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Title:Working for Digital in the UK
Notice:DIGITAL Stock quote: $35 1/8 on 10/01 at 18:04 eastern.
Moderator:WOTVAX::HILTONo.dec.com::hiltong
Created:Fri Sep 11 1992
Last Modified:Fri Jun 06 1997
Last Successful Update:Fri Jun 06 1997
Number of topics:1443
Total number of notes:35591

1406.0. "Caller ID from Digital offices?" by WOTVAX::rasmodem22.reo.dec.com::warbly::bell (Martin Bell @BBP) Thu Feb 27 1997 19:47

Does anyone know why calls from Digital offices (well Birmingham at least)
don't forward the Caller ID?

I believe that we use Mercury our Telecom provider, and they certainly
provide Caller ID for residential customers, so why not for Digital?

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1406.1WOTVAX::HILTONSave Water, drink beerThu Feb 27 1997 19:492
    REO is the only I've found that does this. It's something to do with
    the telephone system in each office.
1406.2the caller withheld their numberKERNEL::FREKESLike a thief in the nightFri Feb 28 1997 13:028
    Digital offices, or the CSC, appears to withhold the number from the
    line you are calling.
    
    Doing 1471 after placing a call from the CSC, comes back with a polite
    message. "the caller withheld their number"
    
    Steven F
    CSC 
1406.3COMICS::SUMNERCOpenVMS Counter IntelligenceFri Feb 28 1997 13:208
    Steve,
    
    I've noticed that all calls coming from the Basinhstoke CSC appear as
    the switchboard number (well they used to) 56101.
    
    Now, where did I put my anorak ?
    
    Chris
1406.4VAXCAT::GOLDYAn angel in disguiseFri Feb 28 1997 13:224
    I've noticed that calls from DECpark extensions show the Caller ID on
    my Mercury mobile as being the switchboard number.
    
    Jane.
1406.5QUICHE::PITTAlph a ha is better than no VAX!Fri Feb 28 1997 13:496
The only thing, in general, that Mercury could forward would be the number of
the line that the call came out of Digital on.  This would be useless.  I did
not realize there was any way of having the ddi of the extension originating
the call being forwarded, though .1 says that REO does it ...

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1406.6QUICHE::PITTAlph a ha is better than no VAX!Fri Feb 28 1997 13:5316
Another point:  I believe we have lines from (at least) both Mercury and BT.
Outgoing calls are routed over the DTN as far as they can be, and then they pop
out onto the external phone system.

Unless you can use the ddi of the originating extension, then the number of the
line out is even more useless, because it could be anywhere.  If, for example,
I'm sitting in Basingstoke and I call a London number, then I think the call
will go DTN to London, and come out of Digital at HHL.  What use is it to the
called party to see the London switchboard number?

And another thought: in this building, many of us have floating numbers.  When
you sit at a desk, you pull your floating number through to the phone.  The ddi
of the phone for an outgoing call could never be my own ddi:  at times, we have
a considerable number of numbers pulled to the same physical phoneset...

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1406.7bye bye DTNBBRDGE::LOVELLFri Feb 28 1997 17:4913
    Tony
    
    Private voice networks used to work like that 'cos if you had stumped
    up all the money to put them in place, it was worth it to recoup your
    investment.  However for a long time now the DTN does not route like
    that 'cos the complexity of us pretending to be a miniature BT costs us
    more than we would save on the (relatively) cheaper trunk calls.
    
    Furthermore, we are just about to ditch the whole of the European DTN
    and go to the public network (or a VPN version thereof) but in any
    case, no private bandwidth for inter-site telephone calls.
    
    /Chris/
1406.8WOTVAX::16.194.64.227::warbly::bellMartin Bell @BBPFri Feb 28 1997 18:208
Oh well,

if we are changing the way we route our calls, lets hope that Caller ID's
somehow magically start working. Nowadays it seems impolite to withhold
your ID - or at least the ID of the switchboard on which the phone that
you are holding is connected.

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