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    	Can anyone give this a review?  I've seen it in the stores but was
    uncertain if it was any good.
    							Ned
    

    I had it but sold it.  I started playing and quickly found myself in a
    LOT of different rooms.  It wasn't clear what the immediate goals were,
    which way I should go, or what.  I didn't feel like exploring and
    mapping without a more structured game than that, so I sold it.  Of
    course, I'm jaded because I've got some great games to play (on the
    Commodore and Sega systems, plus I've got Ultima waiting for me on
    Nintendo), so I may have passed up a fairly decent game.
    
    I would say don't buy it at the full price until somebody else enters a
    more detailed review than I can give it. 
    
    
    				-- edp 

    I enjoyed ULTIMA (defeatd EXODUS) but can't get into this game.
     My son seems to enjoy this one better after he gave up on ULTIMA.
    
    I find LEGACY more unstructured than ULTIMA.  ULTIMA was far easier
    to map.  I'm still trying to determine the best way to map LEGACY.
     Maybe I'm just exhausted from ULTIMA and will pursue the crowns
    once my son gives me a chance.
    
    I'll pass on any hints he/we find.         

    How about a hint in locating any of the crowns.  What must one have
    to help get them.  We have wings, armor, pick, glove, rod, power
    boots, knuckles, elixer.

    The crowns are locked in chests.  Start looking for some that
    you haven't found yet.  If you need locations let me know.
    
    greggers

    We'll look harder, but while we look maybe you can pass on a little
    hint or direction.  We've open a lot of chests.
    

    From the begining go down two areas to the bottom.  Go the right
    till you see a chest that you can not get to but you can see 
    above you.  Then work your way up
    
    greggers

    Really need help from the beginning of this one.  I rented the tape
    from a nearby video store.  When I start the game, I choose a
    character.  After that I am suppose to be able to choose items to
    use within the game.  The instructions say to go to the item and
    press the A button and the item will be placed into your inventory.
     When I do this, nothing happens!!!  Am I doing something wrong???
    Also, at the end of the first level, there are two chests above
    me, how can I get to them???  I've tried going back and walking
    along upper levels of the stones, but can only get so far!!!  Any
    help would be greatly appreciated (spoilers too!!!!) 
    
    I am really getting aggrivated but want to play this game.  I found
    a glove in a chest on the next level down, but when I go to try
    and retrive it in inventory, I can't do anything.  I only have it
    for this evening and then have to return it tomorrow.  If I can
    finally start getting somewhere, I may purchase this one.
    
    Thanks in advance for any and all help.
    
    Mary-Ann
    

    .-1
    Only certain characters can use certain tools.  Also some ones has
    to have found the tool to be able to be used.  If the number is
    0 you don't have it.  If you knew that no insult intended but I
    try not to assume anything.
    

    I understand that at the beginning of the game, if the number under
    the item is blue, you cannot use that item, but if it is white you
    can.  See if I'm getting this straight.  At the beginning, I cannot
    choose any of the items, but as I go along and find them, then I
    can load them into my inventory and use them???
    
    Also, any help on getting those chests at the end on level one???
    
    BTW, no insult taken, thanks for your help!!!!!
    

    I think you've got it straight.  The item will only be white if
    that character can use the item.
    

    I think we found the chest you mentioned but it didn't contain a
    crown.
    
    Do you need a specific character to find a crown in that chest?
    
    Maybe we need a bigger hint or even a ****spoiler*****.
    
    I'm beginning to believe this game is more fun letting my son play
    it while I try to get some clues.   I might even get to like the
    game.
    

    I'll try to explain a little better....it's been awhile
    
    
    
    
    
    
    
    
    
    
    
    
    
    
    
    
    
    
    
    
    
    When you first enter the dungeon go all the way to the bottom where
    the inn is.  From there go right till you come to the next section.
    In the begining of this section there is one of those king looking
    creatures (don't remember what they're called) walking under some
    blocks.  Right above you is a chest and lion guard this is the spot
    you need to get to for the first crown.  Getting there is a little
    rough but since you have the wings (you know who to use for that)
    it shouldn't be to hard.  When I get home tonite I'll check and
    make a quick map to all the crowns in case you need any more spoilers.
    One at a time right? :^)
    
    good luck
    greggers

    Thanks, Let me try this one.  When frustration overwhelms me I'll
    ask for the next one.
    
    I don't have too much more hair to give up over this game.
    
    My Kingdom for a CROWN!!!
    

    -.2
    
    GREGGERS!!!!
    
    
    Please, Please,PLEASE!!!!  May I have a copy of that map also (location
    of crowns)
    
    Encountered some problems last night.  I chose the father to go
    through everything.  I finally got enough strength (3) to put the
    glove into my inventory (after finding one in a chest).  I tried
    to go into sub-screen to use this glove to move some blocks, but
    I couldn't use it at all.  What am I doing wrong????
    
    I am really confused on this one, but on the other hand really
    interested in it.  
    
    Please help.   Many, Many thanks.
    
    Mary-Ann
    

    Greggers---ME TOOOO!!!!!!
    	
    I bought this as a treat for my bride, especially since it has a
    password feature. Please help me secure domestic tranquility and
    send me a copy of the map.
    
    Thanks!!!!
    				Blues
    

    I'd love to have a map, too - can't seem to find my way to some of
    those areas that I can see!
    
    Would like a hint also on the location of the glove ...
    
    Thanks,
    
    ..........steve
    

    Need a SPOILER on how to get to ANY crowns.
    
    Need a hint to find the shield - I've got all other tools.
    
    ..........steve
    
    

     I second 296.18.
    
    I must be a total idiot as far as this game goes. I have been watching
    my wife play and playing this game myself, and neither of us can
    figure out where the crowns are (let alone how to get into some
    areas).
    
    We truly need help---maps and spoilers--please greggers?
    
    Thanks
    
    					Mich

    I'm just about finished with the map.  I'll post it either tonite
    or tomorrow morning.
    
    greggers

    Greggers,
    		Thanks a million. May the bluebird of happiness fly
    over your house (and leaave its droppings on an unsuspecting neighbor)
    
    		Mich

    Try this guys.......
    
