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Conference rusure::math

Title:Mathematics at DEC
Moderator:RUSURE::EDP
Created:Mon Feb 03 1986
Last Modified:Fri Jun 06 1997
Last Successful Update:Fri Jun 06 1997
Number of topics:2083
Total number of notes:14613

850.0. "trig question/proof?" by GORP::MARCOTTE (George Marcotte SWS Santa Clara) Thu Mar 31 1988 22:20

    
    
    I was reading a book on plotting for sailing. One of the methods
    use to maintain a save distance from rocks was to use the angle between
    to points:
                            points a and c are land marks and are on the 
         __|__              chart. If you draw a circle 
    boat \___/              through points a b and c and move point b along
           *b               the arc of the drawn circle will the angle <abc
                            remain constant?  The book on plotting says it 
                            will.  The Idea is to create a circle on the 
                                   chart that is outside the rocks then measure
                       x                    the angle on the chart between 
                     x  rocks     /------\  a b c. Then use a sextant to measure
        ------\                  /   c*   \     actual points. If the angle is
       /  *a   \----------------/          \    larger than the one calculated 
                                            \   from the chart your in trouble.

    Can anyone prove this?
    That is: prove that the vertex angel formed by three points on a circle 
    will remain constant as the vertex point is allowed to move along the
    circle and the other two points are fixed.
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850.1the easy caseZFC::DERAMOTake my advice, I'm not using itFri Apr 01 1988 00:118
    Well, if point a and point c are opposite ends of a diameter,
    then as b moves along the circle angle abc is always a right
    angle.
    
    If points a and c are not opposite ends of a diameter, well,
    this is just too much geometry for two days!
    
    Dan
850.2here's a sketch of proofPULSAR::WALLYWally Neilsen-SteinhardtMon Apr 11 1988 16:2420
    Yes, the theorem in .0 is true and provable.  I don't think I could
    give the full proof without a diagram, but here is a sketch:
    
    	Given points ABCD on a circle with center O.
    
    	Then there are 5 isosceles triangles OAD, OAB, OAC, OCD, OBC.
    	
    	This leads to 5 equalities among angles.
    
    	And there are two equalities based on the fact that the sum
	of angles in any two triangles, and therefore ABC and ADC, is
    	constant.
    
    	There are two more equalities based on angles contained within
    	angles (here's where the diagram is necessary).
    
    	Combine all these equalities in the right way and you get
    
    		<ABC = <ADC
    	
850.3almost got itGORP::MARCOTTEGeorge Marcotte SWS Santa ClaraMon Apr 11 1988 21:4929
>    	Given points ABCD on a circle with center O.
>      	Then there are 5 isosceles triangles OAD, OAB, OAC, OCD, OBC.
>    	This leads to 5 equalities among angles.


      well <oab = <oba
           <obc = <ocb
           <OCD = <ODC
           <OAD = <ODA
    That is 4 whats the 5th one?
    
>      	And there are two equalities based on the fact that the sum
>	of angles in any two triangles, and therefore ABC and ADC, is
>    	constant.

    I can see that:
       <ABC + <ADC + <bad + <dcb = 360 
    how is <ABC and <ADC constant?
    
>    	There are two more equalities based on angles contained within
>    	angles (here's where the diagram is necessary).
    
    name an example

    
    Its been tooooooo long...
    
     George :-)
    
850.4more hintsPULSAR::WALLYWally Neilsen-SteinhardtTue Apr 12 1988 17:0524
re: < Note 850.3 by GORP::MARCOTTE "George Marcotte SWS Santa Clara" >
                               -< almost got it >-

>    That is 4 whats the 5th one?

    	<OAC = <OCA

>    how is <ABC and <ADC constant?
    
    What is constant is the sum of angles in a triangle:
    
    	<ABC + <ACB + <BAC = <ADC + <ACD + <DAC 
    
>>    	There are two more equalities based on angles contained within
>>    	angles (here's where the diagram is necessary).
    
>    name an example

    	<ABC = <ABO - <CBO
    
    Note that the sign here depends on the way I drew the diagram, since
    I follow the Euclidean convention that all angles are positive.
    If you draw a different diagram, your sign may be different, but
    the proof will still work out.