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Title:Mathematics at DEC
Moderator:RUSURE::EDP
Created:Mon Feb 03 1986
Last Modified:Fri Jun 06 1997
Last Successful Update:Fri Jun 06 1997
Number of topics:2083
Total number of notes:14613

673.0. "Vector dot and cross product" by SMAUG::THOMPSON () Mon Mar 02 1987 23:55

A trivial question for you math experts...

I learned to use two mathematical tools but never really understood why
they existed. In partcular the vector dot product and the vector cross
product. So the question is what are these vector products? Discovery
or invention?

Their obvious use in field problems is to determine the magnitude and
direction of force, but did these vector products predict the right handed
system, or were right handed systems "fitted" to the discovery?


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673.1ENGINE::ROTHTue Mar 03 1987 03:1023
    Discovery or invention?  I'm sure it's a little of both.  However,
    the mathematical meaning is surely pure invention.

    In particular, when you take the dot product of two vectors,
    it is most accurate to think of one of the vectors as a linear
    functional operating on the other one to produce a scalar.
    It just happens that the space of linear functionals is also
    a vector space in its own right, so in engineering you can actually
    be unaware of the difference most of the time.  But whenever
    you take a dot product, you are really combining a differential
    form (which is like the contour lines on a map) with a true vector -
    and the density of the contour lines crossed by your vector is the
    scalar answer that comes out.

    Also, its an interesting coincedance that the cross product is
    isomorphic to a vector in 3 dimensions (this is called the Hodge
    isomorphism in tensor analysis) - but this is not true if N is not
    equal to 3.

    Handedness is an interesting subject - does anyone remember the
    'spinor spanner'?

    - Jim
673.2A back-handed reply...CHOVAX::YOUNGBack from the Shadows Again,Tue Mar 03 1987 03:3815
    The handedness is related to your co-ordinate system.  By convention
    we use a right-handed co-ordinate system, so we get right handed
    cross products.  Use a left-handed co-ordinate system and you'll
    get left-handed cross products.
    
    My favorite part of vector products was the discovery that the "triple
    product":
    		(A x B) . C
    				of 3-dimensional vectors is not only
    commutative (unlike most vector products), but the scalar result
    is equal to the volume of the parallepiped defined by the same 3
    vectors in 3-space.
    
    
    --  Barry