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Conference rusure::math

Title:Mathematics at DEC
Moderator:RUSURE::EDP
Created:Mon Feb 03 1986
Last Modified:Fri Jun 06 1997
Last Successful Update:Fri Jun 06 1997
Number of topics:2083
Total number of notes:14613

383.0. "flying to work" by SPRITE::OSMAN () Wed Nov 20 1985 19:32

Here's a puzzle I just made up:

	Suppose you're late to work, so you take your half-finished
	cup of coffee in the car.

	To get to work as soon as possible, you drive a straight road as
	fast as you can manage without spilling any coffee.

	You get to work in a record-breaking 2 minutes, and *just*
	make it on time.

	Assuming the coffee cup is exactly as high as it is wide,
	how far is work from home ?

/Eric
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383.1BEING::POSTPISCHILWed Nov 20 1985 20:167
It's about 21.8 miles to work.  This assumes the cup is cylindrical, the
surface of the Earth is a plane, the cup is positioned vertically throughout
the trip, and the coffee manages not to spill when you change from
acceleration to deceleration.


				-- edp
383.2R2ME2::GILBERTThu Nov 21 1985 00:3127
383.3METOO::YARBROUGHThu Nov 21 1985 12:033
I think Peter has confused his constants. The coffee will sustain a 1g
horizontal acceleration, which is 9.8 m/s^2 or 32 f/sec^2, not 32m/s^2.
The result in .1 sounds right. - Lynn 
383.4REX::MINOWThu Nov 21 1985 13:2011
Sorry to bring reality into the picture, but

1. You must compensate for Corolis forces.

2. You must compensate for Sun/Moon tides as your position changes.

3. At the instants when accelleration changes, you must compensate
   for the kind of coffee and amount of sugar (or for the viscosity
   of the fluid, if you want to be picky).

Have at it.
383.5SPRITE::OSMANThu Nov 21 1985 14:3424
"Sorry to bring reality into the picture, but"

You all forgot to *drink* some of the coffee during the trip, which would
of course allow more accelaration.

No, only kidding, but it's interesting that when I asked my girlfriend this
puzzle, she brought that aspect up immediately, and I might mention she's not
very mathematically inclined.

When I formulated the problem, I forgot to consider deccelarating at all.
With the simple accelerate all the way case, I calculated an answer of
72 km.  Do others agree ?

	My formula is d = 1/2 * a * t**2.  a = 10, t = 60*2, so
	    d = 1/2 * 10 * 120**2 = 5 * 14400 = 72000 m = 72 km.

By the way, I don't believe the cup need by cylindrical.  For instance,
a cubical cup ought yield same answer, right ?  However, perhaps only
certain orientations of the cubical cup are optimal.  For instance,
intuitively, I'd say by symmetry that if face or edge is forward, we're
o.k., but what about intermediate rotations ?  (obviously we need to hold
all coffee cups level though)

/Eric
383.6TOOLS::YARBROUGHThu Nov 21 1985 16:025
re .5 - for two minutes it's 120 seconds, so 1/2 g t^2 is 4 times larger
than that, or 16*14400 ft.

A cube IS a cylinder. Any cylinder with central or front-back symmetry will 
do.
383.7TOOLS::STANThu Nov 21 1985 19:521
"coreolis".
383.8HARE::GILBERTThu Nov 21 1985 20:1827
383.9ADVAX::J_ROTHThu Nov 21 1985 20:211
No, "Coriolis".
383.10SPRITE::OSMANFri Nov 22 1985 13:1414
>re .5 - for two minutes it's 120 seconds, so 1/2 g t^2 is 4 times larger
>than that, or 16*14400 ft.
>
>A cube IS a cylinder. Any cylinder with central or front-back symmetry will 
>do.

First of all, I think you're working in feet, and I'm working in metric.
Are both of our answers correct ?

Secondly, since when is a cube a cylinder ??  I thought a cylinder's definition
is a *circle* projected through space.  Or is a cylinder really considered
by definition to be *anything* projected through space ?

/Eric
383.11TURTLE::GILBERTFri Nov 22 1985 16:021
My dictionary has a definition for "cylinder", doesn't yours?
383.12SPRITE::OSMANFri Nov 22 1985 17:591
no
383.13AJAX::CALLASFri Nov 22 1985 20:098
Well, here's what mine says:

cyl-in-der n. 1. a. a surface generated by a straight line moving parallel
to a fixed straight line and intersecting a plane curve. b. a solid bounded
by two parallel planes and such a surface having a closed curve, esp. a circle.
2. Something shaped like a cylinder. 3. A chamber in which a piston moves.
4. The rotating chamber of a revolver that holds the cartidges.

383.14BEING::POSTPISCHILFri Nov 22 1985 20:387
Re .12:

I think you need a new dictionary.  The JOYOFLEX file contains some comments
about various dictionaries.


				-- edp
383.15SPRITE::OSMANThu Dec 19 1985 14:173
Please see note 412 for a related problem.

/Eric
383.16This is one for third graders!57151::KURLANDA mere rentalWed Dec 07 1988 16:0111
    RE: .1
    
    I assume edp's answer was correct for HIS ride to work
    
    31.2 miles is correct for MY ride to work
    
    I fell off my dinosaur when I first heard a problem similar to this.
    
    Reread the original question!!!!