding away
    at them.  Also you seem to be missing some stuff. 
    
    				-Andy
    
    			<spoiler on missing stuff>
    
    	You are down about 4 heart cases and you also need 
    	the blue ring of damage reduction.   There is more
    	to the overworld that meets the eye. . . .  
      

    	I have picked up this game for my daughter this Christmas and
    she's been very frustrated and I haven't been of much help. I have
    scanned the majority of these replies to no avail. I have tried
    to get a copy of the map for the Quest 1 overworld re: 5.155 but
    am not able to access it. Unfortunatley we didn't get the envolope
    that was supposed to accompany the game. Help before my daughter
    decides to get really destructive, she's only 6 but a real terror
    when things like this happen. I have only the booklet and in no
    way has it been of any help from what I've read in it. 
    
    Send me mail at NERSW5::LEMIRE anytime, it'll be greatly appreciated.
    
    Thanks from a "desparate Daddy"

    I believe the blue guys that were referred to are the blue knights (the
    blue Wizzrobe is in Dungeon 6 and he is a real bear also).  A hint
    follows the form feed:
    
    
    Because these guys carry a shield, they cannot be defeated with a
    frontal attack.  You have to hit them from behind with your sword. 
    You'll have to keep moving and swinging.  The blue ring suggested in a
    previous reply is a good idea.  Also, make sure you buy medicine from
    the old lady so you can renew your life when your energy gets low
    during the fight.

Hi, I have tried to write to the file but kept coming up with an error 
message so I've created a file and am going to send it to you for posting 
in ZELDA note 5.***

I am in PHASE 2 of ZELDA - LOVE this game.... BUT, I can't seem to find the 
following and would like a downright spoiler or VAXmail message for info..

    the POWER BRACELET - bombed, played flute, fired up, moved statues all 
over the place near the graveyard....

    the LETTER - I have a feeling that I need the power bracelet for this.

    the RAFT - Is it in 3, I thought that I had everything but then it was 
kind of easy....  is there a secret staircase other then the one to the 
triforce....

Any and all hints/spoilers would be greatly appreciated.  These notes have 
been great with the hints and I've read them all at least twice some three 
times and printed out the ones I felt would be helpful.... but only used 
them when I was frustrated.... in PHASE 1 it was easy to be frustrated 
especially LEVEL 8 for the KEY.... took me forever it seems.... but once I 
found it.... I want to thank I believe Holly about the directions for LEVEL 
9 - Room with "GO TO NEXT ROOM" that helped me get thru this level as I 
just bombed my way and fought my way around...

Anyway all of you who have contributed to the sanity of all of us 
ZELDETTES(?) THANK YOU, THANK YOU....

Oh, I have the following: 

     BLUE RING, FLUTE, ARROW (no bow), BAIT (which I have used, but bought
     again- just to be safe) - 9 HEARTS

I know that I need the raft for at least 1 heart, and I have blown the 
FLUTE in the pond where level 7 was in PHASE 1, to no avail.... could use 
help in there also, but will take what I can get for now...

You can send me mail via HBO::BROUILLET for any 
"hints"/spoilers/suggestions..... thanks again.

Linda

    I've finished all but Level 6 of the first quest.  I'm stumped as to
    how to kill the dragon (or whatever the name of it is) at the end. 
    I've got the sword from the graveyard and I try everything I can to get
    him in the eye with every weapon I've got but I inevitably get killed.
    Are there any hints someone can offer so I can move on the next quest?
    
    Also, purchasing the red magic potion (68 rupies, if I recall) allows
    one to regenerate all their hearts up to 2 times.  Assuming one has
    more than 136 rupies, is there a way to purchase (and keep) two of
    these magic potions so it might be possible to regenerate up to four
    times?
    
    -Andy

    re:  5.503
    
    Only 2 potions allowed at once.  No way to purchase 4.
    
    Spoiler:
    
    
    
    
    
    
    
    
    
    
    
    
    
    
    
    
    
    
    
    
    
    
    
    
    
    
    
    
    
    Can dragons live if their heads are separated from their bodies??

    Correction:  It isn't a dragon as I'd originally said -- it's something
    resembling a large crab.  I can't find anything that will even put a
    dent in the thing.  Any other ideas?
    
    -Andy (who's had this signature since early NOTES11)

RE: 5.502

Found POWER BRACELET while Noreiaga (sp???) was being transported.... but 
only after finding my 8th heart.... I thought that I had 9 but I 
miscounted.

My thanks to Sandi Ucci who sent me info.... I'm still wondering about the 
RAFT....was it in LEVEL 3 in PHASE 1 and possibly in LEVEL 4 in PHASE 2...
the only secret staircase I found led to the TRIFORCE.

I also found LEVEL 4 - I had found levels 6 and 7 previously and have gone 
in them --- VERY INTERESTING..... also bombed west of the waterfall and 
can't get to the hole in the wall as yet.... I need the raft for this....

