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Conference rusure::math

Title:Mathematics at DEC
Moderator:RUSURE::EDP
Created:Mon Feb 03 1986
Last Modified:Fri Jun 06 1997
Last Successful Update:Fri Jun 06 1997
Number of topics:2083
Total number of notes:14613

1152.0. "Tractrix" by DEC25::ROBERTS (Reason, Purpose, Self-esteem) Tue Nov 21 1989 19:03

    I used to be able to do this with my eyes tied behind my back. Now,
    it's more of a struggle.
    
    Imagine a string, one unit in length, initially placed on the X-Y
    coordinate system such that one end, A, is located at (0,0) and the
    other end, B, is located at (0,1). What are the coordinates of B after
    the string has been pulled by end A along the X-axis to (t,0)?
    
    /Dwayne
    
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1152.1KOBAL::GILBERTOwnership ObligatesTue Nov 21 1989 19:5813
1152.2Cat & MouseDEC25::ROBERTSReason, Purpose, Self-esteemWed Nov 22 1989 14:2017
    RE: 1152.1

    "I assume that what you really want has all the 'drag' at B, not along
    the length of the string."

    Quite right.

    Another way to express the problem is:

    Mickey Mouse leaves his house and takes a walk due east. Sylvester the
    cat, initially one unit north of Mickey, stalks him, remaining exactly
    1 unit distant. At any instant, Sylvester is always moving directly
    toward Mickey. Where is Sylvester when Mickey is t units away from
    home?

    /Dwayne

1152.3Looked it upAKQJ10::YARBROUGHI prefer PiWed Nov 22 1989 17:5810
The equation of a tractrix symmetric about the y-axis and asymptotic to the 
x-axis is
	 2                         2  2  2
	x  = (a arccosh(a/y)-sqrt(a -y ))

where a>0 is the height of the curve above the x-axis at x=0.
(From Bronshtein & Semendyayev, 'Handbook of Mathematis', p.85). 
Yeah, it's messy.

Lynn 
1152.4DEC25::ROBERTSReason, Purpose, Self-esteemWed Nov 22 1989 19:334
    Is anyone able to derive it?
    
    /Dwayne
    
1152.5Derive by showing it works?VMSDEV::HALLYBThe Smart Money was on GoliathWed Nov 22 1989 19:341
    Should you be able to differentiate .3 and get .1 ?
1152.6AITG::DERAMODon't stop short of the peak!Wed Nov 22 1989 20:026
>>    Should you be able to differentiate .3 and get .1 ?

	I believe so, with a = 1.  If not, one of them is
	probably wrong.

	Dan
1152.7KOBAL::GILBERTOwnership ObligatesWed Nov 22 1989 20:092
    Yes, that fits the equation in .1 nicely.  Note that it's most easily
    done with x treated as a function of y.