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Title:Nintendo Game Systems
Notice:Please enter Super NES notes in Yuppy::Super_NES.
Moderator:RUSURE::EDP
Created:Tue Oct 20 1987
Last Modified:Mon Feb 03 1997
Last Successful Update:Fri Jun 06 1997
Number of topics:847
Total number of notes:11602

565.0. "The Immortal" by JARETH::EDP (Always mount a scratch monkey.) Mon Dec 17 1990 15:57

    The Immortal is out.  This game has a three-dimensional view like
    Solstice, although the game play is different.  It appears to be an
    adventure game; one goes from room to room picking up objects (keys,
    bait, treasure, et cetera) and using them in appropriate places.  There
    are monsters to fight.  When a fight begins, the game cuts to a
    separate screen showing one enemy and the player.  The player can duck
    or attack, with options for left, right, or center (backhand, forehand,
    or jab).  Green and red bars show the vitality and fatigue of the enemy
    and the player.
    
    Games can be continued, apparently indefinitely, and there are
    passwords for each level.
    
    
    				-- edp
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565.1ENOVAX::DIBIASICYBERNETIC HEARTBEATWed Dec 26 1990 03:077
    
    I just got this game and it's very interesting. I'm trying to get off
    of the second level but I'm not having much luck.
    
    
    
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565.2JARETH::EDPAlways mount a scratch monkey.Fri Dec 28 1990 11:216
    I thought I figured out everything I needed to do on the second level
    -- I got all three gems, I placed them in the correct combination. 
    Nothing happened.  Has anybody else completed the second level?
    
    
    				-- edp
565.3This game is great!ENOVAX::DIBIASICYBERNETIC HEARTBEATFri Dec 28 1990 20:1010
    
    edp,
    I'm down to the fourth now. The gems go to the right of the first
    triangle,the left of the center triangle,and the middle of the last
    triangle. The floor will open up in the center of the room. Did you
    change the granite rock to a gem?
    
    
    
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565.4Good but ShortJARETH::EDPAlways mount a scratch monkey.Wed Jan 02 1991 10:3720
    Re .3:
    
    Yep, I had changed the rock to a gem.  It turns out I was
    misinterpreting the clue -- instead of putting the gem in the left,
    center, or right part of each design (first, second, and third), I was
    putting the gems in the left, center, or right design.
    
    Actually, I have finished the game.  The ending was a bit tough, but
    nice.
    
    For anybody else considering this game, you should know that it is
    original and a well-executed game, but it is somewhat short.  There are
    seven levels to go through; each presents a few puzzles.  If you know
    what you are supposed to do, they can be played through in a few hours,
    and it would only take that long because the player keeps getting
    killed by the difficulty of making all the right movements in the right
    places.
         
    
    				-- edp
565.5Then perhaps you can help me. :^)ENOVAX::DIBIASICYBERNETIC HEARTBEATWed Jan 02 1991 20:129
    
    edp,
    
    I'm having trouble at the fourth level when I'm supposed to put the
    gems in clockwise. What's the deal? I have tried different combinations
    and nothing seems to work.
    
    
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565.6JARETH::EDPAlways mount a scratch monkey.Thu Jan 03 1991 10:4713
    Re .5:
    
    You don't put the gems in clockwise:
    
    You just walk clockwise around the pattern the specified number of
    times.  I'm not sure how picky the game is on this point.  If you walk
    around the outside of the whole pattern, you'll bump into the ladder
    and leave the room.  I think I walked around the inner triangle but
    at least partially inside the outer circle.  The exit will appear on
    the left side of the screen.
    
    
    				-- edp
565.7Very good.ENOVAX::DIBIASICYBERNETIC HEARTBEATThu Jan 03 1991 17:437
    
    Thanks buddy. :^) I'll try it tonight.
    
    
    
    
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565.8A great gameENOVAX::DIBIASICYBERNETIC HEARTBEATFri Jan 04 1991 17:3027
    
    Some spoilers on the 6th level:
    
    
    Once you have gone through the red room you come upon a hole in the
    ground and a door. The door is a continuation of the game. If you go
    into to hole you find yourself in sealed room. If you leave the room
    and go back up the ladder and through the red room back out to the door
    that leads to the red room and turn around and go back all the way
    down,you will come upon a four young DEC type dudes. They are the
    writers of the game Immortal. They will ask you for coffee. If you
    answer yes they will reply that they wrote this here program and you
    are a liar. Then they burn you to the ground. If you answer no,they
    tell you to get lost and they return to their "nap". It was pretty wild
    to stumble on this.
    
