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Title:Nintendo Game Systems
Notice:Please enter Super NES notes in Yuppy::Super_NES.
Moderator:RUSURE::EDP
Created:Tue Oct 20 1987
Last Modified:Mon Feb 03 1997
Last Successful Update:Fri Jun 06 1997
Number of topics:847
Total number of notes:11602

498.0. "Crystalis by SNK" by CLUSTA::EFRANK () Sat Aug 11 1990 01:39

    Crystalis by SNK
    
    It seems this company keeps putting out good games.
    
    Crystalis is a lot like link and zelda combined. There are many items,
    and armor to get as well as different types of magic. The best thing
    about Crystalis is the characters. Good hints, and some puzzles to
    solve. The graphics and music are good too. I had to call the Nintendo
    hotline to get a tip on something and the gamplay councelor told me
    that the other councelors are playing this game quite a bit. It is
    really popular. There is quite a bit to do in this game. It is reviewed
    in the last Nintendo Power that came out (not the power play mag).
    
    have fun
    eric
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498.1Save/Password????CURIE::BERNIERSat Aug 11 1990 02:3412
    
    Hi,
    
    
    Does this game have a battery backup or a password feature?
    
    What is the going price for it and at what store did you get it from?
    
    
    	Thanks
    
    	Wayne
498.2battery backupCLUSTA::EFRANKSun Aug 12 1990 00:549
    
    Oops,
    
    The game has battery backup, and can save two games.
    
    I found it in Computer junction but it was the last one.
    
    
    eric
498.3ANOTHER ONE BITES THE DUSTWMOIS::DIPASQUALE_MTue Aug 21 1990 13:182
    Just finished Crystalis after about one solid week of playing . What
    an awesome game!  If anyone needs help let me know.
498.4Fly me to the moon?DUGGAN::WILLINGERMon Aug 27 1990 13:4913
    Great game so far, but we're stumped and could use a hint.  Our hero
    is unable to obtain the Ball of Thunder, which will enable him to power
    up his Sword of Thunder and break through metal walls (and metal, 
    fire-breathing bulls?). 
    
    <Possiple spoiler> 
    We can see several treasure chests in Mt. Hydra that cannot be reached
    without flying across lava canals.  Also unreachable is an area near
    the top of Mt. Hydra that is just a short jump across a ledge, but
    probably also requires flying.  Do we need flight magic to find the
    ball of thunder?  I believe it is Kensu who gives this spell, but he's
    just standing outside the castle at Goa waiting for information.  What
    does he expect?
498.5On to Goa castle!DUGGAN::WILLINGERTue Aug 28 1990 13:321
    Never mind.  We've got it.  Wish our hero could fly, though.
498.6Amazones only talk to their own kindWMOIS::DIPASQUALE_MTue Aug 28 1990 16:029
    In reply to a message I recieved.  Your on the right track you do need
    the magic of change and once you get it you will know exactly what to
    do with it. I would love to give you a spoiler but I think that would not
    make it as challenging for you. I will tell you to just forget about
    these women and go on to another area. This game will not let you miss
    something that is important to the completion of the game. You just
    went out of sequence. I did the same thing and it took me awhile to
    figure out that I needed to take a different path. Give it another try
    and if your still stuck I'll give you an idea of where to go.
498.8saving the gameCLUSTA::EFRANKWed Aug 29 1990 21:394
You need to press select then start and position the highlight on save and put
the cursor on the game to save.

eric
498.9DELREY::UCCI_SADon't bunt. Aim out of the ballpark!Thu Aug 30 1990 12:079
    Here I am again......Help.
    
    I'm through the first cave, found the second town, got the statue and
    traded it for the gas mask so I could go in the poison swamp.  I've
    been through the swamp and found nothing.  I've been south to where
    the ice is.  I went in 2 caves and hit dead ends, I can't break thru
    the rocks.  What am I missing so early in the game?
    
    Frustrated
498.10Help in the forestWMOIS::DIPASQUALE_MThu Aug 30 1990 13:1736
    Their is something to find in the swamp that you need to continue.              
    <small spoiler>
    
    
    
    
    
    
    
    
    
    
    
    
    
    
    
    
    
    
    
    
    
    
    
    
    
    
    
    
    
    
    
    go into the swamp and take either your second or third left then go
    straight up and you will find another city. in this city they will tell
    you something that they need done before they give you anything.
498.11Go in Peace??DELREY::UCCI_SADon't bunt. Aim out of the ballpark!Thu Aug 30 1990 13:377
    Re:  -1
    
    I did find the city but everybody in the town just says "Go in Peace".
    They tell me nothing else.  They also block the entrances to the INN
    and stores.  What do I need to find before they'll talk to me?
    
    Sandie
498.12Map it!DUGGAN::WILLINGERThu Aug 30 1990 15:227
    Somebody in the town should tell you something useful
    <mild spoiler>
    about something/someone that's been lost - once you get this clue, you
    need to wander through the swamp maze and find it (mapping helps alot
    with this and all the other areas!).  Of course, you won't be finshed. 
    That will just lead you to the tougher encounter in the poison swamp.
                                                                   
498.13More about the SWAMPWMOIS::DIPASQUALE_MThu Aug 30 1990 15:2324
    Alright I'll take it one step further.
    <spoiler>
    
    
    
    
    
    
    
    
    
    
    
    
    
    
    
    in the city there should be a lady that say's that she lost her child
    in the woods and could you find him. her son is somewhere down at the
    bottom of the swamp scene. when you find him and bring him back she
    will give you something that you will need to call up a monster and
    fight him.
    also, the people will start to talk to you after you bring the boy back
    or after you beat the monster one or the other
498.14Am I missing something??DELREY::UCCI_SADon't bunt. Aim out of the ballpark!Thu Aug 30 1990 17:126
    Thanx.....
    
    I'll try again tonight.  I was sure I talked with EVERYONE and they
    all said the same thing, NOTHING!!  Do you remember if you got the
    second sword before going into the Swamp?  I haven't found much in
    this second section except the statue and the gas mask.
498.15Have some patience!WMOIS::DIPASQUALE_MThu Aug 30 1990 17:385
    I don't think so, all I remember is getting the gas mask and going
    right into the swamp. After that things started to happen. This game
    really makes you think doesn't it.  Just wait until you get further
    along, you have to use every off the wall trick you can to get where
    your going.
498.16the OAK peoplePEAKS::RIVERASat Sep 01 1990 23:4819
   You are missing a little something, or at least it didnt start working
   for me until I got this extra thing, spoiler follows the <FF>. 
   
   I have a question, I got the boy back, and got the reward and my next
   task, but I dont know where to use this new item, I know it is suppose
   to be in the swamp, but I think I have tried everywhere, am I missing
   something.
   
   						Peter
   
   To be able to understand the OAK people:
   
   You need to go back north to a little hut that use to have some man
   who pointed you to the town south/west of the cave.  After running
   around for a while and visiting him, I finally got to a high enough
   level (either 5th or 6th) so that when I went to visit him there were
   two people there instead of one.  He gives you a task, and when you
   finish he gives you something, after this you will want to go visit
   the little people, at this time I was able to understand them.
498.17More OAK peoplePEAKS::RIVERASun Sep 02 1990 00:4620
   Concerning my last note and the OAK people.
   
   Spoiler follows
   
   
   I may have been wrong about needing to go to the cabin in the north,
   but if that is the case then it really is a matter of getting up to
   at least level 6, because I couldnt understand them for quite a while.
   I might be wrong because the little folks tell me about the cabin
   after I accomplish the second task that they give me, and so I might
   have done something slightly out of order, not that it really matters.
   
   Spoiler follows on the second task that the OAK people ask you to
   perform.
   
   
   Concerning the location in the swamp where I had to use the flute, the
   location is obvious, what is not obvious is you need to be right up
   against the edge of the darkness before using the flute, otherwise
   nothing will happen.
498.18DELREY::UCCI_SADon't bunt. Aim out of the ballpark!Tue Sep 04 1990 16:5810
    Stuck again!!
    I finally made it through the ice maze and am now in the town of
    Porta (where the Queen lives and you can get a boat).  I've wandered
    the entire area and did the cave behind the waterfall.  I have found
    NOTHING!  Where do I get the FLUTE I need?  Anybody remember where
    anything is in this area??
    
    Help
    
    Sandie
498.19there's always a wayDUGGAN::WILLINGERTue Sep 04 1990 18:196
    <question behind FF>
    Have you found the sick dolphin in the underground river?
    <if not:>
    Have you gone through the back door in the Queen's chamber?
    <if you have:>
    Find something that can cure the dolphin -they're alot like people.
498.20Invisible Door??DELREY::UCCI_SADon't bunt. Aim out of the ballpark!Tue Sep 04 1990 20:5010
    Re:  -1
    
    The door in the Queen's chamber has a guard in front of it.  How do I
    get through that door?  Everytime I enter, the queen is always on the
    throne.  I thought she was supposed to leave occasionally?
    
    How do I get rid of the guard or is there an invisible door I'm 
    missing??
    
    Sandie
498.21BIG SPOILER FOR THE QUEENWMOIS::DIPASQUALE_MWed Sep 05 1990 16:0421
    Here is a clue to get past the queens chamber.
    <<major spoiler>>
    
    
    
    
    
    
    
    
    
    
    
    
    
    
     right when you walk into the castle don't go forward but position
    yourself in a dirrect line with the lady that will block your way in to
    see the queen and use something to put her to sleep. then just walk on
    in.  of course make sure you don't go to the fortune teller before you
    go.
498.22Description PleaseSUBWAY::JOSBACHERMon Sep 10 1990 14:4810
    The first note indicated that Crystalis is like Link and Zelda.  I've
    had little exposure to them, so I don't know their nature (other than
    that Link has to gun down or slay assorted baddies).  I've been told
    Crystalis is "more of an Adventure"game.  How is it the same/different
    from Final Fantasy?  I haven't looked at any of the replies above to
    avoid spoilers.
    
