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Conference rusure::math

Title:Mathematics at DEC
Moderator:RUSURE::EDP
Created:Mon Feb 03 1986
Last Modified:Fri Jun 06 1997
Last Successful Update:Fri Jun 06 1997
Number of topics:2083
Total number of notes:14613

507.0. "The Story of Jill and Dave" by ZEPPO::DAY () Wed Jun 11 1986 14:19

		   The Story of Jill and Dave

	           A Tale of Frustrated Love
		     (with a Happy Ending)

    Jill and Dave are at two places on a straight road.  Jill starts
    walking toward Dave and arrives at Dave's original place 11
    minutes after Dave had left.  Dave (starting at perhaps a
    different time) walks toward Jill and arrives at Jill's original
    place 15 minutes after Jill had left.  When each reaches the
    other's original place, he or she immediately starts back, and
    they meet in the center at 4:00 p.m.

    Assuming that they walk at constant (but perhaps differing) rates,
    when did each start to travel on the road?


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507.1BEING::POSTPISCHILAlways mount a scratch monkey.Wed Jun 11 1986 15:3426
    Let Jill start at time 0, position 0.  Let Dave start at time t,
    position d.
    
    > Jill starts walking toward Dave and arrives at Dave's original place 11
    > minutes after Dave had left. 
    
    Let v = Jill's velocity.  Then d/v = t + 11 minutes.
    
    > Dave (starting at perhaps a different time) walks toward Jill and
    > arrives at Jill's original place 15 minutes after Jill had left. 
    
    Let w = Dave's velocity.  Then d/w = 15 minutes.
    
    > When each reaches the other's original place, he or she immediately
    > starts back, and they meet in the center at 4:00 p.m. 
    
    Let T be the total time taken (it also represents 4:00 p.m.) since
    Jill started.  By this time, Jill and Dave have both walked the
    distance d, turned around, and walked to the center, for a total
    distance of 3/2 d, so (T-t)w = 3/2d = Tv.
    
    These equations are fairly simple to solve; Jill started at 3:25:30
    and Dave started at 3:37:30.
    
    
    				-- edp
507.2slow down, DaveLATOUR::JMUNZERWed Jun 11 1986 15:593
    But, in .1, Dave will turn at 3:40:30, and try to meet Jill at 3:42.
    
    John
507.3re .1ZEPPO::DAYWed Jun 11 1986 15:595
    
    Something is wrong somewhere - that's not quite it.
    

    
507.4CorrectionBEING::POSTPISCHILAlways mount a scratch monkey.Wed Jun 11 1986 16:4927
    Let Jill start at time 0, position 0.  Let Dave start at time t,
    position d.
    
    > Jill starts walking toward Dave and arrives at Dave's original place 11
    > minutes after Dave had left. 
    
    Let v = Jill's velocity.  Then d/v = t + 11 minutes.
    
    > Dave (starting at perhaps a different time) walks toward Jill and
    > arrives at Jill's original place 15 minutes after Jill had left. 
    
    Let w = Dave's velocity.  Then d/w = 15-t minutes.  (I had d/w = 15
    here.) 
    
    > When each reaches the other's original place, he or she immediately
    > starts back, and they meet in the center at 4:00 p.m. 
    
    Let T be the total time taken (it also represents 4:00 p.m.) since
    Jill started.  By this time, Jill and Dave have both walked the
    distance d, turned around, and walked to the center, for a total
    distance of 3/2 d, so (T-t)w = 3/2d = Tv.
    
    These equations are fairly simple to solve; Jill started at 3:39
    and Dave started at 3:42.
    
    
    				-- edp
507.5What a long walk....VOGON::CATTERMOULRichard REO F/M8 830-4564Wed Jun 18 1986 16:075
    A nice puzzle to do during the morning coffee break.
    Jill starts off at 8.42 p.m. the previous evening
    Dave starts off a little earlier at 8.31 p.m. 
    [Solution available on request]
    Clue: similar triangles on a distance/time graph.