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Title: Weight Loss and Maintenance
Notice:**PLEASE** enter notes in mixed case (CAPS ARE SHOUTING)!
Moderator:ASICS::LESLIE
Created:Tue Jul 10 1990
Last Modified:Tue Jun 03 1997
Last Successful Update:Fri Jun 06 1997
Number of topics:933
Total number of notes:9931

168.0. "Where have all the Noters gone?" by NHL::ARNO () Fri Dec 11 1987 13:38

    
    
    Where have all the Noters gone?  Noone seems to be sharing 
    as much?  Are we too busy?  
    
    Some people may need the support this time of the year them
    anytime!!
    
    Some people are lonely and down this time of the year..
    
    Are some of us putting our Weight Programs on the back 
    burner?
    
    I just lose 8 pounds and I want to keep it going.
    
    Do you?
    
    Tis the season to be careful!!
    
    Ann
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168.1Noters are not all "Off the Wagon"SRFSUP::TERASHITACalifornia GirlFri Dec 11 1987 15:085
    I'm here!  I read this conference every day during lunch.  Keep
    on noting!
    
    Lynn
168.2Allee Allee In Free!!BOXTOP::BOONEFri Dec 11 1987 15:2912
    
              I'm here too!!  Read the conference almost everyday,
             but I haven't had a whole lot to say lately.
    
              I will definately try to be more *talkative* in the future.
    
                    :-)
    
    
              Chris
168.3I'm here too :-)ARGUS::CORWINI don't care if I AM a lemmingFri Dec 11 1987 15:3910
I'm here, too, read every day, and rarely write anymore.  I will try to do
better in the future.

Back in gear to lose again: a couple of re-losses, and a couple more new
ones when I reach that bridge...

thanks for keeping us honest, Ann, and great work with the 8!!

Jill
168.4I think it's the holidays...STAR::YANKOWSKASPaul YankowskasFri Dec 11 1987 16:4923
    You have a good point Ann -- with the rushing around that accompanies
    the Christmas season, there are undoubtedly some people who put their
    weightloss program "on the back burner" during the holidays. 
    
    At the Weight Watchers meeting I went to this past Wednesday,
    attendance was only about half of what it usually is.
    
    Also, if I had a dollar for every person who I've heard say "After
    the first of the year, I'm going on a diet", I'd be richer than
    if I hit Megabuck$.
    
    I'd be willing to bet that participation in this conference will
    go up dramatically after the first of the year.
    
    In the meantime, Ann, keep up the good work with your weightloss
    program.  Wouldn't it be great to record a nice loss over the next
    month, and see someone write in this file after the first of the
    year, "If Ann Arno can do it, I can do it too!".
    
    
    Paul
168.5Getting bigger unintentionally!SSDEVO::HILLIGRASSFri Dec 11 1987 17:4011
    I too have fallen victim to lazy noting in this file.   I became
    pregnant 3 months ago and no longer diet....just try to maintain.
    It was a little disappointing since I had just lost so much weight
    and then found out...poof...I was pregnant.  How did that happen?
    
    Well anyway I will try and be more active, and by the way Ann, I
    am thrilled to here how well you are doing!
    
                                    Have a great weekend!
                                            - Sue
168.6QBUS::WOODMet him on a MondayFri Dec 11 1987 18:0912
    
    	I'm still around too, altho I've been busy lately, both
    here at work and at home....so I probably won't contribute
    much til after the first of the year unless it's something
    that I just can't keep my mouth shut about!!  :^) 
    
    	I (for one) definitely need the support of this file and
    it's readers thru this month.  Holidays are hard for me.....
    so I'm glad this file is here.  It helps keep me on track! 
    
    	My
168.7reading the history books a little...ARGUS::CORWINI don't care if I AM a lemmingFri Dec 11 1987 20:2619
Yeah, Paul, too many people say "after the first of the year...", and then
nothing happens, but then again, I can't really imagine starting a diet
now, either!

And by the way, if anyone out there needs inspiration (we all do now, right?),
I want everyone to know that I reached my goal between Christmas and New
Year's last year!!  Matter of fact, I weighed in at the start of the new
WW session 1.5 pounds BELOW my goal.

