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Title:Nintendo Game Systems
Notice:Please enter Super NES notes in Yuppy::Super_NES.
Moderator:RUSURE::EDP
Created:Tue Oct 20 1987
Last Modified:Mon Feb 03 1997
Last Successful Update:Fri Jun 06 1997
Number of topics:847
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552.0. "Dragon Warrior II" by JARETH::EDP (Always mount a scratch monkey.) Mon Nov 19 1990 11:25

    Dragon Warrior II is out.  I just bought it at Electronics Boutique in
    Pheasant Lane Mall, Nashua, New Hampshire.  But it was the last one,
    sorry.                            
    
    
    				-- edp
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552.1JARETH::EDPAlways mount a scratch monkey.Mon Nov 26 1990 23:585
    Anybody else got one yet?  This game seems pretty good so far.  Very
    much like Dragon Warrior I.
    
    
    				-- edp
552.2Not until ChristmasFSTTOO::HEMONDTHE AMERICAN HARPFri Nov 30 1990 15:482
    Santa bought mine, but won't tell me where it's hidden.  I'll get it
    Christmas Eve with the rest of my gifts.
552.3Dragon Warrior II - Worth the WaitCOEM::SCOPAMAJORWed Jan 02 1991 16:5721
    Okay it's time we start doing justice to this game. I had to wait for
    Xmas so my son could open it up and I've been playing it ever since.
    I've got my primary character at level 20/21 and my prince (Numor) is
    around 17 and my princess (Ollisa) is around 12.
    
    I've gotten two crests and assorted weapons and such.
    
    I would like to say that if you are an Ultima fan or a Dragon Warrior I
    fan then you'll enjoy this game. It is DEEP.
    
    Here's a question. Has anyone purchased the Jailer's Key yet? I know
    where to buy it it's just that I don't know what type of money our
    friend is looking for.
    
    Has anyone notice the "wrapping effect" of the screen? That is, if I am
    at the top of the map and keep going up (in my ship of course) sooner
    that you can say Alfegard you're at the bottom.
    
    How are you coming along with this game Eric?
    
    Mike
552.4JARETH::EDPAlways mount a scratch monkey.Thu Jan 03 1991 10:4515
    Re .3:
    
    > How are you coming along with this game Eric?
    
    I'm done, surprisingly.  Usually I get a game and lots of people pass
    me because I play it a bit and then play other games before coming back
    to it.  But this time I played Dragon Warrior II all the way through,
    over the vacation.  It took a while.
    
    To buy the Jailor's Key, you need:
    
    2000 pieces of gold.
    
                                      
    				-- edp
552.5Figured it outCOEM::SCOPAMAJORFri Jan 04 1991 16:3812
    Yeah...I went home after putting that question in and decided to go for
    it every 1K I earned.
    
    I'm at level 23 for my prime character right now and have gotten three
    of the crests so far.
    
    I'm having a problem finding the crest in that tower which is in the
    middle of the water.
    
    High high up in levels did you end up going before you ended the game?
    
    M
552.6JARETH::EDPAlways mount a scratch monkey.Mon Jan 07 1991 11:148
    Re .5:
    
    > High high up in levels did you end up going before you ended the game?

    Around 30 -- 31, I think.
    
    
    				-- edp
552.7Approaching 25COEM::SCOPAMAJORMon Jan 07 1991 12:428
    Well I'm around level 23.
    
    I just found the Watergate.
    
    Friday night I arranged to have the FLying Water Cloth made but he
    hasn't finished it yet.
    
    Mike
552.8Time for a SpoilerCOEM::SCOPAMAJORTue Jan 08 1991 13:5515
    Okay two questions:
    
          1. I've got the moon fragment but am not sure where I am to go to     
             use it.
    
          2. Where can I find the Eye of Malroth?
    
    Also, as you look at the map there is a small island on the eastern
    portion which has a cave on it. The water is so shallow I cannot get
    my ship close enough to get onto the island. I've tried many things,
    including the magic transporter holes but cannot seem to get there.
    
    I'm stumped.
    
    Mike
552.9JARETH::EDPAlways mount a scratch monkey.Wed Jan 09 1991 11:0726
    Re .8:
    
    (I can't answer 2 from memory; if somebody else does not answer it,
    I'll check my notes.)
    
    >       1. I've got the moon fragment but am not sure where I am to go to
    >         use it.

    When the moon fragment is held high (used), the waters are raised for
    you.
    
    Reefs are dangerous because a ship that runs over them can have its
    bottom destroyed.
    
    Every ship has a certain draft, a depth of water its bottom goes to.
    
    At high tide, there is more water over a reef; the reef is further down
    from the surface.
    
    There's a place surrounded by reefs that you cannot reach normally.
    
    It is an island (far) south of the castle the game starts at and east
    of that continent Hamlin is on.
    
    
    				-- edp
552.10Figured it outCOEM::SCOPAMAJORWed Jan 09 1991 14:328
    Eric,
    
    Yep. Last night I had already figured it out. Best part about that cave
    is the ton of experience points you accumulate with each encounter.
    
