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Title:Working for Digital in the UK
Notice:DIGITAL Stock quote: $35 1/8 on 10/01 at 18:04 eastern.
Moderator:WOTVAX::HILTONo.dec.com::hiltong
Created:Fri Sep 11 1992
Last Modified:Fri Jun 06 1997
Last Successful Update:Fri Jun 06 1997
Number of topics:1443
Total number of notes:35591

1413.0. "How do we order Microsoft Products Internally plse?" by SEDSWS::HANCOCK (Use what you (used to) sell) Tue Mar 25 1997 14:26

    
    
    Hi,
    	can anyone explain the procedure to order Microsoft products
    	internally (Windows 95,Windows NTAS,SMS etc)
    
    	I work for MCS 
    				Cheers Mick Hancock 0370 982026
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1413.1a Process!!ROCKS::KEANETue Mar 25 1997 17:11152
    
    Hi Mick,
    
    There is a process! (what else), attached are the latest mails I have
    on it. They are extracted from Exchange, and published without
    permission, but since they were to a wide distribution, I see no probs.
    
    (OLS is a web site)
    
    1. Cover letter
    
    Hello All
      
    OLS is now open to all authorised Employees (OLS Agents) for the 
    purchase of Microsoft products for Internal use.
    To find out who is the Authorised person (Agent) in your country, 
    Contact your Country CCS managers office. All Employees who have
    allready  being registered for OLS have now being de-registered.
      
    Process to order software
      
    1) Find out who is the person nominated by your Country CCS Manager 
    in your country, to place your order on OLS (this person is known as
    your Registered OLS Agent). 
      
    2) Contact this agent with your information
      		Your Details			
      		Product your require
      		your Cost center number
      		your Cost center's Managers details
      
    3) Your agent will place your order (via OLS ) on to ESC, Galway
      			
      			
    Please find atached Mario Van De Bilt's mail regarding software for 
    Internal Use
      
      
    Regards
    Bernie
      	
    
    
    2) enclossure (1)
    
    
        *** THIS IS A MESSAGE FROM MARIO VAN DE BILT AND PHIL LADDS ***
        
        To: Wolfgang Kerausch
        	Geoff Lomas
        	Bernie Ryan
        	Country Acquisition Managers
        CC	Phil Ladds
        	Country Finance Managers
        	EMT
        	Mike Kelly @ILO
        	John Howard
        
        Subj.: Approval/Ordering of Microsoft Software for Internal use.
        
        
        As per attached mail, Microsoft software packages "for Internal
    Use" e.g. Microsoft Office, Exchange, etc., can be ordered from Galway. 
        
       In order to comply with the "Spend restrictions" guidelines, Galway
    has blocked access to the OLS system and has implemented a manual process 
    requiring all approvals. 						   
        
    It was brought to our attention that the approval process and this 
    ordering process is cumbersome and not totally clear. As a result 
    employees have approached and requested Acquisition to purchase 
    Microsoft software externally. It needs to be understood that we
    pay at least twice the internal cost when we do so.  
        
    Software for Internal Use - Ordering Process
        
    In order to ensure compliance to Phil's attached message and to 
    simplify and standardize the ordering process the following is 
    applicable as of today: 
        
    1)	ALL external ordering for Microsoft Software packages for
    "Internal Use" through Acquisition or via the LVO process is prohibited
    and will be stopped immediately.
    
    Action: All Country Acquisition Managers will cancel all
    external orders immediately and will no longer accept and process orders
    for this purpose.
        	
    2)	Within the boundary of Phil's mail and the Corporate
    Approvals policy, Microsoft software for Internal Use can be ordered
    directly onto Galway by the Country CCS Managers or their nominees
    directly using the Galway OLS system. End users need to have approval
    per policy - CCS will manage the order execution. 
        	
        	Action: 
        
        	a) Not later than February 15 Country CCS managers will
    nominate one CCS employee in their country who will be allowed access
    to the Galway OLS system and who can order Software for
    Internal use for the subsidiary. The name of this employee needs to
    be communicated to Bernie Ryan in Galway (@ILO). Wolfgang
    Kerausch and Geoff Lomas to communicate this to all country CCS
    Managers.
        
        	b) For these employees, Bernie Ryan will:
        	   - ensure full access to the OLS system 
        	   - ensure that all OLS orders will be immediately
    processed.
        