And my goal for this year (well, next year...) is to do the same thing.
I just checked my records and I am at within a pound of where I was this time
last year!  Not particularly good news, since I'd been backsliding a bit,
but not horribly BAD either, huh?  (I lost 35 pounds to get to goal and
kept MOST of it off...)

So, let's get supportive!

Jill
168.8BUSY::KLEINBERGERHave a MAXCIMum Day!Fri Dec 11 1987 23:0626
    Well.. I'm here too (still moderating this file for you guys :-)...),
    but with MAXCIM coming live on the 28th of December, I don't have
    time to go to the bathroom, let alone read NOTEs during the day!...
    I will be so glad when the 28th of December gets here and the project
    goes live!... then my life can get real hectic, and I can then unstress
    myself a little....
    
    For an update.... I have been maintaining for 6 months now... will
    be flying out to Ottawa Canada the 23rd of December, and flying
    back the 27th of December (for MAXCIM turnon) to be at work on the
    28th. On the 28th, I am restarting my diet, and hope to lose another
    30 pounds, to put me at the beginning of my range instead of being
    at the almost tippy end of my range.
    
    Meanwhile.... its back to MAXCIM... I will continue to look in each
    night before I go to bed and "check" up on the conference for
    moderating duties, but probably won't write for at least several
    months, and CAN'T even think on going into notes until right before
    bedtime :-)...
    
    Until we meet again...
    
    Gale
    
    P.S. Hi Jill :-)
168.9Starting a diet now is super-hardRSTS32::KASPERCalm Down! It's Only 1's and 0's!Mon Dec 14 1987 12:1020
    Re: The "I'll diet after the holidays" syndrome:
    
    It's one thing, I think, to stick with a successful program through the
    holidays; it's much harder to start one now.  I missed the first Weight
    Watchers' meeting last week because I was out of town, but I'm psyched
    for it.  And yet, when I think about driving from NH to Ohio, and
    the quantity of food I'll be faced with while I'm there, it's a bit
    daunting.  Travel, especially by car, is a big problem for me.  I get
    *really* sick of salads, and my wheat allergy prevents me from eating
    much else at rest stops (not that they carry much that's good for you,
    anyway!).  
    
    I know, I should carry fruit and low-cal munchies, but somehow those
    never seem very interesting on a long trip.
    
    We shall see.  I'll just keep thinking of this conference!
    
    Beverly
168.10Be CarefulNHL::ARNOThu Dec 17 1987 09:1715
    
    
    My Weight Watcher leader said if your not aware of what you
    are eating over the Holidays you can easily gain 15 - 20 
    pounds..  That is scarey to me and makes me want to be 
    more careful..
    So we can still have fun but we also can use our heads and 
    not ruin all we did all year to lose...
    
    Good luck
    
    
    Ann
168.11It's really up to each of usRSTS32::VERGEThu Dec 17 1987 12:2217
    You're right, Ann, it is SOOOOOO easy to eat that handful of
    peanuts, and that one cookie, and that glass of wine, and some
    of those crackers with the yummy cheese, and some of the  . . 
    
    Oh, well.  This year, I'm not going to put the weight back on;
    I'm going to keep losing.  I only have 12.7 punds to go, and I'm
    not going to let anything mess me up this time!!!!  I have planned
    a menu with mysister-in-law for Christmas eve and Christmas day
    that will allow me to stay with the Weight Loss Clinic Program,
    while no one else will feel deprived of anything  - at this ppoint,
    it is up to me.
    
    Take care - and everybody be careful at those parties    :-)
    
    
    Val
168.12Weightloss Clinic ?NHL::ARNOFri Dec 18 1987 10:0211
    
    VAL,
    
    HOW Do you like that Weight loss Clinic ?  How much weight have
    you lost on it and would you advise it to anyone,, I know it
    cost alot.. 
    
    Ann
168.13WW During PregnancyWCSM::HOTTSat Dec 19 1987 00:1313
    Sue,
    
    Since it isn't commonly known, I thought I would pass along the
    info that Weight Watchers has a program for use during pregnancy.
    
    If you've lost a lot of weight and want to stay on a weight loss
    program or a well-defined maintenance program, you might like to
    check it out.
    
    They do ask you to check with your doctor for his agreement.
    
