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    Could you give a description of this game (and a rating).  Also, how
    does this game compare to wizards and warriors I?  Does it have a 
    password?   
    
    Thanks,
    
    Ron.

    Re .1:
    
    Yes, it has a password.  As for a description, it seems similar to
    Wizards and Warriors, so far.  That is, it seems faithful in how it
    plays.  There are four new areas, in two sections each, with some sort
    of final area I have not seen.  The sections have various hidden rooms,
    non-hidden rooms, et cetera.  In addition to life, you can collect
    bubbles that give you magic power. There are various spells to find or
    buy that let you slow down enemies, create a waterspout to lift you up,
    et cetera. 
    
    
    				-- edp 

    Re .1:
    
    It is better and harder than Wizards and Warriors.  It is expensive,
    but the type of game that you want play a lot.  By the way, found the 
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    re .2 and .3
    
    Thanks,  I enjoyed W&W I, but I thought that it was too easy...
    I think I'll try this one as a rental.
    
    Ron.

    
    This is a hard game. There is a lot of searching around that needs to
    be done. You can visit a shop and play a gambling game or buy what the
    keeper has in stock. Each level has a golden item which you need to get
    to accomplish something. You have to beat 4
    elementals,earth,fire,air,water{I think.}  You nedd to look around for
    treasure rooms that are invisible because you are not always able to
    find all the money you need in chests. The graphics are better in the
    second on ethan the first. I would rate it 8+. I am having trouble in
    the forest so could someone give me pointers.

    Charlie,
    
    I agree. Tough game, but it plays true to the original (at least
    to where I've gotten thusfar).
    
    Specifically, where are you stuck in the forest?? I don't want to
    give tooooo much away!! ;-)
    
    Ted

    Has anyone finished this game??  The best I can do at the end is
    kill one elemental with three left to go.  I must be missing 
    something but I don't know what.
    
    Need help........
    
    Greggers

    Ditto here. If there's a hidden shop somewhere on that mountain
    to buy food or lives, I can't find it. If I'm lucky I can get one
    and a half elementals. Can't seem to figure out a strategy to stay
    alive long enough.
    
    All hints/spoilers welcome.
    
    Ted

    		I found this game fairly easy.  Once you get the hang
    of it you just roll right along, getting to the elementals is a
    lot harder than defeating it.                                  
             my hints :                                            
              play the bones ,get lots of magic, bump on the sides of
    clouds on the wind elemental,don't open the chest in the botom right
    until you are ready(in the forest)check for walls that you can pass
    through,don't go into any rooms when you have the spell to defeat
    the elemental.                                                 
                           how do you hurt the earth elemental(by the
    way I got to the earth inone day)with the earthscorch spell? In
    the mouth ,eyes what?please tell me
    

    re:9
    
    Shut that guys big mouth....timing
    
    Greg

    
      Re:.7 +.8
    
          I'm having the same problem with the Ice Mountain.I can destroy
    the first elemental,but die soon afterwards.Is there a place on any of
    the 3 peaks where an extra life appears?Any spoiler would be welcome..
    
                       R.B.
    
      

    Re: .7, .8, .11
    
    I went back and redid everything this time making sure I had all
    the magics available AND both the diamond shield and diamond helmut.
    I can now get through two elementals fairly easily, but still can't
    figure the trick to stay alive longer (though the magics are now
    available for multiple usage). 
    
    My question now is has ANYONE gotten further and if they have, how.
    Secondly, at some times I've gotten diamonds on Ice Mountain. If
    there's no shop why should I get them??
    
    HELP PLEASE!!!
    
    Ted
    

    
      Re:.12
    
           I replayed the stage prior to Ice mountain to pick up a few
     extra lives.The store that I found was at the bottom of Ice mountain.
     I gambled and bought the diamond shield.I still haven't been able to
     kill more than one elemental.I found that the hits are more consistent
     when the elemental is off the screen to the right.Are there any
     mystery doors on any of the peaks?I haven't found any....
    
                         R.B.
    
     P.S. I found the game easy to this stage....but the ending is another
        story!

     
           Mild spoiler is needed!  I can't get out of the first level,
    I think that I have every thing that I need Several magic spells,
    a, sword found in one of the rooms, the gold egg and a ton of money.
     I played wizards and warriors, it took me about 12 hours to get
    through it. Reason being that I couldn't find the key to get into
    the castle. any way I get get any farther than I am, just jumping
    around on the out side..... Forget the mild spoiler I need a major
    one.
    
    
       mike_b
     

    Re .14:
    
    You need to take the egg to the bird.  The bird is hard to get to.  Try
    to get as far as you can in this direction:
    
    the upper left.
    
