Conference rusure::math

The VMS version of Mathematica is still a few months away, although the 
ULTRIX version may be available now. In the meantime, we do have MAPLE,
for which V4.3 is coming within a few weeks.

Lynn Yarbrough 

    Will a Maple 4.3 be available on RISC processors?

    - Jim

Offhand, I don't see why not, since it's written in C. But will WATCOM 
deliver a RISC version to us? Don't know.

Lynn 

The Mathematica press release includes the following lines:

" Ship dates :                                              
                Mathematica RISC ULTRIX           January  
                Mathematica VAX ULTRIX            February 
                Mathematica VMS                   TBD      "

Doesn't say which year :-)

Lynn

    The Dec 25 issue of Sales Update has an announcement for V1.2 (RISC)
    of Mathematica. 

    PRICING/ORDERING INFORMATION
    
    Processor		Model No.	   U.S. List Price
    ---------		--------	   ---------------
    
    DECstation 2100	QL-YECAA-XX		$2,800
    DECstation 3100	QL-YECAA-XX		 2,800

    DECsystem 3100	QL-YECAN-XX		 8,485
    DECsystem 5400	QL-YECAS-XX		14,424
    DECsystem 5810	QL-YECA2-XX		22,570
    DECsystem 5820	QL-YECA3-XX		28,255

    AVAILABILITY

    Mathematica, for the RISC family of computers, is currently available
    through the normal ordering channels.

    Note: The VAX ULTRIX version and the VMS version availability is
    Q3/FY90.


    Bill

    What has been the situation with other products that DEC only
    distributes?  Have they been available free of cost over the E-NET for
    internal use?
    
    I assume that -.1 gives prices for external use.
    
    					Sieg

    
    For information on licensing issues with Mathematica, you can contact
    the Digital product manager, Mary Raczkowski.   She is on
    ABACUS::RACZKOWSKI or at dtn 264-3753.     She can tell you the price
    for Digital employees as well as schedules for future releases.
    
    
    Regards,
    
    Steve Harrington
    Wolfram Research CMP Business Manager
    
        

 i sent an inquiry to Mary R., the reply follows (same $ as posted in -.2)
    
From:	ABACUS::RACZKOWSKI "12-Mar-1990 1756" 12-MAR-1990 18:14:32.85
To:	QUIVER::COUCOUVITIS,DUGGAN::HARRINGTON
CC:	
Subj:	MATHEMATICA

Art,

I received your request for Pricing of Mathematic, and the Employees
discount.

Currently we are shipping Mathematica on all the RISC platforms, the Ultrix
version is currently on hold, and it is expected to be released shortly.

When you order the Product, you will have to order a License and then the
Documentation and Media.  If you will let me know which machine you are
going to be using Mathematica on, I will be more than happy to send you
the appropriate part numbers and associated costs you can expect to be
transfered to your Cost Center.

You would have to pay the Royalty charge for the license, and the transfer
costs for the documentation and media (doc and media costs are approximately
$75.00, costs for the license depends on the cpu.

I would be more than happy to send you the current list prices and
associated Royalty charges for you to put into the NOTES files.


Part Number	Processor			List Price	Internal $

QL-YECAA-AA	DECstation 3100/2100		2,800.00	 $1400.00
QL-YECAN-AA	DECsystem 3100			8,486.00	  4243.00
QL-YECAS-AA	DECsystem 5400		       14,424.00	  7212.00
QL-YECA2-AA	DECsystem 5810		       22,570.00	 11285.00 
QL-YECA3-AA	DECsystem 5820		       28,255.00	 14127.50

QA-YECAA-H5	DOCUMENTATION AND MEDIA KITS FOR TK50	            75.00
QA-YECAA-HM     DOCUMENTATION AND MEDIA KITS FOR MAG TAPE	    75.00

Please let me know if I can be of further assistance.

Mary
    

The May 14 issue of Sales Update announced availability of Mathematica on
VAX/VMS systems. Prices range from $2400 on VAXstation platforms to about $70K
on a VAX 6000-460 (no VAX 9000 prices were given). Based on previous replies
to this note I'd guess that its available internally for $1200 on a VAXstation.

