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Title: Weight Loss and Maintenance
Notice:**PLEASE** enter notes in mixed case (CAPS ARE SHOUTING)!
Moderator:ASICS::LESLIE
Created:Tue Jul 10 1990
Last Modified:Tue Jun 03 1997
Last Successful Update:Fri Jun 06 1997
Number of topics:933
Total number of notes:9931

741.0. "Medical Studies & Diets" by USCTR1::RTRUEBLOOD (Rollyn Trueblood DTN 297-6553) Wed May 06 1992 23:52

  Today on the way in to work, I heard a sound byte saying a 
  recent study in the New England Journal of Medicine found
  women lose bone mass from dieting no matter what food or 
  vitamin supplements are taken. 

  I think loss of bone mass means more than just calcium 
  deficiencies found in osterporosis (most likely mis-
  spelled.) Perhaps someone else heard the same article;
  can amplify on it, prove it was a prank initiated by
  the pastry-chef lobby, etc.

  Perhaps we should content ourselves to being ourselves.

  Best wishes,

  Rollyn

  
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741.1no revelations in .0MILKWY::ZARLENGAand here's another profound noteThu May 07 1992 04:0512
    re:.0
    
    If you're only dieting, yes, you will lose some bone mass.
    
    You will also lose muscle and fat, too.
    
    If you then add in exercise, you will gain muscle mass.
    
    And if your exercise is a load bearing exercise you will gain bone
    mass.
    
    For very heavy people, just walking is a load bearing exercise.
741.2Increasing Bone MassESCROW::ROBERTSThu May 07 1992 18:0516
    Yes, I second the info in .1 about bone mass.  I used to raise horses,
    and there were many studies over the years done on horses that showed
    the correlation between weight-bearing exercise and increase in bone
    mass.
    
    As for the article about dieting and loss of bone mass, I'm not
    surprised to hear that dieting is bad in yet another way.  Exercise is 
    really the best way to keep the weight off.  As an aside, there is 
    also evidence that shows that non-strenuous exercise is better for 
    weight loss than strenuous exercise.  Strenuous exercise burns sugar; 
    easier exercise burns fat.
    
    
    
    
    
741.3walking enough?PCOJCT::LOCOVAREThu May 07 1992 19:047
    
    I'm not terribly heavy, just trying to get rid of last of
    pregnancy weight (14 1bs). Is walking weight bearing enough?
    Its all I really have time for now since I'm back at work
    and it is something we can all do together.
    
    
741.4MILKWY::ZARLENGAand here's another profound noteFri May 08 1992 05:0510
    If you're 14lbs overweight, walking is not a weight bearing exercise.
    
    You'd have to make the transition to either walking with weights
    (could dangerous for your knees or ankles), or working out with
    resistance or weights, or moderate-impact aerobics classes.
    
    In the meantime, osteoporosis is much more than just losing bone
    mass, so don't start worrying yet.  You can lose bone mass and still
    have very solid bones.  Osteoporosis means the bones have become
    _porous_.  That's when you lose bone mass from deep within the bone.
741.5RANGER::PESENTIOnly messages can be draggedFri May 08 1992 17:424
If you are 14 lbs overweight, or 114 lbs overweight, walking is still exercise.
And exercise still burns calories.  And if you increase the calories burned, and
DON'T increase the calories consumed, you will (with rare exceptions) lose some
weight.
741.6Exercise to increase bone massESCROW::ROBERTSMon May 11 1992 17:4611
    re .5
    
    Yes, walking is certainly exercise, even if you are not overweight. 
    But the topic under discussion here is exercise that is weight-bearing
    enough to lead to incresed bone mass, not simply exercise that will
    lead to weight loss or fitness.
                                                          
    In the study results that I've read, it appears that running will
    increase the effective weight because of its concussive nature.  So if
    you are not enough overweight to make walking a bone thickening
    exercise, then maybe you should start running instead.
741.7RANGER::PESENTIOnly messages can be draggedWed May 20 1992 17:397
re .6 

Sorry.  In .5 I was responding to .3 where the question was "is walking weight 
bearing enough to lose 14 lbs.?"  What I was trying to say was that one can lose
14 lbs by walking.  I guess I did not understand how her question even related 
to the issue of weight bearing exercise and bone mass, other than the fact that
it contained the words "weight bearing" in it.