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    I put a few hours into the game this weekend and I have to
    give it an unqualified recommendation.  It just goes to
    show the value of marketing.  I don't think this one has
    been heavily advertised, though I may be wrong.  It is
    made by Capcom, a major player.
    
    But it really is an excellent RPG.  Battles are in command
    mode, so if you insist upon swordplay this one isn't
    for you.  If you liked Ultima, you'll like this!
    
    Joel
    

My sister asked me to post this.

She is playing this game and needs help on two things

	How do you get into Liu Zheng's Peaceful land
	and How do you wake up the warrior in his house

AS I gave her the game, she says it is my responsibility to help her
with it - so any help would be appreciated.

    re: .2
    
    
    Not easy to answer, though I could do it were I there.
    
    [spoilers]
    
    
    
    
    
    
    
    
    
    
    
    
    I think the sleeping guy and the peaceful guy are not in the
    same house.
    
    For the sleeping guy, go back to the very first village - it's
    right next to the first castle.  Talk to the guy in the house
    and then follow the trail, verbally and literally.  You can
    use the gullwing at some points.  If you do this, you will
    finally (again) reach the house with the sleeping guy.  Talk
    to the guy in the front of the house.  When the game asks
    you if you want to wake him up, answer `no.'  Then wait.
    You have to wait awhile.  He'll wake up, talk to you,
    then disappear.  You have to follow him to the next
    castle or so where he will finally join you.
    
    As for getting by the peaceful land, I do believe that once
    the sleeping guy joins you, you'll be able to talk to the
    guy in the house and go right by.  If not, then there's
    someone else who must join you.  But having the right
    character in your party is the key to advancing at several
    stages of this game.  (e.g., having Lu Zhe to get by that
    miserable woman who blocks the bridge in that one castle)
    
    Joel
    

  Thanks a lot,  I'll call her tonight. This should get me off the hook for
  at least a little while.

    i'm stuck at the place where the guy is being held prisoner in the
    town and he says to ram the door. i've rammed and rammed and can't
    get that door open. another thing is that i can't find the mountain
    with the ore. also i haven't been to find anything around the guy
    that says "check the area around me."
    
    any hints would be appreciated.
    
    thanks.

    Well, I have been playing this game for about a week now and
    really like it !! It is a lot like Dragon Warrior in that
    you always fight in command mode. I have reached level 24
    and have "tamed" three of the five tigers (strong generals).
    It appears to be a long game but not boring by any means.
    As you wander around looking for various items and recruiting
    new troops (usually after defeating them in battle) the gold
    and experience points build up steadily. No need to do a lot
    of endless wandering just to gain strength and wealth. If you
    like RPG's check this one out.
    
    Jim

    Okay I'm stuck.
    
    I'm at level 21 or 22 (can't remember which) and when I approach this
    cottage from right to left I enter and someone says that I'm about to
    enter the peaceful land of suc and such. I leave the cottage and the 
    map mode shows me to the right of the cottage again on the road. On
    each side of the cottage are white mountains which prevent me from
    advancing to the left.
    
    Do I need to do something to get by this cottage?
    
    Also, who are the five tigers? I may have already tamed a few (was Lu
    Bu one of them?)
    
    I'm loaded with men, bows, power pills, elixirs, have two gemswords,
    and all that jazz.
    
    Mike

    It's been a while, but:  This was the hardest part - yes,
    you need something:
    
    All you need is the right group composition (the 5 tigers).
    Can't remember names, now, but go back and get the clues again,
    then get the characters.  To get one of them, you'll have to go
    back and forth between locations a couple of times ...
    
    steve
    

    Steve,
    
    So once the five tigers are "tamed" and in my party (on the screen),
    that fellow in the cottage will let me pass huh?
    
    Boy, sounds like a big chunk of the game may be behind me.

    I thought so too, but there is surprisingly more left of the
    game.
    
    I thought that this was THE BEST game of its "type" - I'm
    surprised that more people haven't discovered it here, especially
    as it was ranked very highly by the Pro's in Nintendo Power.
    
    steve
    

    You're right.
    
    It's pretty deep and a great RPG for the money.
    
    And there are tons of characters in here. If you like Dragon Warrior
    you'll like this game.
    
    Mike

    Well I played for awhile last night. I'm so strong that nobody stands a
    chance when they come up against my army. I'm always doing "All-out" in
    the battles.
    
    I have over 40 people so I may very well have the five tigers. I just
    need to figure out which 5 they are and put them in my party.
    
