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Conference rusure::math

Title:Mathematics at DEC
Moderator:RUSURE::EDP
Created:Mon Feb 03 1986
Last Modified:Fri Jun 06 1997
Last Successful Update:Fri Jun 06 1997
Number of topics:2083
Total number of notes:14613

2034.0. "Pillow Problems" by NETCAD::ROLKE (Tune in, turn on, fail over) Thu Mar 21 1996 13:24

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2034.1HANNAH::OSMANsee HANNAH::IGLOO$:[OSMAN]ERIC.VT240Mon Mar 25 1996 13:028
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> 5. A bag contains one counter, known to be either white or black.
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Does this mean there's an even chance of the "counter" (whatever that is)
being white or black ?  It seems like this would matter.

/Eric
2034.2Re: .1FLOYD::YODERMFYMon Mar 25 1996 14:586
>Does this mean there's an even chance of the "counter" (whatever that is)
being white or black ?  It seems like this would matter.

Yes, it does.  Dodgson's answers depend on unstated a priori assumptions like
this which aren't necessarily sound.  They are (barely) acceptable as a
convention, but modern conventions would usually require more explicitness.
2034.3I think it matters tooWIBBIN::NOYCEEV5 issues 4 instructions per meterMon Mar 25 1996 15:0321
> 5. A bag contains one counter, known to be either white or black.
> A white counter is put in, the bag shaken, and a counter drawn out,
> which proves to be white.  What is now the chance of drawing a 
> white counter?

If I initially believed the probability of the bag holding a white counter to
be p, then we have the following cases:

p/2:     I draw the same counter I put in, and the remaining one is white.
(1-p)/2: I draw the same counter I put in, and the remaining one is black.
p/2:     I draw the original counter (white), and the one I put in remains.
(1-p)/2: I draw the original counter (black), and the one I put in remains.

The fourth case is eliminated, since the counter I drew proved to be white.
Of the remaining cases, the probability that a white counter remains in the
bag is
	2p / (1+p)

If p=1/2, then we have a 2/3 chance that a white counter remains, which makes
sense because the four cases above are all equally likely.
	-- Bill