    Getting closer.
    
    Mike
552.11Thunder Sword????COMET::FARRINGTONThu Jan 17 1991 20:356
    I give up ...... I've looked all through the cave to Rhone, I
    think and can not find the Thunder Sword.  Can someone help
    please.
    
    Thanx,
    Greg
552.12JARETH::EDPAlways mount a scratch monkey.Fri Jan 18 1991 11:1112
    Re .11:
    
    I think that cave has a number of hidden rooms which are accessible
    only by falling through traps.  In any room which are dead ends (the
    only exit is the way you came in), walk around all the squares to see
    if you fall into another room.
    
    If you can't find it this way (or it takes too long), enter another
    note -- I've got the maps and can look up where the traps are.
    
    
    				-- edp
552.13Making ProgressCOEM::SCOPAMAJORMon Jan 21 1991 22:423
    Okay....got the five crests and the Charm of Rubiss. Onward and upward.
    
    Mike
552.14Finally....COMET::FARRINGTONTue Jan 22 1991 14:009
    Thanx to .12
    
    Found the sword, in the last place I looked of course.
    Finish the game last night, high levels since I spent
    so much time trying to find the Thunder Sword.
    
    Thanx again,
    
    Greg
552.15LevelsCOEM::SCOPAMAJORTue Jan 22 1991 17:456
    Greg,
    
    How high up on the levels were you? I'm still going strong and
    approaching level 30 on all of them.
    
    Mike_who_is_trying_to_figure_out_what_to_do_with_the_charm_of_Rubiss
552.16To level 36DONNER::FARRINGTONTue Jan 22 1991 19:148
    My levels were ... 36,35,31  I'm sure I didn't need to be quite that
    high but I did alot of searching.  Even then it was frustrating to
    get where I needed.  I was so pissed last night about the P.O.W.'s
    I took it out on the game and demolished this guy.
    
    good luck,
    
    Greg  
552.17The Cave to RhoneCOEM::SCOPAMAJORTue Jan 29 1991 18:2114
    For the last few nights I've been wandering around in the cave which I
    believe leads to Rhone.
    
    Am I right in assuming I need to go through this cave?
    
    Boy those green dragons are tough!
    
    Mike, Numor, and Ollisa
    
    P.S. I'm curious as to the names others have seen pop up on the screen.
    
    Mike_who_finally_used_the_Eye_of_Malroth
    
    
552.18JARETH::EDPAlways mount a scratch monkey.Wed Jan 30 1991 10:489
    Re .17:
    
    Yes, you need to go through the cave.  In fact, you probably need to
    search around in the cave for several items.  I recommend ordering the
    map that's offered in the back of the instruction booklet.  (You can
    photocopy the form if you don't want to cut up the booklet.)
    
    
    				-- edp
552.19Trap Doors are KillersCOEM::SCOPAMAJORWed Jan 30 1991 14:277
    Eric,
    
    Does the map show the trap doors?
    
    Saw a batboon yesterday.
    
    Mike
552.20JARETH::EDPAlways mount a scratch monkey.Thu Jan 31 1991 10:596
    Re .19:
    
    Yes, the map shows trap doors.
    
    
    				-- edp
552.21Rubiss ViewCOEM::SCOPAMAJORThu Jan 31 1991 20:319
    Hmm,
    
    Let me guess. Are there towns or castles which appear to be what they 
    aren't and that if you use a certain item than they appear for what
    they truly are?
    
    I don't think it's a spoiler if I'm correct....just a hunch.
    
    Mike
552.22Can not find the charmPNO::RAINESusan RaineFri Feb 08 1991 15:376
	Would appreciate some help.  I have been wondering around the
	tunnel to Rhone for what seems like forever.  I still cannot find
	the charm of Rubiss.   At this point I would swear that I have stepped
	on every square in every room at least a hundred times - but obviously
	I have missed something.  Please help!!!

552.23Charm of RubissCOMET::FARRINGTONFri Feb 08 1991 16:508
    The Charm of Rubiss is not in the cave of Rhone...
    
    try this..
    

 
    There is an island south of Midenhall... a one step island with a
    monolith
552.24thanks........PNO::RAINESusan RaineFri Feb 08 1991 17:583
Bless you - I was getting sooooo tired of the cave of Rhone......


552.25You will returnCOEM::SCOPAMAJORFri Feb 08 1991 19:126
    Sue,
    
    YOu're not out of the woods, erh cave yet. I'm also stuck in the cave
    and am trying to find the opening to get to Rhone. 
    
    Mike
552.26COST OF JAILER'S KEYRAVEN1::CHAMBERSFri Feb 15 1991 06:507
        THE JAILER'S KEY IS 2300 DOLLARS.
    
    
    
    
                                                       NELLA
            
552.27HELP FIND ROGEGLDOA::IRIONSFri Feb 22 1991 18:3812
    DOES ANY BODY KNOW WHERE ROGE FASTFINGERS IS I FOUND THE EMPTY CELL
    BUT I CANT SEEM TO FIND ROGE....ANY HELP IS APPERCIATED....
    