    Thanks for any input,
    
    Frank
498.23SPOILER PLEASEPOETS::SCHNARECHARLIE SCHNARETue Sep 11 1990 10:274
    I need a major spoiler on how to get the spell of flight.
    
    /mike
    
498.24from what point?DUGGAN::WILLINGERTue Sep 11 1990 21:356
    Do you have the Ball of Thunder?
    
    Have you been through Goa Castle?
    
    Where are you at?
    
498.25POETS::SCHNARECHARLIE SCHNARETue Sep 11 1990 23:242
    I am doing this for a friend who does have the ball of thunder and has
    been through The Castle.
498.26stuck in PortaPNO::RAINESusan RaineWed Sep 12 1990 16:2417
    Minor to mild spoiler would be appreciated.  I have been wandering
    around outside Porta for the last few days.  I believe that I need to
    use the boat to continue - but I cannot find what the father lost.
    I am assuming that that is what I need to get the boat.  I am at
    level 13, have the sword of ice, water ball and the blizzard bracelet.
    Other info behind form feed in case it might be a spoiler.
    
    I have cured the dolphin, wandered behind the waterfall, and explored
    the 2 caves to the east and the south.  There are several areas that
    appear to be blocked by a steel wall.  I have made ice bridges over
    everyplace that I could find. I got the object or spell (cannot remember
    which) from the "Neptune"-like character.  I also returned to Amazone and
    got the item from behind  the queen.
    
    Please - what am I missing or where did I go wrong?
    
    
498.27lost in the fog?DUGGAN::WILLINGERWed Sep 12 1990 18:1513
    re:-1
    
    <spoiler>
    The cave to the NE contains the item necessary to get the boat (the
    Lamp of Fog)
    
    re:-2
    <spoiler>
     Hard to remember the exact sequence, but I think that 
    after you've defeated the 3 or 4 main bad guys in Goa Castle, there
    is another bull-headed iron wall in the castle north of Shyron (if it's
    not there, it's in one of the mountain caves) that you have to break 
    through.  Sooner or later, Kensu gives you the Flight Magic.
498.28More help neededDELREY::UCCI_SADon't bunt. Aim out of the ballpark!Thu Sep 13 1990 17:5312
    Help, please.
    
    Finally got the boat and found Town of Joel.  Got lots of clues there.
    Went on to explore the cave by the Medusa and am pretty sure I found
    everything I need.  In Joel, I was told the evil town was to the West.
    Can't find it!  I also can't find a way to get to the windmill.  Also
    found a house on an island but I can't get into it.  I still haven't
    found the Uncle.
    
    Any help will be appreciated.  Major spoilers welcome.
    
    Sandie
498.29explore some moreDUGGAN::WILLINGERFri Sep 14 1990 14:165
    re: -1
    
    
    Explore the Angry Sea to the west.  There is another island with a
    major cave.
498.30How to get past the checkpoint at Swan How to get past the checkpoint at Swan AV8OR::BURBICKThu Oct 04 1990 14:139
     I have been through everything (I believe) except I haven't been able to ]

the Amozon queen the Kirisa plant, but I realize I need the magic of change 
to do that. Do I need the magic of Change to get through the Checkpoint? If
so, how do I get it? I am level 13, and have everything up to the blizzard 
bracelet.

                                       Thanks,
                                       Kevin
498.31find KensuDUGGAN::WILLINGERMon Oct 08 1990 13:055
    Have you found Kensu in the town of Swan?
    <spoiler>
    He's disguised and hiding among the townsfolk.  You need to expose him
    by using some magic.
    
498.32Finding Kensu AV8OR::BURBICKMon Oct 08 1990 16:414
Yes, I found him, but when he said shoot, I tried to and he just disappeared. I
don't know where to look for him now. I think I should have given him the
Love Pendant. Do I need to start over? I assume you are talking about the guard
you paralyze in the tavern.
498.33Be persistentDUGGAN::WILLINGERWed Oct 10 1990 12:541
    That's right.  He's still in town.  Look some more.
498.34Sword of Thunder where are you!FSTTOO::HEMONDTHE AMERICAN HARPMon Oct 15 1990 19:3915
    1st. Let me say I love this game.
    2nd. I need HELP! Please somebody, anybody..
    
    I'm at level 16 and have everything up to the Sword of Thunder
    I can't find it.  I've been through Shyron & Mt. Hydra  followed
    all the routes through the caves and into the ?castle? went back 
    saw everyone in Shyron again, but still no Sword of Thunder.  My
    Power magazine said to look for it below the lava pits.  I got 
    desperate and went to the land below (desert-oasis-black guk),also
    ran right back.  Can someone help I'd keep at it myself only this
    is a rental and I'm also getting very discouraged.
    
    Thanks in advance for any assistance
    
    Nance (who plays adventure/RPG games only)
498.35try againDUGGAN::WILLINGERTue Oct 16 1990 21:048
    
    <spoiler>
    It's in Mt.Hydra 
    
    <specific spoiler>
    
    - check your Nintendo Power map
    - it's the big red star that you don't need flight to reach
498.36Stuck up in the airPNO::RAINESusan RaineWed Oct 17 1990 21:4314
    Spoilers needed please.
    
    	I finally reached the floating tower, but now I am stuck.  I cannot
    return back and I cannot find the way forward.  There appear to be
    two doors but I cann't pass thru them, I have tried killing everything in
    sight - with no detectable effect - PLEASE what am I missing here?
    
    	My sister is also playing the game - she has killed the second
    "emperor" in the second cave in the desert and is stuck at the third
    "emperor".  I believe she needs the power ring - She hasn't found either
    the power or the warrior rings.  I cannot help because I never found the
    warrior ring and have forgotten where I found the power ring.  Hints or
    spoilers would be very welcome.    Thanks
    
498.37persistDUGGAN::WILLINGERThu Oct 18 1990 14:315
    <spoiler>
    You have to kill EVERY robot (the flying one keeps coming back to be
    annoying) before a stairway to the next level appears.
    
    Matt
498.38Spoiler Needed Thunder SwordSANFAN::DUXALThu Oct 18 1990 22:474
    Love this game -- However I am stuck -- can't get find the ball
    that powers up the thunder sword.  Haven't gotten Flight yet and
    I believe it is needed to get across lava to get to treasure chests.
    Need spoiler...
498.39UPWARD::RAINESusan RaineFri Oct 19 1990 15:552
I believe you need the flight spell to get what you want - take a look at
reply 27
498.40the wrath of DraygonDUGGAN::WILLINGERMon Oct 22 1990 15:058
    You will need Flight magic, but not for the Ball of Thunder.  You'll
    probably kick yourself if you read the spoiler before exploring more,
    but to get the Ball of Thunder do the following:
    
    <spoiler>
    Enter Goa castle.  Go as far as you can.  You should receive a message
    telling you what to do next.
    
498.41Help in caves South of GoaASABET::RUUSKATue Oct 23 1990 15:2913
    South of Goa in the Lava Swamp(??),there are two caves.The one on the
    right is blocked by whirlpool's.My son tells me I need Flight to get
    into that one.The cave on the left I've gone into but I can't find any
    thing worth while in it.Is there anything in this cave or am I just
    wasting my time in there? I think I found a metal wall in this cave but
    that was late last Friday night before I had the Thunder Sword and the
    Ball of Thunder.I spent a good couple of hour's running around in there
    looking for that metal wall again but I've had no luck what so ever in
    finding it.If someone will just let me know that there is something in
    there I'll keep looking.
      
    Thank's,
    Paul
498.42re:.-1 Yes. There's something in there.DUGGAN::WILLINGERWed Oct 24 1990 18:591
    
498.43Lost in the IceMORO::MAPPS_RIE.I.S. Training - IVOFri Nov 02 1990 16:0910
    This is depressing - so lost so early in the game. I am wandering in
    the ice cave, and not fairing too well. I have found (?- can't remember
    name), and he tells me before he can give me more magic I must find the
    tornado bracelet. I have wandered and wandered. At some point I come
    out of a cave, slide down an ice shute, and pass under a bridge - but I
    can't get back up. I think it has something to do with the rabbit
    boots, which I have - but can't jump no matter what I do. I'm getting
    totally frustrated - any spoilers will be welcome so that I can move
    on.
    Thanks, Rich
498.44How to use itemsPNO::RAINESusan RaineMon Nov 05 1990 14:485
I went thru the same thing.  The book never explained this one.  The items
are controlled by the same button as magic and magic takes precedence.  To use
an item, you must "unselect" the magic/spell you currently have "selected".

Hope this helps....Susan
498.45Correction on how to use itemsPNO::RAINESusan RaineMon Nov 05 1990 14:564
re. -.1
    Correction - this is true only for items you must actively use like the
    rabbit boots.  There are other items that work just because you have
    selected them.
498.46Still Stuck after all these years..SANFAN::DUXALMon Nov 05 1990 20:0411
    I must be missing something to get the ball of thunder.  I have been to
    the Castle at GOA I stop at the Iron Wall with bull head and it tells
    me to return to Shyron it's under attack.  Well it's not under attack.
    The only clue I get is one of the characters lost its family on the way
    to Shyron.  I haven't been able to locate his family in Mt. Hydra or
    other places I've tried.  I think I have search Mt. Hydra fairly well,
    do not have Power Map. - - - Still cannot locate ball of Thunder or het
    across poison to treasure chests or acrss chasm to treasure chest.
    I only play for a few hours a week , so with my terminal case of CRS, I
    am missing something....Help please or I trash this game and go on to
    the next.
498.47*Y^&^%$%#& NEVERMINDSANFAN::DUXALMon Nov 12 1990 17:062
    NEVER MIND...I finally teleported to where the message said to go
    rather than walking and my answer was there.
498.48Help Help Help[POETS::SCHNARECHARLIE SCHNARETue Nov 13 1990 22:222
    I need a major spoiler on were the warriors ring is I have searched
    everywhere twice and still cannot seem to find it.
498.49re:-.1 You have to win it!21752::WILLINGERWed Nov 14 1990 16:231
    
498.50help wantedRIPPLE::GRANT_JOfish/center/douglasFri Nov 16 1990 19:4327
    I am definitely stumped on this one.
    