    
    ***  SPOILER  ***
    
    
    
    
    
    
    
    
    
    
    
    
    
    
    
    
    
    
    
    
    
    
    From the beginning go down 2 scenes.  From there go right 3 scenes
    and drop down to dragon.  Go right then up on stairs to far right.
    Go up both ladders then left to next scene.  From there go up past
    inn to lion in next scene.  Then go right to ladder and up.  Go
    right 1 scene to ladder down.  Then go left to ladder down.  From
    there jump down and go left to drop down.  Jump up and go right to
    where the sword is.  From there jump up to where the purple rocks
    are.  Then break rocks to ladder up.  Go right to 3rd scene and
    work over to drop down.  Drop down to chest and #1 crown.
    You will need the daughter and high jump boots for this crown.

    Another spoiler to second crown....
    
    ***  SPOILER  ***
    
    
    
    
    
    
    
    
    
    
    
    
    
    
    
    
    Same as going to first crown go to the dragon.  From there go left
    then up to top.  Then left.  Keep going left by working the blocks
    to the shop at the end of the screen.  From there push down on the
    corner block.  Go down and then right to the end (don't forget not
    all rocks are real).    At the end push down on the last rock.  Go
    left to end and work down to bottom.  Go down and right to end and
    then down (rocks on end are not real so walk through and drop down
    to next scene).  Go left to end where ladder goes down and go down
    Go right to end ladder and down.  From there go left by moving all
    the blocks.  At the {nd there is a lion, c  chest,  shop, and inn.
    Go down middle ladder.  Now go right to end of scene and push down
    on block at bottom where key door is.  Go to bottom of screen  and
    enter next scene.  Right above you is a ladder up.  Work your  way
    to the ladder and go up 2 scenes. Go trough the blocks to the last
    pillar and push down. In this scene you need to manuver the blocks
    to the chest where #2 crown is.
    
    You need the father for this crown
    
    greggers

    Anybody playing this game????
    
    it's a pain!!!!!!!!

    .22  Help!
    
    I've attempted several times to obtain the first crown but 
    am running into problems.
    
    <possible spoiler follows>
    
    I am able to get to the upper section of the screen that contains
    the chest, the Inn and the Lion figure.  I cannot open the chest
    though because each time I jump near it, a block appears to the 
    right of the chest blocking my access.
    
    I also can't get to the left of the column because I keep falling
    through the green blocks in the screen above.
    
    Can someone post a note or send mail to help me through this one?

    	Hey! Is that Map still available? Could I get a copy?
    
    	I just started and I am haveing a hard time finding my way arround.
    Anyone have anymore tips?
    
    				Thanks

    re .26
    
    it's kinda hard to make a full map so I tried to just explain it in
    a couple of previous notes.  It's been awhile since I finished this
    one but I'll try to answer any questions you have.
    
    re .25
    
    
    
    I think what I did was make the lion move and then jumped off of him
    to the other side.......  let me know if this works.
    

    re .27
    
    
    I've tried jumping from the lion's back but unsuccessfully. 
    He doesn't seem to move high enough to be able to jump from
    his back to the screen above and over the column.  Maybe I
    haven't been patient enough. I'll try again.
    
    

    	RE .25 & -.1

    	  I found the trick for jumping over to the other side of the
    column.  I found this technique by mistake really,  I was using Pochi
    just exploring where he could go, and was standing on one of the
    stalagmites.  You know,  of course,  if you stand on one of these using
    the up arrow,  that you will not be hurt.  Well I needed to go up to
    another screen and when I did;

    	Spoiler follows
    

    				    I landed on a block which disappeared
    as the green ones do where the crown is.  I immediately jumped and
    found that I could jump when holding the up arrow when doing so on a
    block which disappears.  If you want to continue moving you need to
    press the controller up and left or right which ever way you need to
    go.

    	Working on the third crown now!  No Luck yet.  Later

    	Bob
                          

	Crown 3 attained!  I'm so far,  totally perplexed on the fourth.  Still
working on it.  Getting to the third crown required;

	Mild Spoiler follows;



	The WINGS!  Alot of fun getting there.  Need to change items a few
times in order to make it.


			More later.

	Bob

    	Oh Boy!  I found the fourth crown!  Only one problem.  Every time I
    get the crown and battle the monster,  it does me in!  Does anyone
    out there know if you need the shield to defeat this thing?

    	Bob
    
    
    
    
                           

    re: .31
    
    you definatly need the sheild for this one...no way around it
    
    greggers

    
    	Got the fourth crown this weekend.  I think what's next is the
    Dragon slayer.  Need to find the correct sequence of princesses to get.
    
    	More later
    
    	Bob

    VICTORY!

    	The dragon fell to the mighty dragonslayer.  Fun Game!  I rate this
    a solid 8.5.  Difficult at first to get used to but,  once you understand
    how the individual family members work,  Things begin to make sense.
    Counting blocks and screens helped me very much.  I did not map the
    castle.  Just keep track of how many screens you go and in what
    direction.

    	Spoilers provided upon request.

    Dragon Warrior next!

    	Bob	  

    	My wife and I have gotten 3 crowns, and have searched and searched
    for the shield.  Without the shield, we're consistent dogmeat on
    the 4th crown.  Would someone provide some tips on where one might
    locate the shield??
    
    				Frustrated...
    				Chuck

                             -< Jump Boot Hints >-
                            
    
       Can anyone give me a hint as to where the Jump Boots are located?
    
    Al

    I have been playing this game off and on for several months now
    and though I have been able to find most of the weapons/tools, I
    still have not been able to get ONE crown!
    
    I have tried to follow the hints listed in this note for the crowns
    that can (supposedly ;-) be obtained by the daughter and the father.
    
    <<possible spoilers follow form feed>>
    
    I cannot get to the other side of the column to get to the chest
    that contains the "daughter's" crown.  
    
    I'm also having problems moving the blocks correctly with the father
    in order to get to the shop at the far left of the third screen down
    from the beginning.  That's where the disappearing blocks are that
    let you drop down into the screen below and move on your way towards
    the "father's" crown.
    
    Any and all help greatly appreciated!  Major spoilers welcome!  I'm
    ready to toss this game unless I can make some progress soon.
    