I am stumped as to where HEART(s) in the overworld might be.... I found the 
one in the "sand", graveyard and I can "see" the one on the water, there 
was mention of one near where ZOLA alone guards the water.... I've tried 
blowing the flute and using the FLAME, but the blue candle is only good for 
one screen at a time.... I'm finding lots of "rubies" and paying lots of 
"door repairs"---- and have been wisked away to where I "didn't" want to 
go, but that's the fun of this game.  I've found where you can buy a 
"heart" for 10 rubies.... so I'll keep "playing" the flute and "flaming" 
bushes/trees.... I haven't found any trees that will let me burn them, lots 
of bushes.... are there any trees that you can burn, or are they really 
bushes...

I really feel good about the POWER BRACELET, I couldn't remember for the 
life of me where I found it in PHASE 1... anyway I have it.... NOW off to 
"conquer" LEVEL 4.....

Thanks again Sandie.



Linda

< Note 5.505 by PEACHS::MITCHAM "Andy in Alpharetta (near Atlanta)" >


<    Correction:  It isn't a dragon as I'd originally said -- it's something
<    resembling a large crab.  I can't find anything that will even put a
<    dent in the thing.  Any other ideas?
    
 
Andy, there is a reference in an earlier note regarding this, but I'll give 
you a hint


spoiler to follow


do you have bow?





watch the eye !!!!




Play William Tell !!!


If you want specifics read on


another spoiler




watch from the doorway - his eye opens and closes
but not often.... activate your arrow

have lots of hearts - AIM FOR THE EYE

It might take awhile, but he can be beaton.

Good luck


L

    I just got Zelda a couple of days ago and can not seem to find the
    entrance to #5 (first time through).  I have found other ones (6,8,9)
    but not 5.  I have looked everywhere!! Well almost, I would have
    found it if I HAD looked everywhere.  I need help!!  Where do I
    find it??  Do I need something else??  I currently have - Magic
    Shield, bow & arrow, ring, braclet, raft, ladder..
    
    Thanks,
    Quinn

    Re: 508
    Quinn,
    
    To find Level 5 in Phase I:
    
    Have you talked to a man who told you to climb up, up, up, the
    mountain?
    
    If you need a major spoiler, send mail to swam1::ucci_sa
    
    Sandie

    Re:  506
    
    Linda,
    
    A raft won't get you to the entrance you found when bombing near
    the waterfall.  You need a LADDER for that one.
    
    I never found a single tree that would BURN.  Stick with the bushes.
    
    I haven't played in a while but I do remember that I found the
    RAFT in the Level just before I needed the Raft to get to the next
    Level.  Does that make sense??
    
    If you need the raft to get to level 4 then the raft was in Level 3.
    If you need the raft to get to level 5 then the raft was in Level 4.
    And so on..........
    
    Sandie

Re: 510

Thanks again Sandie.... I don't know if I'll be able to get to ZELDA 
tonight or tomorrow night, but DEFINATELY Saturday sometime.... can't wait, 
I'm now on a "roll" looking forward to getting the "letter" and then going 
into/and conquering LEVEL 4 and hopefully 5.

Is LEVEL 8 the one near the waterfall? that's ok, once I get the ladder in 
6 (which should be a doosie), I'll be going in....

Boy this is a fun game!!!

Linda

Well, I made it thru PHASE 2 Level 4 last night - heading for level 5 
tonight if possible.... BUT, I would like, if possible a spoiler on where 
the 5th overworld heart is.  I have found/know of 4 and I will list them 
after the formfeed....




1- graveyard - got
1- gravel/sandy area - got
1- across the water - got
1- next to water - need ladder from level 6
1- ?

could some kind person send me mail if they don't want to put it in here, 
just approximately where it might be and should I use flame or flute...
I've found lost of rubies... but would like that 5th heart if possible...

Thanks,

Linda

    
     I bought this ZELDA for my wife for Christmas and have become addicted
    to this game. But, alas I seek some help. I cannot find the 5th heart
    container in the overworld. I read one note which said a tree had to be
    burned near where Zola was the sole guard for this area but I can't
    find it. Please help if you can. Post it here or send mail to Joe Penn
    @GGO.
    
     I'll hide what I have found.
    
     There is an area at G-4 on the corner where a tree can be burned for a
    shop. I went east to H-4 where there is just Zola and trees I have
    burned every tree to no avail. Am I looking in the wrong area or
    looking for the wrong thing?
    
    
    
    
    

The 5th heart is...
    
    
    
    
    
    
    
    
    
    
    
    
    
    
    
    
    
    
    
    
    
    
    
    
    
    
    
    
    
    in a big rock
    
    
    
    
    
    
    
    
    
    
    
    
    
    try using a bomb, but I don't know where it is on the BIG rock in
    the northeast.

    Would someone please post (or mail me) the location of the silver
    arrows and red ring located in labrynth 9 so I can be done with Phase
    1?  I've looked everywhere and just can't seem to find them...
    
    -Andy

    
    RE 514
    
     Thanks I have that one though, if your reply was for phase 1 and not
    phase 2.
    
     I'll hide what I do have. This is for phase 1
    
    
    
     1 that is 4 screens from the start
     1 on the raft
     1 on the island
     1 in a rock in the N.E. section
    
     Still missing one though.
    
    

Spoiler for 5th heart  follows:




Try blowing the flute/whistle  in a sandy part between where the island is
and a body of water. I seem to remember things coming out of the ground to
attack link there also.

- George

     I don't have the flute yet. I'm trying to get the 5th heart in the
    overworld to get the magic sword so I can kill the stupid darknuts in
    -5 to get the flute. 
      