    If you read .9 here that's about the situation I'm in.  The
    responses to Sandie's plight didn't get through my thick
    skull, as they make no sense to me.  
    
    My situation:
    
    (no spoiler since this is all in the instructions)
    I've got the gas mask and the rabbit boots, the first sword,
    the first power ball, restore and telepathy spells, have
    been through swamp and found the city where everyone says
    "go in peace."  Someone said that there was someone in
    that town that will speak to you.
    
    Ok - where is that someone?  The town seems pretty small and
    simple to me and I find no one.  Is there another town in
    this area that I have perhaps missed?  I can't find anyting
    in the poison swamp and it seems like I've search every
    nook and cranny - again, it's not a very large or complex
    maze.
    
    Basically, I am getting nowwhere.  Any chance that anyone
    out there will be able to help? 
    
    Joel
    
498.51HelpSUBSYS::SCHNARECHARLIE SCHNARESun Nov 18 1990 22:144
    I am stuck. I have been through Goa Castle and have defeated the finest
    four. I have got flight and I have the thunder sword with the storm
    bracelet. Right now I am trying to figure out where to use flight. I
    have been all ovber the place. Also I have not found the warriors ring.
498.52Mostly you'll knowMORO::MAPPS_RIE.I.S. Training - IVOMon Nov 26 1990 16:365
    RE .-1 you will need flight in the desert, and to recover one critical
    item in Mt. Hudra, (there is a path in the cave system which brings you
    to a place where you can see something you can't get - there is a void
    you can't cross - that's the first place, in the desert it becomes
    obvious when the time comes.
498.53JARETH::EDPAlways mount a scratch monkey.Tue Nov 27 1990 00:018
    I'd like to add my recommendation for this game.  There are a couple of
    rough spots here and there, but it is one of the more original
    role-playing games on the market.  New players should be warned that
    they need to "deselect" their magic in order to use things like the
    Rabbit Boots.  The magic of telepathy is cute.
    
    
    				-- edp
498.54thumbs up!RIPPLE::GRANT_JOgouty fingers nakkeringTue Nov 27 1990 13:2410
    re: .53
    
    Yes, there are definitely a couple of rough spots - but the
    game, on the whole, is excellent.  I recommend it very
    highly and consider it to be the best RPG game I've played.
    
    Would make a great little Christmas gift...
    
    Joel
    
498.55DELREY::UCCI_SADon't bunt. Aim out of the ballpark!Tue Nov 27 1990 17:067
    Re:  -1
    
    Joel,
    
    Is the "Christmas gift" part a little hint????  ;^)
    
    Sandie
498.56answers 'r usRIPPLE::GRANT_JOgouty fingers nakkeringTue Nov 27 1990 18:5812
    re: .55
    
    Got me!  Sandie's referring to the fact that I have borrowed
    the game from her.
    
    But never fear - I've finished it already and am almost
    finished the second time around.  (same quest, not like
    Zelda)  I'll be more than happy to answer anyone's questions,
    if I can.  (memory fades, and I _am_ getting older)
    
    Joel
    
498.57I agreeMORO::MAPPS_RIE.I.S. Training - IVOWed Nov 28 1990 15:336
    I'll agree that this is the best adventure game I've played - now that
    I finished it, though, If someone would tell me where you get the
    warrior ring and the psycho shield I'd be grateful, as I never could
    find them!
    Thanx
    
498.58NEED HELP WITH KENSUSALEM::SMITH_AThu Nov 29 1990 17:465
             CAN SOMEONE GIVE ME A HINT AS TO WHERE I MIGHT FIND THE 
             LOVE PENDANT THAT I MUST GIVE TO KENSU FOR THE MAGIC OF 
             CHANGE? 
    
             THANKS
498.59love pendant, psycho shield, warrior ringRIPPLE::GRANT_JOpaint quickens to fleshFri Nov 30 1990 13:2676
    re: .58
    
    
    [spoiler follows]
    
    
    
    
    
    
    
    
    
    
    
    
    
    Love pendant is in the channel behind the queen's room in
    Portoa.  Ride in on the dolphin.  As you are riding out
    you will have it.  (screen will flash telling you that
    you now have the love pendant)
    
    
    re: .57
    
    
    
    
    [spoiler follows]
    
    
    
    
    
    
    
    
    
    
    
    
    
    Warrior ring - After you beat the four monsters you meet when
    you travel through the castle behind Goa, return to Goa.
    Use the change magic and turn into Akahana.  (of the four
    characters you can choose when you use change, he is
    the one on the far right.)  Visit the man in the hut towards
    the top right of the town.  He will give you the warrior ring.
    
    
    
    [additional spoiler]
    
    
    
    
    
    
    
    
    
    
    
    psycho shield - Remember where you got the thunder sword? (the
    area near Mt. Hydra that you need the Key of Styx to get
    into)  After you get past the shooting gargoyles at the
    entrance, go right rather than left.  Beat the lady guarding
    the door and go into the lava river area.  There are several
    chests in this area but you'll need flight magic to get 
    over there.  One of the chests has the shield.
    
    
    
    
    Joel
    
498.60Feel Better NowMORO::MAPPS_RIE.I.S. Training - IVOFri Nov 30 1990 15:075
    Thanks Joel,
    Since I managed to finish without those items they're obviously not
    'required' to complete the game, but my curiosity is now satisfied.
    Regards,
    Rich
498.61it's a great game, isn't it?RIPPLE::GRANT_JOpaint quickens to fleshFri Nov 30 1990 16:5710
    re: .60
    
    Glad to help.  As you can imagine, finishing the last
    few places goes much more quickly with the psycho shield
    and the warrior ring.  Being able to rapid-fire at the
    ubiquituous monsters in the last mazes makes the game
    a little more fun, a little less tense...
    
    Joel
    
498.62NEED THE STORM BRACELETSALEM::SMITH_ASun Dec 02 1990 00:157
    I AM CURRENTLY STUCK IN THE CASTLE BEHIND THE TOWN OF GOA. I HAVE THE
    SWORD OF THUNDER AND THE BALL OF THUNDER BUT CAN'T BEAT THE MONSTER
    IN THE UPPER RIGHT HAND CORNER. I BELIEVE I NEED THE STORM BRACELET
    TO BEAT THIS MONSTER. CAN SOMEONE GIVE ME A HINT AS TO WHERE I MIGHT
    FIND THE STORM BRACELET.
    
    THANKS
498.63Tornado bracelet spoilerRIPPLE::GRANT_JOpaint quickens to fleshMon Dec 03 1990 18:3624
    re: .62
    
    
    
    
    [spoiler follows]
    
    
    
    
    
    
    
    
    
    
    Do you mean the tornado bracelet?  The one for the first
    sword?  If so, you'll find it in the Ice Caves near (I think)
    the town of Brynmaer.  Use the rabbit boots to hop up the
    second slide you come to.  Go into the far right cave and
    explore.  It's in there.
    
    Joel
    
498.65Novice noters should read thisICS::CUNNIFFTue Dec 04 1990 11:5512
    Um - please do us a favor and turn off CAPS-LOCK - we like to reserve
    uppercase for "shouting", and we shout when we want to emphasize things
    such as this:
    
    DON'T USE UPPERCASE UNLESS YOU WANT TO MEAN TO!!!
    
    look in the NOTES$SAMPLE conference, note 7.4 (on your node, or even
    ICS::NOTES$SAMPLE) for other etiquette issues.
    
    Thanks.
    
    jack
498.66Already have Tornado BraceletSALEM::SMITH_ATue Dec 04 1990 13:598
    
    
    re: .63
    
    I currently have the Thunder Sword and the Ball of Thunder. I am
    looking for the Storm Bracelet to power-up the Thunder Sword.
    
    Al
498.67Storm BraceletRIPPLE::GRANT_JOpaint quickens to fleshWed Dec 05 1990 13:5530
    re: .66
    
    
    
    
    
    
    [spoiler follows]
    
    
    
    
    
    
    
    
    
    
    Sorry for the confusion - there are so many swords and power-ups
    for swords!
    
    
    Hope you've found it already.  If not, or for others in
    the future: It's in a room behind the (I believe) third
    monster you beat when you go through Castle Goa.  This
    is perhaps the roughest part of the game - a maze, another
    maze, four monsters, another maze - it's a toughie!
    
    Joel
    
498.68Still Stuck in MazeSALEM::SMITH_AWed Dec 05 1990 14:5912
    
    
    re: 67
    
    After entering the Castle Goa, I have been through the Maze only to
    come to a monster that I cannot defeat with the Thunder Sword/Ball of
    Thunder. Everything just bounces off him. He throws(in Succession) a
    line of balls. Am I doing something wrong? Do I need something else to
    defeat him? This is why I assumed I needed the Storm Bracelet. This
    particular monster is in the upper right hand corner Maze. 
    
    Al
498.69Variety is the spice of life21752::WILLINGERWed Dec 05 1990 17:353
    <minor spoiler>
    Each bad guy is vulnerable to a different sword.  If thunder doesn't
    work (clinks) try one of the other three.
498.70RIPPLE::GRANT_JOpaint quickens to fleshThu Dec 06 1990 18:598
    re: .68, .69
    
    Yes, each monster has a different vulnerability.  You'll know
    you've got the right sword when you see him flash white after
    a hit.  For this particular one, "select" an Opel Statue!
    