    
    
    
    
    
    
    
    
    
552.28Roge helpFSTVAX::HEMONDTHE AMERICAN HARPFri Feb 22 1991 19:298
    re.27
    
    spoiler after ff
    
    
    to find Roge
    
    enter the empty cell and walk through a wall
552.29Falcon or Thunder Sword?VAXWRK::HARNEYWatch out for that gravity storm!Sun Feb 24 1991 00:2920
Any help is appreciated...  Where is the Falcon Sword?  And the Sword
of Thunder?  



We've already been to the Town-cum-Castle, even spoke to the big
Hargon himself (and Malroth, too, for that matter, if we are to
believe everything we see...), but would like our next visit to be,
um, less deadly.  ;-)

I tried the "dead ends in the maze" idea, but haven't been successful
as of yet. Have tried searching about 1/8 of the area between the Mo'lith
and the "town", but this could take a WHILE.  Repel just doesn't seem as
effective over there...  

But we're gettin' good EPs, and we have 4 minks as a "bank".  What on
earth we'll do with it is beyond me!  (Dragon's Bane all around?? ;-))

Thanks!
\Abi, Roz, and Numo...
552.30Thunder SwordCOMET::FARRINGTONMon Feb 25 1991 12:4410
    To find the Thunder Sword;
    
    Walk all around Rhone cave....
    
    This is a spoiler.
    
    
    Walk all around the room you drop into with no walls..
    
    Greg
552.31HELP FIND A MINK AND LEAFGLDOA::IRIONSMon Feb 25 1991 17:392
    CAN ANYBODY TELL ME WHERE I CAN FIND A MINK AND A LEAF OF THE WORLD
    ANY HELP APPERICATED
552.32re .-1UPWARD::RAINESusan RaineMon Feb 25 1991 21:0614
	I cannot remember in which town - but there is a merchant who
	was offering Mink coats for an exorbitant amount.

	Leaf of the world - spoiler follows:

	In one of the lower towns, a townsperson mentions an island
	where the tree of life can be found

	major spoiler follows:

	Down toward the bottom of the map there	is an island with a
	horse shoe shaped valley

	if you search around the valley you will find the leaf
552.33Will the real Rhone please stand up!UPWARD::RAINESusan RaineTue Feb 26 1991 17:194
Can someone help me find Rhone?  I have been wandering around the cave until
my "feet" are worn to nubs.  I have the thunder sword and the amulet.
Am I looking the the wrong place?

552.34WHERE IS THE ARMORGLDOA::IRIONSTue Feb 26 1991 18:084
    CAN SOMEONE HELP ME FIND THE ARMOR OF ERICK I HAVE THE SHIELD, SWORD
    AND HELMET.
    
    
552.36Questions and AnswersXANADU::KREFETZFri Mar 08 1991 22:4811
    Where is Erdrick's Armor? Where is the mink, and what does it do?
    
    Two spoilers follow:
    
    The Falcon Sword is in the weapon shop in Tuhn.
    
    If you go through the barrier in Beran and enter the warp, you will
    emerge in a secluded area.  Head West and, at the edge of the swamp,
    use the Eye of Malroth.
    
    Benjamin
552.37How much money was it???SUBSYS::SCHNARECHARLIE SCHNARESat Mar 16 1991 19:251
    How much money did you pay to get this game?
552.38VAXWRK::HARNEYWatch out for that gravity storm!Mon Mar 18 1991 14:573
I think mine was $54.95 at Kay-Bee toys in Burlington, MA.

\john
552.39EnemiesCOEM::SCOPAI'd rather be in OrlandoMon Mar 18 1991 20:266
    
    Has anyone noticed that the enemies encountered on the road to Hargon's
    castle are aomewhat tougher than those encountered prior to entering
    the cave to Rhone?
    
    Mike
552.41Desperate!XANADU::KREFETZThu Mar 21 1991 17:531
    WHERE_THE_HELL_(sorry)_IS_ERDRICK'S_ARMOR?!!!
552.42Where, oh where, is the road???UPWARD::RAINESusan RaineFri Mar 22 1991 15:252
PLEASE - How do I get from the cave to Rhone to the road to Hargon's
	castle ?
552.43It's easier than you thinkXANADU::KREFETZSat Mar 23 1991 01:562
    The Cave to Rhone doesn't lead the Hargon's Castle; a warp in Beran
    does.
552.44THANKS!!!!!!!UPWARD::RAINESusan RaineMon Mar 25 1991 15:531
Thanks you!!!!!!!..........I'll go back to playing this tonight.
552.46need cash in a flash???MCIS2::OPR_FOWLERJohn Fowler - RPGsR4MeMon Mar 25 1991 23:0117
    
    I found a way to get over 60,000 gold in about 5 minutes...
    
    go to the castle you start the game in after you have the gold
    and the jailor keys. Go down the stairs in the upper right corner
    and defeat the clown in the cell guarded by barriers. When (and if)
    you kill him you should receive the staff of thunder which has a 
    great resale value (over 19k). Sell the staff, speak with the king
    and save the game answering NO to continue playing, hit reset button
    and begin the process all over again until you sell the staff 3 times.
    You can only hold up to 65536 in gold (the typical binary maximum)
    This was the ONLY way I could get enough gold for the mink coat
    since my team had a way of spending large amounts on revivals!
    
    rgds,
    John
    
552.47Still trying to find HargonUPWARD::RAINESusan RaineTue Mar 26 1991 12:573
	Is there more that one warp in Beran?  The only one I can find
	just leads me to the valley with the cave.