    					Donna
168.14RSTS32::VERGEThu Dec 24 1987 10:2324
    Ann, sorry this took so long - I have not been noting (too much
    shopping)!  I like the Weight Loss clinic - I have lost 33 pounds
    and have 12 more pounds to go - and that should be off by the end of
    January.  I am considering going another 10, but that remains to be
    seen.  It IS expensive, but it works for me, and for many different
    reasons.  One thing that helps is the monitoring every day, which gives
    a lot of support.  Also, I tend to have low blood sugar and I lose
    things like potassium (sp?) fast, and the nurses have helped me balance
    my program so that I feel good and am not sick all the time, which
    tends to happen to me when I "Cut bacK"  or whatever.  It is also
    easier for me right now to have a list of foods that I can eat, and
    those you CAN'T have - for now.  For me, a little bit gets bigger and
    bigger and bigger - and then I can't believe I ate the whole thing!!!!!
    
    It really works, and I can stick to it, and I get a lot of support and
    medical supervision, so I whole-heartedly reccommend it.  I went after
    a friend with some more severe health problems had great success with
    their program.  
    
    Take care , 
    and everyone have a good holiday!!!!
    
    Val
168.15DON'T REREAD THIS!!! It's a few days old.WORDS::KRISTYInsanity: the only alternativeMon Mar 14 1988 15:31420
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CSC32::G_MCINTOSH                                     5 lines   9-MAR-1988 13:16
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    The conference is awfully quiet now.  It was more fun when we were
    all disagreeing about what's good for you to eat and what's not,
    and what an appetite is, etc.   Just thought I'd say hi.
    
    Glenn
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STAR::YANKOWSKAS "Hi Mom!"                            9 lines   9-MAR-1988 13:27
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    re .0:
    
    Hi Glenn.  Yeah you're right, this conference has had very little
    activity these last few days.  Don't have any idea why.  Perhaps
    all the people who made New Year's resolutions to go on a diet have
    lost interest and enthusiasm....
                               
    
    Paul
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CSC32::G_MCINTOSH                                     3 lines   9-MAR-1988 14:32
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    Either that, Paul or they've already made their goal!
    
    Glenn
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RSTS32::KASPER "Ever have one of those lifetimes?"   12 lines   9-MAR-1988 17:48
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    All the New Year dieters are hitting the 2-month plateau, which is a
    drag.  I've been getting a lot of positive feedback from my husband,
    but it still gets harder every time I try to walk by the candy machine.
    
    I think it may have more to do with a general feeling of BLAH!  I know
    I've been fighting that; the 1/2 pound losses the last 3 weeks were
    mostly due to inertia.  I've developed better eating habits, and
    they're mostly sticking, but I just don't feel as inspired as I did.
    
    Beverly
    
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WONDER::COYLE "Only 48.8% of my former self!"         9 lines  10-MAR-1988 05:16
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    I hope they have all reached goal.  If that is it tell others about
    the coference; it obviously works better than we realized.
    
    On a serious note it does seem too quiet recently:
    
       ARE THERE ANY READERS ONLY LOOKING TO SAY SOMETHING - DO IT!
    
    -Joe (Who at tommorrows meeting finishes mantainance)
    
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VIDEO::VERGE                                         11 lines  10-MAR-1988 05:52
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    Hi - I'm still hanging around - went on "FREEZE" with my program
    for a few weeks to get over the flu and finish my Thesis for school
    - well, the thesis is finished; I still seem to have the flu :'(
    
    but: I am holding my own, not gaining, not losing, so didn't really
    have anything to say.
    
    PS.  Hang in there, Beverly, you're looking good!!!!!
    
    Val
     
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QBUS::WOOD "Met him on a Monday"                     14 lines  10-MAR-1988 09:12
                -< Hang in there, ya'll, Springs on it's way!  >-
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    I'm still here, too...reading, just not much to say....I'm 
    still *attempting* to eat *right* and manage to succeed most
    of the time, still losing, steadily, slowly but surely!  At
    least it's not going in the other direction.
    
    Been busy here and out sick some with lower back problems so
    didn't get the exercise that I had wanted to over the past 2 
    or 3 weeks.  And probably ate more than I should have too, being
    bored with staying in bed.........but the scales still show a
    loss of a couple of pounds since my last visit to my weightloss
    Dr. 
    