    
     Is there a tree to burn to get a heart as stated in an earlier note?
    
     Thanks
    

    OK, someone pointed the way and I've found both the ring and silver
    arrows.  Now, if I can just find my way to Gannon again...
    
    -Andy

    Can someone please tell me if I need the wand to defeat Gannon ? If so,
    how about a spoiler ?
    
    Also, where is the silver arrow ? I got to Gannon and he even turned
    Brown but the sword didn't do it ? Is there a way to defeat him without
    the arrow and why does he disappear ? A major spoiler please. Thanks. 

re .520

Spoiler follows



The silver arrow is someplace in level 9.
You need to pay attention to some of the clues that you get along the way...
One such clue states "Theres a secret in the tip of the nose"
You must use the silver arrow to kill gannon, no, you dont need the wand for
Gannon but....., well I'll leave that for you.

- George

    I too need help finding the whistle.  It seems to be in a room
    at the top of the Lab. 5, but we can't get into those rooms.
    Bombing the walls does not work.  Are there secret passages that
    I can't find.  Also in Lab. 5, we were quite upset when we killed
    all the rhinos, got into the locked room, there really wasn't
    anything to speak of in there.  Again, did we miss something.
    I'd appreciate some hints, we've been in Lab. 5 for a few days
    now and can't figure it out.  Respond or mail USWAV1::BRADISH.
    
    Thanks.

    
     I can tell you where the whistle.
    
    spoiler follows
    
    
     Go into 5 and straight ahead there are 3 (I think) mummy like things,
    go to the room west. There will be many mummy like things. Bomb the
    west wall you will go into a room with many darknuts these are very
    hard to kill. After you kill them all you can push a block out of the
    way and go down steps then up steps into another room. If you go left
    there is another room full of darknuts that you must kill in order to
    move a block to get the whistle.
    
     If you happen to find the 5th heart in the overworld please let me
    know. Seems like there is one near a zola that I can't find, even after
    reading the hints in this note, and burning many bushes. And it also
    seems no one is willing to help.
    
    Joe

    Please tell me where the silver arrow is. I have benn in the right eye
    twice and cannot find it. Do I need the wand to get it because that's
    all I missed. If so, please - a real spoiler. I'm desperate.

    re .523
    
    spoiler follows for the 5th heart
    
    
    
    
    
    
    
    
    
    
    
    
    
    
    
    
    
    
    
    
    
    
    
    
    
    
    
    
    
    
    
    L7 cave near ocean
    M2 cave
    P2 island
    P5 raft
    H4 burn bushes
    

    Helllllllllllllllllllllllllllllp
    
    
    I'm stil in need of a spoiler for the silver arrow  Quest 1 level 9. I
    have been to all the rooms two or three (or more times). Getting worse.
    

    
    RE.525
    
    
     Thanks very much for the info. I had burned in that area once but,
    must have missed a bush.
    
    Thanks again
    
    
    
    

    HEY OUT THERE ... ISN'T ANYONE GOING TO HELP ? IT'S BEEN TWO + DAYS AND
    STILL NO SILVER ARROW SPOILER .... PLEASE, I AM DESPERATE
    
    QUEST 1 LEVEL 9
    

All right, here it is (I think+hope)
































Do you still want my guess this bad?























OK! Try the VERY upper corner. I think either it or the red ring is there.
I believe this is right. To show you how good I am, I in 3rd quest level 9.
It is the same as the 2nd quest

                                                  Joey Doucette

    re .530
    Thanks alot - I finished Quest 1 last night.
    

Which one was there? Red Ring or Silver Arrow? I haven't played 1st quest in a 
long time (now i'm in level 9 3rd quest). I just want to know.

    Just where is the magic book in quest 2?
    
    I've read it's in lab 4, I found in lab 4 the following.....
    
    
    
    
    
    
    
    
    
    
    
    
    
    
    
    
    
    
    
    
    
    
    - Triforce, raft, map, compass, heart
    - and many enemies (I REALLY dislike the blobs who turn my sword
    	off with the darknuts swirling about).  What room is the book
    in . .. . or what room has a passage in it that leads to the book?
    I also  can't figure out how to get a key in a room full ofbats
    ---it seems you need the ladder.

    re .532:
    
    Is there really a quest 3?  I thought that there were only 2 quests
    in ZELDA I.
    				
    				-- Paula
    

    .532 spoiler follows
    
    
    
    
    
    
    
    
    
    
    
    
    silver arrow was in the top left room

Yes there is a quest 3. You go into it after you beat quest 2. It could be an 
error, but I am in quest 3. It dose the same thing as in quest 1. There is one 
difference. In quest 1 Zelda says you will go into another quest. After beating 
quest 2 It does not say this. It is the same as quest 2 but one thing, The 
enemys move the same speed as in the first quest. The skeletons still throw 
their swords. Eveything is in the same locatationn.


                                                Joey Doucette

Well, I have to let you know that I DEFEATED GANNON Phase II, on Jan 18, 1990 
at 8:44 p.m.... this was a great game and all the help in this note files was 
greatly appreciated.....