    From some of the clues I'd guess that two of the tigers are...
    
    (since this may be a spoiler I'll treat it as such)
    
    Pang Tong and someone named Wang.
    
    Mike

    I finished this game a couple of weeks ago and believe me, you have a
    long way to go.  Two of the guys that you picked up early in the game
    are "tigers" and you are right about two of the others. Have you got
    the guy that sits in the pass to join you yet ? Also have you chased
    the one guy all over the world to get him to join up ? Did you ask
    if Lu Bu is one of the tigers ? He will show his true self before
    long I would imageine. I think I was at level 50 when I finished this
    game. Keep at it Mike, it is a great game.
    
    Jim C.

    Thanks Jim,
    
    I'll keep plugging. This game is a real sleeper. It really gives you a
    lot for your money.
    
    Are you listening out there all you RPG freaks?
    
    Mike

    Well I expect that I'll complete this game by the weekend. I'm on level
    47 and through various actions and messages it appears that I need to
    accomplish just a few more "tasks" to finally rid the country of all of
    the yellow scarves.
    
    Is the ending worth it?
    
    Mike

    Mike,
       I thought the ending was pretty good with lots of narritive.
    Isn't this a long game ? Well worth the investment !!
    (of course I borrowed it from a friend ) But still a game
    worth playing !!!
    
    JIm C.

    Every once in a while a game comes along that gives you more for your
    money. This is one. It may not have the greatest of graphics but it is
    one of the best RPG NES games I've played.
    
    I'm closing in on the end of the game and will probably finish it this 
    week.
    
    Originally this game was to hold me over until I could get my hands on
    Dragon Warrior III. This game has more than served it's purpose.
    
    You're right about the game being long Jim. It's long but very
    entertaining. The battle modes really make you think.
    
    I think this game is even deeper than Final Fantasy.
    
    Mike (Liu Bu's friend)

    Well  once again I did it the hard way. I finished the game without
    using one of my GEMSWORDS. I carried the thing for the whole game and
    never got to use it.
    
    Has anyone used the GEMSWORD?
    
    Mike (Savior of the Han Dynasty)

    
    
    
    
    
     I seem to be getting stuck with with sleeping guy.
    
>    For the sleeping guy, go back to the very first village - it's
>    right next to the first castle.  Talk to the guy in the house
>    and then follow the trail, verbally and literally.  You can
>    use the gullwing at some points.  If you do this, you will
>    finally (again) reach the house with the sleeping guy.  Talk
>    to the guy in the front of the house.  When the game asks
>    you if you want to wake him up, answer `no.'  Then wait.
>    You have to wait awhile.  He'll wake up, talk to you,
>    then disappear.  You have to follow him to the next
>    castle or so where he will finally join you.
    
    
    	I went back and forth several times.  I have tried waiting in the
    house and outside.  Nothing seems to work.  If I go to the tavern the
    guy just says "so what".  Back somewhere in some town a guy keeps
    saying "Help Me". I've moved Leu Bu to just about every castle I could. 
    
    Not to be repetative "Help Me".
    
    
    				Thanks, Roger
    

    I had trouble with this part also, I went back to the first town but
    the guy said that the man had left . I searched eveywhere to no avail.
    
    
    
       Finally, I went back to the house that he had been sleeping in and
    the man there said, Go to town and wait. I went back to the town he
    suggested and talked to everyone but nothing !! I shut the game off,
    back on and restarted talking to everryone in the town again. This
    time one of the guys in town told me to go back to his house, that he
    would see me now. I walked back to the cabin and the man was there and
    I believe joined my party at that time. This was a very frustrating
    time in the game for me as it seemed nothing would work. About the guy
    that says "help me'. I was never able to "help" this guy but it
    didn't seem to make any difference in finishing the game.
    
    Jim C.

    
    
    	I just got this game yesterday, after reading this note...So
    	far I love it, much like the Dragon Warrior games. I have one
    	question thou, north of 1st castle is a village, and behind
    	the mountains of this village is a cave, now in this cave is
    	1 man that tells you to leave or die. Also there is a river,
    	my question is, how do I get across the river?? Or should I
    	just wait and figure it  out?
    
    	thanks
    	rth
    

    Just wait - you'll figure it out.  Have (lots) of fun!
    
    steve
    

    re: .21
    
    [spoiler follows]
    
    
    
    
    
    
    
    
    
    
    
    
    
    
    
    I forget his name, but one of the early generals you defeat
    will join you.  Someone might already have told you that
    [insert name of general] knows a "back way" into that castle.
    