    	Myra
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ARGUS::CORWIN "I don't care if I AM a lemming"       17 lines  10-MAR-1988 13:53
                         -< still here, just busy... >-
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Well, that makes at least 3 of us at goal who replied to this note, so I
don't think reaching goal stops the responses...

I've been so busy lately I've barely had time to read my batch extracts.
Only reason I'm in here now is the batch job skipped this file and I don't
want to run it again!

But the good part is, being busy keeps me from being bored, and you know what
happens when you're bored...

...I'm almost back down to the lowest I've been, and ready to push downward!!

Darn, I've been so thirsty I just drank my 12 oz glass of water without taking
my allerest!  Maybe all that water will help my dry, unhappy throat, and the
rest of me :-)

stuffy Jill, but not stuffed :-)
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CADSE::WILLIAMS                                       7 lines  10-MAR-1988 14:23
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    I'm still here but have nothing to report...so I just read
    when I can...
    
    keep up the good work, remember it's March now and I see June right
    around the corner....
    
    Loretta
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WORDS::KRISTY "Insanity: the only alternative"         1 line  10-MAR-1988 15:43
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    busybusybusybusy
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BUSY::KLEINBERGER "Vivo, ergo sum"                   17 lines  11-MAR-1988 04:13
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    I have also noticed lately, that when new writers write something
    that the old writers don't like, the old writers jump down their
    (new writers) throat.
    
    I know I have quit writing in here, after one response, because
    I DID NOT appreciate getting told I was ------ (fill in the blank
    here)....
    
    I lost a total of 100 pounds.  I am back to lose another 30, and
    have lost 12 of that....  that means I can diet, I CAN keep it off,
    and I know a little of what EVERYONE is going through.... But I
    write one note in one topic (after not wrting in over a year), and
    I get jumped all over...
    
    No thanks... I'll just read only....

    Gale
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VENOM::MICHAELS                                      12 lines  11-MAR-1988 05:11
                      -< THANKS FOR BREAKING THE SILENCE >-
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    Can anyone tell me where there's an OA meeting in southern New
    Hampshire on either Friday nights or anytime on Sunday? Monday
    through Thursday nights I'm in school, and Saturday nights I'm
    usually working at my second job. The free times I mentioned
    are the only times I have available. I really need to attend
    on a regular basis and get back on the track. I just started
    this job in November and have been getting into the detail of
    it - I really like it a lot. Anyway, my focus is back, so I'll
    write more often, even it's simply giving a status report, if
    you're interested. Let me know, okay? 'Cause I don't want to
    bore you to tears - or worse...silence! Talk to you later!!
    
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NHL::ARNO "Smile for Giggles"                        29 lines  11-MAR-1988 05:31
                      -< Where have all the Noters gone >-
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    I know a few times I have added a note and I hardly get any replies
    back so after a while you lose interest.
    I read it sometimes but I use to do it more.
    
    It may be as someone said the weight is coming offfffffffff sooooooooo
    slowwwwwwwwwwww
    
    It's almost like an endless battle .. and sometimes I get tired
    of hearing the same stuff over and over.. Like Drink your water
    and write down what you eat.. and stop saying I can't and I won't
    to I will...
    
    I think we all are looking forward to spring .. I mean REAL Spring!!
    
    
    It would be nice to get the Note file moving again.. I know it helps
    me .. but when people lose interest.it affects everyone..
    
    It would be nice for those who have reached goal to help those 
    who are working to get there..
    
    
    Just my thoughts
    
    
    Ann
    
    
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STAR::YANKOWSKAS "Who's on 1st, what's on 2nd..."    11 lines  11-MAR-1988 05:53
                                  -< My $.02 >-
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    re .12:
    
    >    It would be nice for those who have reached goal to help those 
    >	 who are working to get there..
                                            
    I feel that this already does take place in this conference, as
    evidenced by the continued participation of people like myself,
    Joe Coyle, and Jill Corwin.     
                                               
    
    Paul
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BUSY::KLEINBERGER "Vivo, ergo sum"                   20 lines  11-MAR-1988 06:29
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.13>    re .12:
    
.13>    >    It would be nice for those who have reached goal to help those 
.13>    >	 who are working to get there..
                                            
.13>    I feel that this already does take place in this conference, as
.13>    evidenced by the continued participation of people like myself,
.13>    Joe Coyle, and Jill Corwin.     
                                               