    
    				-- edp

    RE:15
    
     Thanks!!!  I found that out about 3 hours after putting my plea
    for help in. Now it's like I'm stuck in the woods. I've road that
    water spout so much that I feel like I'm water logged. I've been
    all over the place trying to find the fly, for the king Frog...
    No luck..... Just keep stabbing those frogs and swinging through
    the trees.
    
    
    mike_b
    

    
      Do not ride the waterspout until you are at a point near the top
    of the tree at the right of the screen.You will know which tree it is
    as you can not get to the top.......use the waterspout here...what you
    are looking for resides at the very top.
    
    
                                 R.B.
    
                                    

    Hmmmmmm, little activity going on here. Is everyone in the final
    stage as frustrated as I am?? My "best" is 2 3/4 elementals and
    I can't seem to find a way to last longer.
    
    Out of curiosity are we all using the same password in the final
    stage and secondly is anyone close to beating this game.
    
    Ted

    RE: 17
    
    Thanx for the help, I made it throught the water, vulcano, fire,
    and now I'm stuck in this cave with bats and what looks like these
    clowns shooting the &$%^& out of me. I have to reuse the pasword
    that gives me two swords inorder to get anywhere. Even that doesn't
    seem like enough. I found almost enough gems but not enough to buy
    an extra life. I found the band, but I get the mess beat out of
    me, and wind up dying before I can make it back to the store. 
    
       This is a rental and needless to say we try to beat these things
    within a couple of days. So, what I'm trying to say again is!!!
     
    
    
    
    
    
    
    
    
                                  HELP!!!!!!!
    
                      Where is the cup.... Please Please
                                                 
    
    
    mr_frustrated
    

    Mr. Frustrated,
    
    If you've got a rental then you're in BIG trouble. This thing gets
    even more frustrating!!
    
    However, here goes.
    
    <spoiler>
    
    
    
    
    
    
    
    
    
    
    
    
    
    
    To get to the mug: from the door you start at go right and up. go
    halfway across and come down to where you can go across to the left
    andUNDER where you started. Do NOT go all the way to the bottom.
    As you walk across you will barely see the top of the mug inbedded
    in the rock. You must figure out how to get the mug out of the rock.
    
    
    
    
    
    
    
    
    
    
    
    
    
    
    
    <major spoiler>
    
    
    
    
    
    
    
    
    
    
    
    
    
    
    
    
    Try jumping up and down on one of the small "step rocks" near the
    mug.
    
    Suggestion....keep checking the password for changes. You'll need
    multiple lives to get through the next level and building up the
    5000 (I think) gems takes too long. The password will change so
    that you can start with 3 lives and there is a Kuros doll you can
    pick up for a fourth. That is sufficient to get through.
    
    Hope it helps.
    
    Ted

    Has anybody finished?  I've joined you at the Fire-Ice Mountain and
    getting killed by the elementals.  Any tricks?  Any great passwords? 
    (I've got only one life.)
    
    
    				-- edp

    
       I've got to go back a couple of areas and try to enter the last
    level with more lives.I've only been able to kill 2 elementals before
    being killed.I was hoping that a kuros is located somewhere on the
    mountains to gain lives,but I can't find one.
    
    
                        R.B.

	I just started this game and promptly got stuck - I cannot
	seem to find a path to where I want to go.  I'm curently in the
	clouds and want to get to the upper left corner and work my way
	across to the upper right corner.  Can anybody offer some hints?
	I'd sure appreciate them right now!!
	Thanks,
		*D*

    I called Nintendo; they could offer nothing to help on the Fire and Ice
    Mountain except to go back to earlier levels and get through again with
    more lives left.
    
    This game just moved to my "don't play" list.
    
    
    				-- edp

	It never fails - as soon as I put a note in here asking for help,
	I end up working/finding the answer that evening.  I got the
	helmet, windspell, defeated the wind elemental, and now in the
	forest looking for the golden fly to give to the frog king.  Is
	it out in the open or is it a chest?  And I am guessing the it will
	be near the top as I haven't found it near the bottom.  How come
	every time you go in a door, you lose whatever spell(s) you had
	up to that point?  Is this just my game or is it a deliberate
	thing?