    Joel
    
498.71Grave yard/Castle help......XCUSME::BUTEAUFri Jan 18 1991 13:3512
    HEEEEELLLLLp...
    
    
    
    Great, but frustrating game. I'm not sure where I'm at but I entered a
    castle with the grave yard in the front..I found one boss and and
    basically am at a stand still... I can't find anything else within the
    castle...   Any minor or major spoilers would be a great help....
    
    
    mike_b
    
498.72RIPPLE::GRANT_JOdark heaven's baffling banFri Jan 18 1991 13:436
    re: .71
    
    What items/swords/magic and so on do you have?
    
    Joel
    
498.73I think I knowMORO::MAPPS_RIE.I.S. Training - IVOFri Jan 18 1991 14:454
    It's been a couple of months, but in regard to .-2,
    
    I believe you have to leave the castle, and go back to talk to someone
    in the village by the graveyard.
498.74stuck in the grave yard!!XCUSME::BUTEAUFri Jan 18 1991 18:5730
    
    HI.....
    
    In regards to -2....
    
     I'm at level 14 and have the following items...
    
    
    Sword - wind, fire water...
    armor- platinum
    shield- sacred
    bracelet-tornado, flame, blizzard
    
    items.... Iron necklace, rabbit boots, gas mask, shield ring shell
    flute, love pendant, kirisna plant..
    
    magic-refresh, paralysis, telepathy, teleport, and recover...
    
    I hope this helps.... I killed one monster in the castle, and got a 
    plant that restore your magic... I also found someone on the upper
    level, but can't get to her. She stands on a ledge, when you het to
    closeyou fall off of the edge.  I don't know what else to do, I've
    wandered all over h__L and back incase I've missed something...
    
    
     Hope this helps...
    
    
    mike_b
    
498.75XCUSME::BUTEAUFri Jan 18 1991 19:009
    re:.73...
    
    
     I must be missing somethingI tried talking to the zombies but they say
    nothing.... This is all I get    ___
    . 
    
    mike
    
498.76RIPPLE::GRANT_JOdark heaven's baffling banFri Jan 18 1991 22:1034
    re: .75
    
    
    [spoiler]
    
    
    
    
    
    
    
    
    
    
    
    Ok, it's been a while for me, but I believe what you have to
    do is:
    
    There are two places where you go between statues and they
    "spit" laser beams at you.  Go to the one that ends with
    a gargoyle face.  When you approach it, a message will appear
    on the screen to the effect that "we are under attack,
    please help us."  Teleport over to that town immediately,
    and you'll find a boss monster in the castle in back of the
    town again.  Then, when you come out, the zombies will be
    awake again.
    
    Don't forget to talk to the guy in the basement of the house
    on the left.
    
    I think this will do it.
    
    Joel
    
498.77Stuck in limbo!!XCUSME::BUTEAUSat Jan 19 1991 02:1530
    re:-1
    
    Hi....
    
    Call me stupid... I caught a ride back to that area via dolphin...and
    went up to every statue/gargoil that I could find and nothing has
    happened.  These are the towns that Ive been to so far..
    
    1. leaf
    2.
    3.brynmaer
    4.oak
    5.nadares
    6.portoa
    7.amazones
    8.joel
    
      On the select screen when I teleport there seems to be a gap between
    leaf and brynmaer.... Is there another town that I should hav visited
    prior to brynmaer??   The statues that I found are on the lower level
    just prior to doing battle with the first monster and on the upper
    level where I ran into some guy saying that there is a sorccerer in the
    next room. When I enter the room that's where maisa is on the ledge...
    
    
                              Stuck in limbo....
    
    
    mike
    
498.78XCUSME::BUTEAUSat Jan 19 1991 16:4721
    
    I guess one tends to over look the obvious....
    
    
     Major Spoiler
    
    
    
    
    Re: The castle/grave yard...
    
     You go to the upper level when you come to the person that says that
    there is a sorcceror in the next room, just back away select the flame
    sword and the bracelet that goes with and fire him up. Hen then turns
    in to one of the monsters and that in turn restores the town of zombies
    bac to normal...
    
    
    
    mike_b
      
498.79MCIS2::DEWMon Jan 21 1991 20:385
    WHERE IS THE POWER RING?!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
    
    
    major spoiler would be accepted
    
498.80RIPPLE::GRANT_JOdark heaven's baffling banMon Jan 21 1991 21:3536
    
    
    
    
    re: .79
    
    
    
    Let me know if this works, memory fades...
    
    
    
    
    
    
    
    
    
    
    [spoiler on power bracelet]
    
    
    
    
    
    
    
    
    
    I believe you will find it in the desert maze.  Keep going 
    towards the center.  You'll enter a passage which ends with
    a statue/gargoyle face.  Defeat that and you'll get the power
    ring.
    
    Joel
    
498.81Help after losing the Love Pendant3149::JAFFEMon Feb 11 1991 20:0016
    I am stuck and hope there is still some activity in this game.
    Possible spoiler behind ff
    
    I need the love pendant to get the change magic to get the bow from the
    Amazon chief. I remeber riding the dolphin into the cave for Portal and
    then getting the pendant and the magic, but failed to save the game at
    that point. I guess I got killed and forgot about it.
    Anyway, I can't seem to get it back!! Can one finish the game without
    these items? If not, any suggestions as to how or what happened and how
    I can correct it?
    
    I did get the bracelet from the Amazones house, and found and defeated
    the boss in the Evil Island cave. 
    
    Joel
    
498.82in re: love pendantRIPPLE::GRANT_JOplanet-ducted pelicanMon Feb 11 1991 22:5113
    re: .81
    
    You might try doing the paralysis magic again in the
    two taverns.  If you got the love pendant once, you know
    what I'm talking about.
    
    If there is no way to get the love pendant/change magic,
    you cannot finish the game.  But I imagine that if you
    find the guy again (in both taverns) and then go back,
    the love pendant will again be there.
    
    Joel
    
498.83More help for pendantSTRAIT::WALTONStay low on the food chain.Tue Feb 12 1991 18:0933
   Re: 81

   Love Pendant Spoiler:




















    To get the pendant you need to swim over it on the dolphin, which means
    you may have to swim around a bit to find it since you can't see it.  It
    is in the first part of the stream when you swim into the cave.  I
    was a little frustrated when I was looking for it, thinking that it would 
    appear when I had accomplished something.  As it turned out I had just
    not swam over the right spot.  


                                            - Dave
498.84help need to dust 2nd emperor3149::JAFFEMon Feb 18 1991 16:2110
    Can some one help me defeat the 2nd Emperor. I defeated the 1st easily,
    used my 2 bows (sun and moon) to gain access to the 2nd area, and used
    the 3rd bow to reveil the true image of Emperor 2. There is were my
    success ends. I have emptied 5 magic rings and 2 statutes blasting him
    with fully loaded thunder sword, but he just laughs at me and does me 
    in after several minutes.  There has got to be some trick or item that
    I am missing.
    
    Appreciate any and all help.
    Joel
498.85help with getting flightDCSVAX::STJEANMon Feb 18 1991 17:547
    
    
    I need help......... How do I get flight? I went into Goa
    and defeated all 4 monsters, I have sword of thunder and ball
    of thunder. Whats next
    
    Jim
498.86Help on flight re: -13149::JAFFEMon Feb 18 1991 18:0515
    Jim,
    You must be right behind me in solution. I don't remember flight as
    being a big deal. I'll put what I remember behind ff.
    
    Didn't someone say to go back to some city? I remember getting the
    Warrior ring from someone in GOA after changing into the last character
    on the right of the screen. My suggestion is to back to the last few
    towns and try talking to people. The guy in the guard house that the
    boat brings you to, the guys in the city with all the tombstones and so
    on. You need flight very badly. You can't get any further without the
    ability to fly over the lava swamp whirlpools.
    
    Hope this helps, sorry I don't keep records of what I do, and have a
    mind like a seive.
    Good luck
498.87Bad advice given 1st time this is right3149::JAFFETue Feb 19 1991 12:0712
    Sorry but I gave you bad advice. I remembered whaqt I did to get flight
    on the way home yesterday. I'll put the correct solution behind ff
    
    After doing the last bad guy (4th) in in GOA castle, he gives you the
    statute of Ivory. If your menu does not show this statute, go back and
    defeat him again. After defeating him, you must give this statute to
    Kensu. He is located near the last bad guy. He will tell you that he
    has been transformed into a little monster (one of those blue
    thingies). When you give him the statute, he transforms back inot Kensu
    and gives you flight.
    
    Sorry for the bad advice first time.
498.88ROCK::GRONOWSKIthe dream is always the same...Thu Apr 18 1991 11:188
    
    I just finished this game a couple of days ago.  I thought it was
    the best game of its type that I played (better than Link, Zelda, 
    Final Fantasy, Castlevania II).  
    
    The question is now, what game do I go on to next... any suggestions?
    
    Was Willow similar to this game?
498.89RIPPLE::GRANT_JOlifted waters walk and leapThu Apr 18 1991 13:3616
    re: .88
    
    My suggestion: Destiny of an Emperor.  Or Wizardry.
    
    Haven't finished "Destiny" yet but so far I find it superior
    to any of the games you mentioned.  Ultima and Dragon Warrior
    are also wonderful.  I haven't played either of the sequels
    to Ultima or DW, but judging from what I've read in here,
    DWII sounds pretty good.
    
    Shadowgate is a classic.  I intend to get Dejavu when I can
    scrape up a few extra bucks - I hear it's much like Shadowgate
    and perhaps even a tad tougher...
    
