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Title:Nintendo Game Systems
Notice:Please enter Super NES notes in Yuppy::Super_NES.
Moderator:RUSURE::EDP
Created:Tue Oct 20 1987
Last Modified:Mon Feb 03 1997
Last Successful Update:Fri Jun 06 1997
Number of topics:847
Total number of notes:11602

444.0. "Need schematic of joystick" by SHARE::DOYLE () Mon Apr 09 1990 12:44

  Does anyone know the schematic for the basic controlers that come with the
 Nintendo, I'd like to modify one to work on my Amiga... 
  My son,(who's 3) has a hard time with adult sized joysticks, and my brother 
 (who has nintendo), would rather use this type, since he's use to it.

						Thanks 
							Ed
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444.1CSSE::MILLERReal toys have coinslots!Mon Apr 09 1990 18:0468
This should help (taken from Usenet....)

Newsgroups: rec.games.video
Path: decwrl!labrea!Portia!hobbes
Subject: NES Pinout
Posted: 24 Sep 88 18:47:36 GMT
Organization: Stanford University
 
Pinout for the NES game controllers
	-----
    Gnd | 1  \
  Clock | 2 5 | Vcc (+5)
  Load  | 3 6 | NC for controller
Ser/Out | 4 7 | NC for controller
        -------
 
Pin    Color    Signal
1	Brown	Gnd
2       Red	clock		Input
3	Orange	Parallel Load   Input
4	Yellow	Serial Output	Output
5	White	Vcc (+5)
 
The NES uses a 4021 Parallel Load Serial Out chip to transfer the 
controller information to the console.  The console provides
Vcc, Gnd, a Parallel load signal, and a Clock for the serial output.
The controller sends the status of the 8 switches in a serial stream
back to the console.  
 
The switches are read every 21 ms for Super Mario Brothers.  (This might
be different for different games, but shouldn't be critical if the 
supplied clocks are used).
 
 
Load
            -
           | |
           | |
	---- -------------------------------------------------------------
 
Clock
        ------  -   -   -   -   -   -   -   ------------------------------
             | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | |
             | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | |
              -   -   -   -   -   -   -   -
 
 
Serial out	Order of switches
              A   B  sel strt ^   v   <   >
 
Switches produce +5 when not pushed, Gnd when pushed.
 
Period of each clock pulse is roughly 15 microseconds.
 
 
 Connections for 4021
      A 1	16 Vcc	
     NC 2	15 B
Ser/out 3	14 Select
      ^ 4	13 Start
      v 5	12 NC
      < 6	11 Gnd
      > 7	10 Clock
    Gnd 8	 9 Parallel Load
 
 
Andrew Zimmerman
zimmer@umunhum.stanford.edu
444.2no go amicaORT::ORTHOBERThu Jun 21 1990 01:498
	Forget it.  The Amiga I am sure has either linear or contact
	joysticks.  Too much electronics would be needed to get it
	working with the amiga....

thanks
ort1
444.3Keeping it simple...SHARE::DOYLEThu Jun 21 1990 19:395
    You're right, I had to cut out the chip in the controler, and solder a 
    Amiga-Style 9 pin Joystick cord into the chip holes....
     Works great!
    								Ed
444.4Feedback to controller.AIMTEC::WARRENS_RKill Capital Punishment!Tue Nov 19 1991 20:0310
    I don't know scematics, but a descriptive answer would be helpful. can
    the controller be provided with a feedback signal. Something that might
    drive a LED on the controller or a beep. that type of thing?
    
    How much feedback signal could be sent, just an on/off or more. In
    either case could the controller be intelligent enough to decode a
    sequence of feedback messages to display or activate more circuits?
    
    thanks
    randy