    Mary

re: .37

spoiler follows:

I too have just gotten the "daughters crown" here is how I did it.
If you get to the point where you drop down to the lion and inn and find that
you need to get to the other side of the column, then you went too far.
I used the pick to destroy all the blocks in the same row. I left the bottom
tier to walk on. The problem is that the green blocks are not real and you
fall through. Well after breaking all the blocks to clear a path I then killed
enough of the monsters that roam up there to get one that gave me a "scroll"
this sped up the character enough so that I got a running start and just as I 
hit the green blocks I pressed the "A" button to jump and was able to get to the
other side. I have also found the "fathers" crown but have been unable as yet 
to beat the giant monster at the end.

good luck

- George

    Re .38
    
    Thanks, George!  I'll give that a try tonight!
    
    

O.K. Now I'm stumped, I have 3 crowns and have found the fourth. But,
my problem is that I can not beat the monster at the end. Beat? I cant even
affect it. Its the "mother's" crown that I am working on and I have the shield.
Can somebody give me a clue as to how to beat the monster?

- George

    Need help locating the shield.  We've gotten the first 2 crowns and
    have located the 3rd and 4th.  However we don't have the shield and the
    Dragon just does us in.
    
    thx

I notice a number of people have asked this question without a response being 
posted. I for one have retrieved 2 crowns and located the other 2. I have 
found all of the tools as well with the exception of the shield. If someone
could provide me the location of that item I might have a chance at continuing.
So far though, I am stumped as to where it might be located.

      Thanks,
      Brian

Spoiler Follows:


Use the "Father" because I believe you will need the "hammer".
Go down to the point where the Dragon is, go left to where you need to 
move/break a block. After getting by that block go DOWN, the character
will experience a free fall for a couple of scenes. After the free fall
the character will need to use the hammer to pound at a block overhead
and to the right. These blocks are meaningless looking, after pounding the
correct block it will turn into an INN, pound it again and it will turn
into a STORE where the shield can be bought for 95 gps.

Now in return, please help me understand how to beat the guardian of
the "mother's" crown.

- George

    
    Help!  Need other crown locations.
    
    I've only been able to get the daughter's crown.  I have a basic
    understanding of where I need to go to get the father's crown from
    reading this note, but I want to save that one for last.  According to
    a tip from Nintendo Power Magazine, each monster has greater strength
    than the last regardless of which crown you're going for...since the
    father has the greatest strength, his crown should be obtained last.  
    
    Unfortunately I haven't been able to locate any other crowns.  Would
    really appreciate any level of spoiler.  Major spoilers welcome!
    
    Re: .43
    
    input on spoiler follows:
    
    Thanks for the tip.  I tried it this weekend but I had to use the 
    Daughter instead of the Father.
    

    I'll re-read all the good stuff about finding crowns and so on.
    
    But for now - well, I can't deal with this game at all!  I bought
    it Saturday because it was on sale for $25.  I'm determined to have
    not wasted my money.  But, not being the world's best NES player
    anyway, my daughter and I are about the throw up our hands with
    this one.  I _promised_ her I would "ask the computer" for help.
    
    And help is what I need.
    
    1. How do you get back to the house from the dungeons?  Any way
    other than simply re-tracing your steps?
    2. What do the two items in the shop (or is it inn?) in the big
    tree right outside the house do for you?  I can get them in
    my inventory, but don't know what to do with them once I get
    them.
    3. In general, I don't have any idea of what to do.  Now I'm not
    asking for spoilers. (yet)  Just - how do you deal with this
    technically?  Should I pitch the game in the garbage and get
    something easier?
    
    Joel
    

    Don't pitch it yet.
    
    When you first selected a character, you ended up in an "equipment
    closet".  You can move your character to the item you want, and press
    the A button to pick it up.  (If you don't have any of the item, or if
    the item count is coded in blue, then you can't use that item.)  
    
    You can also get into this equipment room by paying 10 gold at any inn. 
    (Changing the items you are using is important for certain characters.)
    
    This is the only way to pick up an item!  Paying for an item or finding
    it in a chest puts the item in your equipment room, not in your
    available inventory.  Believe it or not, this is a feature!  You
    wouldn't want your active items to be changed arbitrarily on you in
    certain areas of the dungeon.
    
    Getting back to the house from the dungeon can be accomplished by one
    of the items in the tree.  Simply select it, and you'll end up near
    home.
    
    I believe the other item in the tree is a healing potion.  If you die
    while this potion is your selected item, instead of dying, you are
    healed.  I haven't been there for a while - it may be a magic potion,
    that fills up your magic points when selected.
    
    To get started - explore!  There are lots of items you need to find. 
    Some you need to buy in shops, some you need to find in a chest.  Note
    that you need to be *very* creative to get certain characters through
    certain rooms!  
    
    There are some spots in the dungeon that only one character can get to. 
    And make sure that you check out the floor and sidewalls carefully. 
    There are some hidden holes that simply must be found.
    
    I found using the father to be the easiest, at first.  He has the most
    powerful magic, and can cut down most of the wimpier monsters without
    any trouble.  
    
    - Chris

    .46
    
    Thanks for the tips.  They will be very helpful.  You inspire me
    to avoid moving this towards the trash can.
    
    Unfortunately, my ignorance is more basic than you imagined.  Like...
    suppose you have in your inventory the thing you need to warp back
    to the house.  How do you take advantage of it?  Which buttons do
    you push, and under what circumstances?
    
    I'm anxious to have fun with this, be creative and all that.  But
    it's been a drag so far because I don't even know the mechanics.
    
    Joel
    

re: .47
    
>    Unfortunately, my ignorance is more basic than you imagined.  Like...
>    suppose you have in your inventory the thing you need to warp back
>    to the house.  How do you take advantage of it?  Which buttons do
>    you push, and under what circumstances?
    
Not sure which buttons but, I believe the combination of the "select" , "Arrow"
and "B" buttons will allow you to select and use items in your inventory.
Use the "Select" key to activate the option and then the "arrow" keys to
move the frame around the object. Then while your character is moving around
the dungeon, if you want to use the selected object I believe you use
the "B" button. Anyway its all written up in the instructions.
    
- George    

    re .48
    
    That's the right idea.  I use select, left and right arrows to pick the
    item, and then hit select again.  However, I beleive that either one of
    the A or B buttons also selects the item, as well as taking the normal
    A or B reaction.  Thus, you can select a new item and jump or shoot at
    the same time.
    