To all out there just starting their journies.... keep plugging away, and 
be persistant... keep bombing and playing the flute whereever you are and 
in the various levels.... just keep going.... I never made a map of any of 
the levels but I did get the upper map in each room and found that if I 
remembered where I went and what happened I would either go back or stay 
away from it....

It's a great game, it took me longer for phase I (about 4-5 months) and 
only 3 weeks for phase II (I only got to it about 1-2 hours 2 or 3 times 
a week.

Anyway, to all who have contributed to this notes file, thanks for the 
hints, "spoilers", etc. some were used some were saved incase I needed to 
use them....

Good luck to all who are beginning their "quest" -

See you in "The Adventures of Link" Part II - I have to finnish that one 
now as I am in Castle 6 - trying to get the dragon...

Linda

    My nine-year-old has completed all of the first eight labs in phase
    one. He has 16 hearts, staff of power, recorder, max of 16 bombs,
    red candle, bow & arrow, letter, raft, ladder, book of magic, blue
    ring, and the power bracelet. The problem is, we just can't seem
    to find the entrance to lab 9. While in lab 8, he never did find
    the map, or the magic key. He would like some hints/spoilers for
    finding them as well. Does he need the magic key to find the entrance
    to lab 9? He has found the two large rocks that look like spectacles,
    but bombing, or pushing hasn't revealed the entrance.

re .538

spoilers follow:

He should find the magic key, it is not used to find the 9th lab
but, is necessary to be able to traverse it.
Spectacle rock is correct as the clue said. Maybe he just hasn't bombed
the correct place yet.....
I believe that lab 8 has a secret passage that leads to the key, he needs
to call on passed experiences to find the passages (i.e. how did he get 
certain doors to open, etc, etc)

- george

This is a repost of note 5.155 because I have changed jobs and all of my
files are on a different node.  Check the end of this reply for the new
node name.

========================================================================

If anyone is interested, I have a text based map of the overworld for
quest one.  The name of the file is hidden behind the formfeed.  I
printed it on an LPS40 with the following command:

PRINT/PAR=(DATA=ANSI,SHEET_SIZ=B,PAGE_ORIEN=LAND)/QUE=queue_name filename.ext

That's 11x17 paper.  The rooms come out squarish, but readable.  It should
be obvious from the listing what the various characters represent.

  (e.g. ~ - water
	* - shrubs
	A - Armos
	n - doorways
	#/\^v - stone walls
	etc, etc, etc)

Note, none of the places where you have to bomb or burn are revealed.  You
may ask "What use is a text based map when I have a nice color one from
Nintendo?".  It is useful for marking with pen, pencil, and/or highlighter,
thereby not ruining your nice color one from Nintendo.

The name of the file for the quest one overworld is:

	CURIE::USER$2:[STAPLETON.PUBLIC.ZELDA]Q1OVER.MAP

Actually, anything in CURIE::USER$2:[STAPLETON.PUBLIC] is up for grabs.

	Stapes

    Please help!!!
    I am in phase 2, level 4.  I have bombed, walked, stabbed every
    single thing I can think of.  I have gotten the triforce and the
    book, but for the life of me, I can NOT find the stupid raft.  I
    can not proceed to any other level until I get the raft or the ladder.
     Can someone please provide me with a map of level 4 or at least
    some information as to where I can get them???
    
    Thanks in advance.
    Louise

    How does one know what phase/level/etc one is at, at any point in the
    game?
    
    Learning,
    Monte

    At the start you are in the over-world, and no level is indicated
    on the screen. But when you are in a sub-world then it will be a
    level, and you will know what level you are in by looking in the
    top left corner. You are in phase one until you complete level nine.
     
    
    				Joey Andres
    

    R.E. 541
    
     Have you been able to find the raft yet? I,like you, have looked to no
    avail. If I find it I'll let you know, let me know if you find the
    raft. It dosen't seem as if your going to get another help.
    
    Joe
    

    Re: 541, 543
    
    I can offer some advice on locating the raft.
    
    <<possible spoiler follows>>
    
    Have you found the triforce in Level 4 yet?  Your search for the raft
    should start there.
    
    
    Mary

<SPOILER>

Defeat the monster at the end. go into the triforce room. Go to the top of the 
room. Walk through the wall. It is somewhere in there.

    I  F I N A L L Y  found the dumb raft.
    
    
    
    
    
    SPOILER TO FOLLOW:
    
    
    
    
    
    
    
    
    
    
    
    
    After walking through the north wall, you have to push one of the
    many blocks, which will reveal another passage.  It took a long
    long time to figure this one out so I thank all of you for the hints.
    
    Now I have another question...I cannot proceed into level 6 or 7
    without the arrow/bow, of which I have none.  Have I missed a level
    or somewhere that I get the bow???  Please help.  Spoilers welcome.
    
    This is in phase 2.
    
    Thanks in advance
    Louise
    

    PLEASE!!!
    
    I know this must sound like a pretty dumb question, since I notice
    no one else has asked for help on locating the BOW.
    
    I am in phase 2 and can not proceed with Level 6-9 until I get the
    bow.  Would some one send me a spoiler or clue or downright answer?
    
    Louise
                                                      

    _I_ did it!  Mr. All-thumbs-VanDeusen finished quest 1 last night at
    210 lives.  Thanks to Mr Stapleton's lab maps (I used about 5 of them)
    and all the help in this file, _I_ finally did it.  I am convinced now,
    that ANYONE can successfully play Zelda with enough persistence.
    
