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Title: Weight Loss and Maintenance
Notice:**PLEASE** enter notes in mixed case (CAPS ARE SHOUTING)!
Moderator:ASICS::LESLIE
Created:Tue Jul 10 1990
Last Modified:Tue Jun 03 1997
Last Successful Update:Fri Jun 06 1997
Number of topics:933
Total number of notes:9931

898.0. "CAUTION - Ma Huang and Kola Nut products" by TNPUBS::PAINTER (Planet Crayon) Wed Oct 04 1995 00:54

    From: "Reader's Digest", October 1995, p.134

    Beware This Diet Duo - Ma Huang and Kola Nut
    --------------------
	
    The Food and Drug Administration is warning consumers to be
    wary of any product combining the Chinese herb ma huang and
    the Kola nut. Ma huang is a source of ephedrine, an
    amphetamine-like substance, and kola nut is a source of
    caffeine.  Products containing the two are often promoted as
    diet aids or energy boosters. 

    The FDA has received more than 100 reports of adverse effects,
    including irregular heartbeat, heart attack, stroke, seizures,
    hepatitis, and psychosis.  Several deaths have also been
    linked to the products, and the FDA maintains that adverse
    effects can occur even at recommended doses. 

		- University of Texas Lifetime Health Letter

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898.1Herbalife and Chinese Ma HuangTNPUBS::PAINTERPlanet CrayonWed Oct 04 1995 01:0229
                                      
    I recall we were discussing this very combination in another note,
    however I don't remember which one it was in.  If someone does
    remember, please crosspost .0 into that note as well.
    
    Though the Herbalife Green/Beige Thermojetics products used to have
    Chinese Ma Huang in them (but NOT kola nut), this product formula was
    redesigned and rereleased earlier this year to remove the Chinese Ma
    Huang ingredient.  
    
    Along with this new formula, the caution/warning label has also been 
    removed that used to caution against use of this product if you had 
    high blood pressure, cardiovascular disease, or were pregnant/lactating 
    (due to the Chinese Ma Huang).
    
    The new formula is: 
    
    Thermojetics Green:  Balu, Yerba Mate Extract, Bladderwrack,
                         Meadowsweet, Garcinia Cambogia, Valarian Root, 
                         Green Tea Extract, Fumitory Herb and Honeysuckle.
         
    Thermojetics Beige has not changed, and that formula is:
    
    Thermojetics Beige:  Hawthorn Berry, Cascara Sagrada, Uva Ursi,
                         Alfalfa, Cornsilk, Parsley, Marshmallow Root, 
                         Magnolia Bark, Pau D'Arco, Pfaffia Paniculata, 
                         Astragalus (Bai Chi), Fennel Seed, Golden Rod, 
                         and Licorice.
    Cindy
898.2I Like Ma Huang...great stimulant!POWDML::GKELLYWed Mar 20 1996 19:0823
    I personally like  Ma Huang...it gives me LOTS of energy and the
    formula I take it with is an incredible appetite suppressant...
    
    I am an independent distributor for Equinox International.  One of
    their product lines is a Weight Loss System.  I've been using the
    system for approx. 4 weeks now, and have lost about 15 lbs! 
    One of the products in the system is called Fast Start, which includes 
    the Ma Huang, but it doesn't have Kola Nut.  Because of the controversy 
    with Ma Huang, Equinox has decided to make a version of Fast Start 
    without the Ma Huang, but will also continue to carry the one with the Ma
    Huang...which I am certainly glad about!  Hey, I've FINALLY found
    something that is working for me...I AM NOT GOING TO CHANGE IT AT ALL!!  
    I'm just going to continue to lose weight and have lots of energy!
    
    The way I look at it, if someone is going to take 10 aspirin, they'll
    probably have an adverse effect.  People need to take the recommended
    dosages.  Yes, there will always be some people who just can't take
    certain things.  So they shouldn't take them.  
    
    Whatever...I think I need to take some Fast Start...need some energy!
    
    :) 
    
898.3TNPUBS::PAINTERPlanet CrayonMon Mar 25 1996 22:5220
    
    Herbalife has done the same - they had changed the formula for the
    Thermojetics Green tablet to not include the Chinese Ma Huang, but the 
    the demand was so great for the prior one that they reintroduced the 
    product.  Now it is possible to choose which version to use.  With 
    regard to the note in .0, that product does not, and never had, the 
    Kola Nut ingredient in it.
    
    I personally prefer the new Thermojetics Green tablet because of the
    formulation, and also because there's no more caution label needed for
    people with cardiovascular disease, high blood pressure, or
    pregnancy/lactating.
    
    Herbalife products works differently in comparison to appetite
    suppressant and stimulant products.  It is nutrition-based and 
    contains ingredients that both cleanse, detoxify, and heal the body, 
    so it gets to the weight problem at the source.  I've lost 20 pounds 
    now. 
    
    Cindy
898.4possible Chinese Ma Huang legislation?TNPUBS::PAINTERPlanet CrayonWed Oct 02 1996 00:2015
898.5Death HOTLNE::YOUNGThu May 01 1997 23:472
    They say that a few people have died from taking this.*esp. those w/
    asthma!