    Joel
    
498.90Need to find IRON Necklace, last BOW!DEMSUP::BROUILLETLinda - What a wonderful WORLD this is!Thu Apr 18 1991 23:1727
Hi, I need help desparately... I'm at level 16, unfortunately I saved the 
game after I used the statues... so...

I have all the magic spells, up to the psycho sheild, the 4 swords, but I 
need to get the STORM BRACELET and I'll use the help from the other notes 
as I guess I didn't explore enough in GOA Castle.  I've visited all the 
towns (11 total) gone thru the cave in the east and flew over the "lava" 
into what I guess is the desert maze, after wandering around all I find is 
DRAGONIA - I think, anyway I can't seem to put a dent in him so I know that 
I need the STORM BRACELET and probably the POWER Ring (don't have that 
either) what I need is directions to where the IRON Necklace is as I never 
found that and I didn't see anyone ask for it.  I must have missed it 
somewhere along the way, and oh I have two of the bows where do I find the 
3rd one or is that after DRAGONIA.

Just a teeny, tiney, BIG spoiler would help.... THANKS MUCH!

This is better then WILLOW, but WILLOW is a great game, I loved SHADOWGATE 
and like -2 when I have a few "extra" pennies I want to get Dejavue(sp?)

Anyway, thanks for any help that you can give me, I'm one of those that 
only gets the chance to play 1-2 hours a couple of nights a week, 
sometimes, if I'm lucky, I'll play most of Sunday afternoon.

Again, thanks,

Linda
498.91ROCK::GRONOWSKIthe dream is always the same...Fri Apr 19 1991 12:1016
    
    
    I'll have to think about where I found the STORM BRACELET and the IRON
    Necklace.  
    
    Spoiler on the POWER Ring follows:
    
    
    
    To find the power ring, go south from Goa.  You will find the a passage
    to go underground.  The power ring is in there.  You need to defeat 
    and iron statue that shoots stuff at you... but I think you might need
    the STORM BRACELET to defeat it... not sure...  If you have FLIGHT,
    that will help.  
    
    Paul
498.92BAGELS::MATSISIt aint over till all the snow melts!Mon Apr 22 1991 12:4515
    Hi Linda
    
    Which Bow are you missing?
    
    spoiler after FF.
    
    
    
    I finally found the Bow of Sun.  It is in one of the mazes in Mt.
    Hydra.   You'll need to knock down some walls with the sword of wind
    and will then need flight magic.
    
    I believe I got the Bow of Moon from the queen in the Amazones village.
    
    Pam
498.93comparison with Zelda and UltimaSARAH::POLLOCKProgrammers expect the unexpected!Mon Apr 22 1991 18:306
    In Crystalis, are you able to actually fight like in Zelda, or do you 
    just give commands like in Ultima?
    
    Thanks,
    Paula
    
498.94BAGELS::MATSISIt aint over till all the snow melts!Mon Apr 22 1991 19:297
    Hi Paula
    
    You do actually fight like in Zelda.  The command type RPGs bore me.
    Crystalis is EXCELLENT and I definitely recommend it.  Better then
    Link and MUCH better than Zelda IMO.   
    
    Pam
498.95BOW of TRUTH and POWER RING Needed!DEMSUP::BROUILLETLinda - What a wonderful WORLD this is!Mon Apr 22 1991 23:3316
Re: -3   I finally got the STORM BRACELET, but can't find the argyle statue 
that shots I've found 3 passages South of GOA, I found the leather boots, a 
magic ring, and the Battle Suit in one passage, this is the passage that 
you come out in when you get your FLIGHT magic from Kensu...  Pam, I have 
the BOW of SUN and the BOW of MOON, what I need is the POWER RING, IRON 
NECKLACE and the BOW of TRUTH, I guess.  I've walked the desert maze, in 
circles and the only place that I come to to defeat anyone is Dragonia, 
maybe I need to go in the third place that I got killed in the first time I 
went in, but I didn't have the STORM BRACELET at the time, I'll keep 
trying.  This is the best game I've done, although I haven't done that 
many, I've done ZELDA, Legend of Link (never finished that one, but one of 
these days I'll start over), WILLOW, DRAGON WARRIER I, SHADOWGATE.  For the 
person that asked if this was like SHADOWGATE, no, this is more action 
oriented... lots of fun...

L
498.96BAGELS::MATSISIt aint over till all the snow melts!Tue Apr 23 1991 12:2523
    Hi Linda
    
    I'll have to check tonight to see where if found the iron necklace and
    the Bow of Truth.
    
    I found the Power Bracelet last night.
    
    Spoiler after FF.
    
    
    
    The Power Ring is in the Maze where you found the Battle Suit.  I was
    looking for a hidden cave, but there is no hidden cave.  This is the
    only one.  Go in the normal entrance (not the back way where you came
    in after getting FLIGHT magic from Kensu).  When you enter, take a 
    right (if you went straight, this is where you used to see the two
    treasure chests that you couldn't get to, across a channel of water).
    Keep heading for the center of the maze.  You'll come up to a steel
    wall/gargoyle thingie that shoots fire.  Defeat this and the Power
    Bracelet is behind it.  Using FLIGHT is the quickest way.  I was able
    to find it in 30 seconds, once I knew I was in the right maze.
    
    Pam
498.97Found PR-How do I kill Dragonia any HINTS?DEMSUP::BROUILLETLinda - What a wonderful WORLD this is!Tue Apr 23 1991 23:0918
Re -1  Hi Pam, you must be just ahead of me, I finally found the POWER 
RING, but I think the WARRIER RING is more powerful, unless I'm using it 
wrong.  I'm in the Pyramid and I keep finding Dragonia and he keeps killing 
me, have you defeated him as yet?  If so what's the secret.  I have all the 
swords and I use the THUNDER SWORD at full power and he still kills me, I 
used up 4 magic rings in the process, thank goodness I saved after buying 
these rings or I'd be always buying rings...  The maze where the POWER RING 
was located was the trickiest one yet, it seemed like I covered it 100 
times or at least I thought I had covered every bit of it and then all of a 
sudden there was the opening stairs and I found the gargoyle, he was easy 
to kill off, and then of course the other two gargoyle's that lead to the 
TOWER, but I guess I have to work at killing Dragonia to find Mesia to get 
the BOW of TRUTH or what ever... anyway thanks for your help.

This game is fun, but I want to finish it if possible before next Monday as 
I am leaving for Florida and would like to get it over with...

Linda
498.98BAGELS::MATSISIt aint over till all the snow melts!Wed Apr 24 1991 12:4036
    Hi Linda
    
    I just defeated Dragonia last night and finished the game.  What a
    SUPER SUPER good game.  I think this is the best that I have ever
    played.
    
    Are you talking about the 2nd emperor or Dragonia?   I believe you are
    talking about the 2nd emperor.  The one right after you killed the 
    two statues with the two bows.  
    
    spoiler follows FF.
    
    
    
    
    If it is the 2nd Emperor, you can't do it without the Bow of Truth.
    You should already have this before you enter the pyramid.  I tried
    to figure out where I found this Bow, but can't remember.  Maybe
    someone else in here can help you out.  I'll look again.
    
    The night before last, I tried to kill the 2nd emperor, using the power
    ring.  After about 15 minutes of solid hits on him, he left the room.
    I could still hear him shooting but couldn't get out of this room.
    I finally reset the game.  I came back and used the Bow of Truth on
    him.   He changed form and I was able to defeat him.  You then end up
    meeting Mesia and meeting Dragonia.  He was easy to defeat.
    
    I defeated the 2nd emperor without any magic rings.  I did use the 
    ivory statue that is located in the pyramid though.  After I defeated
    him.  I used DEO's pendant to build up my magic again.
    
    Soooo, without the Bow of Truth, you will never be able to kill the 
    2nd emperor.  I wrote down where I found everything except for the
    Bow of Truth.  Sorry.
    
    Pam
498.99"BOW of TRUTH ANYONE??? - Thanks!DEMSUP::BROUILLETLinda - What a wonderful WORLD this is!Wed Apr 24 1991 16:1421
RE: -1

Pam, I'm talking about the big pyramid as you come out of the cave from the 
town of Sahara... a very complicated maze, I only found one place that I 
have to defeat Dragonia - this is probably the first emperor. And possibly  
after defeating him I'll get or meet Messina again and get the Bow of 
Truth, I tried to use both bows on the two gargoyles in the upper pyramid 
but I couldn't select both of them, when I selected the second bow the 
first one would unselect.

Anyway, your right this is by far the best game I have done.  I look 
forward to going home and getting supper and dishes out of the way so that 
I can sit down and do the game.  My boyfriend thinks I'm nuts, he's 
probably right.

I'll keep trying, don't know where else the Bow of Truth might be at this 
point.



Linda
498.100FOUND THE BOW of TRUTH and IRON NECKLACE-ThanksDEMSUP::BROUILLETLinda - What a wonderful WORLD this is!Thu Apr 25 1991 12:4814
Re: -1,-3

Just to let you know, I finally defeated the first emperor in the large 
MAZE, got the PSYCHO SHEILD a second time, and got the BOW of TRUTH, went 
to Sahara and SAVED, didn't want to have to go to it again... I then went 
and defeated the two gargoyle statues and then promptly got killed when I 
started in the area behind, only because I wasn't prepared so I stopped the 
game as I wanted to watch the Country Award show... I'll get back to it 
tonight or tomorrow night.  Oh, and I found the IRON NECKLACE in one of the 
earlier caves.  I just backtracked in all the caves until I found it... 
it's amazing what you can do when you find all the objects... I LOVE THIS 
GAME.

L
498.101What do I do in the TOWER ROOM?DEMSUP::BROUILLETLinda - What a wonderful WORLD this is!Thu Apr 25 1991 23:4619
Re: -2?  