    On to Quest 2!! - Without help (I hope)!
    
    Monte

    I am in need of a spoiler, not a hint, an out an out spoiler on phase 2
    First let me say I have read all these replys and I am still frustrated
    on three areas. 1 whear to find the letter to give the old lady. I have
    looked everywhere. I know there is a reference to a "bowling alley" but
    I can not find it. 2. I am stuck in lab 4. I have the book , the tri
    force and the heart but no raft. After killing the digdogger I went
    north and killed the red knights, then went north again and killed the
    3 rhinos, went north again and died fighting darknuts and rabbits.
    Please whear is the stinking raft :-) 3. I would like the location
    of the hearts. I have the one from the sand and the heights blowing
    the recorder, I can see the one offshore, whear are the other two.
    send me mail direct if you are hesitant about posting the information
    in this file.  Remember I am desperate..
    
    
                                                   Thanks in advance
                                                    Stan

O.k. <SPOILER> follows..

Heres a hint...
look in the upper left section.
Spoiler

try the second or third screen down from eather the first or second screen 
across.
                                                       Joey Doucette

    I HATE DARKNUTS ! ARGH !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
     I have been playing Zelda for about a week now and have been
    stuck in level 5 for 3 days. The stupid little darknuts are 
    driving me to drink and I have run out of hooch !! Oh well,
    back to the pharmacy for some more medicine and another try
    when I get home tonight. I hope all you gamesters that have
    finished Zelda are getting a chuckle out of this and I'm not
    looking for any help, I just wanted to whine a little. Those
    little blue devils are sure tough !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
    
    Jim Cooper

Try using bombs. 
                                                Joey Doucette

    re: -3
    
    just mini spoiler 
    
    
    I'm assuming you've used your sword on their "front" that is "protected"
    via a shield..... Did you use it on "non" shield-ed sides?

    
    Boy, am I annoyed.  My roommate and I have been playing Zelda, but the
    highest level we can get up to (first pass) is level 6.  It's not that
    we can't get past level 6 because of our playing (in)ability (although
    those Like Likes are nasty).  It's because, although we save the games
    taking every precaution listed in the instruction booklet, our
    characters keep getting erased.  Has anyone else had these problems or
    is this just a case where I should take the cartridge back and get a
    new one?
    
    
    			---krak

    re getting erased - 
    
    if you're doing everything the book says you should, then you probably
    have a weak battery in the cartridge...
    
    Time to call Nintendo (or return it to the store)..
    
    jack
    

    
    	
    	I need help trying to finish off level 6. I can't seem to find the
    	the passage-way to the last remaining room up on top. I 've already
    	finished level 7 & 8 but can't finish off level 6. Where is the
    	passage-way for level 6? I been hunting this for days and can't
    	seem to find it. I getting very frustrated and so are my kids. Can
    	somebody out there please give me a down-right spoiler?
    
    	Thanks,
    
    	Anthony
    

    Anthony,
    
    Are you in the first or second game of LEGEND OF ZELDA??

    
    	I am still in the first phase of the game. I first had said I need
    	a major spoiler for level #6 but it is level #7 that's kicking my
    	tail. I can't seem to get to the remaining rooms. I still have not 
    	been in about five rooms and there all at the top. I do need a
    	major spoiler to help me complete level #7.. I have already the Magic
    	Sword, Magic Book & Wand, Red Ring, Magic Boomerang, and 12 Heart
    	containers. Whatever help I can get from my fellow noters would be
    	appreciated!
    
    	Anthony
    

    Did you get past the "Grumble,Grumble" guy?  Is level 7 the one with
    a room in the upper left hand corner where the purple hands come at
    you and have you figured out which stone to push?

    Re .561
    
    	Yes, I have gotten past the part where I give the Goriya some 
    	food. I have not come across the the hands yet. I noticed a 
    	room where there was two blocks in the middle of the room but
    	I tried pushing the blocks but nothing happened. Since the doors
    	were already open I figured the blocks once  pushed the would
    	reveal a secret passage.
    
    	Anthony
    

Re -.2


Did you bomb on the uppermost left wall?

                                         Joey Doucette

    
    I need help with level 4 Phase II...I have been reading in here that
    the magic book is in level 4?  Well, I cannot get into the bottom
    leftmost room of the apparent number "2" shape that the lab is in.
    
    I take it that is where it is if it is in here.  What does the magic
    book do for you without the wand anyways? or did I miss that, too?
    
    I am currently in level 6 trying to get by those guys with the
    spells...
    
    All the help would be appreciated.  Thanks
    						Chris
    

    
    OK, so I found the room and it just had a key.  Then, I finally
    found the 4th overworld heart and then defeated level-6. 
    
    BUT....
    
    Where in the overworld is level-7?  I have read through these notes
    and not found the answer...(I think! there are a lot)  I have the
    maps from 4.428+ but cannot find the lab.
    
    spoilers are welcomed!
    
    Chris

near where level 8 was in 1st quest, i think 1 or 2 screens left and 1 down,
there is a tree that needs to be burned.