    - Chris

    The tips from yesterday were useful.  But let me give a specific
    example of where I get confused by the directions included with
    the game:
    
    It tells you to go to the grandfather and give him a password if
    you want to resume a game.  It tells you how to put in the password.
    It tells you to use the curved arrow to verify the password.  The
    directions tell you how to abort the process.  But - what they
    don't tell you is: having entered the password, having verified
    it - what next?  I've tried every button and the only one that
    causes any action is the "start" button.  And this puts me back
    into character select, but with an entirely new game.
    
    The directions also talk about a particular item which allows
    you to "warp" back to the vicinity of the house.  But it 
    doesn't explain how you do that.  And so on.  Perhaps they
    have updated the instruction book and the newer version is
    lousy.  Help is needed on such basics.
    
    By the way - I took it over to a neighbor who is a NES expert.
    He, too, was unable to translate the directions into action.
    So at least I'm not the only one...
    
    Joel
    

Well, the very first time you enter the game its not necessary to use the
password feature you start by selecting a character and progress. When you
want to end the game/session get back to the house and select the grandmother
she will give you a password, write it down and save it. Then when you want
to resume the game (presumably where you left off) select the grandfather
and provide him with the password that you were last given, this allows
you to pick up where you left off. It really shouldn't be necessary to verify
the password as that will be done when you enter the 32nd character.
If it verifies you then select a character and progress further.

- george

    Regarding selecting the grandfather or grandmother to save, I think
    the rule book might have it backwards - I was very confused about
    the password at first too.  If you select one of them you will get
    a little screen with a password filled in.  If you select the other
    you will get a little screen with blank lines.  I thought you could
    enter your own password on the blank screen, but you have to take
    one that the game generates.  So, to save, select the character
    who gives you the filled in password and write it down.  To resume
    your game, select the one with the blanks and carefully fill in
    the password you wrote down.
    
    I was also confused about selecting one of your equipment items.  Once
    you've equipped yourself with 3 items, either at home or in an inn,
    you can select the one you want to use.  Get out of the home/inn.
    Press the SELECT key.  This freezes the action on the screen, although
    the music will continue.  Then use the left and right arrow to activate
    whichever item you want.
    
    Note that some items disappear from your equipment and inventory
    once they've been selected.  They get used up.  For example, potions
    are pretty obviously used up once you have selected them.  There
    are a few other items which are too - experiment and see.
    
    I'm a rank beginner at Nintendo stuff, and found the instructions
    for Legacy of the Wizard really confusing.  It took me 2 evenings
    to figure out how to select/change your active equipment item, since
    I kept trying to do that in an inn.  But now I really like the game.
    I was up until 2 last night and finally found the mattock, but got
    killed trying to get up the gold to buy it.  Oh well.  I would use
    Poochi at first, since you can get a hang of the controls etc and
    see a good part of the dungeon while not worrying about monsters
    killing you off.  Poochi is good for collecting gold for buying
    items, too.  I'm going to do that tonight, before going after the
    mattock again.
    
    --Louise
    
    

    Thanks for the tips in the last two notes.
    
    Here's a novice strategy.  Not advised for experts, but we amateurs
    need help prolonging the game.
    
    Go the the first tree (above ground) and select the potion.  (elixer
    of life, I think)
    
    Go down the ladder.  Keep killing guys (and periodically going back
    home to re-charge) and you store up gold and keys and other goodies.
    When you have an amount you feel comfortable with just go on like
    normal.  Except you will have more gold and so on to sustain you.
    (I'm usually about dead by the time I find an Inn so I need that
    gold)
    
    Now I'm sure the experts don't need this crutch.  But it sure
    prolongs my own playing time.  
    
    Joel
    

    Hi Joel, I'm glad to see I'm not the only novice around....
    
    I did what you said, stored up lots of keys and gold, but since
    I used Poochi I didn't need any potions.  
    
    One hint:
    
    Remember to try "flying" with Poochi.  You can't use wings, but
    since Poochi is immune to monster attacks, he can grab a ride on
    the bats.  Remember how bats will stay close by you when they latch
    onto you?  If you get a bat to stop right below you and then you
    jump or press the UP key, the bat will rise up.  You can then repeat
    this until you're up where you want to be.  Fish are REALLY good
    for this, since they're pretty predictable.  Some critters are apt
    to hop away just as they've gotten you stranded near the ceiling,
    so be careful.  Also, you can't get them to stay under you as you
    descend, so make sure you either can survive the fall (have some
    lives to spare) or can step onto something.  Also, most critters
    will not go past the borders of most levels, although SOMEtimes
    you can do that.
    
    --Louise

    re: .53  Suggested tactic for "novices"
    
    Who says that idea is for novices only?  There are some monsters in the
    lower levels that you *must* let hit you!  (They can't be hurt until
    they hit you, and there is no way to get around them.  If your
    character can't use armor, then you have to let these monsters hit you.)
    
    Since these monsters *also* tend to hit very hard, you need to find an
    inn after running this gauntlet.
    
    - Chris

    RE: .54/.55
    
    Thanks for the tip!
    
    Glad you experts can use this tactic as well.  I suspect I will
    be spending alot of time trying to deal with this game.
    
    On a scale of 1-10 with 1 being easiest and 10 being the hardest,
    where would you rate Legacy of the Wizard?
    
    Joel
    

    
    Waiting patiently .....
    
    Can't someone out there give just a little, teeny, tiny hint where/how to
    get to the crowns (other than the daughter's and father's)?
    
    I know you're out there ... unless all you folks who've alleged you've
    found the crowns are bluffing.
    
    You could even send mail, call, whatever!
    
    
    Thanks!
    Mary

    RE: .57
    
    I'm not sure which crowns are the daughter's and father's, so
    some of the below may contain info you already know.  Look 
    at notes 296.22,.23,.25,.29,.30,.37,.38,.43.  All these
    notes have info about getting crowns.
    
    I haven't gotten anywhere and I'm definitely going to consign
    this to the junk heap.
    
    Joel
    

    RE: .58
    
    Thanks, anyway!  All of those notes (except .43) are about the father's
    and daughter's crowns.  .43 is about obtaining a tool.
    