It's me again, I defeated the 2nd emperor and was led to the tower room, 
now I'm really stuck.  I keep killing all the things that fly and come at 
me, but I can't seem to go into the two rooms (I think they are rooms off 
this level, and I can't use any magic except REFRESH and FLIGHT, but I 
can't fly anywhere - where do I go?  Anybody have a clue?  This might have 
been the wrong thing to do, but I saved the game in the TOWER room.  I hope 
that I didn't mess things up.

I want to finish this off, defeating the EMPEROR after he showed his true 
form wasn't too bad, used up all my magic rings though.

All helpful hints and downright directions would be greatly appreciated...

Again, THANKS

Linda

498.102in re: Tower RoomRIPPLE::GRANT_JOlifted waters walk and leapFri Apr 26 1991 14:5730
    re: .101
    
    
    
    [spoiler follows]
    
    
    
    
    
    
    
    
    
    
    
    
    
    This area is tough 'til you get the hang of it.
    
    What you have to do is kill absolutely everything on the screen,
    including the robot-like guys that come out of the doors.
    When you do this, a stairway will open up to the next level -
    it will look sort of like a waterfall.  There are three or
    four levels.
    
    After this - you have to fight the MAIN dude!
    
    Joel
    
498.103Castle of Goa help neededASDS::SEGERthis space intentionally left blankFri May 31 1991 23:577
My friend is stuck in the Fortress of Goa.  He needs to find the Finest Four.
Reply here, or send mail to MJS1::JUSTIN.

-justin-

Thanks in advance.

498.104How to get past the checkpoint at SwanRAGS::KUSCHERKenTue Jun 18 1991 10:548

I have the magic of change.  Before I got this I tried to get past the checkpoint
at Swan and was attacked and I fought back and killed the Guards.  Now that I have
the Magic of change and I go to the checkpoint there are no guards there and I can't
get through the door.  Help how do you get past these doors?

Ken
498.105guards spoilerRIPPLE::GRANT_JOsplitting oyster vowelsTue Jun 18 1991 22:5123
    re: .104
    
    
    [spoiler follows]
    
    
    
    
    
    
    
    
    
    
    
    
    I believe if you save the game and go back the guards will be
    there.  Use the change magic to turn into a guard.  The guards
    will open the doors for you.  Thereafter the guards will be
    gone and the doors will be open.
    
    Joel
    
498.106still no guardsRAGS::KUSCHERKenWed Jun 19 1991 11:5210

    This I did and the guards are not there.  I called the Hot line
    and they said to try walking back to Leaf and then back to Swam
    and the Gurads may come back.  They were not sure if this would
    work.  I tried this and it didn't.  The only alternative was to 
    use the special teleport feature and warp past the gate, which 
    I did.  This got me to the other side but even from there I can't
    get the gate open and there are no guards.  It was that or start
    over.  
498.107Blizzard Bracelet?ELWOOD::BELANGERMon Sep 09 1991 14:3612
    
    Can someone help me find the blizzard bracelet?
    
    I am at level 10.  I have completed the town of Portoa.  I have
    taken a ride on the dolphin and found Joel.  I have been to Amazone
    briefly.
    
    I suspect that I missed a major monster somewhere in Portoa, but I 
    just have run out of ideas.  
    
    /jeff
    
498.108try thisRAYBOK::COOPEROne-ton Tomato !Mon Sep 09 1991 19:048
    Jeff,
      I'm kind of vague on where I found the blizzard bracelet as I
    am now at level 15 and have been runnin in circles for about 5 days
    now. Did you cross the river twice and explore caves while in the
    Portoa area ? I know that you find it before you leave Portoa on
    the boat. Sorry I couldn't be more specific with an outright spoiler.
    
    Jim C.
498.109That's what I thoughtELWOOD::BELANGERMon Sep 09 1991 19:158
    
    
    Yeah, I found a lamp in one and a plant at the end of the other.I have
    spent two days stumbling around both caves with no luck.  Did you have
    to fight a creature?  Was it in a treasure box?  Was it possibly in 
    the town of Amazones?
    
    /jeff 
498.110 HELP !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!RAYBOK::COOPEROne-ton Tomato !Mon Sep 09 1991 19:2816
    I need  help !!!!!!!!!!!!!  Currently at level 15, have three swords 
    and their power-ups but can't find the Sword of Thunder. I know that
    I am missing something obvious but can't spot it. I have killed one
    monster in Goa castle but now I can't find anything other than a
    wall that has an embossed head on it that spits fire at me. Supposedly
    there is another steel wall somewhere in Goa that speaks to me ??
    Also when exploring the the cave in the poison swamp to the south
    of Goa I find another steel wall with fire-spitting head. I suspect
    that I need the thunder sword to have any effect on these walls.
    About Mt. Hydra, when going s-w from Goa I find a cave that branches
    a couple of times, stops at lava flows, a couple of lava creatures ?
    attack me but there is nowhere else to go.Have I really found Mt. Hydra
    or just wasting my time. So far the game has flowed smoothly, this is
    the first time I have been really stuck. Thanks for any help !!!
    
    Jim C.
498.111anothe hintRAYBOK::COOPEROne-ton Tomato !Mon Sep 09 1991 19:453
    Jeff,
      Did you go down the stairs in the corner of the Queens chamber ?
    
498.112Is it that obvious?ELWOOD::BELANGERMon Sep 09 1991 19:557
    Jim,
    
    	No I don't remember seeing any stairs there.  Thanx, I'll
    look tonight.
    
    /jeff
    
498.113Stuck in Portoa without a paddleAIDEV::SPERRYThu Sep 19 1991 17:1016
    I just picked this game up at Toys are US for $16, one of the benefits
    of Super NES being out I guess.  The kids and I have made it to the
    town of Portoa and are stuck.  We have everything we are supposed to I
    think to get to Portoa.
    
       In the cave under the waterfall we can get to the two petrified
    people but can't free them with either the Lysis Plant or the other
    plant that was for sale in the store.  Seems like we need the flute of
    the lime tree.  We have been over every square inch of the areas around
    Portoa without coming across it or the fog lamp or anything else of
    use.  There is an underground river but every time we enter we get
    blown back before we can paralyze or fight the Neptune guy.  We have
    gotten into the room behind the queen's chamber, but can find nothing.
    We don't have the water sword and can't cross streams.  I read an
    allusion to a sick dolphin in these notes, but we never found one. 
    Anyone still remember anything about what to do next?
498.114To find water sword !!RAYBOK::COOPEROne-ton Tomato !Thu Sep 19 1991 20:0313
       The "sick" dolphin comes into play after you get the water
    sword. You need the water sword to continue so here is a spoiler;
    
     You get the water sword from the people of Oak. They have some tasks
    that need to be completed and then they give you the sword. Once you
    have the sword and the "ball of water" you will be able to cross the
    rivers in and around Portoa to find the other things (like lime flute)
    that you need to continue. The game won't let you get to far ahead
    or out of sequence before becoming stuck. It happened to me three or
    four times during the game. Usually something obvious that I had
    overlooked though !!!!! Good luck, it is a really fun game.
    
    Jim C.
498.115Just bought it.AIMTEC::WARRENS_RKill Capital Punishment!Mon Oct 07 1991 15:486
    Just bought this for under $12.00 at PACE Warehouse. Nice game. I am
    only at the location of reply 9 except I haven't found the swamp yet.
    
    These notes make this game sound quite fun.
    
    Randy
498.116an answer and a question.AIMTEC::WARRENS_RKill Capital Punishment!Thu Oct 10 1991 15:0814
    RE: .16
    
    
    The level you need is..
    
                           7, at least I needed it.
    spoiler question follows...
    
    I got the new sword but my wind sword was only at level two. i believe
    that it is capable of going to level 3 with a bracelet. Should I have
    found it by now?
    
    Thanks
    randy
498.117WMOIS::LEWIS_BWed Oct 23 1991 09:549
    Is anyone else still playing this game?  I'm stuck in the 2nd
    area.  A couple of questions:  Where is the Amazones village?
    Is it in the 2nd area?  Also, what level is required to climb
    up to Mt. Hydra(?)?  I'm currently at level 11 and it keeps
    telling me I don't have enough power to climb.  Any help would
    be appreciated.
    
    
    Bob
498.118Try thisRAYBOK::COOPEROne-ton Tomato !Wed Oct 23 1991 13:5410
    spoiler for Amazones village:
    
    
    You have to go south from Porta and then explore along the east side.
    Cross the river and go south again and you should find the town you
    are searching for. I don't remember what level I was at when access
    to MT hydra was allowed. There are losts of chances to explore the
    mountain from another entrance though !!
    
    Jim C.
498.119WMOIS::LEWIS_BWed Oct 23 1991 17:128
    I'll give that another try but I spent a lot of time running around
    that area and didn't see any way to cross a river.  I couldn't find
    any place new to go which was adding to the frustration.
    
    
    Thanks
    
    Bob
498.120Need the ice braceletELWOOD::BELANGERWed Oct 23 1991 18:256
    You can't cross the river until you get the ice sword and bracelet.
    Have you been to Portoa yet?  If not, then forget about the Amozones
    for now.  
    
    /jeff
    
498.121spoilers and questionAIMTEC::WARRENS_RKill Capital Punishment!Wed Oct 23 1991 19:1925
    I am still playing. 
    
    spoiler discussion.
    
    And a question for help.
    
    
    I was able to go uup after level 7 I think. RE: 116.
    
    Have you fought tornel?
    
    have you visited oak ?
    
    
    
    spoiler question.
    
    Help. I cannot find a wise man to give the love pendant to
    
    Kensu is supposedly walking the countryside but I have not found him. I
    think it is he I should give it to, but not sure.
    
    clues appreciated.
    
    randy
498.122WMOIS::LEWIS_BThu Oct 24 1991 09:2110
    Well, let's see.....I've gotten the wind sword and tornado braclet,
    fire sword and fire ball(?).  Since coming thru the cave to the
    2nd area (I believe) I have visited two towns, the one for travelers
    and the one in the poisonous forest.  Is one of these Oak or Porta?
    If not, some hints as to where these towns are would be appreciated.
    I'm getting tired of running around not finding anything new.  I
    know I'm missing something but I can't figure out what!
    
