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Conference rusure::math

Title:Mathematics at DEC
Moderator:RUSURE::EDP
Created:Mon Feb 03 1986
Last Modified:Fri Jun 06 1997
Last Successful Update:Fri Jun 06 1997
Number of topics:2083
Total number of notes:14613

212.0. "3 base systems" by HARE::STAN () Mon Jan 21 1985 18:54

In note 209, Gilbert has found numbers that in one base are equal
to their reverse in another base.

This suggests a more general problem:

Find the smallest number that can be written in 3 different bases
and such that these 3 base representations are distinct
permutations of one another (not including the identity permutation).
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212.1MILOS::THIELTue Jan 22 1985 01:4012
The smallest such number with 3 digits is 11.

In base 3,  11 is 102
In base 5,  11 is 021
In base 9,  11 is 012

11 is obviously also a solution for numbers with n digits,
merely by prefixing zeroes.  But is there a smaller value
than 11 possible is more digits are present.  I doubt it
because the place values rise so fast.

All of this, of course, assumes an integral positive radix.
212.2HARE::STANTue Jan 22 1985 17:203
Good.

But now let's see one with no leading zeroes, please.
212.3STAR::THIELTue Jan 22 1985 23:197
With no leading zeroes, the minimal 3 digits answer is:

Base 13:	2C1 = 495
Base 17:	1C2 = 495
Base 21:	12C = 495

	where C is the digit (12)
212.4TOOLS::STANSat Oct 19 1985 02:421
Is it possible if we only allow circular permutations?
212.5R2ME2::GILBERTSun Oct 20 1985 22:053
Base 25:	825 = 5055
Base 31:	582 = 5055
Base 49:	258 = 5055