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Title: Weight Loss and Maintenance
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Moderator:ASICS::LESLIE
Created:Tue Jul 10 1990
Last Modified:Tue Jun 03 1997
Last Successful Update:Fri Jun 06 1997
Number of topics:933
Total number of notes:9931

97.0. "Stick to Program?" by NHL::ARNO () Thu Aug 13 1987 10:04

    
    I was wondering if anyone ever gets bored with their program
    or diet?  Are there times when you don't follow your program
    and don't even feel like it? Sometimes I follow it and other
    times I don't . I was wondering if anyone else has this 
    problem?  I know I need to stick to it but I get away from
    it and it takes for ever to get to want to stick to it again.
    I know there are alot of recipes to try and all but sometimes
    I don't even feel like trying them..
    
    I like my program and need to lose weight but maybe in away
    I could be afraid of changing..  
    
    What do you say on this does anyone else have a hard time sticking
    to it for long?   
    
    
    I must change 
    
    
    Ann
    
    
    
    

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97.1AIMHI::KRISTYThis brain intentionally left blank.Thu Aug 13 1987 13:4710
    Ann,
    
    Take a good hard look at yourself.  Do you really *WANT* to lose
    weight or are you halfheartedly trying?  It's one thing to KNOW
    you want/have to lose weight, but completely another to really WANT
    to lose weight.  It took me 18 years to REALLY want to lose weight.
    
    
    						*** Kristy ***

97.2ONE MORE TIMEZENSNI::LAPIERREThu Aug 13 1987 15:4615
    
    I know how .0 feels.  It is so hard to get motivated and stay
    motivated.
    
    I try to say what .1 says and after a while it gets old and is no
    longer motivating.  The hardest part is the denial.  Telling myself
    I can no longer eat the way I want.
    
    I live in Colorado and my family lives in Mass.  They visit me so
    often and who can diet when you're on vacation?  They leave and
    here I am here with 3 more pounds to fight with.    
    
    One more try....
                    

97.3Motivation and boredomSTAR::YANKOWSKASGreetings from scenic ZKO1-1/F22Thu Aug 13 1987 16:3842
    re the last few:
    
    You all raise a good point.  If the motivation isn't there, your
    program/diet isn't going to succeed.
    
    I made several halfhearted and unsuccessful attempts at losing weight
    before my recent enrollment at Weight Watchers. The question that
    Kristy raises in .1 is a tough one, but one that anyone who repeatedly
    stumbles or makes no progress really needs to ask themselves and answer
    honestly.  It was only when I was able to tell myself "quit fooling
    around and get down to business" that I was able to succeed at losing
    weight (although I must admit that an above normal b.p. reading at my
    pre-employment physical was all the motivation I needed!).   
    
    (BTW Kristy, love your new personal name!)
    
    Back to the point Ann rasied about "getting bored" with a plan.
    This topic came up at the WW meeting I attended last week, so I'll
    pass three of the better points that came up:
    
    	Reexamine the literature on your plan (in the case of Weight
    	Watchers, the week 4 book, the Personal Choice booklets, etc.).
    	Look at it not from the point of view of what you can't have,
    	but from the point of view of what you *can* have.   You may
    	be pleasantly surprised.
    
    	Don't let yourself get in a rut.  Plan meals at least a few
    	days in advance with the idea of varying the menu as much as
    	possible.  I let myself get into a "cereal and oj for breakfast,
    	salad with 2 oz. of tuna for lunch" rut the first week of WW 
    	and was going bonkers until my wife (who has been through the 
    	plan) pointed out some good alternatives.  Just giving myself
    	some more variety improved my attitude towards the plan.
    
    	Make a resolution to try at least one new food item or to try
    	a new recipe every week.  You may discover a new favorite that
    	could be a lifesaver in future weeks.
    
    Hope I haven't sounded too preachy, and also hope this helps someone
    out there.
    

97.4keep on keeping on!MASTER::EPETERSONThu Aug 13 1987 16:5713
    I have been going thru a similar thing this week.  I have had a
    motivation problem.  What I did is do a directory of all the notes
    and replys I have entered to date here on "WEIGHTLOSS".  I was really
    motivated when I wrote some of them.  Then there are some that I
    wrote when I was very frustrated.  After re-reading them I had a
    much better perspective on the fact that I have been discouraged
    before, but I have pulled out of it only a few short days later.
    I now know that all I have to do is hang in there and I won't be
    sorry.  Hope this helps you as much as it has helped me.
    