    Thanks
    Bob
498.123some answers I hope.AIMTEC::WARRENS_RKill Capital Punishment!Thu Oct 24 1991 16:2021
    RE: -.1
    
    spoiler info.
    
    
    the poisonous swamp town is that of Oak. there is an important mission
    to be done here for these people of Oak that have been described in
    prior notes.
    
    I believe (but not sure) that successful task completion will be
    rewarded.
    
    This might be the ticket to climbing the hill stopped due to limited
    power. I think I climbed it at level 7 since I am only at level 11 now
    myself. 
    
    The power that is referred to is...
    
    I believe tested for in a wise man's home. This should be the key.
    
    Randy
498.124help at sea.AIMTEC::WARRENS_RKill Capital Punishment!Thu Oct 24 1991 16:2322
    Now to continue my plea for help...
    
    
    I am wondering around the zombie graveyard and the building to its
    rear. i find nothing of real value. Even Clark, who supposedly is
    misseed in Joel does not seem to return when I find him.
    
    I can only get into one of the graveyard huts, is this okay or bad?
    
    I cannot get to the lighthouse, as I can't see through the storehouse
    wall as i don't have the xray goggles, as I can't find them on joel
    island. I believe all of this is becauise i can't find the person to
    give the love pendant to, to get disguise to talk to the amazone chief
    in the right type of disguise.
    
    
    I just seem stumped.
    
    Any clues or leading questions appreciated.
    
    Thanks
    Randy
498.125WMOIS::LEWIS_BThu Oct 24 1991 16:509
    Re: .123
    
    I've already taken care of the requirement in Oak and received
    the prize.  I've also taken the challenge and won by backing
    the guy to the wall.  Any idea what's in Portoa and where it's
    at?
    
    
    Bob
498.126more hoofing it.AIMTEC::WARRENS_RKill Capital Punishment!Fri Oct 25 1991 17:0215
    some more in RE: -.1
    
    
    
    You are now in for an interesting trip if I remember correctly.
    Assuming that you did everything around OAK and can talk to these
    people, then you should be able to climb the mountain thru the place
    that it used to say you are not powerful enough.
    
    If you have defeated the student in tornel's hut, then he should have
    taught you something. This may help too.
    
    There should be a mahjor reference to the training center.
    
    Randy
498.127Two dumbs don't make me smart.AIMTEC::WARRENS_RKill Capital Punishment!Mon Oct 28 1991 12:1121
    Dumb, dumb, dumb.
    
    I found a corridor in that castle behind the graveyard, which is what I
    needed.
    
    More below...
    
    
    Also, just before the 6th world series game, I found the city of SWAN,
    but somehow lost the whole game. So Now I am at the same location as
    the other person asking about what's next after Oak (sorry i don't
    remember your name.)
    
    So I will trudge to the mountains and try to gain access up the
    mountain which needs more power.
    
    BTW, I have th fire sword and fire ball, have down the tasks in Oak,
    and am at level 7. I am NOT able to climb the north side of the
    mountain.
    
    Randy
498.128WMOIS::LEWIS_BMon Oct 28 1991 13:447
    Well, I can now climb the tower although I don't know what
    changed to allow it.  I've been running around through the caves
    and have gotten the third power for the fire sword.  I don't
    know where to look now.
    
    
    Bob
498.129Looking for AmazonesAKOFIN::BROWNcat_max = current_cats + 1Mon Oct 28 1991 15:5220
	Help -- after spending all weekend roaming around over ground
	I have already covered (and mapped), I'm ready for a spoiler.

	I still haven't found the town of Amazones, although I thought
	I had been EVERYWHERE in that second area (the instruction book
	lists Amazones there); I have the first two swords (wind and
	fire if I remember right) and their bracelets.  For magic I
	have refresh, telepathy and teleport.

	I've found Oak and been rewarded; I've roamed around the caves
	that are basically southwest of Brynmaer and I've been through
	the caves on Mt. Saber.  I even met/killed General Kelb... but
	can't open the locked gate behind where I met him.

	Where do I go from here?  I can't find anything else, or any
	place else to visit.  Please help, this is VERY frustrating.  I
	did fine getting this far without looking at spoilers or hints
	but now I am completely stuck.

	Jan
498.130WMOIS::LEWIS_BMon Oct 28 1991 16:0210
    Re: last
    
    Sounds like we're in exactly the same spot....not that it's of
    any help to you!!  I don't know where to go from here either.
    
    Btw, I don't believe you killed the general.  At least when I
    fought him he left a chest and said I'd be seeing him again.
    
    
    Bob
498.131Yes, Gen. not deadAKOFIN::BROWNcat_max = current_cats + 1Mon Oct 28 1991 16:0615
RE:                  <<< Note 498.130 by WMOIS::LEWIS_B >>>

>    Btw, I don't believe you killed the general.  At least when I
>    fought him he left a chest and said I'd be seeing him again.
    
    
 You're right, Bob -- he did just leave the chest and say ...

 It's consoling to know I'm not the only person to get stuck at this point,
 now all we need is to hear from someone who isn't!!



	Jan

498.132Need to find a keyELWOOD::BELANGERMon Oct 28 1991 17:1810
    Re -1:
    Spoiler
    
    
    You need to visit the room next to where thge towns people of
    Leaf were imprisoned.  You will find the key to exit this level.
    You need the ice sword and bracelet to get to the Amazones.  You
    will find these items in the town of Portoa (I believe).
    
    /jeff
498.133WMOIS::LEWIS_BMon Oct 28 1991 17:557
    Re: last
    
    Thanks!  Is this room connected to the room with the townfolk
    or is it at the end of another passageway?
    
    
    Bob
498.134the roomAIMTEC::WARRENS_RKill Capital Punishment!Mon Oct 28 1991 20:325
    
    
    close to the same room, but a different passage way.
    
    Randy
498.135an answer on barrier.AIMTEC::WARRENS_RKill Capital Punishment!Wed Oct 30 1991 17:0336
    Because I have lost the game I was saving, I am only back at level 7
    and just ending the Oak people.
    
    There have been some discussion as to what is needed to advance past
    the mountain barrier (Mt Sabre i think) in the North.
    
    I think I have the answer 
    
    Spoiler.
    
    
    
    Teleport seems to be the answer. This is given by Tornel in the west
    training ground. This means you have to advanmce up the mountain in the
    west (also mt sabre).
    
    Tornel says he is surprised to see you but gives you the chest with the
    magic.
    
    I believe that the first time I did this i happened to advance my level
    to 8, but this time I waited until after climbing the mt on the north
    side to do that. thus I don't believe that level has any direct
    relationship to the barrier.
    
    Notice, it is an Oak person that hints at the necessity of going to the
    west training ground, and also you will have had to fighttornel's
    student (Stom?) first.
    
    Once you beat Stom, he waits. Later he tells you that the tornado
    bracelet is in the mountains. There is a possibility that this is what
    got me through the barrier. I am uncertain, but think it was the
    teleport.
    
    Just to add to the confusion.
    
    Randy
498.136WMOIS::LEWIS_BWed Oct 30 1991 19:498
    Re: .131
    
    Hi Jan, I found the key and have been running around the town
    trying to get behind the Queen's chamber.  So, how are you doing?
    
    
    
    Bob
498.137Exploration continuesAKOFIN::BROWNcat_max = current_cats + 1Fri Nov 01 1991 13:3914
RE:  <<< Note 498.136 by WMOIS::LEWIS_B >>>

	Progress is being made, thanks for asking!  

	I happened to be looking through the sub-screen for something
	else and noticed that I had a key -- don't know where/when I
	got it, but I opened the door and am now happily exploring
	Portoa/Joel/graveyard area/Amazone etc.  

	Thanks for all the help, I haven't needed any spoilers for
	several days now!!


	Jan
498.138Where are the finest 4????ESKIMO::ROBINSONThu Nov 21 1991 18:0012
    
    
    I hope that there is some people still playing this game.  Or that
    you have good memories.  I am having trouble finding the finest 4, 
    I don't think that I really want to meet them, but I do want to 
    finish this game.  I have read the other notes, but there is no answer.
    I was thinking that I didn't have something that I needed and that is
    way I hadn't meet them yet, but that is not the case.  Please help me, 
    this is the 4th night of me trying to find them to no avail.
    
    Thanks  De
    
498.139Try thisRAYBOK::COOPEROne-ton Tomato !Thu Nov 21 1991 20:447
    It has been awhile but I think that you have to go back to the town
    that was destroyed (?) and then you will encounter the first of the
    four. After that, return to the last castle and I think that is where
    the last three are. I have played several games since then so I'm a
    little vague, sorry .
    
    Jim C.
498.140final fourSOLVIT::JAFFEMon Nov 25 1991 14:286
    I replayed Crystalis a few weeks ago, and I recall that the final four
    are in the castle of GOA. The four are in a rather complicated maze and
    you will have to defeat each of the four with a different sword. The
    four they refer to are the four main baddies that you met up with on
    your quest who after defeating them, ran away.
    
498.141Help with HeadsAKOFIN::BROWNcat_max = current_cats + 1Mon Nov 25 1991 15:4013
	Here I am, stuck once again.  Strong hint needed:  how do I kill
	the bull-heads (or whatever) that I have found in Goa and in the
	underground area in the desert south of Goa?

	I have the first two swords and their bracelets, the third sword
	and its ball, and the fourth sword.  Nothing seems to do any
	damage on those things and I can't find any other areas to
	explore.  Am I missing something?