    Actually some of the notes you referred to were written by yours truly
    (all requests for help).  I've needed a lot of hand-holding on this
    game.
    
    Hopefully someone will come to my rescue.  Either that, or you'll be
    reading an ad for this game in topic 3.
    
    Mary

    I don't know where the fourth crown is, and I don't have my map handy,
    but here's some hints to the mother's crown that should be more or less
    accurate:
                      
    Go to where you find the shield.
    Keep going down as far as you can.  You get to a room with an inn at
    the beginning, and lots of fake blocks that you have to break to get to
    the inn.
    Go all the way to the right.  Go down from there.
    Keep going until you hit bottom (two or three rooms.)
    This room has little pedestals with stalagmites on them.  Jump over the
    pedestals and go to the far left.  You'll find a stairway down to the
    bottom part of the room.
    At this point, try to go down through each of the floor blocks.  I
    believe it's the third or fourth block that lets you  through to a new
    room.  
    From there on, it's not too hard to find the mother's crown - although
    you might need to stop at a few inns to change items along the way.
    
    An extra hint, just for free.  Somewhere along this route, you can find
    the jump boots.  But after you find the boots, keep going!  You are
    getting really close to the mother's crown!

    I haven't found the shield, but I've purchased the jump boots at
    a shop.  Is this shop the location you're referring to?
    
    --L

    I took the game over to my friend's last night.  He has a
    high-resolution, fairly large TV.  (our "good" TV has been in
    the shop 3 weeks and we have been using our low-resolution, 
    small tv)  What a difference!  It is now starting to make sense.
    
    There are ladders to the right of you, ladders to the left of you,
    ladders up, ladders down.  There is a block in the upper right-hand
    corner which tells what items you have selected.  The little
    thingies on the top identify how much magic, gold, and so on that
    you have.  Never knew what those little blue things were.
    
    The game ain't easy, for sure.  But now at least I know it isn't
    impossible.
    
    If anyone else is discouraged - hang in there.
    
    Joel
    

    re: .61
    
    Nope - never found a shop for the jump boots.  Interesting!  I don't
    suppose you have a hint or two for how to get to that shop, do you?
    
    - Chris

    RE: .61, .63
    
    Yes - jump boot info would be helpful.  Also, how do you get the
    mattock? 
    
    1.  I found a world in which chests are encased in brick.  You can
    burrow through it but, even with keys, the chests don't open.  
    Any way to open them?
    
    2. I found a crown and was immediately whisked away in the vicinity
    of a dragon skeleton and a giant tarantula.  Anyone know which crown
    this is?
    
    Joel
    

    I forget to mention this in my previous note. (.64)  I'm always
    asking for help so here's a tip, especially for novices like 
    myself.  It's just a tip, not a spoiler.
    
    A good way to collect gold - use the daughter with the killer
    shoes.  Go down two levels and go to the right.  You'll drop
    down to an inn built into the side of a little mountain.
    Creatures keep swimming by.  Jump up and land on top of the
    creatures.  For the first few minutes, almost every one turns
    into gold.  You don't use up live or magic doing it.
    
    To save time (waiting for the creatures to reappear) after you
    have collected your gold or keys or whatever has appeared, get
    to the very top of the mountain and jump straight up.  You'll
    briefly be in another world, and when you come back down the
    creatures will be back.
    
    I collected 100 pieces of gold in about ten minutes doing this.
    (I was saving up to buy the wings)  Also, with an inn right
    there, if you run into trouble you can recharge easily.
    
    Joel
    

    Jump Boots:  If my map is trustworthy, I found my jump boot shop
    
    SPOILER:
    
    
    in the area just above the shop where wings are sold.  I don't remember
    the cost.
    
    The Mattock is in a shop
    
    SPOILER:
    
    
    down in the lower right section.  You can get there with
    either the wings or jump boots.  95 gold - save your pennies!

    
    I'm still trying to get the daughter to the left of the column
    where her crown is.  I've tried all the suggestions except getting
    the lion high enough to jump from its back.  This is really 
    frustrating!
    
    --Louise

    Re: .60  Mother's Crown
    
    <<possible spoiler follows formfeed>>
    
    I tried the directions you gave but could not a floor block that would
    disappear.  At the bottom of the long staircase, I ended up in a room
    of brown blocks.  When up a ladder just to the left of where I entered
    the room, across the stalagmites, and down the next staircase.  I
    checked all the floor blocks between those two staircases.  None would
    allow me to go down.  There's a fourth staircase in that room so I
    tried the floor blocks there.  No luck!  Can you check your map again?
    Am I in the right area?
    
    Thanks,
    Mary
    

    I have now found two rooms with multiple chests in them.  Not only
    do they not open, they act like monsters and eat up lives.  Anyone
    know how to open them?  Or - perhaps they can't be open and they
    are decoys?
    
    Joel
    

>    I have now found two rooms with multiple chests in them.  Not only
>    do they not open, they act like monsters and eat up lives.  Anyone
>    know how to open them?  Or - perhaps they can't be open and they
>    are decoys?
    
What you see is what you got!
They are indeed monsters that eat up lives, however if you kill them they may
leave coins etc, behind ala other conventional type monsters.

- George    

    re: -.1
    	Or there could even be another chest under the decoy one.  I
    have only seen that once though.
    	
    		Screamin' Ben
    
    

    I was scanning a Nintendo book in the local bookstore and in the
    "Legacy of the Wizard" entry (which wasn't helpful, by the way)
    they mention that there are approximately 524 different rooms in
    this game.
    
    Now my tv is 20".  Each room takes up, on average, two 20" screens.
    Thus, if we could print out each room at two screens per room and
    arrange them in a line, the line would be 1,746.6 feet long.
    
    This is alot of stuff to look at.  Has anyone even come close to
    exploring that many rooms?  I've got all the tools now except the
    shield and the sword and I doubt I've been in more than 30-35 
    rooms tops.  
    