552.48How to go up in Hargon's castleCOEM::SCOPAI'd rather be in OrlandoTue Mar 26 1991 13:5321
    I think you need to get through the Cave to Rhone to get to Hargon's
    castle. It's not easy...you should make a map.
    
    * * * *
    
    Okay gang....I'm real close to finishing this one (will be the third
    game in three weeks...first Final Fantasy...then Star Tropics...). I am
    in Maidenhall...actually Hargon's castle if you do the right thing. I
    cannot figure out how to advance from that first floor. I've looked and
    tried everywhere...using up stepguard spells...but no success.
    
    I know I need to use an item and I know what that item is so I won't
    reveal it here. I just need to know where to use that item. Also, it's
    not the item I used to "clear my vision" of Maidenhall but the other 
    item.
    
    Can anyone help?
    
    Thanks,
    
    Mike
552.49Still wondering where I went "Rhone"!!UPWARD::RAINESusan RaineTue Mar 26 1991 18:506
	Thanks.  I did make a map and I thought that I had stepped on every
	square, pushed on every wall and used the two items in every room
	in the cave - but I have obviously missed a very essential step.
	I would appreciate some pointers on where I went wrong.

	Can anyone help?	Thanks.......Sue
552.50Are You Sure?XANADU::KREFETZWed Mar 27 1991 00:316
    re .45
    
    I looked everywhere in the *@&$#!!! Dragon's Horn Tower (North and
    South), but didn't find anything.
    
    Benjamin
552.51Erdricks Armor HintMCIS2::OPR_FOWLERJohn Fowler - RPGsR4MeWed Mar 27 1991 21:3310
    re.41
    
   > WHERE (etc) IS ERDRICK'S ARMOR?

    <spoiler>
    
    Erdricks armor can be found in a treasure chest in the cave leading
    to Rhone. If you look on the dungeon map, you take stairs 3,6,9 then
    go in a south-east direction stair stairs 14(?) and up twice. 
    
552.52Where Did You Get a Dungeon Map? I Don't Have OneXANADU::KREFETZWed Mar 27 1991 22:501
    
552.53maps anyone???MCIS2::OPR_FOWLERtry solving Rubics new HYPERcubeFri Mar 29 1991 21:4610
	re.-1
    
    > Where Did You Get a Dungeon Map?  I Don't Have One
    
    I actually have maps to all the structures.
    
    They are printed one the opposite side of the informational fold-out.
    
    Anyone else have these maps???
    
552.54XANADU::KREFETZSat Mar 30 1991 13:434
    re.-1
    
    >They are printed on the opposite side of the informational fold-out.
    Funny, the back of my informational fold-out is blank
552.55how do i recover health points with shieldGLDOA::IRIONSSat Mar 30 1991 16:102
    does anybody know how to use a shield of strenth to regain health
    points
552.56Fight for it!MANANA::KREFETZSat Mar 30 1991 18:166
    Spoiler:
    
    Use it as an item during battle.  The person using it will recover as
    many hit points as they would with Healmore.
    
    Benjamin
552.57Sword f DestructionCOEM::SCOPAI'd rather be in OrlandoSun Mar 31 1991 18:5415
    Ben,
    
    You have to send away for the maps. Look at the last page in your
    instruction booklet. It takes about a month to get them but they are
    worth it.
    
    * * * *
    
    Does anyone know how to unequip the Sword of Destruction? It is
    supposed to be the most powerful sword yet it holds a curse that
    freezes you occasionally when you use it.
    
    It didn't help me at all when I came across Malroth the other day.
    
    Mike_who_is_ever_so_close_to_finishing_DWII
552.58"If Thou art Cursed, Come Again."MANANA::KREFETZSun Mar 31 1991 22:497
    I realized I had to send away for the maps right after I entered the
    reply.  You unequip the Sword of Destruction by going to
    
    see a guy in Tantegel Castle (on the shores of sunny Alefgard).  He
    will uncurse you.
    
    Benjamin
552.59I got 2 papers w/cartridge!FSTTOO::HEMONDTHE AMERICAN HARPMon Apr 01 1991 13:047
    I must have been one of the lucky ones who received my maps inside the
    game cartridge box.  Actually I got two different papers, one with a
    large map of the whole area and some hints, and the second with
    information on the enemies, different equipment you can obtain, more
    clues and detailed maps of each cave, dungeon, castle etc.
    
    Nance (who finally made it through the Cave to Rhone now to Hargon)
552.60Book w/mapCOEM::SCOPAI'd rather be in OrlandoMon Apr 01 1991 19:535
    When I sent away for the map I also received a small colored booklet,
    similar, but not as thick, as the one packed in the Final Fantasy game
    box.
    