    
    But, Now I'm having trouble in the water. I'm trying to out run the
    Nordac and I can lead him almost all the way to the whirlpool but I
    can't seem to hold out longer than that. Should I turn around at that
    point and go back towards the gate so the Goblins can drain the
    chamber? I know I'm just trying to bide time for the Goblins. What's
    the trick?
    
    
    
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565.9coffee anyone?OTOA01::BEARSFri Jan 04 1991 18:242
    There IS a coffee pot!!  I wondered what it was for. You find it using
    a carpet. 
565.10ENOVAX::DIBIASICYBERNETIC HEARTBEATSat Jan 05 1991 06:1621
    I looked for the coffee pot for hours. Where is it??? I checked every
    inch of space used when on the magic carpet.
    
    as for the water (Spoiler)_
    
    You get in close enough to the water creature to get him to chase you
    and you have to make it to the whirlpool. Good Luck. ;^)
    
    
    
    I'm all the way down to the Dragon now. I can't seem to do anything to
    him. I can "vanish" six times. I can be fire proof once. I figure that
    the amulet has something to do with this puzzle. What's the deal?
    
    More important....Where's the coffee? Does this have something to do
    with killing the dragon????
    
    
    
    
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565.11JARETH::EDPAlways mount a scratch monkey.Mon Jan 07 1991 11:1821
    Re .8:
    
    You just have to be fast -- don't go any closer than the monster than
    you need to.  In fact, try to be already starting to move away when it
    comes awake.  Don't bump into any walls.  And do go directly into the
    whirlpool.
    
    
    Re .9:
    
    Where!?
    
    
    Re .10:
    
    You need to use everything you have at the end, except the gold.  You
    need to use the blink spell (six times), the fireproof spell, the
    amulet, the statue spell (six times), and the magnetic hands spell.
    
    
    				-- edp
565.12coffeeOTOA01::BEARSMon Jan 07 1991 13:0014
    spoiler
    
    
    First room with carpet - you get Ana's ring from bottom left corner (I
    know, you've done this)
    
    Second room with carpet - you get coffee pot (which can't be seen as an
    icon or dot or anything) by going straight to the intersection, and
    then angling your carpet right and going to the center of the right
    side. You have to run over the pot to get it but it isn't hard - it has
    worked everytime.
    gotta go - I'll talk later.
    
    Paul
565.13short breakOTOA01::BEARSMon Jan 07 1991 13:324
    I'm back - I haven't done anything with the coffee pot yet. I haven't
    had a chance to get back to the game.
    
    Paul
565.14Help!ENOVAX::DIBIASICYBERNETIC HEARTBEATMon Jan 07 1991 16:0620
    
    --edp,
    
    I used the blink spell 6 times. The dragon pauses and I use the
    fireproof spell and the hold the amulet to the light. I end up getting
    killed (by fire even though I use the spell) but just before the screen
    changes and starts over I can see the wizard higher on a rock and the
    dragon looks up.... What am I doing wrong??
    
    
    Paul,
    
    I tried this a few times. I looked all over the right side on the
    second room. It usually takes two wizards for me to get that far. When
    you get the coffee pot,are you doing this with one life? Will it work
    if you die with the ring and start over?
    
    
    
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565.15Where's my COFFEE!!OTOA01::BEARSMon Jan 07 1991 17:2348
    
    
    		       --------
    		      |        |
    		      |        |
    		      |        |=
    		      |        |
    		      |        |
    	 _____________|        |_____________
    	|				     |
    	|				     |
    	|				    C|
    	|				     |
        |				     |
    	 -------------		-------------
    		      |	       |
    		      |	       |
    		      |        |
    		      |        |=
    		      |        |
    		      |        |
    		       --------
    *NOTE: tilt diagram about 45 degrees to get effect of game.
    	= entrance/exit
    	C coffee pot
    
    This is where you find the elusive coffee pot.  It is hard to get to
    because of the fire pits nearby.  It is also hidden (along with a fire
    pit below and above it) from view along the right side but it is within 
    this room.  In other words, there is no secret entrance or wall or
    anything like that - it's just in the shadow of the wall.  Doesn't
    matter what life you are on - I've been on first and last and still got
    it.  It is hard to get to because of getting around the pits but once
    you're in the spot, you should be told:
    
    YOU'VE FOUND A COFFEE POT!
    
    TAKE IT?
    
    YES		NO
    
    or something like that.
    