    Marion
    

97.5preparation of your foodFDCV09::USDISASThu Aug 13 1987 17:3913
    motivation!
    
    What motivates YOU?  I found that by preparing my food so it looked
    good and tasted great was a challenge in itself.  When I make my
    salads for lunch i bring all the ingredients and put the salad
    together here.  This takes some extra time and when I'm done, i
    feel like i've made myself a feast.  Also take some of your
    favorite meals and figure out how to make them LOWER in calories.
    Hope this was a litte helpful.
    
    vickey
    

97.6Variety is definitely the spice of my lifeNATASH::BUTCHARTMon Aug 17 1987 10:0934
    I will echo the advice of some of the last few replies to focus
    as much as possible on the variety provided in any food plan.  I
    think that's why WW is so successful--it provides great variety
    for the weight-conscious eater.
    
    I find I have to do the same with exercise.  I have about 5 (yes!)
    different regimes that I work with.  My body gets terribly bored
    with only one form of workout.  So I have aerobic walking, or
    trampolining, or rowing, or dancing or stair climing.  I also work
    at Callanetics, weight training, floor exercises of various kinds
    (I devised the routine myself, but it's based on Jane Fonda), Nickolaus
    technique and Yoga.  I combine one aerobic routine with a shaping
    routine for a workout and do the stretching routines (Yoga or Nickolaus
    technique) on "off" days.
    
    I also find it very difficult to follow a food "plan", which is
    why my scheme for weight-conscious eating is just based on a few
    principles that have more to do with behavior mod than food selection.
    These are:
    
      o low-fat cooking, as much as possible
    
      o eating only when physically hungry, eating slowly and only 
    	until physically full (boy are these tough to master, but they
    	form the keystone of my personal plan)
    
      o drinking mucho water
    
      o eating early in the day, little at night
    
    Take care,
    
    Marcia

97.7Good point in .6!STAR::YANKOWSKASGreetings from scenic ZKO1-1/F22Mon Aug 17 1987 11:0112
    re .6:
    
    Excellent point about adding variety to one's exercise program.
    Besides reducing boredom, two other advantages of a varied exercise
    program:
    
    1.	More areas of the body receive the benefits of exercise.
    
    2.	No one area of the body gets too much stress put on it (for
    example, more jogging/running than one is capable of puts stress
    on joints/ankles).                                          

97.8RewardsWCSM::HOTTSun Sep 13 1987 16:0018
    For me, rewards worked best.  I would plan a reward for each 5 pounds
    I lost.  It doesn't have to be that extravagant; just something
    that says "congratulations you've succeeded in reaching another
    goal."
    
    When the weight loss was slow, I would get frustrated and discouraged.
    Then I would remind myself, "only a couple more pounds and I get
    my reward."
    
    A side benefit on this plan was that I learned to reward myself
    with something OTHER THAN FOOD.
    
    Don't know if this would work for others but it works for me.  But
    then, I've always been susceptible to bribery.  :-)
    
    						Donna
                                                     

97.9"Serious chowing down"STAR::YANKOWSKASWho threw those pies?Wed Oct 07 1987 13:3516
    Stick to program???   Naaaahh...the celery and carrot sticks can
    go on the back burner today...this is a day for some serious chowing
    down...I started the day with juice, half a cinnamon-raisin bagel,
    and a helping of chocolate mousse...lets see, lunch at Wendy's sounds
    good...Supper?  Hmm, I think my wife and I will hit the Highland
    Cafe in Malden after our WW meeting for some mushroom pizza and
    antipasto.  And finally, when I get home and I'm watching the ballgame,
    a double fudge pop sounds like it would hit the spot!  
    
    Anyone tries to stop me...I pity the fool!
    
    (to be continued...)
    