    Mike
552.61How wears what. Whats best?????SUBSYS::SCHNARECHARLIE SCHNARETue Apr 02 1991 20:418
    I have a couple of questions.
    
    1- What should I have in a way of charms to protect my group. I have
    got the dragons bane thing. I have seen several people mention some
    mink thing. What does this do???
    
    2- What weapons and armor are the best and who can hold what. I have
    All of edricks stuff ecept his armor.
552.62MANANA::KREFETZWed Apr 03 1991 00:195
    The dragon's bane, when equipped, will reduce the damage inflicted when
    an enemy chants a fire spell by 10-20 HP.  The mink (I just bought it
    today) serves as armor.
    
    Benjamin
552.63Take a CHANCE?XANADU::KREFETZThu Apr 04 1991 18:004
    At what level is the spell 'CHANCE' acquired, what does it do, and who
    acquires it (i.e. Prince of Cannock or Princess of Moonbroke)?
    
    Benjamin
552.64Princess - CHANCEFSTTOO::HEMONDTHE AMERICAN HARPFri Apr 05 1991 15:319
    I think the level is either 23 or 25.  The Princess (mine is PETA) is
    the one who will receive it.  The spell is just what it says "CHANCE".
    The two times I used it - 1. Increase & 2. Healmore.  Needless to say
    I haven't been using it since.  I did not need Healmore when I got that
    and ended up losing more magic points then if I had used the regular
    Healmore spell.
    
    Nance (Back inside the Cave to Rhone)
    
552.65DOn't use itCOEM::SCOPAI'd rather be in OrlandoFri Apr 05 1991 22:3117
    Ben (and everyone),
    
    I try not to use chance because what if it decides to use the
    "sacrifice" spell?
    
    And it's true..."chance" may use up quite a few magic points and that
    Wizard's Ring is not as good as the game would lead you to believe.
    
    * * * * *
    
    Dragon Warrior III hits the streets in July so finish up II before
    Summer.
    
    
    Mike
    
    Hey Ben...say hi to your father for me.
552.66How do you kill metal things.???SUBSYS::SCHNARECHARLIE SCHNARESat Apr 06 1991 16:108
    Way south od Midenhall there is a horeshoe shaped island north of
    Zahan.
    It is a great place to get experience because you bump into eight metal
    slime near the place you get off the ship. The problem is only my lead
    character can kill them. My others can't hurt them with weapons or
    spells. I haven't got sacrifice so that might work. Anyway just killing
    four give 919 experience. All eight would be about 20. Has anyone been
    able to come up with a strategy for beating metal creatures,????
552.67Get in there and FIGHTMANANA::KREFETZSun Apr 07 1991 01:138
    Just keep the lead character (mine's Dinidan) up and fighting.  Ifd the
    slimes don't put him to SLEEP, he should be able to kill one Metal
    Slime each round and get 460 or 689 Experience.  I've never killed more
    than five at a time (five give 1,148 Exp.).  This should work if your
    lead character is >=Level 17 and has Erdrick's Sword or the Dragon
    Slayer or the Thunder Sword.
    
    Benjamin
552.68How do you get the man to make the dress??SUBSYS::SCHNARECHARLIE SCHNARESun Apr 07 1991 19:373
    How do you get the weavber to make  the water cloth that is immune to
    fire attacks. I have thje magic loom but I don't know how to give it to
    him.
552.69Almost....but not quiteCOEM::SCOPAI'd rather be in OrlandoSun Apr 07 1991 22:4423
    Ya wanna hear something painful? I figured I'd jump into DW II on
    Saturday morn before my LL practice and lo and behold I beat Atlas,
    and the other dudes before reaching MAlroth.
    
    I DEFEAT....that's right DEFEAT Malroth so I head back to Maidenhall
    where I figure the big finale is going to happen. I get there and
    everything is all set up for me. I strol up to the king with knights on
    each side of me.
    
    The king begins to speak and.............
    
    .......the game FROZE on me! It just stopped in the middle of the
    king's speech and froze the screen and gave a high pitch. I was late
    for LL so I shut the game off.
    
    After LL I tried it again....I was back to where I was before I had
    slain MALROTH. GRRRRRRRRRR.
    
    When you hit level 43 it takes mega experience points to go to the
    higher levels.
    
    
    Mike, Numer, and Ollisa
552.70RE .-2MANANA::KREFETZFri Apr 12 1991 12:3211
    You need the Magic Loom to get the Water Flying Cloth, but you also
    need
    
    the Dew's Yarn.  You can learn about its location in
    
    Tantegel Castle.  Also, once you get these items to Don Mahone, you
    will need to
    
    save the game and not continue your quest.
    
    Benjamin
552.71Frustrated in HaverhillWORDY::R_OWENSFri Apr 12 1991 16:513
    Need help - where is the magic cloak I need to float from the tower in
    the north to the tower in the south - I've seemingly looked everywhere 
    but can't find it. 
552.72A1VAX::KREFETZReality is the fiction we live by.Fri Apr 12 1991 17:245
    Try looking in the tower
    
    Southesat of Hamlin.
    
