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Title:Mathematics at DEC
Moderator:RUSURE::EDP
Created:Mon Feb 03 1986
Last Modified:Fri Jun 06 1997
Last Successful Update:Fri Jun 06 1997
Number of topics:2083
Total number of notes:14613

105.0. "Geometry Problem III" by HARE::STAN () Mon Jul 30 1984 03:12

Newsgroups: net.math,net.puzzle
Path: decwrl!decvax!ittvax!dcdwest!sdcsvax!akgua!mcnc!ecsvax!pizer
Subject: Geometry Puzzle III
Posted: Wed Jul 11 12:42:44 1984

Just to keep you on your toes, I have ANOTHER problem, this one I have yet to
solve, although I've just about got it (decided to put it up before din-din).
This figure is more difficult to draw, so read through the description before
trying to draw it.  First start with right triangle ABC, where A is rt. and
where AC is the longer leg.  Then draw point D on side AC, such that DB=DC.
Finally, draw point F on BC such that AF is perpendicular to BC, and such that
CF=CD.  Given: BD=DC=FC=1 and that AB is prpndclr to AC and that AF is
prpndclr to BC, FIND:  AC.  Good luck, leave answer in radical form.

Billy Pizer
(pizer@ecsvax)
{look out M.C.!}
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105.1HARE::STANMon Jul 30 1984 03:1369
Newsgroups: net.math,net.puzzle
Path: decwrl!decvax!ittvax!dcdwest!sdcsvax!akgua!mcnc!ecsvax!pizer
Subject: Solution to Geometry III
Posted: Sun Jul 15 07:24:22 1984

References: <ecsvax.2915>

Here's the solution to the third problem:

#3
>>First start with right triangle ABC, where A is rt.  and where AC is the
>>longer leg.  Then draw point D on side AC, such that DB=DC.  Finally, draw
>>point F on BC such that AF is perpendicular to BC, and such that CF=CD.  Given:
>>BD=DC=FC=1 and that AB is prpndclr to AC and that AF is prpndclr to BC, FIND:
>>AC.  Good luck, leave answer in radical form.

My solution to this problem was simple, but used a lot of algebra, it goes as
follows:

Let X=AC

AF = SQRT(AC^2 - FC^2)	  AF = SQRT(X^2 - 1)
BA = SQRT(BD^2 - AD^2)	  BA = SQRT(1 - (X-1)^2)
BF = SQRT(BA^2 - AF^2)	  BF = SQRT(1 - (X-1)^2 - (X^2 - 1))
BC = BF + FC		  BC = SQRT(1 - (X-1)^2 - (X^2 - 1)) + 1
BC^2 = BA^2 + AC^2

	   --BC^2--			  --BA^2--  --AC^2--
(SQRT(1 - (X-1)^2 - (X^2 - 1)) + 1)^2 = 1 - (X-1)^2 + X^2

(SQRT(1 - (X^2 - 2X + 1) - X^2 + 1) + 1)^2 = 1 - (X^2 - 2X + 1) + X^2
(SQRT(-2X^2 + 2X + 1) + 1)^2 = 2X
-2X^2 + 2X + 1 + 1 + 2SQRT(-2X^2 + 2X + 1) = 2X
2SQRT(-2X^2 + 2X + 1) = 2X^2 - 2
SQRT(-2X^2 + 2X + 1) = X^2 - 1
-2X^2 + 2X + 1 = X^4 - 2X^2 + 1
X^4 - 2X = 0
X^3 - 2 = 0 (X cannot be 0)
X^3 = 2
X = 2^1/3
 .   AC equals 2^(1/3)
. .  Q.E.D.

Another good answer was sent to me by Kamal Abdali (allegra!tekchips!abdali)
and goes as follows:

>Let the length AD be denoted by x, and the angle ACB by theta.  From the
>right triangle ACF, we get cos(theta) = CF/AC, i.e.
>	 cos(theta) = 1/(1+x).			    (1)
>The angle ADB equals the sum of angles DBC and DCB.  So angle ADB is
>2*theta.  From right triangle ADB, we get cos(2*theta) = AD/DB, i.e,
>	 cos(2*theta) = x.			     (2)
>Write c for cos(theta), hence 2*c^2-1 for cos(2*theta).  Then (1) and
>(2) become:
>	 c = 1/(1+x),	that is, x = 1/c - 1,
>	 2*c^2 - 1 = x.
>Combining, we get 2*c^2 = 1/c, i.e, c = 1 / 2^(1/3).  Now AC=AD+DC=1+x=1/c
>by (1).  Hence, the answer is AC = cuberoot(2).

Several other people sent me different methods of solving the problem, however,
much to my dismay, I don't have room to list their solutions.  Thank you to 
those people for taking the time to solve the problems and send me their ideas.


Billy Pizer
({decvax,akgua,ihnp4,burl}!mcnc!ecsvax!pizer)

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105.2HARE::STANMon Jul 30 1984 03:1338
Newsgroups: net.math
Path: decwrl!dec-rhea!dec-tonto!luong
Subject: Gemometry III puzzle solution
Posted: Mon Jul 16 14:26:51 1984

>Given right triangle ABC (A being the right angle), with point D on AC such
>that BD=CD=1, and AF being the perpendicular from A to BC. If CF=1, find AC.

Solution:	Let angle ACB = x 
--------
Since angle AFC is 90 degrees, we have :

	CF/AC = sin x   therefore, as CF=1:     AC = 1/cos x		(1)

Now, DC=DB, therefore angles DBC=DCB=x, and it follows that:

	angle BDA = 180 - BDC = 180 - (180-2x) 
	      BDA = 2x
Therefore:
	AD/BD = cos 2x 

Since BD=1  and   cos 2x = [2(cosx)(cosx) - 1] ,
	AD = [2(cosx)(cosx) - 1]
and:
	AC = AD + DC = [2(cosx)(cosx) - 1] + 1 = 2(cosx)(cosx)             (2)

Combining (1) and (2) gives:  1/cosx = 2(cosx)(cosx)
or:				cosx = (1/2)**(1/3)
and finally:
		AC = 1/cosx = 2**(1/3)         (third root of 2)
		   = 1.25992....



Van Luong Nguyen,
Digital Equipment Corporation,
Nashua, NH.