    Joel
    

I have successfully located each of the four crowns as well as all of the 
tools, including the sheild. The sword of course can not be aquired until all
four crowns are taken. I've managed to get three of the four crowns, but am 
having difficulty with the fourth. I realise that the gaurdian of the crown gets
stronger as you collect more crowns, so that which ever charachter gets their
crown first fights the weakest gaurdian and so on. I have saved the strongest
charachter for last but still seem unable to put a dent in the fouth guardian. I
approach it with the sheild and elixer and have tried the power knuckle, but
still no luck. Any suggestions from those of you who have successfully defeated
all four monsters would be greatly appreciated.

     Thanks
       Brian

    re: .72
    
    Sorry to say that I can't help you with defeating the last monster,
    but you can definitely help me!  How about sharing the crown locations? 
    If not in this notesfile, then perhaps by mail?  I'd really appreciate
    it.
    
    thanks,
    mary
    

    Put 'em in the file after a form feed and spoiler warning.  I've
    only found 2, and am getting frustrated.  I've killed all monster
    chests, and have gone everywhere I can.  The only 2 found so far
    are the father's and the daughter's.
    
    Thanks to whoever can put in the locations of the other 2!
    
    --Louise

    I have found three of the crowns.  I'll be glad to share any info
    you need.  But you'll need to tell me how to differentiate between
    "mother's" crown, "father's" crown, etc.  
    
    I found one, and defeated the monster, with Pochi.  Is there a
    "Pochi's" crown?
    
    Anyway - if you'll tell me how to distinguish between the crowns,
    I'll be able to figure out which one you need help on and will
    provide detailed instuctions.
    
    Actually, I've found all four crowns, but am not sure how to get
    to one of them.  Perhaps we can share and share alike.
    
    Joel
    

    Notes 22 and 23 describe how to get to the father's and daughter's
    crowns.  If you could describe how to get to the other two, and
    let us know if you used any other character to get the father's
    or daughter's, that would help a lot!
    
    Thanks,
    	Louise

    RE: .76
    
    I've got the two crowns referred to in .22 and .23.  I'll check
    my map tonight and tomorrow will post detailed instructions on
    how to get another crown.  
    
    I know where the fourth crown is (by elimination, it must be the
    mother's crown) but can't get to it.  I can get to the left of
    it and the right of it, but actually getting it has so far
    eluded me.
    
    I did use the daughter and the father for the crowns described in
    .22 and .23.  But I used Pochi for the other crown.  As I say,
    I'll post totally detailed instructions for the other crown I
    have gotten.
    
    Joel
    

    RE: .76
    
    I promised a map to the mystery crown Friday but was sick.  I just
    now noticed there is a request for the mother's crown as well.
    Found it yet?  If not, let me know and I'll bring in my map
    tomorrow.
    
    [SPOILER FOLLOWS]
    
    (I don't know how to do the line feed thing so I will hit the
    return a few times.  But if you don't want to read a spoiler, 
    if you're reading this, don't read any more)
    
    
    
    
    
    
    
    
    
    
    
    
    
    
    
    
    
    
    
    
    
    1. From dragon, go right as far as you can to the ladder down.
    2. Work way to ladder down on lower left of maze.
    3. The next room is pretty bare; don't go down the down ladder
    here.  The brick on the upper right is phoney; break it and go
    to the next room.
    4. Go right, all the way, to ladder down on lower right.
    5. There's a grey pyramid in the next room.  Cut through bricks
    (you don't need special items) to ladder down, located towards
    left of pyramid.
    6. Next scene is another maze.  Go to the far left of the maze,
    then down, then straight right to the next scene.
    7. Go up the stone platforms.  Bricks above the top platform
    are bogus.  Break through to the next scene.
    8. This scene is yet another maze.  Work up and to the right.
    There is a ladder to the left of the shop.  Climb up and break
    through to the next scene.  This is the scene with the crown.
    9. Directly above the inn in this scene are two chests; the
    lower one is the crown.
    
    Now - I got this as crown #2, with Pochi.  But if you are doing
    this as crown #3 or #4, I don't think Pochi is strong enough to
    beat the guardian monsters.  This calls for a different approach
    once you get into the crown room.  I'll just say this - (more
    help upon request) - all the chests in this area, except for the
    crown, are instant death upon contact to everyone but Pochi!
    
    Joel
    

    AHA!  I didn't try the ceiling blocks above the steps in that last
    room.  Now I'm set.  Thanks!
    
    No I haven't found the Mother's crown yet.
    
    --Louise

    RE: .79
    
    Good luck!
    
    I'll bring in my map to the mother's crown.  I suspect you have
    gotten close.  But there is one tiny little easily-overlooked
    trick in two of the nearby rooms that you might have missed.
    I found them absolutely by a combination of grunt-work (checking
    virtually every block in every room) and accident.  (trying to
    jump too far, I landed where I didn't want to land, but, it
    turns out, should have landed.  If you know what I mean...)
    
    Joel
    

         No wonder we can't get you out on the golf course any
    more Joel !!!!! You're to busy playing Wizard !!!
    
    Jim Cooper

    RE: .81
    
    Too true!  Although I'll be having an offsite team-building
    session on Friday at Franklin Canyon.  Only the second
    such session since October!  
    
    BTW - have you gotten Legacy of the Wizard yet?  I highly
    recommend it!  I initially hated it, as I had no idea what
    was going on.  But when you get the hang of it, it's a 
    real challenge!
    
    I still have to:
    
    1. Defeat the fourth crown guardian
    2. Find the Dragonslayer/sword.
    3. Defeat the dragon.
    
    It's fun!
    
    (but not as fun as smoking a three-iron second shot onto the
    first green at Franklin Canyon and then canning the eagle putt.
    Of course, I haven't done that yet either, but I _imagine_ it
    would be a terrific kick!)
    
    Joel
    

    Poochi is grinning a monsterously wide grin!
    
    And I got the shield too.
    
    So, now to try again with the daughter - I tried that last jump
    to the point of frustration last week and always landed on the
    wrong side of the column.  It's just a matter of time, though.
    
    Then I'm going to go block by block around some of the blank areas
    on my map and try to find the mother's crown.  I know I must've
    been close many times.  I think I've seen the area on my way to
    the place where the father's crown is, but couldn't get into it.
    Sort-of to the center bottom of the map.  I've tried every block
    to the right of that long stairway down and every one in that
    area at the bottom of the stairs, but it looks like the entrance
    is in another room.  So, back to work!
    