    Benjamin
552.73re .72WORDY::R_OWENSFri Apr 12 1991 17:291
    Thank you, thank you, thank you
552.74Dews yarn???????SUBSYS::SCHNARECHARLIE SCHNAREFri Apr 12 1991 20:336
    I have several questions.
    
    1- The dews yarn is in one of the two towers that are across from each
    other. Right??? If it is where the heck is it.
    
    
552.75XANADU::KREFETZFri Apr 12 1991 20:396
    On
    
    the 3rd floor of the North Tower of Dragon's Horn, its location may
    STAIR you in the face.
    
    Benjamin
552.78How do I get into the tower of the moon???SUBSYS::SCHNARECHARLIE SCHNAREMon Apr 15 1991 21:254
    There is an island that has the Tower of the moon on it but it is 
    surrounded by water. I need to obtain the moon object but  how the heck
    do I get into this  place. I have tried everything. Please a
    MAJOR SPOILER would be a GREAT  HELP.
552.79moon fragmentMCIS2::OPR_FOWLERtry solving Rubic's HyperCubeMon Apr 15 1991 22:538
>    There is an island that has the Tower of the moon on it but it is 
>    surrounded by water. I need to obtain the moon object but  how the heck
>    do I get into this  place. I have tried everything. Please a
>    MAJOR SPOILER would be a GREAT  HELP.

    you need to obtain the moon fragment to raise the shallow waters
    and allow your vessel to pass.
    
552.80Cave to/of ??? Rhone??SUBSYS::SCHNARECHARLIE SCHNAREThu Apr 18 1991 20:496
       I have got the eye of Malroth and Ribiss charm. I have used the eye
    of malroth and I get into a cave where I obtain the life crest and
    Edricks armor. Is that all? I have gone through it at least a hundred
    times. Is there a way through it?
    /help
    
552.81help with Rhone caveMCIS2::OPR_FOWLERJohn Fowler MRO/CISFri Apr 19 1991 01:5831
    re.-1
    
>       I have got the eye of Malroth and Ribiss charm. I have used the eye
>    of malroth and I get into a cave where I obtain the life crest and
>    Edricks armor. Is that all? I have gone through it at least a hundred
>    times. Is there a way through it?
    
    <spoilers!>
    
    
    The Thunder sword is also in the cave. To find it you must fall down
    the pit trap located in the south-west corner of the very large room
    with one set of stairs in the north-east.
    
    To get throw the cave is a bit tricky. One wrong turn sends you several
    sections back to where you stared. I'm going on memory here but I
    believe you want to get to the room with alot of pit traps and columns
    and go north all the way then east to the stairs going up. When (if?)
    you make it that far you want to go east to T section, east again, lower
    eastward passage, north, take west northern passage at the fork, go east
    at the last T section and up the stairs.
    
    If you make it to Rhone head strait for the monolith and SAVE! I did
    not make it one time and boy did I scream. Good luck.
    
    Also, has anyone ever received the Dragon's Potion for killing a
    metal babble? I diced up several dozen with no luck. I was able to
    solve the game but I still wanted to see that potion do it's stuff.
    
    John
    
552.82Thankyou very much!SUBSYS::SCHNARECHARLIE SCHNAREFri Apr 19 1991 10:276
    Thanks gretly for your help and I have got the Dragons Potion. I
    haven't used it yet because I think I might want to use it later on in
    the game.
    
    /mike
    
552.83CHANCE is neat. {If you use it enough times}SUBSYS::SCHNARECHARLIE SCHNARESun Apr 21 1991 19:3318
    If you use CHANCE enough times you do say several new spells.
    One of them is a super HEAL. All the people in your party are each
    healed with this spell. Also it chants a spell of confusion. This makes
    one enemy attack other enemies. And the third spell is a great
    sorcerors call. This just makes all the enemys run away. In all the
    spell of CHANCE is still not worth all the magic points but if your
    playing for fun or experience it isn't all that bad. Another thing-
    CHANCE will not ever pick SACRIFICE for a spell.
    
    PS- Would anyone like to let me have their map that they sent away for
    because I am really stuck in the cave of rhone and all the traps are
    driving me up the wall. I just can't seem to find my way out into rhone. 
    
    I will pay a reasonable price lets say about $4.
    
    /thanks- Mike
    
    price for it. Thanks 
552.84Where, Oh Where, hHas My Dew's Yarn Gone?MANANA::KREFETZFri Apr 26 1991 23:3610
    I do not seem to be able to get the Dew's Yarn twice (i.e. I already
    got it and got the Water Flying Cloth, but the tip book (the one you
    send away for from the back of the instruction booklet) said you can
    get it twice), but I was able to get the Magic Loom twice.  However, I
    need to recollect the Dew's Yarn, too before I can get another Water
    Flying Cloth.  I have searched every patch of land on the third floor
    of Dragon's Horn North, even the stairs, but with no luck.  Any help
    would be appreciated.  Thanx.
    
