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Title: Weight Loss and Maintenance
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Created:Tue Jul 10 1990
Last Modified:Tue Jun 03 1997
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449.0. "Support desperately needed..." by CURIE::ASBURY () Thu May 11 1989 12:36

    Help. I am in a terrible fix. I know that some of you have had some
    experience with emotional eating and stress eating and every other
    kind of eating except plain old eating to survive. I am caught on
    a roller coaster and I don't know how to get off. I need to hear
    about ways that you have managed to end a cycle of terrible bingeing
    and overeating and get on track. 
    
    I have taken one step. I have been in touch with a counselor and
    made an appointment to start seeing her on a regular basis. But,
    due to her schedule and mine, we can't begin meeting until next
    week. I don't want to continue to abuse myself the way I have been
    until then, but I can't seem to stop. 
    
    Please, share your experiences, both with ways of dealing with this
    mess I am in and with using counseling as a way of getting in touch
    with the feelings that you were eating to cover up. Feel free to
    send me mail if you'd rather respond there.
    
    Thanks,
    
     -Amy.
    

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449.1Keep reaching out.SUPER::HENDRICKSThe only way out is throughThu May 11 1989 13:5068
    Hi Amy, I've been there.  I needed to do years of therapy before
    I was ready to stop eating compulsively.  You may be different,
    but I think it's important to honor our process, whatever it is.
    
    You may be able to use therapy to stop compulsive overeating.  You
    may need to use therapy for a while to learn to nurture yourself
    in other ways before being able to give up compulsive overeating.
    
    Books may be helpful right now -- some that come to mind are Fat
    is a Family Affair by Judi Hollis, and Fat is a Feminist Issue by Susie
    Orbach.  Also The Obsession by Kim Chernin gave me some support
    and some things to think about.                              
    
    I think you're right on track when you are asking for feedback from
    people who are not using food as a drug to stuff their feelings.
    
    There are lots of people at OA with stories like yours -- I don't
    know if you've ever checked it out, but what we do there is share
    our experience, strength and hope about living one day at a time
    without eating compulsively.   If you're interested, you might want
    to check out a speaker meeting of OA -- people tell how they recovered
    from compulsive overeating.  It helps me because I need role
    models who not only lost their weight, but are living every day
    without compulsive eating.     
                                                                    
    Through OA, I've gone 60 days without eating sugar or flour or other
    refined carbohydrates.  I've lost about 35 pounds in that time. But
    more important than that, I have been building a network of people who
    care about me who understand compulsive overeating and who are choosing
    not to do it.  OA is not a food plan -- it's a way of life where you
    discipline yourself not to isolate.  (And there are nurturing groups,
    and other groups that I wouldn't choose to go to because they feel
    pretty rigid to me. )
    
    I am learning how to change my life so that it doesn't revolve around
    food.  Lots of old feelings are coming up, along with some grief
    about the loss of certain foods.   I never had a problem expressing
    anger, love, or joy since my initial work in therapy, but sadness
    has always been inaccessible.  Lately sadness just seems to come
    up because I'm not pouring tons of food down over it.  It comes
    up at work, in the car, with friends, and it's not apparently 'about'
    anything.  It's just raw sadness. 
    
    Last night I was with a trusted friend who has worked through her own
    addiction to alcohol and drugs and who understands these things well.
    She pushed me a little on the sadness that was hovering over me,
    and a lot of old pain came up.  She encouraged me to let it up,
    to cry, and to let her hold me, which I did.  
    
    I realized that I was back in a place where I was feeling very small
    and vulnerable. Watching my body get smaller is scary sometimes -- it
    takes me back to a time in my life where I was powerless to stop some
    things like sexual abuse and physical abuse.  She was fully there for
    me -- she made it clear that the feelings are ok, they are part of
    recovery, and the only way to move forward is to not use food as a drug
    to stuff the feelings that terrify us.  I know she is right.  The
    affection and support touched me in a much deeper place than the food
    ever could.  Lack of nurturance is probably what the initial sadness
    was about. 
    
    I'm glad I use "the only way out is through" as a personal name.
    I need to keep reminding myself that it's true!
    
    Take care.  We care about you.
    
    Holly
                        

449.2Take it one day at a timeEMASS::SICALong and winding road...BUT..!Thu May 11 1989 20:2635
  	Keep in mind that each of us is different, but many of us have
    the same addiction.  Things that I have found to help are :
 
    	1.  Don't buy sweets, crackers, etc.  Do buy popcorn and an
    air popper.  
    	2.  Don't watch TV.  I have found that the commercials are a
    trigger.  (Eat this, or everyone loves, or.....BULL.  But the messages
    can hit the subconscious (SP) like a brick.  Read a good book instead)
    	3.  Talk.
    	4.  Always remember to take life one day at a time.  Ok so I
    ate everything in the house, that doesn't justify my continueing
    to do so tomarrow.  
    	5.  Learn to believe in your SELF!  Do I want to look like this
    the rest of my life?  Feel like this?  I have to loose weight for no 
    other reason than I am doing this for ME!
   	6.  Learn to like your SELF!  If you don't like who you are,
    then you can never succeed.
    
    
   	I have had to modify my eating pattern, which is by no means
    easy.  I am overweight.  I cannot eat as others can.  I accept that.
    It does not make me any less of a person, but rather in many ways
    it has made me a stronger person.
    
    	I still have a long ways to go but I know that I can do it.
    
    
    	Believe in your self, and rember to take it one day at a time....
    
    
    						Paul S.
    
    	
    Eat to live, don't live to eat.

449.3HAMSTR::JAFFEThe Big Blue Buster from CMGMon May 22 1989 18:175
    Holly re: .1
    That was beautiful, touching and meaningful ...
    
    Thanks for the sharing.      Joel

449.4SUPER::HENDRICKSThe only way out is throughTue May 23 1989 02:509
    You're welcome, Joel.
    
    After writing about software all day, it's very satisfying to write
    about something very close to my heart.
    
    Amy...how are you doing?
    
    Holly

449.5Warm FeelingsWR2FOR::KRANICH_KAFri May 26 1989 18:248
    Re: .1 (Holly)
    
    I just want to say that I was also very touched by what you wrote.
    It makes me feel good to know that there are others that truely
    care!  Thanks for sharing!!
    
    Kathy

449.6UpdateCURIE::ASBURYWed Jun 21 1989 14:0426
    Hello, all,
    
    Thanks for the support you have offerred here and through mail. Work
    has been so crazy that I have not been able to reply to those who sent
    mail, but I do want you to know that I appreciate it.
    
    I am doing a little better. I gained back a good deal of the weight
    that I had lost. I have also figured out some of what made me start
    that horrible cycle of grossly overeating. I had gotten myself into a
    very unsuitable relationship and there was a part of me that was very
    much afraid of what was going on. I think the subconscious message was
    - if I gain a lot of weight and get really unattractive, this person
    will go away and I won't have to deal with all of this anymore. Well,
    it didn't work. And I did finally figure out why I was so uncomfortable
    and I (and this other person) have worked it out. I have stopped
    bingeing in the evenings but have not yet been able to start losing
    again. There should be a new session of WW@W starting here in the next
    couple of weeks. I plan to be there.
    
    Again, thanks for the support. And congrats to those of you who have
    been through this and come out on the other side. You are an
    inspiration to me.
    
    	-Amy.