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Conference 501clb::games

Title:	Welcome to GAMES
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Created:	Sat Feb 15 1986
Last Modified:	Fri Jun 06 1997
Last Successful Update:	Fri Jun 06 1997
Number of topics:	3127
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3119.0. "Good combat flight sims?" by ABACUS::mkodhcp-4614496.mko.dec.com::TOMAS () Mon Mar 24 1997 17:26

Am interested in any flight sims that focus on the combat aspect of flying
versus real-life flight characteristics of the aircraft.... i.e. more dogfighting than
having to pay attention to the instruments or memorizing 10-20 keys on the
keyboard.

I've recently acquired a 200Mh Pentium w/MMX and an ATI 3D Rage II video 
card, so flight sims that may take advantage of this technology would
be nice.

Now... in case you're wondering... this is for my son, not me!  ;-)

thanx.... joe

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3119.1 suggestions ENQUE::PARODI John H. Parodi DTN 381-1640 Mon Mar 24 1997 18:14 42

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3119.1	suggestions	ENQUE::PARODI	John H. Parodi DTN 381-1640	`Mon Mar 24 1997 18:14`	42
	Well, there's dogfighting vs. ground attack and fixed wing vs. helicopters. I'd say the best compromise between shoot-em-ups and having to learn how to fly would be U.S. Navy Fighters / U. S. Marine Fighters / Advanced Tactical Fighters. These three sims use essentially the same graphics engine and look pretty much the same. They differ in support of new planes, new missions, and multiplayer (head-to-head) combat. You (or your son) will still have to do a bit of reading before you'll qualify for an Air Medal, though. On the more realistic end of the spectrum, in terms of visual apppeal flight model, and zillions of controls, there's EF2000 (already replaced by TACTCOM and Super EF2000, but these are not yet available from U.S. distributors). EF2000 would be in the bargain bins if you can find it at all, but if you do get this, you'll need the patches from the www.did.com website. People also say good things about SU27 Flanker (excellent flight model and fiendishly difficult controls -- some people like that in a sim) if you don't mind flying a Soviet fighter and nothing else (don't have this one myself). I haven't tried F-22, but newsgroup chatter said it was visually great but slightly less realistic/hard than EF2000. You might try to find USNF or ATF in the bargain bins just to see whether it's your cup of tea. As far as exercising your your machine to its full capacity, there's a new WWI sim called Flying Corps that everyone says is a real pentium killer... 3D video cards are not mainstream just yet, so new games and sims that support them out-of-the-box are only beginning to appear. It's more common that a game/sim vendor will provide a patch and drivers to support a particular card. Sometimes these vendors will even provide a free game or sim that shows off the 3D hardware. You might want to check the ATI webpage for this. Hope this helps, JP

    
    Well, there's dogfighting vs. ground attack and fixed wing vs.
    helicopters. I'd say the best compromise between shoot-em-ups and
    having to learn how to fly would be U.S. Navy Fighters / U. S. Marine 
    Fighters / Advanced Tactical Fighters.
    
    These three sims use essentially the same graphics engine and look
    pretty much the same. They differ in support of new planes, new
    missions, and multiplayer (head-to-head) combat. You (or your son)
    will still have to do a bit of reading before you'll qualify for
    an Air Medal, though.
    
    On the more realistic end of the spectrum, in terms of visual apppeal
    flight model, and zillions of controls, there's EF2000 (already
    replaced by TACTCOM and Super EF2000, but these are not yet available
    from U.S. distributors). EF2000 would be in the bargain bins if you can
    find it at all, but if you do get this, you'll need the patches from
    the www.did.com website.
    
    People also say good things about SU27 Flanker (excellent flight model
    and fiendishly difficult controls -- some people like that in a sim) if
    you don't mind flying a Soviet fighter and nothing else (don't have
    this one myself).
    
    I haven't tried F-22, but newsgroup chatter said it was visually great
    but slightly less realistic/hard than EF2000.
    
    You might try to find USNF or ATF in the bargain bins just to see
    whether it's your cup of tea. As far as exercising your your machine to
    its full capacity, there's a new WWI sim called Flying Corps that
    everyone says is a real pentium killer...
    
    3D video cards are not mainstream just yet, so new games and sims that
    support them out-of-the-box are only beginning to appear. It's more
    common that a game/sim vendor will provide a patch and drivers to
    support a particular card. Sometimes these vendors will even provide a
    free game or sim that shows off the 3D hardware. You might want to
    check the ATI webpage for this.
    
    Hope this helps,
    
    JP