	Thanks,
			*D*

    Re .25:
    
    I've never observed spells disappearing when you go in a door.  They do
    disappear after a couple of uses; maybe that's what's happened to you?
    
    To reach the golden fly, you need to use a spell.  I think there are
    notes about the forest area earlier in this topic, but ask again if you
    need help.
    
    
    				-- edp

    	Hello,

      I have just gotten a Nintendo system for myself and picked this game
    up in a bargain bin. Being new to all this I am having a terrible time
    getting past the first level. If someone could help me just get off
    that darn mountain I would be most grateful.



    					Thanks,

    					   Joe

	Re. .26 I got the golden fly last night and also did away
	with the water elemental, gave the golden crown to the dragon and
	met and defeated the fire elemental.  Question - when I get a password
	like after defeating the fire elemental and going into that room
	with no lives left - whenever I use that password will I always have
	no lives left?  Is there a way to get more lives before I croak in
	the room?  This is a good game!!

	Thanks,
				*D*

    Re .28:
    
    A given password will always start you off with the same number of
    lives.  But you can get a better password by going to one of your
    earlier passwords and playing through a round again until you finish
    the round with more lives left.
    
    In some places, you can:
    
    	Enter password.
    	Go to certain location and get extra life.
    	Write down new password.
    	Repeat above three steps a few times.
    
    That will get you up to three lives, which is the most a password will
    give you.  When you start a game with such a password, you can also go
    to the location and get another extra life.  You cannot get a new
    password with that extra extra life, but you can play the game with it.
    
    
    				-- edp

	I spent at least 5 hours last night bouncing around and banging
	my head into every place that I could think of in search of a
	hidden room but to no avail. I am looking for the Golden Tankard
	that the bear wants.  I am in the cavern where the bear is in a
	cave that is at the bottom.  Could some kind soul PLEASE give me
	a hint as to where this item is??  Also, there is a door that I am
	not able to enter.  Is this beause I need to have something in my
	possesion before entering or is this door just there to irk me??
	Please, please, please, please, please, please someone help me...

	Thanks,
				*D*

    
    
        Try going to an area that has a dead end tunnel with a cave.The
     Tankard is just visible on the floor of the cave.Jump up and down a
      few times and the tankard will rise......
    
    
                                    R.B.

    has anyone beat this game yet?? I share most everyone's opinions on 
    this game. I found getting to Fire Ice Moutain was fairly easy, but the
    ending is very difficult. I have not even been able to defeat one of
    the elementals.
    
    all in all, I'm kind of dissappointed with the game. The worst part
    is, I had originally gone out to buy SMB III, but the store was out
    of them, so my wife talked me into IS. I liked the first one better.
    
    once again, has anyone beat the game yet?? 
    

     < Try going to an area that has a dead end tunnel with a cave.The
     Tankard is just visible on the floor of the cave.Jump up and down a
      few times and the tankard will rise......>
    
    My thanks for the above info however just jumping othe floor did no
    good - what I did was jump around and found that 1 of the ledges was
    the magic place to jump.  NOW I am trying to figure out HOW to get to 
    fire/ice mountain with more than 1 life.  If anyone has any answers
    or passwords to share I know there are plenty of us in the same boat
    at this point in time...

	*D*

    Boy the ending sounds pretty hard...I'm just on the Volcano mountain.
    
    One question...how do I get to all the area's on volcano mountain?
    I enter a door and slide down, without being able to move.  There are
    no "sticky foot" spells are there?  A hint would be appreciated, Thx.
    
    I noticed something strange with my game...might be a spoiler...
    
    <Spoiler Form Feed>
    
    
    I made it all the way to the forest and decided to save my game, 
    so I went into the 'King Frog' room (without the gold fly) and 
    wrote down my password.  When I used the password the following night, 
    I was through the bottom of the floor on my way to the water elemental.
    
    I wonder if this works in other places?
    
    Ron.

    
    
        RE:.34 
    
         If my memory serves me correct,is that the place that the object
     to be gathered can be seen at the bottom right of the screen when you
     slide down?The way I proceeded was to slide down and at the last
     moment before the path spits I jumped over to the other pathway.It
     took me a few tries to master this.Give it a shot.
    
    
                               Randy

    
       Has anyone finished this game?Or deserted it in frustration?
    