        ***  ********
	***  ********
	***  x*
	***  **
	***  **
	     **
	     **
	*************
	*************
 where * = tree and x = door. the screen looks something like this. I haven't
tried this game in over a year so I'm not sure of exactly what it looks like but
should be close to this.

     Brian

    re: -.1
    
    Brian,
    	Thanks for the tip...
    
    
    
    
    
    chris
    

Re: .??? (I don't remember which reply)

Quest 1 - Labyrinth 5 - Blue Darknuts

It seems that many people have problems with these Blue Darknuts.  The way
I deal with them requires two things:

	1.  Full hearts (so that your sword fires across the room)
	2. A boatload of patience.

Enter the room - the Darknuts always start off on the other side of the
room.  Fire your sword at them - if any of them come over to your side of
the room, leave the room, and come right back in.  Repeat this until they
are history!

The first time I did this, it was with the medium sword -- yes, it is
possible, but it takes a long time.  It is much easier with the best sword.

After dealing with the first set of Blue Darknuts, the second set is easy
because you do not have to leave the room.  You need only step into the
doorway until the Darknuts leave your side of the room.

	Stapes

    RE: last
    
    I was under the impression that monsters 'heal' when you leave the room
    If a monster requires two hits to die, and you hit it once, leave, and
    then return, it will still require two hits to die.  Is this not true?
    
    RE: Losing characters
    
    I noted recently that I had been losing characters even though I was
    following the directions.  On the suggestion of other noters, I
    exchanged the cartridge for a new one, but it still happened.  I called
    the toll free number, and was informed that to absolutely sure no stray
    charge is left in the console which might erase the characters, it was
    best to continue holding the reset button for 30 seconds after turning
    off the power.  I'll have to see if the problem still happens.
    
    
    			---krak

    krak:
    
    You're right about monsters losing hits when you exit the room, but
    ...........
    
    if you KILL one and leave and return, the one you killed will not
    come back.  In this manner, to stay safe, it might be worth leaving
    a room (even though you lose hits) to insure that you live longer.
    
    

Re: .569 by ASHBY::KRAKAUER

Yes, the monsters will heal if you leave the room, but then again, you will
remain at full strength.  Eventually, you will get one of the monsters,
which makes it easier to stay in the room a little longer, etc, etc, etc.

The method works fine.  All you need is a boat load of patience.

	Stapes

    I recently bought ZELDA for my son, but I'm the one who's playing it.
    I gotten through levels 1 and 2.  I have a couple of questions.
    (I've checked out the 1st hundred or so replies)
    
    1.  When I save a game I see that I have 157 rubies.  However, when I
    continue the game I only have 32 rubies that I can spend.  What's 
    happening?
    
    2.  I found a subcellar and treasure in level 1, but didn't find anything 
    in level 2.  I've already gotten the life heart container out of level 2.
    Is there something in level 2?  I've push every stone but have yet to
    find something.  I did pick up a treasure after defeating a bunch of
    boomerrang throwing cretins though.  Is this it?
    
    
    
    Thanks.
    Mike                                            
    
    
    

>    1.  When I save a game I see that I have 157 rubies.  However, when I
>    continue the game I only have 32 rubies that I can spend.  What's 
>    happening?
    
most likely you are not saving the game properly.
first, select SAVE on the menu using the 'select' button (i think)
then hold in the reset button while shutting off the unit.

>    2.  I found a subcellar and treasure in level 1, but didn't find anything 
>    in level 2.  I've already gotten the life heart container out of level 2.
>    Is there something in level 2?  I've push every stone but have yet to
>    find something.  I did pick up a treasure after defeating a bunch of
>    boomerrang throwing cretins though.  Is this it?
    
I believe that is all you get in the second level.    
    
- george    
    
    

    Mike,
      When you want to stop playing a game and are at the screen
    that says continue, save, retry make sure that you use the
    select key to move the cursor to save, then hit the start
    button and you will see SAVE flash several times. At that
    point hold in the RESET button on your game deck and turn
    off the power to the deck. CONTINUE HOLDING THE RESET BUTTON
    FOR SEVERAL SECONDS !!!! This should save all data for your
    next adventure.
      As for level 2, I think you got the Magic Boomerang but have
    left something in an upper level room that you will want. Use
    the start button to see what treasures you have at this point.
    After finishing 1 & 2 you should have the Magic Boomerang and
    a Bow, if you don't have these 2 items it's time to go back
    and make sure that you have thoroughly searched every room in
    the labrinths.
       There is a map with the game that is very helpful but some
    people don't want to use it. It is up to you !!
       I have been playing the game for a few weeks and really enjoy
    it. I finished the first game and was ready to take on Level-9
    in the second game but my character was accidently erased so be
    very careful when saving game info. It has been frustrating going
    back through the first game and knowing what still awaits me to
    get back to level-9 in the second game. Much faster the second time
    around though !!!
       You are going to love the Darknuts in level-5 ! ha-ha-ha-ha !!!!!
    
