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Conference rusure::math

Title:Mathematics at DEC
Moderator:RUSURE::EDP
Created:Mon Feb 03 1986
Last Modified:Fri Jun 06 1997
Last Successful Update:Fri Jun 06 1997
Number of topics:2083
Total number of notes:14613

1344.0. "Expected ratio of sexes where one is prefered" by DECWET::BISHOP (Yakudoshi!) Fri Nov 30 1990 23:29


    Here is one that is not very hard, but the result is sort of
    counter intuitive:

    On the planet of Yreva, there is a cultural bias in favor of
    female offspring (contrast to China), but also to having as few
    offspring as possible.  Given that each couple stops having
    children as soon as they have a girl, what is the ratio of males
    to females in the population?  Assume only single births (no
    twins, triplets, etc.), and that there is no limit to the number
    of offspring a couple can produce.

    Case 1) P(girl) = P(boy) = 0.5

    Case 2) P(girl) = p; P(boy) = q.
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1344.1GUESS::DERAMODan D'EramoSat Dec 01 1990 01:5325
        I'll do case two, with P(girl) = p, P(boy) = q.
        
        With probability p a couple will have zero boys and one
        girl.
        
        With probability qp a couple will have one boy and one
        girl.
        
        With probability q^2 p a couple will have two boys and
        one girl.
        
        In general, with probability q^n p a couple will have n
        boys and one girl, n = 0, 1, 2, ....
        
        So each couple has an expectation of one girl child and
        0 p + 1 q p + 2 q^2 p + 3 q^3 p + ... boy child(ren). 
        This series sums to (pq / (1-q)^2), or, as 1-q = p, to
        (pq / p^2) or q/p boys.
        
        Now, I'm not sure how far off of 50/50 the population can
        get, if one assumes that only mixed gender couples are
        having children.  But N couples would have an expected
        value of Nq/p boys and N girls.
        
        Dan
1344.2no sums neededHERON::BUCHANANcombinatorial bomb squadSat Dec 01 1990 10:5110
	The ratio of male babes to female babes is independent of the
"culture".   If P(male) = p, and P(female) = q, and p+q = 1, then the
ratio will be p:q.

	Think of it from the stork's perspective.   Each baby he "delivers"
will have exactly prob p of being male.   Which family that baby goes to,
and how many babes are already there is entirely irrelevant.

Regards,
Andrew.
1344.3Nothing short of infanticide will change the ratioDECWET::BISHOPGaijin wa tsurai yo.Mon Dec 10 1990 23:2710
	
	On first consideration it seems that the couples are favoring girls,
	so there should be more of them than boys.  However, as .2 points
	out, you can't fool "mother" nature, so the ratio is unchanged, no
	matter what the strategy is.  .1 showed it for this case. 

	That was too easy.  I'm still trying to find a challenging problem
	to post that doesn't require a PhD just to comprehend.

	Avery
1344.4working on itDNEAST::BARNABY_GALENY1T...NEWPORT,MAINETue Dec 11 1990 04:012
    re.3
    please do.