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Title:Mathematics at DEC
Moderator:RUSURE::EDP
Created:Mon Feb 03 1986
Last Modified:Fri Jun 06 1997
Last Successful Update:Fri Jun 06 1997
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265.0. "Problems from Erdos" by HARE::STAN () Wed Apr 24 1985 18:57

I attended a lecture by Paul Erdos at the New York Geometry Seminar.
Here are some notes:

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For every n, there is an f(n) such that f(n) points in the plane
always determine a convex n-gon.  For example, f(4)=5.  That is,
given any 5 points in the plane, some 4 of them are the vertices
of a convex quadrilateral.  It is known that f(5)=9 and believed
that f(6)=17.  The main conjecture is that f(n)=2^(n-2)+1.
It is known that

		 n-2
		2    + 1  <=  f(n)  <=  binomial(2n-4,n-2) .

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Same problem, but now we want to determine a convex n-gon with no other
point of the set interior to it.  In this case it is known that
f(4)=5 and f(5)=10, but f(6) is unknown.  It has been proven that f(7)
does not exist.

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Szekeres has shown that 2^n points in the plane determine some angle of measure
greater than or equal to pi(1-1/n) radians.

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If you have n points in the plane that determine the minimum number
of different distances, must some 4 of the points determine 2 distances?

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Can you have n points in the plane in general position (no 3 on a line,
no 4 on a circle) such that 1 distance occurs 1 time, some other distance
occurs 2 times, some other distance occurs 3 times, ..., some distance
occurs n-1 times?  Configurations are known for n up to and including n=7.

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Given n points in the plane, no 3 on a line, no 4 on a circle, it
is conjectured that there are more than n distances determined.
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265.1LATOUR::AMARTINWed Apr 24 1985 22:523
Say, Stan, do you know what your Erdos number is?
				/AHM/THX

265.2HARE::STANWed Apr 24 1985 23:333
Having never published a paper with a collaborator, my Erdos number
is therefore 0.  I ate dinner with Erdos, though.  Does that qualify
me for anything?
265.3LATOUR::AMARTINThu Apr 25 1985 14:158
No, only he has a number of 0.  Since you have never coauthored a paper,
then your number would probably be undefined.

There was a story about this in AMM(?) (an old one).  It was on a discard
pile.  I noticed the article, and photocopied it.  I will see if it is
short enough to type in.
				/AHM

265.4AURORA::HALLYBThu Apr 25 1985 18:323
I have an Erdos number of 3.  Anybody wanna collaborate?

						John
265.5LATOUR::AMARTINThu May 02 1985 14:5233
                             The American
                         MATHEMATICAL MONTHLY
Volume 76						      Number 7
August-September						  1969

                          MATHEMATICAL NOTES
                        Edited by David Drasin

                    AND WHAT IS YOUR ERDOS NUMBER?
                  Casper Goffman, Purdue University

The great mathematician Paul Erdos has written joint papers with man
mathematicians.  This fact may lend some interest to the notion of
Erdos number which we are about to describe.

Let A and B be mathematicians, and let A(i), i=0, 1, ..., n, be
mathematicians with A(0)=A, A(n)=B, where A(i) has written at least
one joint paper with A(i+1), i=0, ..., n-1.  Then A(0), A(1), ...,
A(n) is called a chain of length n joining A to B.  The A-number of B,
nu(A;B), is the shortest length of all chains joining A to B.  If
there are no chains joining A to B, then nu(A;B)=+inf.  Moreover,
nu(A;A)=0.  Then nu(A;B)=nu(B;A) and nu(A;B)+nu(B;C)>=nu(A;C).

For the special case A = Erdos, we obtain the function nu(Erdos; . )
whose domain is the set of all mathematicians.

I was told several years ago that my Erdos number was 7.  It has
recently been lowered to 3.  Last year I saw Erdos in London and was
surprised to learn that he did not know that the function nu(Erdos; . )
was being considered.  When I told him the good news that my Erdos
number had just been lowered, he expressed regret that he had to leave
London the same day.  Otherwise, an ultimate lowering might have been
accomplished.