    
    Paul

97.10"Boring" is in the eye of the beholder...STAR::YANKOWSKASWho threw those pies?Thu Oct 08 1987 08:1512
    Follow up to .9:
    
    What was the point of my previous reply?  The food mentioned in
    that note could all be accounted for as part of the daily allotment
    of exchanges on the Weight Watchers plan.  Yes, I did have everything
    listed there yesterday (had the salad bar on my trip to Wendy's:
    one helping of salad, and one helping of fruit with about 2/3 cup
    cottage cheese).
    
    So, a program with the flexibility of the Weight Watchers plan can
    be as interesting or as boring as *you* make it...

97.11I knew it, I knew it! :-)ARGUS::CORWINI don't care if I AM a lemmingThu Oct 08 1987 13:4511
re .9, .10

Gee, Paul, I knew what was coming.  Too bad you beat me to a reply.  I was
going to say "nothing wrong with your plans, as far as I could see..."

Those double fudge pops and chocolate mousse are great!!  And, I was going to
have the WW chocolate cake last night for my birthday, but I wasn't even
hungry by the time I got home from dinner!

Jill

97.12This is a test...STAR::YANKOWSKASBeware of Greeks bearing giftsTue Feb 16 1988 09:0951
    A fifteen question test devised by Dr. Fredrick Stare, professor
    of nutrition at Harvard, to determine if one is psychologically ready
    to embark on a weightloss program.  
    
    Answer the following items "true" or "false".  I'll provide the
    scoring and analysis in a follow-up reply later. 
                                                
    
    Paul
    
    *******************************************************************
    
    
    1. I want to lose weight fast -- at least five pounds a week until
    I reach my goal weight.
    
    2. This time I'm determined to lose weight no matter how bad it
    makes me feel.
    
    3. Taking off weight will change my whole life.
    
    4. I want to lose weight so my spouse will stop nagging me about
    it.
    
    5. Taking diet pills are really a good way to boost willpower and
    help me stick to my diet.
    
    6. I know I'm ready to lose weight because I'm ready to give up
    my favorite foods forever.
    
    7. The best diet is one that forbids carbohydrates.
    
    8. I want to lose weight because thin people are happier.
    
    9. I want to lose weight because all my friends are thin or on diets
    and I don't want to feel left out.
    
    10. I want to lose weight so I'll have a perfect body.
    
    11. I know I'm ready to lose weight becuase I'm ready to give up
    all sweets.
    
    12. I want to lose weight to make my friends jealous.
    
    13. I want to lose weight so my family will be proud of me.
    
    14. I'll never be thin becuase I enjoy eating good food.
    
    15. The best way to lose weight is to go on a diet that tells you
    exactly what food to eat and how much of it.

97.13Scoring/analysis for 97.12STAR::YANKOWSKASBeware of Greeks bearing giftsTue Feb 16 1988 13:2061
    The following note contains a scoring/analysis of the quiz listed
    in .12 (press RETURN)....
    
    
    
    
    
    
    
    
    
    
    
    
    
    
    
    
    SCORING:
    
    Give yourself one point for every question you answered "False".
    
    Add up your total.
    
    ANALYSIS:
    
    11-15 points: Go for it!  Your attitude is such that you are indeed
    ready to lose weight and have a good chance of keeping it off.
    
    6-10 points: You're probably ready, but need to examine your motives
    before you begin.  You may have some preconceptions about dieting
    that could sabatage you (see below).
    
    0-5 points: You're not psychologically ready, and could be disappointed
    if you attempt a weightloss program now.  You need to really look
    closely at your motives for dieting (see below).
                                            
    
    A few statements from Dr. Stare that may help to give you a more
    realistic look at dieting and better set of motives:
    
    Successful weightloss is something that you do for yourself, not
    others (Questions 4, 9, 12, 13).
    
    The good weightloss programs allow small amounts of "goodies" --
    it's unrealistic to think you can swear off your favorite foods
    forever (questions 2, 6, 7, 11, 14, 15)
    
    While dieting will probably make you feel better about yourself,
    if you think it will turn your life completely around, you'll be
    disappointed -- and may gain the weight right back (Questions 3,
    8, 10)
    
    
    Comments?
    
    
    Paul
                       
    

97.14good testCADSE::WILLIAMSTue Feb 16 1988 17:109
    When I got to the question about favorite foods all I could see
    was that ice cream cone from Haagen Daaz...
    
    Of course I am not ever going to give up eating ice cream...
    
    I just won't buy it as often as I did...
    