    Benjamin
552.85JARETH::EDPAlways mount a scratch monkey.Mon Apr 29 1991 10:578
    Re .84:
    
    Finding the Dew's Yarn is somewhat random; you have to keep moving
    around until you get it.  Note that you need to get a Water Flying
    Cloth made from the first Dew's Yarn before you can get the second.
    
    
    				-- edp
552.86XANADU::KREFETZMon Apr 29 1991 19:016
    Re .85:
    
    Do you mean that once you have the Water Flying Cloth (which I do),
    sometimes the Dew's Yarn is there and sometimes it isn't?
    
    Benjamin
552.87JARETH::EDPAlways mount a scratch monkey.Tue Apr 30 1991 10:5713
    Re .86:
    
    I don't think the Dew's Yarn is actually ever "there" until you have
    actually found it.  That is, it is not the case that the Dew's Yarn is
    assigned some location and just sits there until you find it.  Rather,
    I think that when you are walking around on the correct floor of the
    tower, then every time you take a step and search, the game gives you a
    one out of some number chance of finding the Yarn.  So you have to keep
    moving until you find it.  You might find it right away, or you might
    cover every square several times before you find it.
    
    
    				-- edp
552.88do you really need it.....FSTTOO::HEMONDTHE AMERICAN HARPWed May 01 1991 14:3110
    Re:
    
    Dews yarn - do yourself a favor and don't bother trying to get a second
    water flying cloak.  Buy the mink coat for your princess & let your
    prince wear the 1st cloak.  I wasted 2 nights worth of playing looking
    for the Dew's yarn a second time - never was able to get it!  Finished
    the game without it.
    
    Nance (now back to Crystalis - at the Pyramid)
    
552.89How do you beat Malroth??SUBSYS::SCHNARECHARLIE SCHNAREMon May 13 1991 20:516
    I have everything and have arrived at Malroth. The problem is is that
    he WASTES me. I mean really creams me. My lead character is at level
    39. What is a strategy for beating malroth??
    
    /mike
    
552.90looking for mr. rubiss...ASDS::SEGERthis space intentionally left blankTue May 28 1991 11:2016
I've managed to get into the cave I believe the Charm of Rubiss is in (the one
you need the moon crest to get into)...

I couldn't find anything within the immediate cave, except at the lowest level
I could see another section I could not gain access to.  I'm assuming that 
there is some "trick" one needs to employ to get there.  I've tried searching
in a number of places, but so far have not had any luck.  Rather than spend a
LOT of time searching the entire place and not succeeding, I post a couple of
questions (hoping for minimal spoilers):

	o	is there indeed a way to get into that other section?
	o	is searching the answer?
	o	could it be an item I need?
	o	is this simple a cruel ruse?

-mark
552.91MRCSSE::SWETTTue May 28 1991 12:264
    
    Does this have a battery/password feature?
    
    
552.92ASDS::SEGERthis space intentionally left blankTue May 28 1991 14:483
its battery, not password...

-mark
552.93Rubiss CubissMANANA::KREFETZTue May 28 1991 19:087
    The Charm of Rubiss is located...
    
    on a one-block island south of Midenhall and north of Osterfair.  Once
    in the monolith, descend to the bottom, search all squares, and, if you
    have all five crests, the Charm of Rubiss will be revealed to you.
    
    Benjamin
552.94they LIED!!!ASDS::SEGERthis space intentionally left blankMon Jun 10 1991 11:0416
Having spent many days stumped in Rhone (if you get there I'm sure you'll know
what I'm talking about), I finally got in to see the big guy.  How did I do
it?  My son called the Nintendo help line!

Based on their answer I felt compelled to write this note and tell people that
the hints that came with the game LIED!!!

There is a hint that says you need an item that you already have since you made
it this far.  Since lots of items could have been sold or thrown away, there
are really only 2 one must have to have gotten to Rhone.  Well that just ain't
so.

-mark
<spoiler follows>

You need either the jailer's key or the open spell...
552.95Can't Even Find the PrincessCSOA1::AYLWARDBrian Aylward, Ohio Valley DWTMon Jul 01 1991 16:0919
    I must be missing something, because everyone in this note is a lot
    farther than I have been able to get.  I choose to attribute it to the
    lack of a map...
    
    
    
    I have only 1 key (silver) and am stuck finding the princess.  I have
    been to the burned castle and been told to find a mirror and have been
    to the tower close by and gotten the cape that helps me when I jump.
    
    But I cannot find the princess, and I also think I should have the gold
    key by now.  Obviously, without the princess I cannot get into the
    next section of the game since the bridge keeper will not let me pass
    without saving her.
    
    Any help?
    
    BJA
    
552.96XANADU::KREFETZTue Jul 02 1991 19:109
    Look for the Mirror of RA:
    
    East (right) of the burnt castle (Moonbroke), you will find four
    bridges (they should all be on the screen).  Search the swamp.  Then,
    visit a friendly dog in Hamlin, and, while facing it, use the Mirror. 
    You can't get the gold key w/out a ship, which is obtainable in
    Lianport.
    