    --Louise

    Route to the Mother's Crown:
    
    
    
    
    [SPOILER FOLLOWS]
    
    
    
    
    
    
    
    
    
    
    
    
    
    
    
    
    
    
    
    1. Go to dragon, drop down and go left as far as you can.  Take
    ladder down.
    2. Climb down one level, drop down two.
    3. Climb down ladder on left to next scene.  Go right to end of
    scene, down, and keep going down three levels.  
    4. Go up ladder on your left; keep going left three scenes to
    scene which begins with key doors.
    5. Walk along bottom of scene as much as possible until you get
    to a ladder down.  Go down.
    6. In next scene, push down on brick on bottom, fourth from the
    left and drop into a new scene.
    7. Go right through this scene and the next.
    8. At end of 2nd scene, go up and through gap in the ceiling where
    the monster paces back and forth.
    9. Work way to the top of the scene and go right to next scene.
    Go right through this scene, over the purple bricks.
    10. You will almost immediately drop down to a cavern with a
    lion.  Go left, up and through the light blue bricks until you
    finally drop back down to the bottom of these bricks.  Go right
    to the next scene.
    11. Go up ladder, go left, and go up the next ladder.
    12. Go right when you get to top of the ladder.
    13. Go right in this scene and the next.  At end of the 2nd scene
    (the scene with the "girl" monsters) drop to the bottom and go
    back left.
    14. go down ladder and drop down to next scene; go right.
    15. Go right through next scene, as far as you can.  You will
    see two ladders up; take the one on the left.
    16. Work to lower left of this scene.  Bricks on wall are phony.
    Break them to the ladder up.
    17. Go right, then up to top of the next room, and left to edge
    of sidewalk.  When you jump down, keep left arrow depressed 
    because the fifth brick from the bottom is bogus.  You will 
    automatically break it and go through into the next scene.
    18. Go left, past the shop above you, to the left wall.  Sixth
    brick from the top is phoney.  Break through it and go left
    through the next scene all the way.
    19. Go up ladder and work to top right of this scene.  Go up
    ladder.
    20. Work to lower left of the next scene and go down.
    21. Go down ladder through the next scene and go down as far as
    you can.  
    22. Work right through all the key doors.  Keep going right.  You
    will drop through bricks to the inn.  Here is where you want to
    change into the shield and, if you don't have alot of keys left,
    the magic key rod.  When you fly up out of the inn's area, go right
    to the end and drop down. The bricks on your left (in the last 
    column) are phony and you can break through.
    23. Work left, through bricks and key doors, and up ladder.  You
    will wind up dropping down on the chest with the crown!
    
    Good luck, and have fun!
    
    Joel
    

    Once you've got all the crowns and the sword - how do you get the
    dragon mural to come alive?  Or is there some other way to bring
    that ugly bad dude to justice?
    
    Joel
    

    I think it's got something to do with the picture in the house and
    maybe with those other pictures (the girl pictures in walls and
    such) that are scattered around the dungeon.  
    
    --Louise

  Has anyone managed to defeat all four crown gaurdians and would care to share
your stratagey for accomplishing that feat? I have tried unsuccessfully now a
number of times to get past the fourth guardian. I'm using the father with the
shield and various other implements but don't seem able to make much of an
impact on the creature.

   Thanks, Brian.

    re: the fourth guardian
    
    The fourth guardian lives in an interesting area.  Put on the shield,
    and move until you just see the guardian.  You'll see a little ledge
    just before the pit where the guardian runs around.
    
    If you watch the guardian closely, you will see that the guardian
    cannot reach that ledge.  
    
    If that's not enough of a clue...
    
    At the highest part of his jump, the guardian is within range of your
    axe, while you stand on that ledge, if you fire diagonally.  
    
    Can't seem to get him in range?
    
    You can't just stand on the ledge, or the guardian will hide just below
    you.  Move back up a step, and then back down.  The guardian will
    restart his movement pattern, which will bring him back into range.
    
    *Don't* fall off the ledge!  If you do, there's a hole down below where
    you can hide for a short time - but your chances of survival are very
    slim.
    
    Now you can shoot at him, but it doesn't seem to hurt him?  ...
    
    You need to get multiple shots away.  Notice that the guardian's shots
    destroy your axes.  Get in multiple shots as fast as you can, so that
    you can score some damage with one or more of the axes.
    
    Now you swear you've hit him, but he didn't get hurt?  ...
    
    The guardian will take many hits before he starts to loose life.  (I
    suppose you have to get through his "armor".)
    
    Just keep firing, and you'll eventually get him.  

    
    I've obtained two of the crowns and have been able to locate the
    third.  I get trashed by the monster before I even get a chance
    to look around to set a strategy.  Possible spoilers follow form-feed.
    
    
    This is the mother's crown and I've armed her with the shield,
    knuckle and wings.  I can't get far enough into the room the
    monster's in to find a good vantage point for attack.  Any hints?
    
    
    Thanks,
    Mary
    

    RE: .89
    
    
    [spoiler follows]
    
    
    
    
    
    
    
    
    
    
    
    
    
    
    
    
    
    
    
    
    After doing it the way you are doing it, I semi-started over (using
    old passwords) and got the crowns in the following order: daughter's,
    mother's, father's, generic.  The guardian monsters get stronger
    but their strength is related to how many crowns you have, rather
    than where you found the crown.
    
    I therefore don't know if you can beat the third montster with the
    mother.  I beat it with the father, and I did it as follows:
    
    1. Shield (of course)
    2. Glove (needed for the father's crown)
    3. extra life container.
    
    I put on the shield when I grabbed the crown and went over to the
    general vicinity of the monster.  I then selected the life potion
    and made a mad dash to the right.  There's a semi-cave over there
    and you're relatively safe there.  (I don't think the monster hurts
    you at all - if you're wearing the shiled - unless he touches you)
    
    Naturally, without the shield I would die quickly.  But not 
    immediately!  I would die and select the shield and continue
    to the right and duck into the semi-cave.  Sooner or later the
    monster will get stuck right in front of you and then you
    blast him away.
    