    Good test...Loretta

97.15-sunny- answers false to all of them, ah well..tis how I feelACOMA::JBADERO tempera! O mores!Wed Feb 17 1988 17:5789
    
    
    1. I want to lose weight fast -- at least five pounds a week until
    I reach my goal weight.
 
                              Although that would be lovely, I have to answer 
                              FALSE. I just want to lose the extra weight
                              forever.
    
    2. This time I'm determined to lose weight no matter how bad it
    makes me feel.
                               Again FALSE. I just don't want to feel
                               bad...I want to feel GREAT!
    
    3. Taking off weight will change my whole life.
                          
                               FALSE again...there may be some changes
                               in my life, but it certainly won't change
                               my *whole* life.
    
    4. I want to lose weight so my spouse will stop nagging me about
    it.
                               FALSE...he has never said a word that
                               wasn't positive nor supportive.
    
    5. Taking diet pills are really a good way to boost willpower and
    help me stick to my diet.

                               FALSE...they don't boost willpower, they
                               mask hunger.
    
    6. I know I'm ready to lose weight because I'm ready to give up
    my favorite foods forever.

                               FALSE...and not on your life! I will
                               continue to enjoy my favorite foods
                               but in a different manner. i.e. a
                               serving of lasagna instead of a pan. ;-)
    
    7. The best diet is one that forbids carbohydrates.

                                FALSE...you need carbs..especially the
                                complex carbs.
    
    8. I want to lose weight because thin people are happier.

                                FALSE...I've seen some very unhappy thin 
                                people. I would not trade my fat for their
                                sorrow.
    
    9. I want to lose weight because all my friends are thin or on diets
    and I don't want to feel left out.

                                FALSE..I want to lose weight for me.
    
    10. I want to lose weight so I'll have a perfect body.

                                FALSE..my body will never be perfect, what's
                                perfect anyway?
    
    11. I know I'm ready to lose weight becuase I'm ready to give up
    all sweets.

                                 FALSE...I'll not give up all sweets, but for
                                 the time being I'll use natural sweets, like
                                 apples, oranges, etc.
    
    12. I want to lose weight to make my friends jealous.

                                  FALSE...why would I want to make my 
                                  *friends* jealous? In fact, they are
                                  very supportive too!
    
    13. I want to lose weight so my family will be proud of me.

                                  FALSE...my family is already proud of me.
                                  <and with good reason> ;-)
    
    14. I'll never be thin becuase I enjoy eating good food.

                                   FALSE..good food is good for me!! ;-)
    
    15. The best way to lose weight is to go on a diet that tells you
    exactly what food to eat and how much of it.

                                   FALSE..it does help me to have a regimine
                                   to follow that guides me in selecting
                                   foods that are healthy.

97.16I agree mostly, but . . .RSTS32::KASPERc = (pascal - training_wheels)Thu Feb 18 1988 12:5629
    I answer False to most of them, too, but there are a couple . . .

>    4. I want to lose weight so my spouse will stop nagging me about it.

    Well, yes, my life is much pleasanter when he's telling me in a happy
    voice how much better I'm looking these days!  He loves me anyway, but
    I don't want him to pretend he likes my being fat.

>    13. I want to lose weight so my family will be proud of me.

    In a way this is the same as (4).  I'm not telling my mother that I'm
    on WW; when she asks about my weight, I mumble something about not
    gaining, don't ask.  When I go to Florida to visit my parents next
    month, I know she'll be thrilled - getting my weight under control is
    one of the best gifts I could give her.

    I don't see anything wrong with this.  I'm losing weight for myself,
    but part of that is the pleasure it gives me to see how happy it makes
    others!  Thinking about their pleasure is sometimes the extra kick I
    need to stay on program.

    I agree that others' expectations shouldn't be the only reason you
    diet, but knowing that people you care about want you to take care of
    yourself can be a very positive thing.

    Beverly


97.17Veryyyyy interestingNHL::ARNOSmile for GigglesFri Feb 19 1988 12:5513
    
    I took the Quiz and scored 10 False so I have some areas I need
    to work on.  
    This was an interesting quiz and it got you thinking.
    
    Thanks Paul you always come up with some interesting topics.
    
    Keep smiling 
    
    Ann