    Later,
    
    Paul
    
    
565.16ENOVAX::DIBIASICYBERNETIC HEARTBEATMon Jan 07 1991 18:158
    
    I got it Paul. I wasn't going to the wall before. Thanks. Now let's see
    what it does.....
    
    
    
    
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565.17ENOVAX::DIBIASICYBERNETIC HEARTBEATTue Jan 08 1991 05:1711
     
    Coffee Spoiler:

    
    Give the coffee and you will be endowed with the spell of "Infinite
    Body Odor". Every enemy (The Trolls) will dissolve from your stench.
    And it unfortunately does not work on the dragon.



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565.18JARETH::EDPAlways mount a scratch monkey.Tue Jan 08 1991 11:1016
    Re .14:
    
    Two things, maybe:  One, make sure you are using the fireproof spell
    just before the dragon breathes fire at you that seventh time -- the
    spell only lasts for a given period of time, so it has to last through
    that flame.  Two, as soon as you can after using the fireproof spell,
    use the amulet -- keep pressing the button (select/start, whichever)
    until you get the inventory screen.  Use the amulet right away, not
    when the dragon is starting to flame again.
    
    If you use the amulet correctly (but do not read it), the wizard will
    appear and the dragon will abort its flame-throwing and look at the
    wizard.                           
    
    
    				-- edp
565.19I made it!ENOVAX::DIBIASICYBERNETIC HEARTBEATTue Jan 08 1991 17:3810
    
    Thanks edp. I finished last night. Timing is the key to winning the
    last battle.
    
    Overall, I thought the game was really great. Really good graphics.
    
    
    
    
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565.20Rock to Gem help?HOTWTR::DUX_ALFri Oct 11 1991 15:465
    I just picked up the game and am having trouble on the second level, 
    don't know how to change the rock into a gem.  I have repeated level 
    one and two and must be missing a clue or it is just not obvious to me.
    
    Hope someone is still reading this note.
565.21BEING::EDPAlways mount a scratch monkey.Fri Oct 11 1991 16:3915
    Re .20:
    
    You cannot change the rock into a gem.  More clues are below; let me
    know if you need additional help.
    
    Actually, the rock is not "changed" into a gem; there is already a gem
    inside it.
    
    There is something that can reveal the gem.
    
    Give the rock to the thing that can reveal the gem.
    
    
    				-- edp
                                     
565.22Rocks to GemsHOTWTR::DUX_ALMon Oct 14 1991 15:513
    Thanx a bunch.....  Problem was I never got the slime protecting potion
    that enabled that transformation of the rock to gem.  Got through that
    level and one other the same afternoon.
565.23RED ROOM ROTTENHOTWTR::DUX_ALWed Oct 30 1991 20:495
    Now I'm stuck in the red room, all that left,up,left, down jazz I
    haven't been able to figure out.  My left? How far ect.
    
    I can get to the red room and walk a bit using the sensor but always
    get eaten up...
565.24BEING::EDPAlways mount a scratch monkey.Tue Nov 05 1991 13:4210
    Re .23:
    
    There's a picture showing the route through that room at the bottom of
    page 38 of Nintendo Power Volume 20 (January 1991).  It is too
    complicated to describe in words; I had trouble following it even with
    the picture.  So I won't try to describe it.  There's a photocopy in
    the mail to you (Alan Dux at SEO).
    
    
    				-- edp
565.25Mahalo Nui (Much Thanks)HOTWTR::DUX_ALThu Nov 07 1991 15:333
    Thanx for the info, found the picture in the book but haven't tried the
    route yet.  Too busy with yard work, the leaves keep falling , will
    they ever stop?
565.26Mahalo Nui, Oh NES Kahuna.HOTWTR::DUX_ALWed Nov 13 1991 14:543
    Got through the Red Room several times, however, never did get the door
    to stay open in the next room.  I guess my placement of a certain
    object was at the wrong time or in the wrong place.
565.27BEING::EDPAlways mount a scratch monkey.Wed Nov 13 1991 17:349
    Re .26:
    
    Is that the room where the door opens when you stand in a certain
    place?  You cannot keep the door open by yourself.  Spoiler:
    
    You need the bait and a "friend" to solve this.
    
    
    				-- edp
565.28Paddling for Pleasure and ProfitHOTWTR::DUX_ALTue Nov 19 1991 19:046
    RE; 27
    
    Yes thats the room that the bait and "friend are used in.  Got past
    that last session.  Now I'm taking paddling lessons from a large
    monster in the whirlpool room.  So far the monster has won every race
    against me, but it is a matter of time before I win one.