        Regards,
        Mario & Phil
    
    
    #) Enclosure 2
    
    
        As you are aware, we have decided to phase-out All-in-1. We will 
        replace it with a suite of Microsoft software packages
    (MS-Exchange, MS-Office, etc.) over the coming months.
        
        To enable this program, the necessary "Internal Use" software
    products can be ordered from Galway. In order to ensure that the right
    software products are used, the ordering process requires country approval
    from the accountable CCS (IS) Manager and Country Finance Manager.
        
        The Discretionary Spending Program is still in place. All other 
        software products for "Internal Use" require European Exception 
        approval as outlined in the following matrix.
        
        BU/Function	  Exception signature	    Finance Manager
        
        NPBU	  Guy BUYST @BRO	    Mervyn FERNANDEZ @BRO
        MCS		  Gianni MESSORA @GEO	    Tapio LAPPI @GEO
        OMS		  Juergen WEGWART @GEO	    Ian HAWKEY @GEO
        SBU		  Peter ZOTTO @GEO	    Chris PELLY @GEO
        PCBU	  Carlo GILARDI @GEO	    Shoaib QURAESHI @GEO
        HRO/D&L	  Giorgio CORSI @GEO	    Jean-Claude CHAMPLONG @GEO
        OGC	Jacques-Henri BRISAC @GEO Jean-Claude CHAMPLONG@GEO
        NSIS	  Kannankote SRIKANTH @OGO  George COONEY @OGO
        Finance/SSC	  Phil LADDS @GEO	 Jean-Claude CHAMPLONG@GEO
        Acquisition	  Phil LADDS @GEO	    Calin Schiau @GEO
        PM&S	  Phil LADDS @GEO	    Bob Cuthbert @AYO
        CCS		  Brad LENTZ @GEO	    Harry McKnight @GEO
        PSG		  Brad LENTZ @GEO	    Steve LEADBETTER @GEO
        Comm	  Rolf Espen OLSEN @GEO	    Jean-Claude CHAMPLONG @GEO
        PSB		  Andre NACCACHE @VBO	    Henk KNOOP @JGO
        
        Regards,
        Phil
        
        /pb
    
1413.2WOTVAX::HILTONSave Water, drink beerWed Mar 26 1997 01:212
    But Nt, 95 and Office are available on the net for nowt.
    
1413.3ROCKS::KEANEWed Mar 26 1997 11:4625
    Hi,
    
    I am not the guardian of MS licencing, but my understanding of the way it
    was originally set up was that you were only SUPPOSED to UPGRADE programs
    you had already bought, AND had paid for the UPGRADE licence, ( There was a
    MCS only deal that bought a blanket UPGRADE for various MS products).
    The rest of the Corporation was supposed to get an upgrade licence and
    then download  a new version of their existing software. This limited
    upgrades for example,  you were not supposed to upgrade Office 95 to
    Office 97 PROFESSIONAL.
    
    The states do not seem to be operating under the same rules, and put
    the upgrades on the WEB without any explanation of the above. Perhaps
    the rules have changed, perhaps they don't care. 
    
    All I can say is that I have seen no mails changing the original
    explanation I received. I had a mail somewhere with details of the
    above, but I cannot find it. If someone else has still got it could you
    please post it here!
    
    Regards
    
    Patrick
    
    
1413.4CHEFS::espol1.gmt.dec.com::PITTGone with the winsock ...Wed Mar 26 1997 17:036
If .-1 is correct then there are an awful lot of illegal
installations of Microsoft software around here ...

Perhaps someone can tell us the fact in this area.

T
1413.5COMICS::CORNEJWhat's an Architect?Wed Mar 26 1997 17:097
    >>If .-1 is correct then there are an awful lot of illegal installations
    >>of Microsoft software around here ...
    
    Not just around here....
    
    Jc
    
1413.6Yo ho ho and a pirate copy of ...BBPBV1::WALLACEjohn wallace @ bbp. +44 860 675093Wed Mar 26 1997 18:442
    Get the man from FAST in. I'm sure Der Management would ensure that
    everybody knew what was legit or not shortly afterwards.
1413.7Nice little earner!TMCUKA::ROWELLPaul Rowell @BBPWed Mar 26 1997 20:353
1413.8Where would I find part numbers ?KERNEL::HANCOCKMUse what you (used to) sellTue Apr 01 1997 15:599
    
    Hi,
    	I understand that the products are on the net for nowt.My
    requirement is for a "personal" copy for Support purposes,on site
    or at home,or wherever...
    
    Where would I find part numbers ?
    
    				Cheers Mick