    Jim Cooper

    I was going to tackle level-9 quest 2 the other night and
    when I turned the game on my character had been totally
    erased !!! The other two characters were still ok so I don't
    know what happened. 
       Anyway, it took me 23 lives and a couple of hours to get
    back to level-9 quest 1 and I am having some kind of trouble
    with Gannon ! The first time around I took him out with little
    difficulty but this time is different. I have 16 hearts, the
    silver arrow, red ring, full life force bottle (red) and I
    can't ever get  Gannon to reappear after entering his room.
    He blinks out, I start ducking and weaving all over the room 
    and shoot silver arrows till I run out (yes, 255 times) but
    he never shows himself again. I did this twice last night and
    am getting curious (frustrated !!!|) about what is going on.
    Have I forgotten how to get Gannon to reappear or am I just
    a really crummy shooter ? Any hints from you expert linksters
    would be appreciated. HOW DO I GET THIS HEINOUS FIEND TO
    REAPPEAR !!!!
    
    Thanks,
      Jim Cooper

    Its been a while since I've played but I believe you get Gannon
    to appear by firing your sword not the arrows.  When he disappears
    keep firing your sword till he reappears then do him in with the
    arrows.  Hope this helps....Mike

    
    I posted a while ago about losing characters during power down.  I
    called the Nintendo service number and was told that you should
    continue to hold the RESET button for at least 30 seconds after turning
    off the power.  The idea is to let the console completely charge down.
    I tried this on a brand new Zelda cartridge, and I still lost my
    character.  I suggest holding RESET down even longer.  I was also told
    that this sort of erasure can result in some characters being erased
    while others are left untouched.  It sure is annoying...
    
    
    			---krak

    How to beat Ganon:
    
    <SPOILER>!!!
    
    Last chance... This really tells you a lot!
    
    When you reach the room Ganon is in, run around and swing your sword
    occasionally.  He will appear a couple of times.  When he appears and
    is brown/tan in color, that is when you shoot him with the silver aroow
    a couple of times.  This should dust him.
    
    Mike

    Thanks for the tips guys ! I'm sure that I must of used those 
    techniques the first time around but forgot about the sword
    in my frustration over losing the character. I read the note
    about holding in the reset button for several seconds but I
    don't know if the other players have been so careful !!
     I think I will have a marathon session and finish the quests
    without shutting down the game this time !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
    
    Thanks again,
       Jim

    
    
    re: .575
    
    Jim,
    	Were you at quest 2 level 9 when you lost
    your character, because if you were you could
    have typed in the name ZELDA as a character name
    and started at the beginning of quest 2 again,
    and not at the beginning of quest 1.
    	I hope that you made a typing mistake and
    did not have to go through the whole quest1
    again...!  
    
    Chris

    re. 580
       I was so mad about losing my character that I was already
    back in Quest 1 level-5 kicking the Darknuts around when I
    remembered that I could have done that so I decided to play
    out Quest 1 again just for drill. Took me 24 lives to do
    the entire quest. I'm back in Q 2 again now and should be back
    to level 9 in a couple of days. Thanks for the tip though !!
    
    Jim

    
    	Can someone please give me directions on finding the map for
    Q2 level 4.  I've played in this level for four days and my patiences
    is running very low.  I've gone around bombing walls, walking thru
    walls but I can't tell how much of the level I haven't been in.  
    It seems like I've been in what seems like half the level, but I 
    still haven't gotten over near the triforce on the right side.  I
    have gotten the magic book already, and I've tried blowing the 
    recorder in each room hoping to open a secret passageway, but no
    luck.  So if someone can tell me how to find the map, it would sure
    save me from going crazy.  Also I've already read the entire note
    and seen no mention, so I must be skipping doing something simple, 
    cause the map usually is not difficult to find.  
    
                                        Thanks in advance
                                          
                                           Rick B.

    re. 582
       I will check tonight and let you know when I get in. But it seems
    like it was hard to find and didn't appear until all foes were
    destroyed in the room. Also I remember that I found it after destroying
    the head monster in the labrynth so I was done when I accidently
    stumbled across it.
     Jim Cooper 
    

    Here's a real good clue on how to get to level 4, quest 2:
    
    you need to move a rock
    
    to get "LOST" when finding this rock :-)

    
    
    	Well, I gave it another try last night and I finally found the
    map.  I ran out of blood while trying to finish level 4 last night,
    but I will finish it tonight.  I got the heart container and found
    the triforce, and I'm going after the raft next.  I would have 
    finished level 4 but I went up into the overworld to get more bombs
    and fill up my hearts, but I forgot to buy more blood bottles, and
    didn't realize it till I was back into level 4, and it was time for
    bed.  I'm looking forward to getting to Q2 level 5, after which I 
    should have 12 heart containers so I'll be able to get the magic
    sword.  I sure hate having to hit the creatures multiple times to kill
    them.  Anyways, Thanks for the help.  My mind is still intact.
    
                                             Thanks again,
    
                                                Rick B.

    I know that there are many places to "walk through walls"
    during Quest 2 while in the labrynths. I have seen several
    references to someplace in the Overworld where you can walk
    through a wall supposedly in both Quests. I have the Blue
    Ring so I hope that isn't the place being mentioned. Any
    clues to this Overworld walk-through would be appreciated.
    Or is it just a ruse !!! 
    
    Jim

    Pointer:
    
    
    head northeast.

    Its been a while but lets see if I can remember.  In Quest 1 there
    is a room in the upper right hand quadrant where there is a gambling
    tree, you know one of those trees you walk into and pick a coin
    for various + or - coins.  Anyways, in Quest 2 you can walk through
    the rock wall directly in back of this tree, I forget whats on the
    other side, maybe rupies.
    