    
.13>    Paul
    
    
    
    This is what I was talking about just a couple of notes before this
    .13.  When a person writes, to get told off afterwards, is *not* a
    very good thing have continually happening...  Thanks for providing
    an example so quickly Paul....  (notice no smiles here)
    
    Gale
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STAR::YANKOWSKAS "Who's on 1st, what's on 2nd..."    27 lines  11-MAR-1988 07:09
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    re .14:
    
        
    >	This is what I was talking about just a couple of notes before this
    >   .13.  When a person writes, to get told off afterwards, is *not* a
    >	very good thing have continually happening...  Thanks for providing
    >	an example so quickly Paul....  (notice no smiles here)
    
    Gale:
    
    If you are referring to my 231.4, please reread it.  I don't feel
    it's an example of "telling people off"; I feel I was just stating
    an opinion which was not in agreement with an opinion stated in
    a previous reply.
                                            
    That is what NOTES conferences like this are about; the exchange
    of information and opinions.  Those opinions are not always going
    to agree.
    
    I agree with you that "personal attacks" have no place in a NOTES
    conference, but there is also a difference between saying "I disagree
    with what was stated in such and such a note" and "You're out to
    lunch".  While I read a good bit of the former in this conference,
    I seldom if ever recall a case of the latter.
    
    
    Paul
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SALEM::LYLES "I have some powdered water..."          6 lines  11-MAR-1988 07:54
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    re: .11 (Michaels)
    
    There is a Saturday morning OA meeting at Parkland Medical in Derry
    at 10AM.  
    
    Inez
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CSC32::G_MCINTOSH                                    11 lines  11-MAR-1988 08:47
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    I have to admit, that I enjoy lively conversation, even conversation
    that borders on disagreement is ok with me.  But out and out personal
    attacks aren't real good and I don't recall ever seeing that in
    this conference.  To see that, I just open the sports conference
    and get dumped on.  But this is a really GREAT conference, with
    good discussion and personal convictions.  I applaud all of you.
    You already know that I have no trouble saying what's on my mind,
    and frankly, I appreciate the same from all of you.  Keep them cards
    and letters comin' in, folks.
    
    Glenn (in snowy Colorado)
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NHL::ARNO "Smile for Giggles"                        25 lines  11-MAR-1988 09:51
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    Glenn,
    
    Is this the way to start things moving ?  It sounds like everyone
    needs a vacation (-:
    
    I think we all need to make a clean slate and start over before
    people start not reading this Note file.
    
    We have a nice thing going here..
    
    How about In a Peaceful way...
    
    If this world is going to be a better place then why not start
    here ??
    
    
    Need a support friend call me ..  Need to yell call someone 
    else..
    
    
    Ann
    
    
    
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SRFSUP::TERASHITA "California Native"                13 lines  11-MAR-1988 12:03
                           -< I'm Here, Right Here! >-
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    Sorry I haven't been writing much.
    
    A)  I've been really, REALLY busy.
    
    B)  My terminal was down for a day.
    
    But, I have been reading.
    
    Lynn
    
    P.S. - Neal is coming back to work on Monday.  Can't Wait!  I've
           seen him and he looks great...very happy with himself.
    
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VENOM::MICHAELS                                       7 lines  11-MAR-1988 17:21
                       -< I APPRECIATE THIS CONFERENCE >-
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    > .16
    
    Thanks, Inez, for the information on the Saturday 10AM OA meetings
    at Parkland Medical Center in Derry. Tomorrow I'm working, but the
    following Saturday I'll be there.
    
    
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CSC32::G_MCINTOSH                                     6 lines  14-MAR-1988 11:07
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    Ann 
    
    I read note 236.18 and I really don't know what you're talking about.
    Care to explain?
    
    Glenn
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PBA::ARNO "Smile for Giggles"                        18 lines  14-MAR-1988 11:57
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    Glenn,  what I was talking abouton 236.18 it sounded like people
    were getting up tight with on another.. So I just meant you sure
    got the people writing again.. but I didn't think that is what
    you meant to get out of this...
    
    So I was telling to all not you.. How about starting off with
    a clean slate.. As we have a nice Note file here so why not
    give Peace a chance...instead of jumping down each other..
    
    
    Do You understand ?
    
    Ann