    Benjamin
552.97How Many Crests Before I Head for RhoneCSOA1::AYLWARDBrian Aylward, Ohio Valley DWTWed Jul 10 1991 11:199
    I have 2 of the crests (moon and I think star) and am getting set to
    enter the road to Rhone.  Should I have more already?
    
    
    I am aware that the life crest is inside the cave, so I am not worried
    about it.  It is the others I am wondering if I should already have.
    
    BJA
    
552.985 to 1 for RhoneFSTVAX::HEMONDTHE AMERICAN HARPWed Jul 10 1991 13:227
    Brian,
    
    I believe my son had all 5 crests and had turned them into the special
    thing you need in Rhone.  I'll double check with him tonight and get
    back to you.
    
    Nance (who is stuck in the Great Pyramid in Crystalis)
552.99Everything but Water CrestCSOA1::AYLWARDBrian Aylward, Ohio Valley DWTThu Jul 11 1991 15:1215
    I did some more hunting around and re-reading clues from townspeople
    and have now found all crests with the exception of the water crest. 
    From clues I have read I believe that
    
    
    I will need the Echoing Flute (which I have) and I need to be looking
    in a tower or monolith somewhere.  But I have looked quite a bit
    through towers and monoliths with no success.  Is it possible I am
    looking in the wrong tower, or that my character needs to blow the
    flute?  Right now, Lars is doing it.
    
    Hints and leads appreciated...
    
    BJA
    
552.100Oswarg+Oswarg=2 OswargXANADU::KREFETZFri Jul 12 1991 20:103
    Have you found any doors in Hamlin??
    
    Benjamin
552.101A TIP FOR DRAGON WARIOR IICLT::XAPPL::RODGERSNothing is written.Sat Jul 13 1991 21:096
   Once is a enough!!           		                       	         		                                           
    Hargon's Castle is the sight of your final battle agasint evil.You
    won't defeat them all on a first try!!If you kill ATALS,BAZUZA,ZORLOCK         
             YOU WILL NEVER SEE THEM AGAIN!!
                                           .
                                          \/
552.102Can't do anything19120::HARVEYLabor omnia vincti..VergilMon Aug 26 1991 16:257
    
    
    	I made it to Rhone, however, what do I do now?? I can't
    	find any way into the castle...HELP!!!!!
    
    	thanks
    	rth
552.103I found out19120::HARVEYLabor omnia vincti..VergilMon Aug 26 1991 16:396
    
    	.102
    
    	never mind....I found out how.
    
    	rth
552.104Wheres the gold key?SALISH::WALKER_ROThu Jan 09 1992 16:2814
    I rented the game this weekend but could never find the gold key.
    I was able to get all over the game but couldn't enter the gates.
    I found the town on the island, saw the dog move, searched all over,
    and gave it up.  I had to return the game but would like to rent it
    again this weekend.
    
    I know it has to be something simple since nobody in the 100 replys
    to this note had this problem.
    
    
    If I can't get any help I will have to play Final Fantasy II for the 
    third time.
    
    						Roger Walker
552.105Woof WoofXANADU::KREFETZThu Jan 09 1992 19:171
    Try talking to a dog in Zahan.
552.106Moon fragement and others?HOTWTR::WALKER_ROMon Jan 13 1992 15:276
    Thanks for the help.  I'm stuck looking for the moon fragemnt, the sun
    and the town of Tuhn.  I'd keep trying but since it is a rental if I
    get stuck or too long it costs too much to keep.  Any explicit help
    would be appreciated.
    
    						Roger Walker
552.107Trouble uncursing the sword of destructionPTOVAX::SNOWSun Feb 16 1992 18:1325
    Having a little trouble with the sword of destruction.  
    
    
    I have obtained my third (no I'm not kidding).  I tried to figure out
    to uncurse it, and remembered the Wiz at the castle (forgot it's name).
    But the Wiz just says it to hard to uncurse.  So I tried the Healer,
    and he said it was uncursed.  By the time I notice that the sword was
    gone, I had already saved once.  So, when I got the second sword, I 
    paid closer attention, and sure enough, it was the uncursing that
    removed the sword.  So, here I sit with my third sword.  Tried the Wiz
    multiple times.  Tried without equiping the sword (tells me to come
    back when I'm cursed).  Tried with the sword equip'd (tells me that he
    has not the skill).  Tried "Using" the sword when facing the guy. Tried 
    uncursing after using the sword successfully in battle, no change.  So 
    then I tried the notesfile, which told me to see this guy.
    
    What am I doing wrong?  Do I have to be more experianced?  Do you have
    to start with easier curses?  Do you need the Wizard's Ring, or some
    other dependancy?  If you have uncursed the sword of destruction, tell
    me what you did (using little words :).
    
    BTW, what is the other guy in the castle (who seems to bless you) all
    about?
    
    ed
552.108XANADU::KREFETZMon Feb 17 1992 12:414
    The guy in the castle who seems to bless you
    restores your MPs free of charge.
    
    Benjamin