                        Randy
    

    Randy,
    
    Nope still working on it. My best is three of the elementals. I just
    can't seem to figure any trick out on this one. How about you??
    
    Ted

    
      Ted,
    
                I gave up long ago and sold the game....I like games that
      do not frustrate me.This one did when I got to the end.
    
                        Randy
    

    re .36
    
    Randy like almost everyone else I've gotten 3 elementals can't seem
    to get any further.  Have gone back to finish Faxanadu instead of
    getting totally frustrated.

    
      The latest Nintendo magazine lists a password that gives you 3 lives
    going into the ending.I'll post it in the morning.
    
                   R.B.

    Re: -1
    
    R.B.
    
    Please.....please....please post it so I can put this aggravation back
    in the box where it belongs!!  :-)
    
    Ted

    
      Sorry.....I've been suffering brainskip! I'll try to remember to
    bring it in tomorrow. You should be able to win with this hint. It
    also works at any level you are at when you do not have 3 men...Give
    this a shot tonight and see if this is right...I'll post the correct
    one tomorrow.....
    
            The 5th letter from the left in the password is your "lifes"
        level. I believe that if you change it to a "n" it will give you
        the extra lives. Give it a shot!
    
                          Randy
    
    

    
      Is it tomorrow.....actually I called a friend who has the same
    magazine....Here's the code..
    
           NWTMNPLWNNB    or change your code's 5th letter to an "N"
      either way works..
    
                            Randy
    
    

    Randy,
    
    Many many thanks. I'll videotape the cartridge burning for you after I
    complete the game!!! ;-)
    
    Ted

    
      Don't burn it......I sold my cartridge a few months back before
    completing it. Let me try it before you burn it!
    
              Randy
    
    

    Randy,
    
    Could you check on that password again for me please?? I left it at
    home and unless I copied it down wrong, I'm one letter short. I'll even
    let you try the game out before the burning. There's an offer you can't
    refuse. ;-)
    
    Ted

    
       I'll check tonight.....Did you try changing the 5th letter in the
    code you had at the last level to an "N"?
    
                                  Randy
    
    

    
        I just got off the phone ........just change the 5th character to
    an "N". This will give the 3 men. I think the code I listed back a few
    replies may have been just an example. Let me know...
    
    
                     Randy
    

    Randy,
    
    Will do and I'll let you know tomorrow. Thanks.
    
    Ted

    
       Well.......did the password work ?
    
                   Randy
    

    Randy,
    
    Unfortunately, Dec's been making me work. Full attack is scheduled for
    this weekend.
    
    Ted

    
      Using the last code I recorded prior to selling my game the first
     time and reentering the code with additional men I have managed to
      wipe out 2 elementals in 3 tries at the code. I think at this point
     I am going to reply the entire game and see what happens when I get
     to the end again.
    
                           R.B.

    
      This game is frustrating! I replayed the game from the beginning to
    the end on Saturday ..well almost to the end. After 3 hours I could do
    no better than eliminate 2 of the 4 Elementals on the mountain. Has
    anyone beat this game yet?
    
                             R.B.

    
    I just bought this yesterday. Now I see that nobody seems to be able to
    beat it. What's the story???? Did I waste my money? I'm not a great
    nintendo junkie yet. I just beat Zelda and wanted another adventure
    type. I chose this over Metroid and I think I made a mistake. I did
    make it into the clouds last night.
    
    tom
    

    
    Any hints as to the location of the windbane spell? I have a sword and
    a helmet. Even found the book of Sindarin. Located the elemental. Can't
    find that spell. I am in the clouds. Did I miss better weapons or armor
    down below? Is there more and better in the clouds that I haven't
    found? 
    
    tom
    

    
    
    OK people. Has anyone beaten this???? I have to know if it's beatable.
    I got past all 4 elementals. I am know on the fire/ice mountain.
    
                                                 
    
    What now????? There is no way, it seems, that I can beat all 4 of those
    suckers before I run out of life. Is there another way? Has anyone done
    it????? It seems almost impossible. Should I move on to Faxanadu????
    
    tom
    

    Can you elaborate on that move. I'm stuck at the same place. Climb to
    the top, open the door, fall all the way down to the bottom. Work my
    way back up etc etc etc.
    
    There is also an area, to the left, within the tunnel that has diamonds
    ....how do you get there ?
    
    bf