    When he does join you, go back and the guy will let you across.
    You will have to fight your way into the castle, but it will
    be an easier fight than if you go via the front.
    
    Joel
    

    
    	.20/21
    
    		thanks. I figured it out last night. Great game!
    
    	rht

    
    
    This is a great game but there are always a few things that need the
    help of the experts. Like people before I'm having problems waking up
    the sleeping man Liu Zheng's. If there is someone out there that can
    tell me the names of the 5 tigers that are needed to wake this guy up 
    I can start getting some sleep at night. It's been a long month trying
    to wake him up so I can get some sack time.
    
    /Stuck in the sleep zone
    
    ITL

    I don't remeber the names of the five tigers but to wake the guy
    I had to first chase him from town to town. I never caught up but
    ended up back at his cabin where a guy told me " Go to town and
    wait". So, I went back up the screen to the previous town, stopped
    the game and then turned it back on. Then I questioned everyone in
    town and was told by one man to go back to the cabin and I would
    be seen. At this point I went back to the cabin and Liu Zheng was
    waiting for me. I had wandered aimlessly for days before trying this.
    I even thought I had tried it before with no success. This seemed to
    be the hardest part to get through in the game, good luck.
    
    Jim C.

   (I am sort of reiterating .18)

   I can't figure out how to use the Gemsword.  At some point somebody
   gives you a hint that so-and-so would defect to your side for the
   sword but I haven't been able to give it to him.  I tried "USING"
   it when I fought him but it had no effect. Has anybody found a use
   for this or is it just extra baggage (which you cannot drop by the way)?

                                               - dave

    
    This game sounds pretty good, does it have a password feature?
    Thanks.
                                Walt

    
       Re: .28
    
      It has a battery save feature.  You can save 3 games at a time and
      even copy a game. 
    
                                           - Dave

	My sister asked me to post this - she is tired of losing sleep over it.
	She is stuck at the place where the guy is being held a prisoner
	and he says to ram the door and something about the bars are weak.
	She has tried everything she could thing of to break in.

	Any hints would be appreciated.
    
	thanks.

My most humble 8 year old has captured almost all of the generals but cannot 
identify the 5 Tigers. He is at level 24 (approx.) and trying to pass into the 
"land of peace". He said he "trashed" LU BU already. Most impressive.
He now expects his most humble dad to figure it out. H E L P ! Who are the 5
he must put in his party?  A GEMSWORD for the answer! I must save face since 
he told his friends " here's one he might get right".

Tom,

    
    My son and I really enjoy this game!  After many hours of play we are at 
    at point where we could use assistance to break an impass.  We can't seem 
    to be able to defeat Si Ma Yi, Yang Xiu, and Jiang Gan at Chin Castle.
    
    We get to the gates at Chin Castle and with the help of the key strokes
    ... (up up down down left right up down) we avoid Si Ma Yi's magic
    spell.  Unfortunately, no combination of battle & tactics seem to get
    us past this point.  I assume we do not have the correct tactics and or
    combination of travelers to defeat Si Ma Yi.  Any help will be
    appreciated?  
    
    Also, some where along the way (hours ago) I recall a hint about a
    great war horse called "Chi Tu Ma" ... something about 8 west and 1
    south as the coordinates to search.  Where and how does one find this
    horse?  
    
    Other information on our party ...
    
    We are at level 50 and have the following travelers:
    
    Chang Bao, Zhao Yun, Jiang Wei (alternate strategist), Guan Xing, Ma Chao,
    (armed with swords Bo Ye, Nu Long, Quing Long, Quing Quang, and Wan Shang 
    respectively) Huang Zhong, and Zhu Ge Liang (the designated strategist).
    
    Zhu Ge Liang's tactics include:  Huo Shen (Fire), Shui Long (Water), 
    Jin Xian (Healing), Ce Mian (Null Attacks), Gui Huan (Gullwing), and 
    Bei Ji (Power Increase).
    
    Jiang Wei's tactics include: Huo Shen, Shui Long, Wan Fu (Recovery), 
    Ji Mian, Gui Huan, An Sha (Assassination).
    
    To those of you who have conquered this game ... how far are we from
    the end?  How many of the five tigers do we have?
    
    We're looking forward to hearing from anyone who has shared the game.
    
    KC