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Title:Mathematics at DEC
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Created:Mon Feb 03 1986
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1868.0. "Crux Mathematicorum 1935" by RUSURE::EDP (Always mount a scratch monkey.) Tue Apr 26 1994 16:14

    Proposed by Murry S. Klamkin, University of Alberta.
    
    Given an ellipse which is not a circle, prove or disprove that the
    locus of the midpoints of sufficiently small constant length chords is
    another ellipse.
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1868.1Dispoof ;-)UTROP1::BEL_MMichel Bel@UTO - TelecommieThu Apr 28 1994 09:1612
    Nope, take chords equal to the short axis. Proof by drawing:
    Just draw from each of the endpoints of the short axis three chords:
    The short axis, plus one to each side of the ellipse like drawn below.
    The locus bifurcates at the center of the ellipse.
    Note that this is always possible. Chords approximating the length of
    the short axis get the same problem.
    
      xxxxxcxxxxx
     x   c c   c x
    x   c  c  c   x
     x c   c c    x
      xxxxxcxxxxxx
1868.2RUSURE::EDPAlways mount a scratch monkey.Thu Apr 28 1994 12:4014
    Re .1:
    
    The problem calls for proof for chords of sufficiently small length. 
    That is, you must prove that, for a given ellipse, there does not exist
    a positive number c such that the locus of midpoints of chords of
    length d, where d < c, is an ellipse.

    
    				-- edp
    
    
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1868.3Yes, ellipsHERON::BLOMBERGTrapped inside the universeMon May 02 1994 09:3510
	How about this:

	Project the ellips onto a circle. The property of being
	mid-point of a chord survives this projection. On the
	circle, it's trivial that the mid-points of a fixed-length
	chords describes another circle. Reproject this circle on
	the plane of the original ellips and we have another ellips.

	/Ake
1868.4RUSURE::EDPAlways mount a scratch monkey.Mon May 02 1994 12:5313
    Re .3:
    
    That's a good idea, but the projection alters the lengths of the
    chords, so a set of chords of a specific length on the circle does not
    project back to a set of chords of all the same length on the ellipse.
    
    
    				-- edp
    
    
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1868.5RUSURE::EDPAlways mount a scratch monkey.Tue Jun 13 1995 17:5333
    Combined solutions of Jordi Dou, Barcelona, Spain, and the proposer.
    
    The locus is _not_ another ellipse (unless the given ellipse is a
    circle).  Let the ellipse E satisfy the equation
    
    	x^2 / a^2 + y^2 / b^2 = 1,
    
    and let L be the locus of the midpoints of the chords of E having
    constant length 2k.  Note that the axes of E are axes of symmetry for
    the locus L.  If these axes meet L in C, C' and D, D', then (by
    plugging (c,k) and (k,d) into the equation for E)
    
    	c^2 = a^2 / b^2 * (b^2-k^2),	d^2 = b^2 / a^2 * (a^2-k^2),
    
    where 2c = CC' and 2d = DD'.  By Holditch's theorem [1] the areas E and
    L of the regions bounded by E and L satisfy
    
    	L = E - pi*k^2,
    
    so that
    
    	L^2 = (pi ab - pi k^2)^2 = pi^2 (a^2 b^2 - 2abk^2 + k^4).
    
    An ellipse whose vertices are C, C', D, D' would surround an area of A
    = pi cd so that
    
    	A^2 = pi^2 (a^2 b^2 - (a^2+b^2)k^2 + k^4).
    
    Since L^2 - A^2 = pi^2 (a-b)^2 k^2, the area surrounded by L exceeds
    the area surrounded by this new ellipse whenever a != b and k != 0.
    
    
    [1] Arne Broman, Holditch's Theorem, Math. Mag. 54:3 (1981) 99-108.