    	Hope this helps....Mike

    Behind the wall quest 2
    
    
    
    You can buy the blue ring.

    Well, I finished quest 2 last night !! I was a little disappointed
    by the ease with which I explored and conquered level-9 and Gannon.
    I expected a much tougher maze and battle than quest 1 and was
    surprised that I didn't need a map to find my way through level-9.
    Anyone else feel cheated by quest 2 or is it just me ??
    Oh well, now for a real challenge, Friday the 13th !!!!!!
    
    
    Jim C.

    I have to thank all you Zelda champs for all your help!  I have
    an inch of helpful hints that have got me to @half way through 
    Quest 1.  A couple of small questions though!
    
    
    
    Question 1: In Lab 7, up where the fuzzy hands are, do you have to 
    kill the hands and anything else there to be able to push the block?
    Or can you slide in without attacking??  If you must kill, 
    how do you do in those hands and whatever else is in there????
    
    Question 2: I looked for the 5th overworld heart where you burn
    the bush next to water that Zola protects and all I see is a shop
    where you can buy a heart(not heart container) for 10 rupies?????
    I thought a container was here?
                  
    Question 3: When I blow that hard fought whistle(recorder) where
    does the whirlwind take me?
    
    By the way, I just got this game from my nephew and yes I read all
    of note 5.0 and all 590 replies to this note!
    
    Thanks for the help!
    
    Phil

    Answer to your questions !!!
    
    #1
    
     Yes,  you must kill all the hands before you can push the
    block. I believe the other "things" are sword stealers and
    you let the blue one hit you to regain the sword. It is a 
    lot of fun dodging those things and also trying to kill the
    hands at the same time. I found it best to stay inside the
    "u-shaped" portion and strike at the hands after luring them out.
    
    #2
    
      The fifth heart is in a section along the lake where you
    only encounter Zola and no other enemies. I think you were
    near the heart when you found the shop that sells heart
    refills.
    
    #3
    
       The whistle seems to follow a random pattern when used
    during the first quest. Generally it will take you to the
    next lower level when you blow it at a level entrance, this
    doesn't happen from every level though so just be aware that
    your journey could end up just about anywhere.
    
    Good luck on finishing the game and be very cautious when using
    the save feature as it is a real pain to have your character
    accidentally erased. Especially if you are almost done !!!!!!
    Quest 2 is a lot of fun also !!!
    
    Jim C.

    Additional help for .591
    
    
    
    In quest #1 the ghost only take your sword for a short period of time.
    What I do on the hands is I make them appear and if a ghost hits me
    making me lose my sword I hit the hand with my boomarang until my sword
    returns.  The hand is stunned and will stay until you can kill it.

    Thanks again, I successfully completed level 7, got that heart and
    the ...
    
    
    
    elusive 5th heart...thanks to that hint!  Now I'm attempting Lab
    6 and I'm finding out that I could really use the heart restoring
    potion.  I can get all the way up to the room before GHOMA, the
    one with wissrobes and traps, but with only a couple hearts left.
    
    I bought potion once and used it to get me through LAB 5 and those
    fun loving darknuts.  
    Question: Did I use all the available potion?  Whe I got the 5th
    heart I could have bought the potion but went for the heart.  Did
    I use up all the potion??
    
    Thanks again
    
    Phil

    You can return anytime to the "old woman" in the cave and
    buy more life potion. Actually there are several locations
    where you can buy more potion if you have discovered them.
    I think that the bottle of potion in the cave with the
    heart containers is just a trick to get you to miss picking
    up another container. THe potion works but when you return
    to the cave the container is gone ! Have you found the letter
    to show the old woman ?? Also, have you found the third sword ?
    How about the blue ring and power bracelet ? I have played the
    game twice and really enjoy it !!
    
    Jim C.

    re: 5.594
    
    Spoiler to follow:
    
    
    
    
    
    
    
    
    
    
    
    
    
    
    
    
    
    
    
    
    
    I completed level 7 and 8 and finished level 6 LAST.  The things you
    find in level 7 & 8 seem to work the best against the ghosts.

    RE: Recorder question
    
    
    	You can, in fact, control where you are taken when you use the
    recorder. If you are facing right when you use it, you will be taken to
    the next higher-level labrynth; if facing left, you will be taken to
    the next lower level. (I might have the direction reversed, but the
    point is that if you face in one direction, you will move to the
    levels sequentially; if you face the other direction, you will go in the
    opposite sequence.)
    
    Hope this helps...
    

    Re. last
    
    	I always faced up and down.  They take you up or down the sequence. 
    I could never remember what left and right did.
    							Ned

    Hi,  I am new to Zelda and am in the first quest.  I am having a
    difficult time killing the many headed dragon in quest 4.  I have
    the blue ring, 8 container hearts, medicine, bombs bow and arrow.
    I go in the room with all the hearts full, 8 bombs, arrows and no
    matter how much i bomb, throw white swords, shoot arrows, I can't
    defeat this  dragon.  What am I doing wrong.  I have read all of
    the replies in this file and could not find anything about killing
    this dragon.  Please help!!!!!!!