	All help greatly appreciated,


	Jan
498.142Finisher!!!!ESKIMO::ROBINSONMon Nov 25 1991 17:1310
    re 139 & 140
    
    My problem was not being able to find the right entrance to meet the 
    first baddie. After I did things went really fast, til I met the last
    one. I had problems with him!!! But I got him in the end, and finished
    the game last night.  Now I am off to play Final Fantasy...Thank
    goodness for this notesfile.......
    
    De
    
498.143No answers?AKOFIN::BROWNcat_max = current_cats + 1Mon Dec 02 1991 19:007
	I hate to be a pest, but as I described in .141 -- I'm stumped.

	Can't someone offer advice?


	Jan    

498.144Need Bracelet !!RAYBOK::COOPEROne-ton Tomato !Wed Dec 04 1991 20:397
    JAN,
       All I can tell you is that you need the Thunder Bracelet so that
    you can completely power up the 4th (?) sword. Have you totally
    searched Mount Hydra ? I have been playin several other games lately
    so my memory dims.
    
    Jim C.
498.145bull-heads, swords, and final fourAIMTEC::WARRENS_RKill Capital Punishment!Tue Dec 10 1991 13:5717
    I do not know what the bull heads are. i am currently playing this game
    and am at the maze behind goa so I suspect I am at about the place you
    are.
    
    But I am unaware of bull heads.
    
    I do think that you should have the bracelet for the first three swords
    and the ball for the fourth by this time though.
    
    RE: the final four. Where was this directive given. i believe that i
    have encountered most of them, but have not been outright told to do
    so. Just curious - then again not having been told this may indicate
    that I have missed something that I should not have missed.
    
    Thanks
    
    Randy
498.146endingAIMTEC::WARRENS_RKill Capital Punishment!Fri Dec 20 1991 17:063
    Nice ending.
    
    Randy
498.147stuck on second levelGLDOA::IRIONSMANIAC WITH A MISSONSat Dec 28 1991 15:238
    help i am on the second level of the game. i have been to oak and i
    have two
    swords a bracelet and a power ball. do i have to find the amazons at
    this level or do i need to go up a level if so how do i do this. i have
    been threw the ice cave several times but i cant find a way out also i
    do not have the power to climb the hill. any help will be apperciated.
    
    dave
498.148try this RAYBOK::COOPEROne-ton Tomato !Mon Dec 30 1991 19:546
    I believe that you need to find the way through the ice cave. Have
    you been to the town of Portoa yet ? Do you have the water sword and
    its bracelet and power ball ? It has been several months since playing
    this game so I am trying to jog my memory .
    
    Jim C.
498.149MRCSSE::SWETTTue Dec 31 1991 09:557
    I have just made it past that point recently. You need to obtain the
    ice sword and ball before you can reach Amazones. It is in the same
    area as Brynmaer.
    
    
    tom
    
498.150help needed in portaGLDOA::IRIONSMANIAC WITH A MISSONTue Dec 31 1991 16:097
    
    where do i find the ice sword and its power ups. in porta i cannot seem
    to do anything, this includes the cave behind the waterfall, how do i
    get by the two frozen people. i assume i cannot go on until i have the 
    ice sword and i assume it is behind the waterfall.
    
    any help apperciated!!!!!
498.151MRCSSE::SWETTTue Dec 31 1991 16:4513
    
    
    The ice sword is somewhere in one of those caves. There is a device to
    use that will change those stone people. It's easy. I couldn't figure
    it out either until I went thru the instruction booklet again and read
    the descriptions of the devices. I can't remember offhand which device.
    
    Now, I can't figure out how to get into the stupid lighthouse!!! 
    Any hints for that?
    
    
    tom
    
498.152lighthouseGLDOA::IRIONSMANIAC WITH A MISSONThu Jan 02 1992 10:497
    ref -1
    
    tom there is a storeroom in joel but you need x ray glasses to find it
    i am searching evil spirit island for it i will let you know if i find
    it and yes i do work in indiana.
    
    thanks  dave
498.153MRCSSE::SWETTTue Jan 07 1992 11:168
    How about some hints to take care of the 3rd of the finest 4 (Mado?). I
    can't seem to make a dent in him.
    
    Also, where can I find more magic rings? None of the shops seem to have
    them.
    
    tom
    
498.154LOST IN PORTIAHOTWTR::HAGUE_LOAIM TO PLEASEFri Apr 24 1992 15:1915
    Is anyone out there still playing this game???
    
    I am at the town of Portia and have given the Dolphin what he needed to
    get better.  He gave me the shell flute and disappeared.  I did not get
    to go for a ride with him to get the missing pendant, and every time I
    use the flute "Nothing Happens".  I can't use the boat because I need
    the fog lamp. 
    
    I have searched in vain and am stuck.  I do not have the use of the map
    and I am going through this blind.  Please help me.  Give me some 
    advise as to where I can get help.  I can't get to GOA either.
    
    Thanks in advance,
    
    Louise
498.155MRCSSE::SWETTMon Apr 27 1992 18:189
    
    
    You need the fog lamp next, I believe.
    
    
    It is in one of the caves outside of Portoa. I can't recall exactly
    where.
    
    
498.156RE: help for -.2SOLVIT::JAFFETue Apr 28 1992 18:0112
    RE: -.2
    It has been a while for me as well but -.1 is correct in that you need
    the FOG LAMP in order to get the boat...in order to take the boat ride
    to the point where you can use the flute to call the dolphin.
    
    The problem of where to find the lamp... As indicated by -.1, it is
    indeed in a cave east of portoa. Getting to the cave, if I recall
    correctly, requires the bracelet that allows your water sword to change
    water into ice. You have to cross one of the streams to find the cave
    to get the lamp etc.
    
    Hope this helps
498.157Maze help requestedBALMER::MUDGETTOne Lean, Mean Whining MachineSun May 17 1992 00:5810
Greetings,

We just restarted playing this game a couple weeks ago. When to
GOA we couldn't get through the maze. We've done well at getting
everything else and are looking for some help getting through the 
maze. 

Thanks,

Fred and Andrew Mudgett
498.158Help. Spoiler needed on BOW of TRUTH!GLDOA::FULLERWorthless, charming and dangerousWed Oct 21 1992 19:466
    Does ANYBODY know how or where you might get the BOW of TRUTH? We have
    been looking for days on end. Are we wasting our time?
    
    
    Thanks.
    
498.159SOLVIT::JAFFEThu Oct 22 1992 11:395
    I remember you definitly need this bow. This is your weapon against 
    the final problem. If memory serves, you need flight magic. There was a
    place in the mountains that showed a reachable area but only with
    flight magic. Return to that location and fly across. I think the bow
    was on that ledge.
498.160GLDOA::FULLERWorthless, charming and dangerousThu Oct 22 1992 22:417
    I think you are talking about the BOW of SUN in Mt. Hydra. I already
    have that. I need the BOW of TRUTH.
    
    Thanks, anyway.
    
    (p.s. I will try it anyway.)
    
498.162Where is everybody???GLDOA::FULLERWorthless, charming and dangerousMon Dec 14 1992 23:3811
    Hello???? Is anybody still here??? I haven't seen a note in here for at
    least a month!
    
    Okay, I need two spoilers now.
    
    	1. Where is the BOW OF TRUTH?
    
    	2. Where is the Psycho Armor?
    
    If anybody can answer these pleas, I would be very grateful.
    
498.163RUSURE::EDPAlways mount a scratch monkey.Tue Dec 15 1992 10:539
    Re .162:
    
    Unfortunately, many people are no longer playing older games and no
    longer remember where many of the objects are.  If you cannot find
    assistance here, Nintendo is usually helpful.  In the United States,
    the game counselors can be reached at 1-206-885-7529.
    
    
    				-- edp
498.164LUNER::CIDADOTue Dec 15 1992 11:317
    Re.162
    
    The armor is in a treasure box that will be given to you when you kill
    the person in the desert pyramid outside of sahara. You will the drop
    down and talk to another person that will give you the bow of truth
    
    David
498.165Maybe some help !!RAYBOK::COOPEROne-ton Tomato !Thu Dec 31 1992 16:285
    If I remember correctly, you need to talk to a woman to get the bow
    of truth. Hope this helps, it has been a while since I played this
    game.
    
    Jim C.
498.166Help with the X-ray glasses/JoelAKOV06::PILOTTEMon Feb 01 1993 15:3913
    I know this game is not new, but I just got it and Im really enjoying
    it.
    
    If anyone remembers...please post a clue as to the location of the
    X-ray glasses on the Island of Joel??
    I am only at level 10 at this point in the game and other notes here
    have said that they were higher at this point.  Could that affect my
    ability to find the glasses??
    I have been outside on the dolphin searching the perimiter of the
    island and have scoured the town of joel itself.  Im sure its just
    under my nose but can someone give me a clue?
    
    Thanks, Judy
498.167JUPITR::MNORTONMon Feb 01 1993 15:5318
    Spoilers to follow
    
    
    You need to go to another town. it is were all the zonbie are. you need
    to go into the house and go down stairs. there will be someone there to
    tell you something. go and do what you need to do then come back to him
    again. at that point you should get them. Then you to joel town to were
    the rabbit house is and put the glasses on to see the secret door.
    
    spoiler to town
    
    
    go into the water cave and go by all those creatures to get to that
    town.
    
    
    
    mike
498.168Sebena is tough!AKO588::PILOTTEMon Feb 01 1993 17:389
    re:-1 thanks...i do remember going down the stairs.  And I know what I
    have to do..thanks
    
    I am having trouble killing Sabena thats in the castle.  I have the
    paltinum armor and the mirrored shield but im at level 10. Ive tried
    all three swords that I have and I cant seem to get her!
    I guess im going to have to get my levels up...Got some fighting to do!
    
    Thanks again, Judy