    Joel
    

    re: .88  Thanks for the reassurance. That is basically what I've been trying.
I guess I just need a bit more patience with that stratagey and hope for the 
best.

   re: .-1 I did collect the third crown with the mother. you'll notice she is
the next strongest charachter to the father who is the most powerful. It only
took me 2 tries using the shield to scoot over where the guardian is visible and
shooting as fast as possible then hcanging quickly to the life potion before my
life was exhasuted. upon reincarnation I was just able to defeat the monster 
before my life expired again. Actually I did defeat that monster once with the
daughter but the moment after the monster expired one of the left over shots
from the monster did me in.

     Brian

    Thanks for the tips. I was able to get that last crown and susequently
aquire the sword. I even managed to get the dragon to come to life and reduce
it by one red bar before my demise. But now I have no idea what it was that
caused the dragon to come to life so that I can take a sceond shot at it. Also
once in the screen to do battle with the dragon, it seems that you can no
longer change magical items. Is that correct?

    re: .92
    
    
    [spoiler follows]
    
    
    
    
    
    
    
    
    
    
    
    
    
    
    Yes, I don't believe you can change items once the dragon comes
    to life.  On the other hand, the only thing that works against
    the dragon is the sword - you have to have the boy and the
    sword to beat the thing.
    
    As for making it come to life, select the sword and jump up and
    down under the picture.  I seem to recall that about two steps
    to the right of the left-hand column works best.  But I never
    did come up with a sure-fire, totally predictable way to do it.
    
    
    [additional spoiler on fighting the dragon]
    
    
    
    
    
    
    
    
    
    
    
    
    Once you figure out the dragon's patter, and the technique, 
    beating it is easy.  As soon as you notice that you're going
    to be zapped into the dragon's lair, do the left directional 
    arrow.  You've noticed no doubt that when you first get near
    the dragon you are right next to him, and being there kills
    you quickly.
    
    Go to the far left of the screen and watch the pattern.  You'll
    notice that he moves up and down, right to left, left to right.
    When he is at his farthest right, move towards him and start
    shooting continuously, waiting for him to move into contact
    with the swords.  The instant you see the swords touch him, 
    get back to the left where you are safe.
    
    You'll smash him bit-by-bit using this technique.  Every breath
    of his fire takes 10-20 life points off you, so err on the side
    of caution.  The key is to let the dragon move _into_ the swords,
    and be very careful.  Get the rhythm and you'll win the game!
    
    
    Joel
    

     It seems that just having the sword selected and being in the vicinity of 	
the left column is all it takes to wake up the dragon. its best to approach that
point with full life as what you have is where you start. however magic and those
other quantities are irrelevant at that point. I also found it easiest to do in
the dragon by pressing bot a and b simultaneously.

    The end is a little disapointing. Its cute and all but not real imaginitive.
some of the other games really outshine the ending on this one. of course I've
seen one or two which are a bit worse as well.

    Thanks for the help.

      Brian

    Anyone still playing Legacy?  I need some help with the father's crown. 
    Possible spoiler follows form-feed.
    
    The crown I'm talking about requires the movement of several blocks in
    order the clear the way.  The area I'm having trouble with is getting
    to the shop where the floor block disappears.  I just can't seem to
    move the blocks the proper way to get to the shop.  I'm stuck in the
    area where the stalagmite (tite?) blocks you from going left.  Any
    helpful hints on how to move the blocks would be mucho appreciated.
    
    Thanks,
    Mary
    

    Re .95 (spoiler)
    
    
    
    
    
    
    
    
    
    
    
    
    
    
    
    
    
    
    
    
    
    
    
    
    
    
    Mary,
    
    You have to attack it from the oppsite direction. Maneuver the blocks
    so that you come in from the upper left corner of the screen. That way
    you can push the block by the stalagmite to the right.
    
    Question. Can ANYBODY out there please....please....please give me the
    exact location of the high jumping boots. I've ben everywhere and am
    stuck at this point. Thanks.
    
    Ted

    
    Re .96
    
    
    That's what I'm having trouble with.  I can't move the blocks out of my
    way so that I can get to the left of the screen.  I need some technique
    tips on how to actually move the blocks.  I think I need to jump up and
    move a block down, but I keep moving it to the left accidently,
    blocking my progress to the left of the screen.
    
    Thanks,
    Mary
    

    Re .97
    
    
    
    
    
    
    
    
    
    
    
    
    
    
    
    
    
    
    
    
    
    Mary,
    
    I agree, it's the hardest part of the game. When I want to move the
    block either up or down I stand DIRECTLY on top or below the block and
    make sure I'm solidly on either the up or down arrow key. For side to 
    side movement, I cheat to the side I want the block moved to and again
    make sure that I'm pressing the arrow key in the direction I want the
    block to go. It IS tricky and I've been frustrated with blocks moving
    in the wrong direction more than once. Good luck and let me know how it
    works.
    
    Any ideas on the jump boots for me in return??????? :-)
    
    Ted

    I'm not going to put a spoiler feed here because it is purely
    technical advice.
    
    One of the keys to block moving is to move the arrow _after_ you
    come back down on the block.  It's a timing issue:
    
    1. Jump
    2. Land
    3. Move directional arrow in the proper direction.
    
    Now you do this in rapid sequence.  I suggest you find a room with
    blocks on the floor and few monsters to practice.  That's what I
    did, anyway, and the practice worked miracles!
    
    Joel
    

    
    Thanks to .98 and .99.  I'll have to do some practicing :-(
    
    Re the Jump Boots, major spoiler follows form-feed.
    
    From the screen where the Dragon is, go UP the staircase on the FAR
    RIGHT.
    RIGHT to the next room.
    UP and all the way to the RIGHT.
    In next room, go RIGHT and use wings (I used the mother for this) to go
    UP.
    Go UP, LEFT, UP and RIGHT (all within same screen) to up staircase that
    is blocked.  Move block, go UP.
    Use wings to go UP over the stack of Purple blocks and go LEFT.  Exit
    the room at upper left hand corner.
    Go LEFT.  Shop is on top of double row of purple blocks.
    You need the Mother with the Wings and whatever the tool is called that
    she uses to move blocks.
    
    Mary
    

    Re 100
    
    Thanks Mary,
    
    I found them this weekend, but in a different location. After I got
    them I found the shop you mentioned. Oh well, now I can jump higher to
    nowhere!! ;-)
    
    Ted