    I recently took a course in c through NTU. Prof. Hill stated that
    Mathematica will be offered some time in August. Has anyone heard
    anything about this?
    
    Dave

	  I'm interested in using Mathematica for a grad course that
	I am taking - ULowell has about 2 copies running on
	unerpowered machines. Is there anybody who has Mathematica
	running on a machine and would be willing to let me use it?
	I'm located in ZKO, so that would most convenient (either
	from the standpoint of setting a display over the net or
	working directly on the machine itself).

	  This would be strictly after-hours usage. If you can help,
	please send me mail at VIA::SWONGER.

	Roy

    
    I took the course offered at WPI a couple years back and it was excellent.
    Mathematica was not available at the school yet and he was forced to
    use Macsyma. I think he may be using Mathematica these days.
    

    Can any tell me with whom I should talk to about getting Mathematica?  I
    tried contacting Mary Raczkowski, but with no luck.
    
    Thanks,
    Dennis

    Do you want it for Digital or yourself?  I got the IBM-PC-compatible
    student version for $175 by calling Wolfram at 1-217-398-0700.  (The
    student version does not have coprocessor support and is packaged
    differently, but is otherwise functionally identical, according to
    Wolfram.)
    
    
    				-- edp

    .-1
    
    Erick, how do you like the mma on the PC? i mean compared to say Maple
    for the PC? any specific reasons why you got mms and not MAPLE for the PC? 
    since they have student edition also for MAPLE,  iam getting a new PC 
    myself and I want to get either mma or MAPLE for it, not sure which...
    
    \nasser

    Re .15:
    
    I got Mathematica because it's had more power longer, although Maple is
    apparently catching up.  It's also got a Windows interface.  I can't
    tell you how I like it though, because I don't have any hardware yet. 
    (My system should be ready next week.)
    
    I've only read the Windows interface manual, but it gives me some
    concerns.  First, the interface does not understand mathematical
    objects.  It can import, export, and display expressions in both plain
    text and formatted expression form and do the same for graphs and other
    images, but it does not understand the objects well enough that it can
    help you select subexpressions.  E.g., you cannot navigate through
    existing expressions by using cursor keys to move up or down through
    levels of operators or left or right through operands.  You can of
    course select subexpressions by picking out the text yourself, but a
    premiere math package ought to do more for you.
    
    The interface manual also says the Mathematica kernel will die if it
    runs out of space.  That sounds pretty lame to me; it ought to just
    give up the current work without losing existing context.
    
    On the other hand, there's no Windows interface for Maple yet.  Given
    that the student package is only $99, I may buy it after they complete
    a Windows interface.
    
    I'm also curious about MathCAD's capabilities.  (Anybody got a phone
    number for the publisher?)  I haven't heard anything about Macsyma in a
    while.
    
    
    				-- edp

    .16

    phone number for MATHCAD is 1-800-688-8553. be careful, it should
    be ONLY $79 for the whole thing! there is a special going on, they
    call it the "preferred Engineer/scientist discount program", i think
    that is going on till March. i think you must have received in mail
    from them this invitation for this price to get it, but try to
    ask them on the phone, may be they'll give it to you.

    \nasser

    re. .14:
    
    I don't have a PC at home, so I would like to run it on my workstation
    (DECstation 5000/25) here at work.  I don't see it being for my
    personal use.  It could be installed on the host system so that anyone
    with access could use it.  There are IBM-compatible PCs in the lab
    I could use if need be.
    
    Is there someone in DEC I should contact or should I call Wolfram
    directly?
    
    Dennis

    Re .17:
    
    There's an ad in the 12 January PC Magazine for a free Mathcad Working
    Model which includes a demo and is "fully functional".  I don't see the
    catch, but I've sent for a copy.
    
    
    Re .18:
    
    I would call Wolfram directly and inquire.
    
    
    				-- edp