Conference rocks::weight_control

    re .0:
    
    >    Does anyone have any ideas for the Irish Meal or
    >	 if you have people over what will you serve?
                         
    The standard Irish seven-course dinner -- a six-pack and a boiled
    potato... :-) :-) :-)
                                                  
    
    Seriously, count your corned beef under protein, the potato as bread,
    the cabbage as vegetable, and anything you care to drink as optional
    calories.  No big deal.
               
    
    Paul_who's_Irish_by_marriage :-)

 
   NOT to put a damper on anyone's party or celebrating, HOWEVER....
	   (hint: don't hit return if you don't want a damper)
    
    1 ounce of corn beef is 110 calories folks.
    
    12 ounces of regular beer is 151 calories...
    
    1 cup of common or Chinese cabbage, shredded, cooked and drained 
      is 29 calories..

    1 cup of onions, mature, cooked, whole or sliced is 61 calories...
    
    1 cup of potatoes, fresh, boiled, diced or sliced is 101 calories...
    
    After reading the above, I think I'm going to skip the beef and
    beer, and ask for the cabbage only...
    
    Think about it, is it worth it????.... One minute on the lips can
    equal forever on the hips...

    This month's (March, 1988) WW magazine has recipies for "Saint Paddy's
    Boiled Beef and Cabbage" and "Irish Whiskey Custard", complete with
    exchanges per serving.
    
    Sounds good to me!
    
    Lynn

    re .3:
    
    You beat me to it Lynn.  If there's one thing I've learned since
    starting Weight Watchers 8-1/2 months ago, it's that the peopl who find
    ways to include their favorite foods in their weightloss program (in
    reasonable quantities of course) stand the best chance of losing their
    weight and keeping it off.  The "Dieting must equal depriving yourself"
    frame of mind stated in .2 doesn't work for me.  It too often results
    in either not being able to stick to a program, or regaining lost
    weight back once one is through depriving oneself because of the
    subsequent urge to "make up for lost time".
    
    Paul 

> ...the people who find ways to include their favorite foods in their 
>    weightloss program (in reasonable quantities of course) stand the
>    best chance of losing their weight and keeping it off.  

    Amen!  I think this is one of the biggest reasons that WW is working
    *consistently* for me.  If I decide I just have to have some of
    whatever is calling me, I do so; I make sure I'm aware of how much I
    have, and count it against my optionals, but instead of feeling guilty,
    I feel virtuous!  There have been occasions when I went over my
    optional allowance for the week, but not by a lot; it might slow down
    my weight loss, but I'm still eating much more healthily than before.

    So have a few ounces of Corned Beef (trim the fat), and a serving
    of potatoes, and a beer!  A protein exchange is supposed to be 70
    calories, so you'll probably want to check off some optionals, unless
    it's unusually lean.

    Beverly

    (ps: corning is a process.  It involves pepper corns, not "maize!")

    re .5 ps
    
    "Corned" beef refers to beef that has been soaked in brine.  In
    England, where this process originated, the salt that was used to
    make the brine was coarsely ground, so that the granules were the
    size of kernels of wheat.  And, as our British friends will tell
    us, wheat in England is called "corn".
    
    Lynn

    
    Okay, okay!  My primary point, that corning is a process, so it's
    "corned beef," not "corn beef" is still valid!
    
    Bev  :-)
    

Well, Glenn wanted some controversy (see Awful Quiet note :-)), so I'll
better late than never reply here and stick myself between some of my favorite
contributors (yeah, you all are my favorite contributors, but :-))

I agree with Gale that we should remember the "damage" we would be "causing"
by eating everything on her list, and balance it against the pleasure we'd
get out of it, and decide what is it worth to us to indulge in those things,
or which of them would be most pleasurable to indulge in.  Then, I agree
with Paul and say you shouldn't deprive yourself of what you REALLY want, or
you're heading in the wrong direction.  Life is full of choices, decide
what's important to you.

Personally, I don't particularly care for anything on the menu, except
maybe the cabbage, and that would have a horrible effect on me, judging from
what 2 cabbage leaves in my WW dinner last night did :-)  However, in school
I was always partial to green pizza (or any other kind, which is why I had
this weight problem :-)).

Jill, who's almost as far from Irish as you can get but still likes pizza :-)